Jimmy Savile OUTED as a PAEDO OCT 3rd

[shakerr]

Originally Posted by heartbeatsalute

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...oasted-1389710





Jimmy Savile and the IRA: Predator boasted terrorist friends could have enemies hospitalised
20 Oct 2012 23:39

Paedophile used threats of ­violence to silence victims and anyone else who ­threatened to expose him
Threats: Savile bragged that he could fix anyone with one call Threats: Savile bragged that he could fix anyone with one call

JIMMY Savile terrified enemies by snarling that he was mates with ­­IRA killers who would ­cripple anyone who crossed him.

The cunning paedophile used threats of ­violence to silence victims and anyone else who ­threatened to expose him, ­investigators on his case believe.

Today the Sunday People can reveal how Savile once bragged to our journalist how he could fix anyone with just one phone call – to terrorists.

He said: “All I have to do is call my friends in the IRA. They’ll have someone waking up in hospital the next morning eating their breakfast through a f***ing straw.

“I know the IRA, men from the IRA, and you don’t need to ask these guys twice. I’m serious. Don’t f***ing think I’m not serious. I can get them done – just with a phone call. That’s all it takes, young man.”

Our evidence has been passed to the multi-agency investigation into Savile, now believed to have collected the accounts of 200 victims.

A team of 10 from the Met’s Operation Yewtree are leading the probe, with help from regional police forces, the NSPCC and former ­detective Mark Williams-Thomas, a child protection expert.

Mark Williams Thomas On the case: Child protection expert and former detective Williams-Thomas
ITV

Late last week Peter Watt, head of the NSPCC’s helpline, said: “It’s now looking possible that Jimmy Savile was one the most prolific sex ­offenders our organisation has ever come across.”

The Met’s Cmdr Peter Spindler said: “We are dealing with alleged abuse on an unprecedented scale.”

Officers are ready to arrest Savile’s suspected accomplices ­including child abuser Gary Glitter. Convicted paedophile Jonathan King also is likely to be quizzed.

Sources close to the investigation believe the complaints that have emerged so far are the tip of the iceberg. And others are STILL in fear of their lives despite Savile’s death a year ago aged 84.

Our source said: “He boasted of knowing gangsters and men who you wouldn’t want to double cross. It is likely that some had been threatened with the IRA.

“They are still worried about ­coming forward.From all of the evidence ­gathered there is a clear picture ­developing of someone who not only abused vulnerable children but intimidated them and left them fearing for their lives.”

Terror was just one weapon used by Savile to stifle threats as he ­systematically abused children from 1959 to as late as 2006.

The others were charity work and becoming a TV institution. Each enhanced Savile’s reputation so anyone accusing him knew they faced being vilified.

Both activities also gave him easy access to young flesh.

Savile, a Roman Catholic who was once blessed by The Pope, was a regular visitor to Ireland using his charity work as a cloak. He made IRA threats during a meeting 12 years ago when our ­journalist was a local ­reporter on the Bucks Herald.

Savile was a volunteer helper at nearby Stoke Mandeville Hospital and was upset about the death of a local figure who he had known for several years.

There was a rumour the man had died after being mugged in the street.

The TV bigshot demanded the names of the thugs responsible.

We have omitted the name of the ­deceased out of respect for his family.

Armed with with an M16 automatic assault rifle, a trainee member of the Provisional Irish Republican Army Jimmy's buddy: Member of the Provisional IRA with an M16
Getty

Arrogant Savile summoned our ­journalist to his ­office and raged: “I want you to tell me what happened with **** *****. If you hear that someone has done this then I want you to tell me who straight away.

“I want to know names and I can have them waking up in hospital with every bone in their body broken.

“If someone has done this to **** ***** that makes them my enemy. And you don’t want to be my enemy.”

When asked to explain he then made his boasts of his IRA ­connections. Savile ­added: “You don’t get blessed by the Pope for nothing.”

We told Mr Williams-Thomas of Savile’s threats and the investigator said: “The pattern of behaviour which has emerged is that Savile’s victims felt in great fear of him and this has ­prevented many from speaking out then or ever since. Having researched Savile and knowing what I know, their fears were and are very ­genuine.” He said it was possible some victims are yet to come forward because they still have reasons to be afraid.

Savile also boasted of his use of ­violence and links to gangsters when filmed for a BBC Louis Theroux documentary.

Talking of his time as a dance-hall boss in Leeds in the 50s, he said: “I was always in trouble with the law for being heavy handed but I couldn’t care less.

“I never threw anyone out. I tied them up and put them down in the bloody boiler house until I was ready for them at about two o’clock in the f***ing ­morning. They’d plead to get out.

“Bo***cks to them. We’d tie them up and then come back. I was the judge, jury and executioner.

“If a copper came and said, ‘You was a bit heavy with that kid or those two guys,’ I’d say, ‘Your daughter comes in here. She’s 16. She’s not supposed to come into town but she does and she comes here. I presume you’d like me to look after her. If you don’t, then tell me and I’ll let them dirty slags do what they want to her.’”

He said the police would reply: “All right, Jim. All right.”

When Louis Met Jimmy TV programme April 2000 Sir Jimmy Savile Reign of terror: Savile with Louis Theroux in documentary

And he would tell the officers: “All right, then, don’t give me a f***ing hard time then. I never got nicked.

“And I’ve never altered.”

He hinted about underworld links in 1983 newspaper interview: “I never get physical personally. Let’s just say that while I’m in Edinburgh very dodgy things happen in London.

“I am just waiting for a call from Hollywood offering me the lead in the remake of The Godfather.”

He is known to have visited Ireland annually between 1968 and 1981 to lead fundraising walks for the Central Remedial Clinic in Dublin CRC.

The investigating team are also studying evidence concerning a number of high-profile figures in the BBC, in business and at the top of organisations friendly to Savile.

It is feared they may have been involved in an institutional cover-up of sexual abuse.

Another man reportedly facing arrest is one of Savile’s BBC staff who is accused of working as his ­accomplice in abuse and raping a former beauty queen.

The woman was 23 when she had consensual sex with Savile in the back of his caravan in 1970 after writing to him asking for work experience. A week later she was invited back to the BBC by this colleague.

He then violently attacked her in a locked storeroom.

She alleges Savile conspired with the man who assaulted her.

A source close to the investigation told the Sunday People: “What we’ve heard so far about Savile is the tip of the ­iceberg. It is clear there are people high up in organisations that either knew, suspected or turned a blind eye to the fact one of Britain’s biggest TV and radio stars was a prolific paedophile.”

It also emerged yesterday how Savile’s reign of terror and fear extended to his own family.

His sister turned a blind eye to his abuse of her granddaughter, it was ­claimed.Caroline Robinson, 49, said Savile, her great-uncle, twice sexually assaulted her as a young girl – aged 12 and again when she was 15.

She said that even today the smell of cigar smoke “makes my flesh crawl”.

But she said close family members who knew, including her grandmother Marjorie Marsden would be bribed with lavish gifts in return for keeping quiet.

Caroline said: “Uncle Jimmy gave Marjorie everything she wanted. She was interested in Egyptology so he bought her a house on the Nile. He paid for the best lawyer for her divorce. He paid for her to live in a smart BUPA care home near his flat in Roundhay Park in Leeds before she died in 2006.

“She had private medical insurance and a cottage in Llandudno, courtesy of Jimmy.

“He bought her a caravan on the coast there. If Marjorie had blabbed, Jimmy would have had nothing. No fame, no money. In fact, he’d have been in jail. And Marjorie would have had nothing too.

“What Jimmy did to me was terrible. But the most unsettling thing of all is that Grandmama, whom I loved dearly, knew exactly what was going on and she kept her mouth shut because Jimmy paid for her ­silence. She always referred to him as her ‘next of kin’. The camp that has closed ranks and kept silent about all this are those who have benefited financially from him.”

Mr Williams-Thomas is working on a follow-up to the ITV documentary Exposure: The Other Side Of Jimmy Savile.

IRA = Masons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsqEj_BOAbc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsqEj_BOAbc

[steve_d]

Originally Posted by brontide

Statement from the Bureau of Investigative Journalists:

“The Bureau of Investigative Journalism was established to apply the highest standards of investigative and fact-based journalism in the public interest...

“The Bureau was named as a contributor to the broadcast of a BBC Newsnight programme on November 2 on child abuse in North Wales. The Trustees are appalled at what appears to be a breach of its standards. To the extent that the principles of The Bureau have been ignored by an involvement in this story, remedial action will be taken against those responsible. The Trustees must ensure that due process is applied and are establishing the key facts.”

Fucking hell. We've turned into North Korea.

http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com...ive-journalism

This struck me as being very strange at the time, that the BBC made a point of stating that it was doing the report in conjunction with The Bureau of Investigative Journalism. what with the teasing tweets etc, then the climb down because our lawyers have advised us not to name names.

Almost like it was set up to fail from that moment on, or as they say in the states......'The fix was in'

[washere]

Originally Posted by washere

The real secret behind it all:

http://pierrejoubert.blogspot.co.uk/...op-people.html

http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2012...s-cabinet.html

[illuminumnuts]

Originally Posted by steve_d

Almost like it was set up to fail from that moment on, or as they say in the states......'The fix was in'

Except it turned out to be an unconvincing farce; not a fix. A fix isn't supposed to achieve the opposite of what was intended. Not as far as i'm aware anyway.

Originally Posted by nickc

Slightly old news I know, but if anyone wants the screengrab image of the 9th November Clifford / Clark feature from The Independent website (which was quickly removed), it's here:

www.filedropper.com/clifford-clark-the-independent-09-november-2012

I usually avoid using these download sites. We have the article on the Clifford thread, but without name or date. I had it down as the 8th November from memory. Can someone possibly confirm the date and name of the journalist? Thank you.

[rolly55]

The problem we face in trying to expose these crimes are that they are of a nature that make doing exactly that very difficult. Those perpetrating them know this.

As someone else mentioned further back, the best evidence in these cases is forensic. Evidence which will not exist many years later, perhaps even days later. Bill Clinton only got caught with Lewinsky because she kept a dress with his cum stains on it, so he had no way of denying it. Same situation here but that's never going to happen in this instance.

That leaves witness testimony and anyone with any knowledge of child protection will tell you that adults who have been abused as kids usually make very poor witnesses. They have often led a life of drink, drugs, crime etc. due to the abuse they have suffered. This makes them instantly unbelievable in the face of an extremely rich, powerful, well respected member of the political or social elite. Put them on the stand in front of a rottweiler lawyer earning hundreds of thousands and it is easy to make their testimony crumble. This is why so few rape cases result in a conviction. Make the witness relive the abuse, get them distressed and then let them make an error and bang, unreliable witness. Making it all up. My client is a pillar of the community etc.etc.

The only other evidence that can nail these bastards that is rock solid is either pictures/video or circumstantial. Pictures/Video most likely does exist, but is unlikely to be made available to investigators as its usually the abusers themselves in possession of such material. Circumstantial evidence is the area that they are most vulnerable.

Look at Freddy Starr. 'Never met the girl, never been on a Savile show, only met him once'. Next day video of him on a Savile show with girl and there you go. Explain that one Freddy. Makes him look guilty as hell. Now FS is small fry - but if someone is denying involvement in abuse and makes a specific claim aka. 'Ive never even been there' and a photo or video was to emerge to prove that they were in fact lying, it instantly points to them being guilty in the eyes of the public. A smoking gun. Perhaps why people like Laud say nothing even when you Google his name and peadofile and child abuse is all over the first page. The more questions they answer, the more likely they are to implicate themselves.

On a related note. Has McA actually sued anyone yet? For all the threats i haven't seen any actual writs issued. Now im not sure if McA was involved or whether it genuinely was his cousin Jimmie or the previous Lord McA. But surely if you sued someone for libel then you would have to have a court case and an investigation into the allegations? Or would those being sued simply bend over and plead guilty?

[washere]

Originally Posted by washere

The real secret behind it all:

http://pierrejoubert.blogspot.co.uk/...op-people.html




http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2012...s-cabinet.html

http://the-tap.blogspot.co.uk/2012/1...-films-of.html

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[citroen999]

jimmy in jersey again...


http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/...hoto/155164678

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/...hoto/155165002

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/...hoto/154763787

[secret66mechanism]

AN OPEN LETTER TO ED MILIBAND


Dear Ed

Just a few minutes ago, as yet unconfirmed news arrived to say that the Bryn Estyn whistleblower and long-term fighter for justice against institutional sex abuse Steven Messham has been found safe and well.

It’s a relief. But let me give you just a glimmer of what this man has had to suffer – for the nth time – at the hands of tabloid hacks, justice-perverting smears, and neolithic views about mental health problems over the last 36 hours.

A disingenuously patronising piece in the Mail on Sunday by Lord McAlpine. A foul piece of smear journalism from two Mail hacks with a sorry track-record of pro-institutional, anti-accuser mistakes. And being referred to as “a weirdo” by the truly appalling David Mellor.



http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2012/11/...o-ed-miliband/

[jesuitsdidit]

this may be relevant
if not feel free to move to ano thrd mods pls



http://www.onlinepublishingcompany.i...active_id/1809


Anthony Charles Lynton Blair (Tony Blair, former PM of the UK)

He was charged and appeared in court at Bow Street Magistrates Court for importunity in a public toilet with another male. He tried to get sexual favour from the other man; little did he know that the toilet was being watched by police. Blair was fined £500, and walked away with nobody knowing who he really was as he used his middle names to cover who he was. Charles Lynton is the name used, and his friends in court got him off with a fine, because he is one of them. ...

[rolly55]

Originally Posted by alteredge

Already did...

It is a lot worse than 14 when it comes to Harmann. How about asking her the following -

Do you still support the Pedophile Information Exchange?

Do you still oppose the Protection of Children Bill?

Do you still support the legalisation of child porn?

Do you still think that peados should only be convicted if the victim can prove he/she was treated violently? Aka - make it impossible to prove?

Why were you happy to make a parliamentary submission, as legal officer, on behalf of a group trying to lower the age of consent to 4?


She may try and fob you off by saying that PIE wasn't affiliated with Liberty when she started working there in 1978. Bullshit. They were affiliated with Liberty until 1983. This spans the entire 4 year period Harman was working for them. Also, a record of her official submission was obviously kept, so all she can do is LIE when faced with the facts.

Does her other pedo supporting friend Patricia Hewitt have twitter?

[hoverfly]

Originally Posted by big brother

I'm with you on this one. There must be many retired police officers, who have information that would be useful. By coming forward now they would not be risking too much. Perhaps they could even hand the information to somebody in the public domain, obviously not somebody from the BBC. Some of the information that they must be sitting on has got to be toxic. It'll be interesting to see if anyone will come forward.

I say old bean, excellent suggestion BB.

Come on ye retired officers. You may have children and grandchildren who have the right to a better future.

Please do all that you can.

While your at it, you could also give some much needed support to Tony Farrell.

[thentherewere4]

Originally Posted by hoverfly

I say old bean, excellent suggestion BB.

Come on ye retired officers. You may have children and grandchildren who have the right to a better future.

Please do all that you can.

While your at it, you could also give some much needed support to Tony Farrell.

No harm in asking but seeing as the last enquiry, the Waterhouse, was a Freemason coverup and the police officers involved in the enquiry were all 'pillars of the local community' and were/still are Freemasons at a SECRET Lodge, one they themselves at first denied even existed at all, I doubt you'll be hearing much good news from that quarter.

[jesuitsdidit]

http://pierrejoubert.blogspot.co.uk/...op-people.html


Tuesday, July 05, 2005
North Wales paedophile ring, top people, the police and the security services
~~

Scallywag Magazine alleged that MI5 used to take foreign diplomats to the North Wales homes, give them boys to "play" with, secretly filmed them as they buggered, abused and tortured boys then kept the tapes as evidence.

Over a dozen victims who complained of abuse by the paedophile ring 'have met suspicious deaths'.

~~~

http://conformandobey.co.uk/pages/nick-davies-97.html

October 15th, 1997

PUBLIC FIGURES NAMED IN PAEDOPHILE RING

Nick Davies, in The Guardian:

"Policemen, social workers and prominent public figures have been accused of belonging to a paedophile ring which indulged in a relentless campaign of physical and sexual abuse in children's homes in North Wales.

"The names of the alleged members of the ring have been given by witnesses in public sessions of the North Wales Child Abuse Tribunal, but they have been suppressed by the tribunal's chairman, Sir Ronald Waterhouse QC, who has threatened the media with High Court proceedings if they print them...

"Those named to the tribunal include:

"A man who bears the same surname as a prominent Conservative supporter. Two witnesses have told the tribunal of a rich and powerful man who belonged to the alleged ring.

"The son of an influential peer who admitted to police that he had been having sex with an under-age boy from one of the homes. Despite his admission, he was never prosecuted.

"A powerful public official who has previously been cleared of abuse. Six witnesses have given separate accounts to the tribunal of his alleged rape of young boys. Another has reported him attending parties in Wrexham which were supplied with boys from a children's home.

"Two social workers and two police officers, one of whom was accused of abuse on four separate occasions and exonerated each time, another of whom has since been jailed in another part of the country for gross indecency with a child.

"More than a dozen other local men, including an executive with a local authority, a senior probation officer and a director of a major company."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/2506835.stm
1997: More than 80 people were named as child abusers in statements to the North Wales inquiry into claims of abuse by children in care, which has opened at Ewloe near Mold.

The largest number of complaints centre on the notorious Bryn Estyn home outside Wrexham, which has now closed. The deputy head of the home, Peter Howarth, was jailed in 1994 for 10 years for sexually abusing teenage boys.

~

Sir Ronald Waterhouse's findings were published in February 2000. His report named and criticised almost 200 people for either abusing children or failing to offer them sufficient protection.

~~ ...

[brontide]

Originally Posted by citroen999

jimmy in jersey again...


http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/...hoto/155164678

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/...hoto/155165002

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/...hoto/154763787

Photo 1:

1st November, 1980

Photo 2:

1st November, 1979.....

Was Savile in Jersey most halloween times?

[jesuitsdidit]

Originally Posted by jesuitsdidit

this may be relevant
if not feel free to move to ano thrd mods pls



http://www.onlinepublishingcompany.i...active_id/1809


Anthony Charles Lynton Blair (Tony Blair, former PM of the UK)

He was charged and appeared in court at Bow Street Magistrates Court for importunity in a public toilet with another male. He tried to get sexual favour from the other man; little did he know that the toilet was being watched by police. Blair was fined £500, and walked away with nobody knowing who he really was as he used his middle names to cover who he was. Charles Lynton is the name used, and his friends in court got him off with a fine, because he is one of them. ...

more info here

http://www.onlinepublishingcompany.i.../active_id/507

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[concernedmom]

The double standards by which our politicians operate knows no bounds!


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/b...in-the-UK.html

How the heck do we get them to come clean about paedophilia??

[concernedmom]

Originally Posted by brontide

Photo 1:

1st November, 1980

Photo 2:

1st November, 1979.....

Was Savile in Jersey most halloween times?

Which happened to coincide with his birthday!

[brontide]

Originally Posted by allseeingipod

That story about Savile being given a police jacket and being allowed to direct traffic is a perfect example of the way he was able to get away with all sorts of ridiculous stuff and given powers no one else would have been. Here's an eccentric man in his 80s. There's been a major traffic incident. I know, let's get this chap to direct traffic for us and let him wear an official police hi-viz jacket

Was Savile some kind of hypnotist? Is this how he managed to openly abuse kids for years and completely get away with it while alive?

AND he was 'first' on the scene with his old pal Howard Silverman....

[rolly55]

Originally Posted by brontide

Photo 1:

1st November, 1980

Photo 2:

1st November, 1979.....

Was Savile in Jersey most halloween times?

Also interesting that the website features photos of him with Price Phillip in 1973, 1979, 1981 and 1985. All the photos are from charity events and so no big drama there. But it adds credence to what Icke said about them being close friends at one time.

[salamander]

Originally Posted by pravda

I have checked for a death cert for Savile aged approx 2 and also found nothing...

I remember Vile told the story of his dying as a baby in an interview...might have been the Theroux one... he said that when the doctor saw he was breathing he tore up the death certificate...

This is good stuff oubliete and all... we were looking into this royal connection a bit earlier on in the thread but it fizzled out when the Vile shit really hit the fan...think there must be something too...royal connection...but also why Vile and not his brothers and sisters? They didn't seem to be favoured...Did he find something out himself?