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Old 14-03-2013, 12:18 PM   #57381
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yes! 'become'. Very likely.

Any idea what the BCM B78C is?


Not yet - BCM seem very popular letters

Think we can rule out dance parties though.
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Old 14-03-2013, 12:18 PM   #57382
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Yes, very interesting.

Income coud be "become" - Then the sentence would make sense.

Also,

Glencross (Spartacus sco interest)

BCM B78C
Not the same codes, but might trigger some ideas ...

"Catalyst is a quarterly journal of yacht research,
design and technology published by the
Amateur Yacht Research Society, BCM AYRS,
London WC1N 3XX UK. Opinions expressed
are the author’s and not those of AYRS. AYRS
also publishes related booklets."

http://www.ayrs.org/Catalyst_N25_Jul_2006.pdf
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Old 14-03-2013, 12:21 PM   #57383
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Ha ha, I remember now, that was the one where I thought I saw David Bowie in the top left corner! (And no, it doesn’t say that, I am sure!)

Here we go, as I said, it is not my finest work!


Top left impossible to read.

Over to right top:

Dr Foster said boy has been buggered.

? ? – let charges drop.

Only disorderly house – 3 years susp sent £36? Fine.

?
Dwyer knows Brittain.

2nd Mortgage with Minster Insurance of Weybridge.

Erland worked for ELMBRIDGE SSD ?Raymond? Director

Had only become SW in AT?

Peter Glencross (Spartacus sex interest)
Car registration?
London WC1B 6XX? 404-6011

Terry Dwyer
87? Drury Hse
Patmore Est
Stewarts Rd
Battersea SW8

Minster has seen David
South African
? identified Glencross

? John Russell/Gordon Jameson/Peter Robinson
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Goldstein?

? ?
DC ? – P? Police
Wanted to talk about ? (possibly Keir?) after Carol visited ?
Said he
Family were being followed after ?
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Old 14-03-2013, 12:23 PM   #57384
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BCM appears to be a 'virtual village' :


"BCM Village LONDON WC1N 3XX
BCM Village LONDON WC1N 3XX. [email protected] : Welcome to the website of the BCM Village, providing a virtual office for your small business.
http://www.bcmvillage.co.uk/"
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Old 14-03-2013, 12:24 PM   #57385
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On the back of the KERSHAW family posts of last night and their links to Savile and Cyril Smith poster NOFUTURE has put this up on the Smith thread.
A vile deceitful bully who used his position as a liberal MP to intimidate all even the local bobbies.



http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....llying-1744842


Sir Cyril Smith tried to bully police investigating claims he molested young boys, according to secret files revealed for the first time today.

Documents obtained by us show how the late Liberal MP went to Rochdale police station in 1970 and asked to speak to investigating officers.

He demanded to be told why detectives were investigating him and said that he wished to be given the names of his accusers.

Sir Cyril, who was then a prominent councillor, also asked to be told if he was going to be charged so that he could decide whether to stand for MP at the next Parliamentary election.

At the time, police were investigating claims that he had molested young boys when he was secretary of a hostel which had closed in 1964.

Officers went on to submit a file of evidence but prosecutors eventually decided not to pursue the case, allowing Sir Cyril to realise his ambition of a Parliamentary career.

Documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act now show that in January 1970, Sir Cyril asked to meet with detectives to find out the names of his accusers.

A transcript of the conversation between Sir Cyril and detectives shows how he was determined to challenge the police for investigating him.

Sir Cyril began the meeting by asking bluntly ‘Why are the enquiries going on?’ and ‘to whom did you approach for statements?’

He also asked what stage the police had reached in their enquiry and when he would know if he was to be charged.

In the same interview Sir Cyril admitted speaking to three boys after they had given statements to police.

The detective responded: “I must warn you about interfering with witnesses.”

Sir Cyril was accused during the interview of going on a ‘fishing expedition’ by confronting police about their investigation.

According to the transcript, Sir Cyril laughed and replied: “Well yes, fishing – I think that is fair comment.”

He added: “I’ve got to give a decision, one way or another, whether I’m going to fight the next parliamentary election as a Liberal in Rochdale, and if I’m going to be charged, I’m not going to accept.”

Sir Cyril refused to discuss the allegations against him in the meeting but a month later, in a police statement, he did give his side of the story.

He said that the allegations would be ‘damaging’ if made public, but added: “I wish to state most emphatically that I have never behaved in any indecent way towards any of these boys but have done my best to help them at a difficult stage in their lives.”

On March 11 – just six weeks after his visit to Rochdale police station – detectives passed Sir Cyril’s file to prosecutors, describing his conduct as ‘inexcusable’.

Their covering note added: “He has used his unique position to indulge in a sordid series of indecent episodes with young boys to whom he had a special responsibility... he appears guilty of numerous offences of indecent assault.”

But the file, submitted by Lancashire Constabulary, was knocked back by prosecutors and three months later Sir Cyril did indeed stand for parliament – losing to Labour incumbent Jack McCann.

Two years later, he won the seat in a by-election following McCann’s death. He served as MP for Rochdale until 1992.

Rochdale’s current Labour MP Simon Danczuk said the documents obtained by us prove Sir Cyril tried to meddle with the police probe.

He said: “This exchange reveals how hard Cyril was pushing the police to drop charges and the fact that he was warned for interfering with witnesses shows he was clearly trying to influence the investigation.

“I know from speaking to police officers that Cyril had too much influence on the case and this transcript is a perfect illustration of what he was up to.”

Saturday January 24, 1970 – 11.20am, Rochdale police station
OFFICER: Well, very briefly the allegations concerning that, are that you went along there and examined these boys by taking their pants down. Whether that’s right or not, I don’t know.

CYRIL: I understand that that’s the subject of the investigation.

OFFICER: Which, pending on what explanation you put forward, would seem improper.

**********************

OFFICER: If my information is right, you spoke to one of the boys, who has been interviewed.

CYRIL: Yes.

OFFICER: What was that about?

CYRIL: He told me what you had been asking him. He told me he had made a statement to you. I’ve seen two of them and the third came to see me. I’ve asked them if they have made statements.

OFFICER: I must warn you about interfering with witnesses. The only reason I am here this morning is because you wanted to see me. I did not want to see you. You must have some suspicion about you and them, about what’s in the statements or you would not be here, would you?

**********************

CYRIL: Well – er – I’m hesitating, not because I’m frightened, but I’ve seen a solicitor obviously, and he says I must make no statement or answer no questions. If they want to question you on those lines, tell them that you have appointed a solicitor. It’s not that I’m afraid to answer the questions, it’s purely because I’m advised not to do.

**********************

OFFICER: What you have come on this morning is just a fishing expedition. You want to see what we know.

CYRIL: Well, yes, fishing – I think that is fair comment. But one of my problems is – I don’t know if you know about local affairs.

OFFICER: No, I have no connection locally.

CYRIL: Well the situation is this. In three weeks time, I’ve got to give a decision, one way or another, whether I’m going to fight the next Parliamentary Election as a Liberal in Rochdale, and if I’m going to be charged, I’m not going to accept. Guilty or not guilty, it would be unfair to the party. On the other hand, if I am not going to be charged I would like to have a do, and I have got to make my mind up in the next three weeks.

Lots of rumours, ‘reliable’ evidence... but no charges
FOR decades, rumours swirled around Rochdale MP Sir Cyril Smith – a political legend locally and nationally.

But despite police 40 years ago being convinced he had indecently assaulted young boys, the 30-stone Liberal never faced justice.

Following our major investigation last November, we revealed that between 1970 and 1998 police tried to have him charged three times.

But when his 80-page file was first passed to the Director of Public Prosecutions – the precursor to the CPS – it was marked ‘no further action’. The DPP passed it back with a terse one-page note saying the allegations were ‘completely without corroboration’ and that the ‘character of some of these young men would be likely to render their evidence suspect’.

Many of them had been residents at Rochdale boys' hostel Cambridge House.

By 1998, when the file was passed to the CPS, prosecutors agreed the evidence was ‘reliable’. But because he had already told been there would be no charges, they said there could be no action without fresh allegations.

The CPS now believes both the 1970 decision and the 1998 ruling would today be different.
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Old 14-03-2013, 12:24 PM   #57386
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yes! 'become'. Very likely.

Any idea what the BCM B78C is?
I thought that was a car reg, because there is a reference to being followed at the bottom of the page.

I read it as 6CM B782 but was not sure, at all.

Could have been Glencross's car, as is under his name, dunno.
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Old 14-03-2013, 12:35 PM   #57387
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Ok a few points to clear up/confirm.

First yes it looks like a car reg, good point.

second, it could well be that yacht club - postcode could read WC1N 3XX
or WC1B 6XX.

Instead of Raymond could it say regional?

Had only become SW in AT? bold could be date - 1978/1988?

Battersea address postcode could be SW8 4JJ?.(edit to say kind of confirmed earlier this bit to the address location in Battersea)

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It also looks like a Douglas here but could be wrong

? John Russell/Gordon Jameson/Peter Robinson
Douglas ?
Goldstein?
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Old 14-03-2013, 12:43 PM   #57389
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Just got an envelope from the NSPCC begging for funds , I have filled the prepaid envelope with the trash they sent me and will drop it in the mail later ,might I suggest everyone else does the same .
Good to put a note inside, SAYING PLEASE PUT YOUR OWN HOUSE IN ORDER IF YOU WANT OUR MONEY.
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Old 14-03-2013, 12:46 PM   #57390
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How is little Madeleine a national security?


Probably the same reason Operation Ore is, the government don`t want the truth to get out. What would folk say if the very people sending their sons and daughters to get blown up in a far away land were sitting at home watching indecent images of children and baby's being sexually abused and murdered?

Now while i`m not saying this applies to Gerry McCann, but knowing their teams penchant for libel action, it does make one wonder how the below article online is still up and running.

Gerry McCann AND the stolen wallet.
Wednesday ,July 27, 2011

I can see this find has caused a lot of interest, just to be clear, I have posted the link to the Police for them to investigate..Hopefully with an officer who cannot be bribed by MURDOCH...ONLY if the police ask me to remove it will I do so.


Quote from blogger (edited)

You can moan all you like, but no moderator has helped sort out imposters all, in fact, cause this imposter has access to my personal settings, and if I'm not mistaken, the only person I know that can hack into personal setting on the net that has a problem with me, is Jim Gamble and the McMafia paedophile mob at CEOP.

I already exposed his paedophile ass for hacking Gerry McCann's crime file's in the Law Enforcement data base using CEOP's mainframe and emptied out the file of the evidence that Gerry used his credit card's to download illegal child porn off the net and ended up being charged for having over 200,000 indecent images of children and baby`s being sexually abused and murdered and for trafficking his own produced video's of child abuses and murder, which landed him on the UK National Child Sex Abuse Offence Register.

You can check it out yourself that IS Gerry's registered as a paedophile and got caught in Operation Ore in 2006 before he took his family to Praia de Luz and faked his daughter Madeleine's abduction, then tried to make out that he's had his credit card's stolen, the same month he reported his daughter being abducted in London Heathrow in May 2007, to make people believe he was a victim of credit card fraud if anyone found out he'd been caught downloading illegal child porn on his own computer!

http://steelmagnolia-mccannarchives....ttpwww_27.html
Not at all up on the Mc Cann stuff - but nevertheless these little snippets are fascinating. Can someone point me to a page where i can learn more about it all. No idea why the fingers keep pointing at her parents so any site to educate me would be great.
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Old 14-03-2013, 12:53 PM   #57391
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I think we also largely agreed on this bit

? ?
DC ? – P? Police
Wanted to talk about ? (possibly Keir?) after Carol visited ?
Said he
Family were being followed after ?

as
DC ? - Putney Police
Wanted to talk about Kier after Carol visited (Mark?)
said the
Family were being followed after (meal or trial).
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Welcome to any new lurkers who are joining us after David Icke's successful interview this morning on tv. We are a friendly bunch, all at different stages of enlightenment and happy to answer any questions you have. Take the time to read some of the posts and you will soon be joining the dots too!

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"And Terry Earland, Richmond's head of services for children and families, warned that it could lead to an increased demand on more expensive services such as foster or residential care.

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ELMBRIDGE

A ban on sex offenders being rehoused in Elmbridge was rejected by the housing committee.

Councillors argued that offenders should live where police and social workers can monitor their behaviour, rather than allow them to assume a new identity and disappear."

http://mobile.harrowtimes.co.uk/sear...w_of_the_year/

A reminder that although spelled as above, it may be pronounced "Erland" thus written down phonetically.
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Nicely put.

For anyone confused as to why we are deciphering documents and the relevance of this, the following article explains.

Eurosites start to speak plainly about the Elm House scandal
Eight Monday Club Members in the frame

Prominent Conservative donors and former Ministers, MI5 agents and senior diplomats, policemen and local government officials: they’re all on the Elm House list, and they all offer clues about Plod’s foot-dragging over the case. The Slog analyses the names, the connections, and the motives.
Over the last ten days, a body of French and Dutch speaking websites have been posting articles about ‘The emerging paedophile scandal in England, and its ramifications for the Netherlands’. Since the McAlpine episode (and the BBC incompetence surrounding it) UK and Eurozone based child molesters have looked on well-satisfied at the peer’s Threat Campaign and its consequent effect. In the UK media – even in its blogosphere – this has been to damp down, and in many cases extinguish completely, all information about the activities of a vicious Establishment paedophile ring during the 1970s and 1980s. Dead perpetrators, it seems, are fair game: so Cyril Smith, Anthony Blunt and Jimmy Savile are out there. The simple reason is that you cannot in law libel or slander a dead person. One could think of this as a sort of cowardly necrophilia on the part of the British MSM: but as The Slog predicted at the time, the main result of McAlpine’s entirely savvy fear-offensive has been to place the guilty men under even closer protection.


The whole story here:
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Eurosites start to speak plainly about the Elm House scandal

Eight Monday Club Members in the frame

Prominent Conservative donors and former Ministers, MI5 agents and senior diplomats, policemen and local government officials: they’re all on the Elm House list, and they all offer clues about Plod’s foot-dragging over the case. The Slog analyses the names, the connections, and the motives.

Over the last ten days, a body of French and Dutch speaking websites have been posting articles about ‘The emerging paedophile scandal in England, and its ramifications for the Netherlands’. Since the McAlpine episode (and the BBC incompetence surrounding it) UK and Eurozone based child molesters have looked on well-satisfied at the peer’s Threat Campaign and its consequent effect. In the UK media – even in its blogosphere – this has been to damp down, and in many cases extinguish completely, all information about the activities of a vicious Establishment paedophile ring during the 1970s and 1980s. Dead perpetrators, it seems, are fair game: so Cyril Smith, Anthony Blunt and Jimmy Savile are out there. The simple reason is that you cannot in law libel or slander a dead person. One could think of this as a sort of cowardly necrophilia on the part of the British MSM: but as The Slog predicted at the time, the main result of McAlpine’s entirely savvy fear-offensive has been to place the guilty men under even closer protection.

The Rocks Lane scandal (which has seen only sporadic media coverage since Labour MP Tom Watson’s silence-inducing Commons question last October) is in reality a large-scale but relatively straightforward case of paedophile networking, local government bribery, Home Office cover-ups, and international child trafficking.

The facts as established by the dedicated team investigating the Elm House/Richmond Council/Rocks Lane abuse are these. Most of the visitors to the house were showbizz or political celebrities, all the children were supplied by Richmond Council in return for money, and all the children were in the Council’s “care” home system at the time. The worst abuse seems to have been during the 1978-92 period, after which sniffing around by police and journalists on various occasions caused the regulars at Elm House to go underground. A reasonably large number of the children were also trafficked abroad, chiefly to paedophile rings in Holland.

But my last post on this (linked above) on February 27th predicted that the UK MSM would name a senior former Conservative Minister from the Thatcher era, and that his collar would be felt by the police, within hours. I posted this because a very good source close to the case told me so. I still think that person believed it would happen. It hasn’t. Look at some of the European mainland-based sites about the case, and it’s not hard to see why.

When Watson asked his question (although of course the Prime Minister had notice of it) the stunned silence in the House was curiously reflected by David Cameron’s obvious discomfiture. We are five months on, and once more the Mouse of Plod keeps bisecting the distance between himself and the Hole of Justice. Meanwhile, the Paedophile Pussy Cat purrs contentedly, waiting to pounce.

Evidence now being examined by Metropolitan Plod links 69 year-old Sherborne resident Charles Napier to Peter Righton. Now widely reported as a high-profile child-abuser (he’s dead, so it’s OK to do that) Righton was one of Britain’s most high-profile and prolific paedophiles. He founded the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), while Napier was at one-time its treasurer.

As one so often finds in this grubby underworld, Righton was a leading child protection specialist….another penetrator of a wide-open care system. When police raided his house in 1992 they found not only hard-core child abuse images from Amsterdam, but an enormous body of correspondence proving beyond any doubt that he and Napier had organised a network of paedophiles right across the Globe.

But hold three thoughts there: Righton was raided in 1992 (after which the Elm House devotees scurried back under their stones), there was an obvious Amsterdam link, and there was clearly a help-each-other Odessa-style protection and child-marketing system. (Further, in 1981, Tory MP Geoffrey Dickens gave the Home Secretary Leon Brittan a dossier about Elm House. It disappeared, and Brittan’s alleged attendance at the guest house abruptly ceased.)

Plod then raided Napier’s flat in London, and found correspondence in which he boasted of prolific child abuse while working for the British Council. While doing so, he collected hard-core child porn and sent it back to the UK for distribution….via the diplomatic bag.

The Slog has posted several times about the British Council, and also about the Diplomatic Bag scam. This cypher route was used on several occasions by a senior British euro-politician for the same purpose. If the solids do ever start to hit the fan about all this, the Government’s defence will be as follows: this was all a long time ago, and oh alright then one or two of them were senior Tories, but there are no links to anyone currently holding power today.

Because of libel fears, I think there is every chance they might pull that one off. I also believe firmly now that at least two media proprietors and the security services will be aiding and abetting in the process…for reasons that will become clear below. The problem is, there is only a slim chance that this represents the truth.

There exists a list of Elm House regulars. The only raid done by Plod in the last few months has been of a victim support group to take the list off them. Why? Once again here, we have all the hallmarks of a cover-up – to follow those seemingly conducted by three separate Home Secretaries and two Welsh Secretaries over the last thirty or more years. To my knowledge, nobody has yet analysed just how explosive this Elm House visitor list is, or indeed if it’s genuine. I have tried (and failed) to find out if Plod thinks the list is genuine – I do find it odd that criminal sex perverts would leave such obvious evidence at the crime-scene – and I have tried to find any evidence of those on it taking the obvious step for any innocent person – that is, going public to denounce the document as a load of old tosh.

All I can say is that, if it is genuine, then the ‘all a long time ago’ defence simply won’t wash. My sense is that the Coalition Cabinet is sh**ting bricks about this, and that the cops are under enormous pressure to drop the whole affair. Let’s take the European site content I’ve been observing in recent days (yet again, thanks to Slogger alerts) and precis what the more reliable purveyors of the list are saying.

To read more link to this amazing website
http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2013/03/...cabinet-today/
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Wink Article in The Sun Today .....

Sorry this is a bit off topic - article in support of David here and it could do with some supportive comments if y'all get time

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...g-lizards.html

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Sorry this is a bit off topic - article in support of David here and it could do with some supportive comments if y'all get time

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...g-lizards.html

Two things are interesting here.
1. David is suddenly (coincidentally? I think not) getting a lot more MSM coverage just lately. As well as This Morning, and BrandX, we now have The Sun article.

2. Several are out to make him look like a fool again and try discredit him. Coincidence? I think not.

My main point?

We are edginng ever nearer to exposing the cesspit. Tptb dont like it.

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"And Terry Earland, Richmond's head of services for children and families, warned that it could lead to an increased demand on more expensive services such as foster or residential care.

August

ELMBRIDGE

A ban on sex offenders being rehoused in Elmbridge was rejected by the housing committee.

Councillors argued that offenders should live where police and social workers can monitor their behaviour, rather than allow them to assume a new identity and disappear."

http://mobile.harrowtimes.co.uk/sear...w_of_the_year/

A reminder that although spelled as above, it may be pronounced "Erland" thus written down phonetically.
A good reminder of actual name, yes. Be interesting to probe his time at Elmbridge.
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I've had a letter plus questionnaire from MEP Martin Callanan put through my door, asking for my opinions on the EU.

I would like him to answer a few questions of my own

I feel like putting a comment of my own in some of the boxes


Q I what matters most to your family

Ans may need some help here...that paedophiles within nhs, judiciary government etc are weeded out and brought to justice

Q2what matters most for your country

Anyone got a creative answer. It's a free stamp, so I'll have a free go
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