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Old 06-02-2013, 09:46 PM   #48001
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Never understood where the 'debate' on Saviles supposed service as a Bevan boy came from. Sure he said and wrote contradictory things, but he was a lying piece of shit. The earliest he would have been down the mines was in 1944, as stated in the article. I posted an eye witness account of his days in the Yorkshire mines aeons ago on this thread, his mining days were short and brief and his back injury was probably fake to get him out of service. How he managed to dodge national service is the more relevant point, a working class eighteen year old given a free ride though the war. He had made himself some powerful friends even by then, and I suspect that all happened when he was running his dances in the early forties, a magnet for nonces no doubt.
My personal opinion is that the Bevin Boy story is merely a cover, the explosion and spinal injury merely a cover for those back home and to neighbours, to explain what he was doing during wartime. Given that he stated he was in France within a month of the end of the war, something that would have been incredibly difficult at that time, I suggest he may have been a member of M16/ SOE, the Special Operations Executive, which conducted espionage, sabotage and reconnaissance and aided resistance movements in France. It would have been in this position that he may have had his first contact with Mountbatten and may also explain his exceptional ability to recognise planes. It would also explain his incredible clearance to royalty and prime ministers.
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Old 06-02-2013, 09:50 PM   #48002
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'A Land Fit for Criminals'. Some very interesting comments:

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Pete, did you notice this link from the comments page.

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Old 06-02-2013, 09:56 PM   #48003
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Stephen King announces sequel to The Shining, Doctor Sleep

Another shot of Red Rum as the horror writer pens a follow-up to his most famous novel, featuring psychic vampires and a cat that predicts the future

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It’s been a long wait for those wondering what happened to young Danny Torrance following his terrifying supernatural experiences at The Overlook Hotel - but it’s almost over.

Horror writer Stephen King has announced (via his offical website) that a sequel to his best-known novel The Shining is set to be published in 2013, 36 years after the original first scared the wits out of readers.

The new book, Doctor Sleep, pits Danny Torrance - now middle-aged and known as Dan - against The True Knot, a group of quasi-immortal beings who live off the psychic “steam” produced by torturing to death children gifted with the Shining, the same psychic ability that Danny once possessed.

Having drifted for decades, “haunted by the inhabitants of the Overlook Hotel” and “desperate to shed his father’s legacy of despair, alcoholism, and violence,” Dan finds refuge in a New Hampshire town.

Working in a hospice, and “aided by a prescient cat”, he uses his remaining psychic powers to provide comfort to dying patients.

But then Danny meets 12-year-old Abra Stone, whose spectacular gift - "the brightest shining ever seen" - draws him into "an epic war between good and evil".

The Shining, King's third novel, has sold over a million copies since it was first published in 1977. In 1980, director Stanley Kubrick turned it into an acclaimed movie featuring a now iconic perfromance from Jack Nicholson (pictured) as Danny's murderous father.

Also, didn't realise until today that Kitty is a Barbadian citizen - wonder what extradition laws are???

Nice story in today's DM bout "Queen Camilla" and her new project of providing toiletries for rape victims. Nice that Teresa May supports this "good cause". Sickens me that they always prey on poor victims to make themselves look good.
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:00 PM   #48004
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My personal opinion is that the Bevin Boy story is merely a cover, the explosion and spinal injury merely a cover for those back home and to neighbours, to explain what he was doing during wartime. Given that he stated he was in France within a month of the end of the war, something that would have been incredibly difficult at that time, I suggest he may have been a member of M16/ SOE, the Special Operations Executive, which conducted espionage, sabotage and reconnaissance and aided resistance movements in France. It would have been in this position that he may have had his first contact with Mountbatten and may also explain his exceptional ability to recognise planes. It would also explain his incredible clearance to royalty and prime ministers.
"Nobody will ever know what you have done for this country, Jimmy. This is to go some way in thanking you for that."
He wouldn't have worked atbletchley would he. The code breakers. He was in Mensa. On the other hand he might have been a bit young. Bletchley not far from stoke mandeville.
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:03 PM   #48005
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Have you noticed the conflicting reports about the night of the raid?

On one hand, there was a party in full swing and loads of arrests.

On the other, there were only 9 people booked, and 3 of them were sharing a room, and only Harry, Carole and a member of staff were arrested.

2 completely different stories out there. Queer.
I think there was more than one raid. One in May and another in August. I have to go and check cuttings but I belive the Kasirs were in court in May 1982. The raid that was reported in Sun, Times, etc. was in August 1982.
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:08 PM   #48006
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An interesting thought just struck me. Tony McSweeney is 66. He was ordained in 1984. The usual age for ordination of RC priests back then was 25, which would make him 53-54 now. So what was he doing during the missing years?
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:15 PM   #48007
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Hi - this is my first post and I just wanted to say the research you have carried out and the information you have collectively gathered is incredible.

I hope I am not going over old ground but I thought this is worth a mention. Cosmo99 earlier made reference to Field Mcconnell, an American pilot. He recorded several interviews called '911 Truth, Crown Agents, City of London, Twisted Sisters'. In episode 2 he talks about Madeleine Mccann, trafficking and crown agents. Barrister Michael Shrimpton recorded an interview with Bristol Community Radio on 11.1.13, claiming Madeleine died December 2008. Both men are referring to paedophilia at high levels.
A big welcome to you achilles, and thanks for posting

Is there a link at all to a copy of the interview?

Crown Agents keep coming up, and were in the astonishing Spivey blog posted yesterday about Cameron and all sorts of links to...well everything.

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My personal opinion is that the Bevin Boy story is merely a cover, the explosion and spinal injury merely a cover for those back home and to neighbours, to explain what he was doing during wartime. Given that he stated he was in France within a month of the end of the war, something that would have been incredibly difficult at that time, I suggest he may have been a member of M16/ SOE, the Special Operations Executive, which conducted espionage, sabotage and reconnaissance and aided resistance movements in France. It would have been in this position that he may have had his first contact with Mountbatten and may also explain his exceptional ability to recognise planes. It would also explain his incredible clearance to royalty and prime ministers.
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I completely agree. It may or may not be related, but there was a very interesting post weeks or even a month or more back about national treasures being hidden in deep tunnel networks (I forget - was it in Wales?) that I wish I could find again. I'll bet he was more involved in that 'type' of thing than any Bevin Boy stuff.

And, for the record, I still think he was marked from birth for important things. I don't know if that's an important point anymore, really, but it's what I think.

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Stephen King announces sequel to The Shining, Doctor Sleep

Another shot of Red Rum as the horror writer pens a follow-up to his most famous novel, featuring psychic vampires and a cat that predicts the future

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It’s been a long wait for those wondering what happened to young Danny Torrance following his terrifying supernatural experiences at The Overlook Hotel - but it’s almost over.

Horror writer Stephen King has announced (via his offical website) that a sequel to his best-known novel The Shining is set to be published in 2013, 36 years after the original first scared the wits out of readers.

The new book, Doctor Sleep, pits Danny Torrance - now middle-aged and known as Dan - against The True Knot, a group of quasi-immortal beings who live off the psychic “steam” produced by torturing to death children gifted with the Shining, the same psychic ability that Danny once possessed.

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Also, didn't realise until today that Kitty is a Barbadian citizen - wonder what extradition laws are???

Nice story in today's DM bout "Queen Camilla" and her new project of providing toiletries for rape victims. Nice that Teresa May supports this "good cause". Sickens me that they always prey on poor victims to make themselves look good.
Many thanks for posting, and sorry for 'clipping' your post (where I put '...').

The Shining as a film is worthy of its own thread, and there is at least one on here. Kubrick sure has a place here though (friendship and working relationship with Peter Sellers, ditto Arthur C. Clark, Eyes Wide Shut, etc etc).

The new The Shining follow-up sounds like truth dressed up as fiction to me. Much like the His Dark Materials trilogy that I've posted about before (terribly-written books but incredible ideas, until you realise they're not wholly imaginative ). King's a messed-up fellow and has seen some 'stuff' in his time', that's for sure. Might be worth looking into his life a bit.
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:17 PM   #48008
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I think there was more than one raid. One in May and another in August. I have to go and check cuttings but I belive the Kasirs were in court in May 1982. The raid that was reported in Sun, Times, etc. was in August 1982.
Ah, that makes sense, thank you. Will try to work that one out.

Am thinking like a tabloid hack, thanks!

Have you got into the Richmond & Twickenham Times archives yet? I've been searching, I don't think they are online.

Do you know if they are at Colindale? I think they may only be available at Richmond Library. Would make our life far too easy to have them all on tap, eh?

The Richmond Council archives aren't digitised for this period and the paper archives have been given to Fernbridge.

Your work is fantastic. I'm sure many people on here would commit a day or two to helping you if you need. Only problem is trying to get a card/renewal for BL. Mine has expired, out of academia. How hard is it?
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:21 PM   #48009
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On ITV now, Mary Moss being interviewed too.
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:24 PM   #48010
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well its still getting coverage on late news so hopefully will reach people who dont know anything about it all

Im hoping the police are using the technique of catching the ones that may blab and give evidence on the bigger names..well one can hope
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:30 PM   #48011
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Many thanks for posting, and sorry for 'clipping' your post (where I put '...').

The Shining as a film is worthy of its own thread, and there is at least one on here. Kubrick sure has a place here though (friendship and working relationship with Peter Sellers, ditto Arthur C. Clark, Eyes Wide Shut, etc etc).

The new The Shining follow-up sounds like truth dressed up as fiction to me. Much like the His Dark Materials trilogy that I've posted about before (terribly-written books but incredible ideas, until you realise they're not wholly imaginative ). King's a messed-up fellow and has seen some 'stuff' in his time', that's for sure. Might be worth looking into his life a bit.
There's a fella that reckons Stephen King shot John Lennon.

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I think there was more than one raid. One in May and another in August. I have to go and check cuttings but I belive the Kasirs were in court in May 1982. The raid that was reported in Sun, Times, etc. was in August 1982.
That would make sense of the conflicting stories.

But, it means that after the first raid they were allowed to continue running the guest house, so there were no convictions in May?

They left court and were allowed to continue running a brothel until August?

I am seriously confused now.
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:32 PM   #48013
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Whoopee... On the ITV news... Mary Moss & Elm Guest House ... Fantastic & looks like we / you are all making progress. This amazing huge thread can not be ignored by the public & for justice. We need to protect these young vunerable children, so they never have to endure tese atrocities ever again in our country & worldwide.

Keep up this amazing work all, sorry I don't add much, but try when I get time. This is such a fast moving thread it's hard to keep up.

I hope the law will arrest and prosecute these sick bastards and show those that we are a string force.

Well done to you all ... God Bless you all ... hugs x
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Oops apologies for spelling errors ... Fat fingers! X
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:37 PM   #48015
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Did I ever tell you that I met Stephen King ?

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It's a very funny story

Let's hear it then...
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:39 PM   #48016
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I completely agree. It may or may not be related, but there was a very interesting post weeks or even a month or more back about national treasures being hidden in deep tunnel networks (I forget - was it in Wales?) that I wish I could find again. I'll bet he was more involved in that 'type' of thing than any Bevin Boy stuff.
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:40 PM   #48017
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Haroon kasir, works driving disabled children....and I correct?

My mates autistic son was abused by the driver of the school disabled bus. Just thibking out aloud......

And he was wanted in spain......filty scum, if he can, harry sure can....
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What about catacombes, I know they got hidden ones all over the place, I saw one documentary about ones in france and italy, eygpt ect.....
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:45 PM   #48019
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That was owned by McAlpine wasn't it ?
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What about catacombes, I know they got hidden ones all over the place, I saw one documentary about ones in france and italy, eygpt ect.....
yes, they used those too
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