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Old 18-12-2012, 11:34 PM   #33921
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yurp, imagine if you had to socialise with the likes of these, appear on telly with them etc.

Makes me re-evaluate why people chase fame. I know a guy who's a bloody excellent singer. Far better than any of these pervs so far. Could make a mint. He's got no interest at all in being famous.

Kitty?

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Old 18-12-2012, 11:36 PM   #33922
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Will the train hit the buffers on a Mayan Calendar day ?
shall we call Rupert the Bear and see...?
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Old 18-12-2012, 11:37 PM   #33923
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Good Lord, whatever were their parents thinking...!
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Old 18-12-2012, 11:44 PM   #33924
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Claydog. I have just come to the same conclusion myself I think Edward viii is a very strong candidate. There are veiled references to his out of control womanising during the 20s and 30s. My other candidate is his younger brother ~George duke of Kent

Here is his wiki page!!!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_...,_Duke_of_Kent

Note he was also Grandmaster of the UGLE. E-mail Grandsec on that one!
I think it could honestly be a number of bed hoppers. And they do like to cuckoo their bastards off to other familes.. Eddie VIII is one of my faves for the culprit though.
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Old 18-12-2012, 11:46 PM   #33925
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yurp, imagine if you had to socialise with the likes of these, appear on telly with them etc.

Makes me re-evaluate why people chase fame. I know a guy who's a bloody excellent singer. Far better than any of these pervs so far. Could make a mint. He's got no interest at all in being famous.
I had a talent that could have made me famous, but always knew instinctively that fame was a dangerous trap, even as a young teenager and I subconsciously sabotaged my career.
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http://www.theworldoftruth.net/Halle...videos/No3.mp4

This has got to be worth a watch, a direct link between Royal Paedophilia and Heroin Smuggling. Illegitimate Royals, Churchill, Charlie, Camilla etc etc etc
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Old 18-12-2012, 11:50 PM   #33927
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Florida State Prison...........Broadmoor and now this prison, I bet he didnt get the keys for there? or may be still
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Old 18-12-2012, 11:54 PM   #33928
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I had a talent that could have made me famous, but always knew instinctively that fame was a dangerous trap, even as a young teenager and I subconsciously sabotaged my career.
looks like the best move you ever made.
only two outcomes in that game, victim or offender
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Old 18-12-2012, 11:55 PM   #33929
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UGLE

they pick these names on purpose

Like the NHS dept which murdered my mate Anthony H. Wilson

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===•••===
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SUTENT is the drug that saved my life six years ago

After developing renal cancer, and having one kidney removed in 2007, Wilson wished to take the drug sunitinib (aka Sutent), the £3,500 per month cost of which was not funded by the Manchester Primary Care Trust. He was turned down by the NHS, while patients being treated alongside him at the Christie Hospital and living just a few miles away in Cheshire received funding for the medication, for other conditions.

A number of Wilson's music industry friends, including former Happy Mondays manager Nathan McGough and their current manager, Elliot Rashman and TV stars Richard Madeley and Judy Finnegan, formed a fund to help pay for Wilson's medical treatment.[13]

Wilson said: "This [Sutent] is my only real option. It is not a cure but can hold the cancer back, so I will probably be on it until I die. When they said I would have to pay £3,500 for the drugs each month, I thought where am I going to find the money? I'm the one person in this industry who famously has never made any money. I used to say some people make money and some make history, which is very funny until you find you can't afford to keep yourself alive. I've never paid for private healthcare because I'm a socialist. Now I find you can get tummy tucks and cosmetic surgery on the NHS but not the drugs I need to stay alive. It is a scandal."[13]




If you lived in the north-west at any time after 1973, it was impossible to ignore the indefatigable broadcaster, music mogul, social activist, proud northerner, football fan, writer and exhibitionist Tony Wilson, who has died aged 57 of a heart attack after being diagnosed with cancer earlier this year. For years, he was known as plain Tony Wilson, both as an extremely opinionated, populist Granada television presenter and as an idiosyncratic Manchester music impresario who dedicated his life to making the city internationally famous for its music, nightlife and pop culture. From the moment he appeared on television, and especially after he combined his daily Granada duties with his antics as self-appointed ringleader of the Manchester music business, he was someone you loved, or hated, or loved and hated at the same time.
In the 1990s, typically writing his own history as he went along, he made it clear he preferred to be known as Anthony H Wilson. The pompous self-publicist part of him, enjoying the fact that the bigger name sounded grander and would take up more space, announced that this was because he wanted "to wind up all the people in Manchester who think I'm a flash cunt". The more reflective Wilson admitted to me that: "I never liked Tony. I was always Anthony to my mum. I just wanted to be Anthony again."

Wilson was born in Salford, Lancashire. His German grandfather came to Salford in 1901, and his family ran three jewellers' shops before moving, when he was five, to the leafier Marple, near Stockport. His mother felt it would be a better place to bring him up, but he kept in contact with the grittier, more darkly romantic Salford. After passing his 11-plus, Wilson won a place at the Catholic boys De La Salle grammar school in Salford. He developed a love of literature and language after he saw a performance of Hamlet at Stratford-upon-Avon.

He felt, as someone who understood the accelerating importance of popular culture, that he was always in the right place at the right time. He was 13 "in the school playground when the Beatles happened" and he was studying English at Jesus College, Cambridge, "when the revolution in drugs happened". A flirtation with anarchic politics possibly contributed to his underperforming 2.2 degree, but certainly infected his unique, often haywire approach to life, work, art, music, family and business; the way he would take everything ridiculously seriously, and not seriously at all.

After Cambridge, he began his career in journalism as a news reporter for Granada television. Granada was at the time one of the great northern institutions, and he found a home there, one that could, occasionally - only just - indulge his tendency for a naughtiness that in the bland context of a tea-time magazine show was almost dangerous. With schoolboy long hair and a hippy/glam twist to his newsreading suit, he exploited his sweet side and became a teenybop hit and grandma's favourite. Many in the north never forgot when he was a cross between David Cassidy and David Frost, when he would be not so goodnaturedly booed as he arrived at rock concerts, and this contributed to suspicions later when he pursued more provocative activities.

Wilson, though, quick to adopt new personas, and adapt to new circumstances, adored the attention, and shrewdly exploited his role as local minor celebrity when it came to what he was really interested in - helping Manchester to recreate itself as a major city, with its radical, inventive and progressive traditions intact.

As a now respected mainstream broadcaster, in 1975 he accepted a job on the BBC's Nationwide magazine show. He was driving down to London to a new life when he had misgivings. A few miles outside the capital he rang his boss at Granada and asked if his old job was still open. It was. He turned back. He would never entertain the idea of leaving the north again.

The first sign of Wilson's interest in the counterculture and in radical ideas was when Granada allowed him to present his own What's On section of Granada Reports. This covered the local arts and music scene, and in 1976 it turned into his own pop music show, So It Goes. His suit replaced by a leather jacket, his hair still heart-throb long, the overeager Wilson looked out of place, as he did as one of the 40 or so people who turned up to see the Sex Pistols play at the Lesser Free Trade Hall in June 1976.

Everyone in the audience was inspired by this incendiary performance to react in some creative way. Many formed bands - Buzzcocks, Magazine, Fall, Smiths, Simply Red, Joy Division members were all present. Others became designers, writers or took up roles in the music business. Wilson was galvanised by the event, by the combination of anarchy and music, philosophy and pop, danger and delight, image and protest, and it changed his life, as it did Manchester itself. He immediately invited the Sex Pistols on to the second and final series of So It Goes, which was never shown in more than three ITV regions. Taking pop culture seriously as a social and political force, it was ahead of its time. It still would be today.

By 1978, still a grinning Granada personality, Wilson formally entered the music business by opening the Factory Club in Hulme to showcase new local music talent. Factory then became a record label. Wilson ran it with fellow northern Catholic grammar school boys, the designer Peter Saville, the producer Martin Hannett, actor and manager Alan Erasmus and Joy Division manager Rob Gretton. Inevitably the label was like no other; deeply northern, stubborn and disorganised, it released records with a reckless anarcho-capitalist verve and an indifference toward profit that verged on performance art. It became the great Manchester label despite not signing Buzzcocks, Magazine, The Smiths, The Fall or The Stone Roses. What it did have was Wilson, part glib newsreader, part cultural curator, part exuberant nuisance, part revolutionary warrior, inspiring, or needling, those around him. The subversive Factory Records became the link between Manchester's reforming radical past, the Sex Pistols' legendary performance and the new modernised Manchester that Wilson had in mind.

Factory's best-known group, Joy Division, became New Order after the 1980 suicide of singer Ian Curtis. Wilson fed off even this dark energy, confirming the views of those doubting his motives. He blithely carried on with his great plan. With Joy Division/New Order money, Factory "gave back to the community" by opening the Hacienda Club in a textile showroom turned yacht salesroom. Beautifully and wittily designed by Ben Kelly, it looked like something you found only in New York, and anticipated a new, bold 21st-century Manchester filled with canalside apartments and boutique hotels. After a shaky few years, by the mid 80s it found its function as a dance club importing experimental house music from Detroit and New York.

Factory's Happy Mondays bound together the exotic new dance rhythms with a groggy Lancastrian verse, and in the movement known as Madchester was born the commercialisation of the abstract, agitating spirit of Factory, and the spirited postmodern skittishness of Wilson. Wilson, as the self-appointed public face of the movement, became the tabloids' Mr Manchester, and enthusiastically presided as militant marketing mastermind over the transformation of the city into a global brand.

Factory farcically collapsed in 1991 with debts of £2m. The Hacienda was eventually shut down in 1997 by order of the police after a frenetic decade of being the night-time home of hedonism and a magnet for thrill-seekers. Wilson was still a now slightly more weather-beaten Granada pin-up. He claimed to be the man who bought loft living to the city. He became increasingly vocal in his only slightly ironic call for regional self-government in the north-west, fancying himself as chairman of the north, to the horror of Liverpudlians. He was played by Steve Coogan in the 2002 film 24 Hour Party People, which represented his life as chaotic comedy and Wilson as daft Dada daredevil. He attempted new versions of Factory, endlessly curious for the next new thing, the next pop-culture revolution, but he never managed to follow his great innovations, Factory, or the Hacienda, or So It Goes. The history he had written for himself as post-punk saviour of Manchester was too powerful to improve upon.

He lived out his final months after having a cancerous kidney removed with typical restlessness, curiosity, anger, good humour and fearlessness. His enormous impact on his beloved Manchester over the last 35 years is undeniable. To some extent, even if he did say so himself, this compelling, unique hybrid of selfish visionary, TV hack, charming bully, generous tyrant, commissioning editor, playful philosopher, inconsistent genius and down-to-earth intellectual regenerated a declining city both economically and culturally.

He was married twice, to Lindsay, and Hilary, who was the mother of his two children, Oliver and Isabel. In 1991, with his partner, Yvette Livesey, who also survives him, he set up the In The City Music Conference, another enterprising attempt to put Manchester on the world map. "I am the boss," joked Yvette. "He's just the mouth."

· Anthony Howard Wilson, record label boss, broadcaster and impresario, born February 20 1950; died August 10 2007



I watched 24 hr party people again last night. Had an urge to grab it and watch it.. Mostly because of Sean Harris who played Curtis, his lyrics and then suicide has always bothered me..

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Old 19-12-2012, 12:00 AM   #33930
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looks like the best move you ever made.
only two outcomes in that game, victim or offender
too right, I was a kind of victim anyway due to my staying involved half-heartedly in an unhealthy environment, should have just jacked it all in there and then
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Old 19-12-2012, 12:01 AM   #33931
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Good Lord, whatever were their parents thinking...!
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Old 19-12-2012, 12:07 AM   #33932
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Part of Antarctica named after Queen
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20757382



Part of the British Antarctic Territory is named in honour of the Queen, who also receives 60 place mats at her historic visit to a cabinet meeting.



i cant believe this old cow has named a bit of land after herself
Queen Elizabeth Land
this is taking the piss surely

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Old 19-12-2012, 12:10 AM   #33933
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It would be far more interesting to know the details of Andrew Neil's connection with Max Clifford.

Or more precisely what Max Clifford has on Andrew Neil.
I did hear that Andrew Neil ran naked through a party, screaming, as if it were for his life, wired on something.

These creatures are merely puppets in the show, their weakness's are manipulated intentionally placed into situations that will compromise them and BAng, compromised. Oldest trick in the book.

Max "Mr FIX IT" Cliford, who do you really work for? Who's got your back covered? (as if we need to ask).
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Old 19-12-2012, 12:16 AM   #33934
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Keith Lemon is set to host his own version of 'Jim'll Fix It' for ITV 1.

The 'Celebrity Juice' star will host 'Lemonaid' on Saturday nights and show bosses are hopeful that it will emulate the success of the late Sir Jimmy Savile's BBC One show, which saw the wishes of young viewers granted.

Dan Baldwin, head of Talkback Comedy said: "We want to reflect the great wish fulfillment shows from yesteryear but add a very special twist of Lemon."

Speaking about the programme which will air for six weeks in the spring, Keith said: "I'm very excited to be in the living rooms of the lovely ITV1 viewers with me new telly show.

"Solving people's problems and making dreams come true, making me look nice like Cheryl Cole, like when she went out to the troops. She's lovely isn't she? Not as fit as Kelly Brook though! If anyone has ever dreamed of meeting her, let me know - I can hook you up, I know her in real life."

ITV entertainment commissioner Claire Zolkwer added: "We're absolutely thrilled. He's been entertaining the ITV2 audience on 'Celebrity Juice' for six series and his unique brand of naughty but nice is going to bring some colour and fun to family Saturday evenings on ITV1."

Sir Jimmy Savile - who presented 'Jim'll Fix It' from 1975 to 1994 passed away last year at the age of 84.

http://www.list.co.uk/article/40006-...it-style-show/
Wow I got the shivers on that one. When I alluded to him earlier I had no idea he was in the pipeline for that job.

He has the same hair, similar accent....
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Old 19-12-2012, 12:16 AM   #33935
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I watched 24 hr party people again last night. Had an urge to grab it and watch it.. Mostly because of Sean Harris who played Curtis, his lyrics and then suicide has always bothered me..
That gets my hair bristling - definitely something very wrong there for me 'just' on instinct. Same as Michael Hutchence and Paula and Kurt (tied into Bob now earlier in this thread of course)...

Claydog, do leylines converge on Manchester?

Anders - a very powerful post, thank you so much. What a guy Tony Wilson sounds - a visionary, incredible stuff. If he was your friend I'm sure we'd love to hear whatever memories you want to share. But what a guy he seemed xxx

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Part of Antarctica named after Queen
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20757382



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i cant believe this old cow has named a bit of land after herself
Queen Elizabeth Land
this is taking the piss surely
I think you've posted in the wrong thread. P.s I know there all peado sick f:::s but the artical is in the wrong place.
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Old 19-12-2012, 12:21 AM   #33937
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Wow I got the shivers on that one. When I alluded to him earlier I had no idea he was in the pipeline for that job.

He has the same hair, similar accent....
And is a sex pest too who would of thought it.
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Old 19-12-2012, 12:29 AM   #33938
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http://www.theworldoftruth.net/Halle...videos/No3.mp4

This has got to be worth a watch, a direct link between Royal Paedophilia and Heroin Smuggling. Illegitimate Royals, Churchill, Charlie, Camilla etc etc etc
Thanks Jimmy - looks interesting. I can't get this to play though.......

EDIT - I D/L VLC (opensource media player) and am watching the video now. Too early to make an opinion...
Thanks again

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I think you've posted in the wrong thread. P.s I know there all peado sick f:::s but the artical is in the wrong place.
well they did say savile the tip of iceberg.....she went and took one. maybe this is were they going on holiday on the 21st
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Thanks Jimmy - looks interesting. I can't get this to play though.......
there are transcripts of the videos on www.theworldoftruth.net. Not sure what to make of Hallett though...
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