religious nuts

[loveforall]

i went to a primary school only muslims were allowed to attend. i find it ridiculous how mind controlling it was. everyday we were forced to pray at a mosque situated next to our school. we were told not to sit with our legs out in front of us because it was offensive to god.

i lived next door to an elderly religious christian couple in my early years. from then till now it has made no sense to me how we are told to obey the lord because he is watching. for many years i allowed myself to live in that prison. 3 years ago i turned 20 and started doing my own research.

all those years of fasting (because i thought god was watching), wasted. i look back and enjoy the experience but now if i choose to fast (when ever i choose) it is because i feel the need to cleanse my body for a few days.

i´ve open my mind to the point where anything is possible. it took me up until about a year and a half ago until i picked up ickey work. a lot of it resonated immediately with me, other stuff i´ve had to do my own research on.

i´ve always been my own person (something that can drive my religious mum a bit totty, but she respects me and that´s all that matters) and have questioned life and my take on it. i dont anymore, i allow my intutítion to take me where i need to be and show me what i need to see. iow: i just go with my flow...not god´s or jesus´or mohammeds´.

so what i am saying is look beyond this jesus came to save you thing, look beyond this ridiculous antichrist thing. look beyond this god thing because you ARE it, your every moment is affecting the world. there is no god dictating to you because you are it.

open your eyes, open your heart and open your mind and you will then be in control of yourself, because if you are expecting a saviour, good luck cause it may take a while. But everyone is allowed to believe whatever they like and so you should live...that is what freedom really is-let no one tell you what is happening or ´going to´ happen, you are affecting what is going on in your world right now. we all just ARE and we can change if we choose but no problem can be solved in the same mindset that it was discovered in.

peace and love for all...

[pollock]

It always gives me a good feeling when I hear young people who have already entered the path of understanding, there are so many confused (who can blame them though?) youths today, I wish you the best of times to come!

Peace
F

[father ted]

Good to read.
Spread the word! Have you spread the word to your friends?

[i am all i am]

G'day Loveforall,

It's good to see people free themselves from the RMCF (religous mind control fraternity). Here's a couple of quotes I'm pasting from another thread that I posted them on...

'The Crucifixion of Truth', by Tony Bushby, page 166.

"Today he is called Mohammed (570-632), but his real name was Lothar Schmalfuss. Ancient Christian writings recorded a remarkable revelation about Mohammed's early religous life and revealed the true reason for the commencement of the Islamic faith. The reference is found in a book called 'Chronica Majora', a summary of world history from biblical Creation to the year of the author's death. It was written by Matthew Paris (d.1259), a pious Christian monk, described by the church 'as an historian who holds the first place among English chroniclers'. From his quaint specimen of Abbey records, the erudite Monk explaines how Mohammed started an 'impious religion':
It is well known that Mohammed was once a cardinal, and became heretic because he faile to be elected pope. Also (later in life) having drunk to excess, he fell by the roadside, and in his condition was killed by swine. And for that reason, his followers abhor pork even unto this day."

Good old Mohammed was in fact a member of the Holy Roman Church prior to starting the Islamic faith. So, the Qu'ran is as fictitous as the Bible is. Lothar Schmalfuss became Mohamed, to start the Islamic religion, because he wasn't elected Pope.


"How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of christ has been for us and our predecessors."
- Pope Leo X, The Bible Fraud, Tony Bushby.

He totally debunks the christian bullshit myth and has that little gem on the islamic religion within his books.

A bit of ammo. for you if someone wants to give you any grief.

Well done, congratulations, hip-hip-hooray, wooo-hooooo, FREEDOM rules.


With LOVE.

[loveforall]

i welcome those who try and give me grief because it is so easy to see through their fear...what all my life believing in ´god´ and this nut tells me there is not one? i love that look on their face. and when i tell them that they should not straight out believe me and do their own research and conclude their own theories they simply have no response because the reverse of what they know has struck a cord. a serious heavy metal cord...

i have told my friends, family and plenty of others, but unlike them i have always thought my own thoughts and always questioned authority. i allow people to their opinions, as conservative as some may be (im from a pretty conservative south africa, though not always) when they open their mind their intutition will soon follow.

it´s warming to know that others that people you have never met before can show support. if it resonates with me i go with it, i´ve always thought that, since reading ickey i just keep taking me where i need to be, the syncronisities are astounding sometimes.

peace and love for all

[father ted]

You're from south africa? You should hop on over to credo's place Btw, do many people know about credo over there or are familiar with who he is and what he's about?

[loveforall]

credo lives in the eastern cape, i live in the western cape where many have no idea who he is let alone what he is about. soon i will venture out, but i hear credo is quite suspect about people wanting to interview him, with all his experiences i dont blame him.

[oneofmany]

Originally Posted by loveforall

credo lives in the eastern cape, i live in the western cape where many have no idea who he is let alone what he is about. soon i will venture out, but i hear credo is quite suspect about people wanting to interview him, with all his experiences i dont blame him.

See if you can get David to give you an introduction? it's worth a shot

[loveforall]

how does one contact david directly?

[lucifershammer]

well said loveforall.

I was raised catholic. forced to go every saturday morning (weekday nights in Highschool) to CCD. and typing this reply just now, i just realized that in all my years, i've never learned what CCD stands for. a quick search on wikipedia brings up 'confraternity of christian doctrine" i suppose they have the 'con' part right.

btw, my screen name is from the classic larry niven sci-fi novel 'lucifers hammer'. not from any religious context.

[lumukanda]

Originally Posted by father ted

You're from south africa? You should hop on over to credo's place Btw, do many people know about credo over there or are familiar with who he is and what he's about?

as far as i can gather this is the story regarding credo.
he WAS the official storyteller and historian of the zulu nation, however when he published indaba, my children (from which he recieved not one cent!), he was telling the sacred stories of the zulu nation, for this he was 'excommunicated' from the zulu nation as it were. i have asked many zulus that i know if they know of him, and most of the time i have recieved rather harsh replies that he is not a zulu, or that he is a traitor.
he is one of only 3 sanusis, the highest degree of african shamanism, if my memory serves me, one of the others is in egypt, which is in of itself quite telling about the scope of african culture, so many secrets there!

from what i've heard and read (linda tucker and brenda sullivan being 2 that come to mind) mutwa himself is not adverse to speaking to people, but resistance comes from two places, firstly he has groups of people that protect him, shaman bodyguards if you like, they move him from place to place, and secondly from groups of publishers, many of the things he speaks about are under copyright, so it's carefully watched.
mutwas is a great man, but he lives as a virtual prisoner, but from what i've heard, if you can get hold of him by post, he's more than happy to reply, getting to meet him in person is the really difficult bit.
i know that about 2 years ago he was living in soweto, but i have trying to track the guy down for years and still have had no luck, i've even tried contacting linda tucker on her website (www.whitelions.org) but have got no response from her either, but as you say, no wonder really, the man has been done in so many times.
but the other day i got an unexpected surprise, my girlfriend works in a ceramic art studio, and they've been commissioned to make a series of tiles for a mosaic depicting the stories in indaba, my children, they are to be auctioned off and the proceeds are to go to credo, he's having a hard time financially apparently, and i have begged and pleaded to be put on the guest list, so hold thumbs for me, i may meet the guy yet!

[earthseed]

My mother attempted to raise my brother and I as Southern Baptists. They are one of the most fanatical groups out there. It failed both him and I are more metaphysical in our thinking. It helped that our father was the same way. My mom is still very much into her I would call cult. And there is no reasoning with her, her whole social life is built upon that religion. I've lost count how many screaming matches we've had over it. You just get to the point where you let these people think what they want and realize that they are never going to get out of this slavery it is infinite for them.

[blackyblue]

Christians did not start it.

This was way back when David Icke first started.

This thread was very nearly one of the first threads created and there was no signs of any war between any religious groups until THIS thread began on page 229