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Old 05-09-2012, 03:39 PM   #21
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My moneys on China!


I know I would rather hold gold than fait paper bearing fractional (!) (made up!) currency! I know of no one who would disagree!


It's a case of deceit against gold! NO CONTEST!


How could gold become worthless against computer rigged paper?

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My money's on GOLD!

I have a gold sipp pension in Zurich. Not in my hands, but best I can do at the moment.

The only way the USA can get out of their dollar debt obligations is war, but all the other big players are ready and waiting to deal with that ploy. The USA is phucked, once they mop up the middle east, China will be top dog and the USA will crumble into a third world hellhole, much like Detroit is now.

This has been the plan for centuries and the last three Alan Watt shows describe in detail how this will go down.

http://cuttingthroughthematrix.com/

Alan Watt "Cutting Through The Matrix" LIVE on RBN:
Poem Copyright Alan Watt Aug. 31, 2012:
Masters Minding the Way:
"Advertising and Media Shape the Culture,
Training and Changing to Suit the Vulture
Which Sits Atop the Perch of Humanity,
Promoting Essentials and Items of Vanity,
Drive Now is Austerity, More Money for Less,
More Profit for Owners of Production I Guess,
And Punitive Measures for Non-Compliance
Of CO2 Taxes Sure to Cause Much Defiance,
Owned by World Masters, Confused Herd Stray
Into an Upgraded System, They Still Pay,
There's Always the Hope It won't Get Too Bad,
They Adapt without Knowing, It's All Too Sad"
© Alan Watt Aug. 31, 2012
* Poem & Dialogue Copyrighted Alan Watt - Aug. 31, 2012 (Exempting Music, Literary Quotes, and Callers' Comments)
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Aug. 30, 2012
Alan Watt "Cutting Through The Matrix" LIVE on RBN:
Poem Copyright Alan Watt Aug. 30, 2012:
I'll be Damned, the Future's All Planned:
"Jacques Attali et al. Promote the Vision
Of Their Utopia Beyond Nuclear Fission,
Where Corporations Run the Planet,
On Lookout for Profit Like Hungry Gannets,
Ensuring all Peoples Conform to New Norms,
For Maximizing Profit Everyone Conforms,
To Self-Surveillance of Health, Consumption,
Obeying the Rules so There's No Disruption,
Propaganda of Scarcity Mandated in Schools
Complying with High Prices, Trained as Fools,
Constant Self-Monitoring to Avoid Penal Strife,
Or Insurance Will Skyrocket for Rest of Life,
The Sad Thing is, It can All Be Done,
Gadgets Prompt and Lead You -Go on, Have Fun"
© Alan Watt Aug. 30, 2012
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Aug. 29, 2012
Alan Watt "Cutting Through The Matrix" LIVE on RBN:
Poem Copyright Alan Watt Aug. 29, 2012:
Change is Cool from the Frankfurt School:
"Right or Wrong? Well There's No Such Thing,
You Must Adapt to Changes the Government Brings,
Order and Uniformity Needs Flexible Opinions,
Which are Constantly Altered for the Minions,
Today's Correct Will Be Wrong Tomorrow,
Failure to Adjust Means Shunning and Sorrow,
Only Bigots Hang On to Wrong or Right,
It Causes Discord and People Fight,
So Be Politically Correct and All-Embracing,
Or it's Room 101 You Will Be Facing"
© Alan Watt Aug. 29, 2012
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:41 PM   #22
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by pushing a few buttons on a keyboard, when the currency goes to shit, do you really think the majority of folks who do not have gold will be trying to buy gold with no money? or do you think they'd prefer to buy food? maybe you are just another gold investor on this forum attempting to push the price up?
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:43 PM   #23
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so you think the food owner will sell it for a worthless piece paper? or he will rather accept gold?

looks to me that only cabal fukkers can still be trying to promote dying fiat currencies... but that's just my opinion
Well said. Toilet paper v GOLD?

No contest!
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:48 PM   #24
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and who is he going to sell the gold to? Looks like sheep are still promoting gold.
You trade it for land. You buy viable businesses for pennies on the dollar, lol!

You are thinking of a desperate Mad Max situation, and there will be plenty of warning before that happens. You will find that most goldbugs are already well prepared for such a scenario.

In the short term, items like booze, matches, bottled water, tinned food, condoms, ammo, etc etc etc would be valuable to trade.

But underneath it all, the bedrock will be silver and GOLD.
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:50 PM   #25
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The gold is only the yellow brick road, silver and copper is a better exchange.


Governments or should I write; honourable governments should hold the gold for trading exchange while the people trade in silver. That way inflation is stopped as manipulation is much less possible.


An example, the first house we bought in 1972 cost £3,350.00, a detached 3 bedroom new build. The same house today costs £279,000.00, even with house prices falling! Via manipulation!

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Yup. Am waiting for the day when 10 ounces of gold will buy a nice brick house. Way things are going it won't be far off...
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FFS!
If the common folk do NOT HAVE GOLD SILVER COPPER, then how will his business survive?

And then along comes you with all your gold/silver/copper to buy fruit/vegetables/meat but how much do you think you have in today's rate/currency? Cause I bet you a ton of gold that the TPTB will inflate the value of ONE apple when SHTF.

Good luck with your investment.
You'll never get it mate.

Enjoy your toilet paper with 0.005 pc "interest" whilst inflation robs you of any perceived wealth.
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:03 PM   #27
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FFS!
If the common folk do NOT HAVE GOLD SILVER COPPER, then how will his business survive?

And then along comes you with all your gold/silver/copper to buy fruit/vegetables/meat but how much do you think you have in today's rate/currency? Cause I bet you a ton of gold that the TPTB will inflate the value of ONE apple when SHTF.

Good luck with your investment.


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"Jacques Attali et al. Promote the Vision
Of Their Utopia Beyond Nuclear Fission,
Where Corporations Run the Planet,
On Lookout for Profit Like Hungry Gannets,
Ensuring all Peoples Conform to New Norms,
For Maximizing Profit Everyone Conforms,
To Self-Surveillance of Health, Consumption,
Obeying the Rules so There's No Disruption,
Propaganda of Scarcity Mandated in Schools
Complying with High Prices, Trained as Fools,
Constant Self-Monitoring to Avoid Penal Strife,
Or Insurance Will Skyrocket for Rest of Life,
The Sad Thing is, It can All Be Done,
Gadgets Prompt and Lead You -Go on, Have Fun"


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Old 05-09-2012, 04:04 PM   #28
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FFS!
If the common folk do NOT HAVE GOLD SILVER COPPER, then how will his business survive?

And then along comes you with all your gold/silver/copper to buy fruit/vegetables/meat but how much do you think you have in today's rate/currency? Cause I bet you a ton of gold that the TPTB will inflate the value of ONE apple when SHTF.

Good luck with your investment.
Not ingots or paper gold bonds, but I have quite a big collection of jewelry collected over 60 + years, family silver and lots of old silver coins and many old copper coins pre 1972! Lbs of these!

All in old tins.

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Not ingots or paper gold bonds, but I have quite a big collection of jewelry collected over 60 + years, family silver and lots of old silver coins and many old copper coins pre 1972! Lbs of these!

All in old tins.

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I don't have quite as much as you, but whenever I buy jewellery I go for chunky silver .925 stuff.
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FFS!
If the common folk do NOT HAVE GOLD SILVER COPPER, then how will his business survive?

And then along comes you with all your gold/silver/copper to buy fruit/vegetables/meat but how much do you think you have in today's rate/currency? Cause I bet you a ton of gold that the TPTB will inflate the value of ONE apple when SHTF.

Good luck with your investment.

it is still much better than paper money.
how can you not see that?

I dont treat it as an investment, I dont buy gold to earn more, I buy gold not to lose my "money" when paper/digital money disappears.
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Old 06-09-2012, 10:41 AM   #31
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I don't see China forcing upon the rest of the world esp USA and EU. There would be a war in such case and China would surely lose.

Western paradigm and culture is dominating the whole globe and China meaning Asia is traditionaly a closed culture with history of isolation from "outsiders". I don't see that changing any time soon..

On the gold issue and economy crashing scenario:

There is only so much gold to go around and who has loads of cash money today; you can bet they have a stash of gold tucked in somewhere. Regular Joe's would quickly spend whatever gold they have simply cause they don't have much, thus being forced to work for living again when the order is restored. Back to square one.

To me gold is potentionally worse then fiat currency. Simply cause its more physical and potential for human greed is much greater.
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What's scary is with the dollar collapsing and China introducing a gold back currency, There will come a time when America will not be able to buy their own crops grown here in America.......but China will.
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How much land in the USA does China already own!

Quite a lot.
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How much land in the USA does China already own!

Quite a lot.
China owns most of my town they bought downtown dirt cheap...they will slowly quietly take over the USA without firing a shot...
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Old 06-09-2012, 01:30 PM   #35
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The article is badly written as it just repeats the same shit in different sentences..... it mentions 1KG gold bars and it also mentions 1 kilo bars, bad editing that reminds me of the Daily Fails style.

In 2009 china proposed this........ the system would be run under the IMF (google it)

If they let the wests economies all come crashing down..... who are they going to sell all of their shit to??? Seeing as both rely heavily upon one another.

Also gold is a rareish commodity.... gold is now used in various electronic equipment.... so unless they can keep producing more gold then the price will rise eventually..... if gold does become the new "currency" then gold production will obviously increase, speeding up the eventual rise in price alongside the hoarding of gold by the richest fatcats.

I understand that China want to guarantee the billions upon billions they have "lent" america...... and if something like this does actually happen then I imagine that they will ask for gold as collateral...... if america cannot pay then china will not be able to profit.... so I imagine they will continue to lend/trade but at different rates to the countries in chinas trade agreement.

Has anybody considered that if the Us/Eu economies do collapse then they will obviously have some sort of replacement for this wont they..... what the fuck this could be is under speculation...... but whatever it is wont be good for us (common people) will it..... as the rich will adapt the new rules to suit them and guarantee the continuation of their empires/wealth.

We wont stop using fiat currency........ people wont be going around with little gold coins..... im imagining since the last time they did use gold coins that there is probably an extra 4-5 billion people on the planet now .... so thats a lot of gold to go around.... the new fiat currencies will continue to be backed by gold in my eyes.

The balance of power from the banks producing currencies out of thin air will be transferred to the powers that produce and regulate gold..... different people who wish for wealth and power.... so this shit wont save the world...... it will just have different people at the steering wheel.

Ive often wondered about people who are so behind gold.... (some, not all) seem to be quite smug and put a lot of "faith" into its value...... but its value is only based upon the current economic system..... if that system collapses what makes people think that it will still hold the same value..... and if you do think that then please explain how this new system, that even isnt in existence yet (and might never)..... will price the gold that you posses???

How many people in the UK and other countries have quantities of gold??? Unless your into gold jewelery and "investing" then I would say the vast majority wont have hardly any....... so if the shit goes down and the economies shrink.... with more and more people becoming desperate for survival what makes people think that gold will be accepted by people when all they want to do is eat and feed their families..... when you havent eaten for a few days somebody offering you gold will be like "wtf"

Anyway thats enough of my thoughts on this shit...... lets wait and see.
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Old 06-09-2012, 03:32 PM   #36
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So many rumours about this for years, I'll believe it when it happens til then it's all speculation.
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Obama presided over choosing a Chinese President for World Bank some time back.
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