2-year results: No smoking/drinking.

[an_idiots_tale]

Well, I can say for certain that my health declined. I cannot think of a single positive thing it did for me. I'm back to smoking organic hand-rolled smokes and drinking good alcohol daily, and my health is improving rapidly. Emotionally, I experience happiness more often now, while before it was seldom. I really became withdrawn without them.

I have always had a bad case of candida from my moms side. Years ago, before the 2-year test, I cured it using a balanced diet that did include alcohol and smoking. I can say for certain that both alcohol and tobacco prevent candida from taking over the digestive tract, though taking probiotics such as raw milk, yogurt or kefir is a good idea. Candida, in my opinion, is the root cause of obesity/weight gain. And the root cause of candida is a diet that is not correct for the person.

Good article: Alcohol and health

[serpico]

Maybe you were depressed without your fix and your health declined. Congrats on the two year off but imo the good effects dont even kick in until 4-5yr off.

[an_idiots_tale]

Originally Posted by serpico

Maybe you were depressed without your fix and your health declined. Congrats on the two year off but imo the good effects dont even kick in until 4-5yr off.

I am not trying to say what's right for everyone, only to open their minds to other possibilities. Our world is riddled with "can not's" and "should do's." I say stare into the sun in rebellion of established beliefs.

I used to have the renunciate mentality such as the Buddhists, but it is not the ideal path for me. God doesn't want everyone to be the same, and gives us many paths to not only be our ideal human self, but to become genuinely spiritual. And the thing I learned and find so dear is the realization that being human -being fully your own, unique, expression- is spirituality.

[plam]

Wonderful thread!

You're on the right path, girl (?)!
You only do what works for you.

I already posted a thread on smoking
which you may want to check.
Does Smoking Really Cause Lung Cancer?

I'm glad to see alcohol vindicated too!

And the thing I learned and find so dear is the realization that being human -being fully your own, unique, expression- is spirituality.

Absolutely. Nature makes all unique for a reason.
The problem with society and people is
that we pursue already established models
we follow the ideas of other people

Whereas we should just reject it all.

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Alcohol vs. Lifestyle

Why drink to reduce the risk of heart disease? Wouldn't eating a good diet, exercising, and losing weight do the same thing?
No, it wouldn't. The moderate consumption of alcohol appears to be more effective than most other lifestyle changes that are used to lower the risk of heart and other diseases. For example, the average person would need to follow a very strict low-fat diet, exercise vigorously on a regular basis, eliminate salt from the diet, lose a substantial amount of weight, and probably begin medication in order to lower cholesterol by 30 points or blood pressure by 20 points.
But medical research suggests that alcohol can have a greater impact on heart disease than even these hard-won reductions in cholesterol levels or blood pressure. Only cessation of smoking is more effective. Additionally, other medical research suggests that adding alcohol to a healthful diet is more effective than just following the diet alone.

Moderate Drinkers are Less Likely to Suffer Coronary Heart Disease and Heart Attacks (Acute Myocardial Infarctions) than are Abstainers or Heavy Drinkers.

[sicknote]

Aren't both really bad for the skin?. I thought both aged it?.

Is it wise to smoke & drink during pregnancy?.

[an_idiots_tale]

Originally Posted by sicknote

Aren't both really bad for the skin?.

Things aren't so simple. If that were true, people who drink and smoke regularly would have skin problems, but I find the opposite to be the case. I had cystic acne when I was a high school student due to my poor diet and mercury fillings. I dropped out because of depression. I had the most horrible case of candida (which is related to mercury), and when I took good amounts of garlic and fruits such as blueberries, I would get boils on my skin. The body was pushing out toxins through my skin. Both alcohol and smoking, as well, broke down the yeast in my digestive tract and underneath it a large amount of heavy metals got released, and this would cause "allergic reactions" such as acne and a heavy hangover. A doctor would tell you to avoid those foods, but I disagree.

[an_idiots_tale]

Originally Posted by plam

Wonderful thread!

You're on the right path, girl (?)!
You only do what works for you.

I already posted a thread on smoking
which you may want to check.
Does Smoking Really Cause Lung Cancer?

I'm glad to see alcohol vindicated too!

Absolutely. Nature makes all unique for a reason.
The problem with society and people is
that we pursue already established models
we follow the ideas of other people

Whereas we should just reject it all.

I'm a guy actually. I will check out that thread for sure mate.

[sicknote]

Originally Posted by an_idiots_tale

Things aren't so simple. If that were true, people who drink and smoke regularly would have skin problems, but I find the opposite to be the case. I had cystic acne when I was a high school student due to my poor diet and mercury fillings. I dropped out because of depression. I had the most horrible case of candida (which is related to mercury), and when I took good amounts of garlic and fruits such as blueberries, I would get boils on my skin. The body was pushing out toxins through my skin. Both alcohol and smoking, as well, broke down the yeast in my digestive tract and underneath it a large amount of heavy metals got released, and this would cause "allergic reactions" such as acne and a heavy hangover. A doctor would tell you to avoid those foods, but I disagree.

When referring to the skin, I wasn't referring to acne or any skin condition. I was referring to skin ageing?.

So what your telling me is, your cystic acne cleared up after hearing smoking & drinking is heavily associated with drying out the skin? & this was your best course of action.


Candida isn't just related to mercury fillings. It's also associated with yeast overgrowth. Most people with yeast overgrowth can't touch alcohol as it literally feeds candida. Also with candida which loves to feed off sugar, you can't overdo it on the fruit front neither.

Link: http://www.thecandidadiet.com/foodstoavoid.htm

[herewardd]

Balance seems a good word.

Enjoy the drink & fags!

[profound]

Originally Posted by serpico

Maybe you were depressed without your fix and your health declined. Congrats on the two year off but imo the good effects dont even kick in until 4-5yr off.

4-5yr off? Why would the good effects of abstinence take so long? I would imagine that most benefits would be achieved withn a year but thats just an assumption after all the human body renews itself about every year from memory

[alienbiketrail]

Most of my friends who were drinkers and quit, and some of them who have actually joined AA,seem to me to be constantly thinking about a drink and how much they miss it.

A addictive personalty is a curse,because a cold beer in my opinion is a gift from heaven, or a heavenly realm or whatever a persons own belief in where this gift would originate from.

But if you can't stop on your own free will it becomes a issue. imo

[serpico]

Originally Posted by profound

4-5yr off? Why would the good effects of abstinence take so long? I would imagine that most benefits would be achieved withn a year but thats just an assumption after all the human body renews itself about every year from memory

It depends on the level and volume of addiction. I guess 4-5 year is long enough to forget the old life and begin a new one. The human body does renew itself, but that doesn't mean illnesses and body and mind damage only have a one year limit. Changing thought patterns can take decades.

[robbyblade]

Your health is declining because of poor diet.

Smoking and drinking makes you numb to your declining health.

I quit drinking and smoking 2 and a half years ago. I was also suffering digestive issues.

I quit and improved my diet.

You have to cut out grains and eat a more paleolithic diet. Otherwise, you will continue to deteriorate.

Alcohol feeds candida.

Raw grass-fed meats/wild fish, raw cheese, raw honey, raw butter, raw clabber/kefir, coconut cream/oil, raw vegetable juices juiced in a twin-gear juicer, 30% carrot, 25% celery, 20% cucumber, 10% cilantro, 10% parsley, 5% zucchini.

Absolutely no grains or other processed sugars. Fruit is good, but no more than a serving of fruit a day. Raw cheese, unsalted with the raw honey, especially after meals.

Weston A. Price, Aajonus Vonderplanitz. Sally Fallon, are the authors you should be reading.

Good luck. You're going to need it. I was a full blown alcoholic. I know how hard it is. Poor diet and antibiotics is what got me in the hole in the first place.

[profound]

Originally Posted by alienbiketrail

Most of my friends who were drinkers and quit, and some of them who have actually joined AA,seem to me to be constantly thinking about a drink and how much they miss it.

A addictive personalty is a curse,because a cold beer in my opinion is a gift from heaven, or a heavenly realm or whatever a persons own belief in where this gift would originate from.

But if you can't stop on your own free will it becomes a issue. imo

If a magic genie said I could have a million dollars or the freedom to drink without fear of destroying my health I would choose freedom to drink without question....

I have cut back of the past few years to a binge every couple months but I dont think I can do that any more my body is not getting adequate chance to heal I have many symptoms many have improved but some still linger.

Yes I miss it greatly not just the mind numbing buzz but also the social side. What is a shy single socially awkward person supposed to do without alcohol? I would love to go back to moderate consumption which I think I can do but I feel my health mandates abstinence.


Theoretically it should be possible to achieve total regeneration but depends on level of damage I suppose. Four months sober so far feeling better but also emotionally very empty isolated and bored. Now I just deal with coffee hangovers my next addiction I need to beat fun and games!

[robbyblade]

I miss the good times too. Alcohol was so easy and carefree, but the dark side of it became too much for me. The DT's were the scariest thing I have ever experienced.

Find something else to enjoy. Culture yourself more. I'm reading a lot more than I ever have before. I'm reading more plays and novels. I might start writing myself.

I feel fantastic. I'm coming up on three years sober. I see other people drinking now and I don't envy them at all. The longer I stay sober, the more ridiculous they become.

They get older and I swear I'm aging in reverse.

My older sister quit drinking over fifteen years ago and she looks great even after several children.

Nothing ages you as fast as alcohol.

It dries out your skin, and you can't even see what it does to every organ in your body, until it's too late.

I consider myself lucky that my brain seemed to be affected the worst first. It made me stop fairly early in life.

[swingslammer]

Originally Posted by an_idiots_tale

Our world is riddled with "can not's" and "should do's." I say stare into the sun is spirituality.

You know if you are truely serious about things you should and should not do.......I say you SHOULD stare in to the sun.....give it a good 10 to 15 minutes of solid staring to get the most benefits! Good luck.

[hypnoticspectre]

Why does robbyblade keep referring to Aajonus Vonderplanitz ??? The guy has been outed as a fraud! Yup he has no Phd or any Doctorate, other than those printed from a fake university (I can prove these facts) .. hes a farce who also sues honest people so quit with your atkin'esque bullshit Robbyblade! I for one am on to you ...

[hypnoticspectre]

http://www.naturalnews.com/036076_Aa...nutrition.html

It seems people that have met him say he looks awful and is also pretty rude (to say the least) Im not saying that some raw meat isn't heallthy, but just watch what your doing and also take what you read here with a pinch of salt!

[robbyblade]

Originally Posted by hypnoticspectre

Why does robbyblade keep referring to Aajonus Vonderplanitz ??? The guy has been outed as a fraud! Yup he has no Phd or any Doctorate, other than those printed from a fake university (I can prove these facts) .. hes a farce who also sues honest people so quit with your atkin'esque bullshit Robbyblade! I for one am on to you ...

Originally Posted by hypnoticspectre

http://www.naturalnews.com/036076_Aa...nutrition.html

It seems people that have met him say he looks awful and is also pretty rude (to say the least) Im not saying that some raw meat isn't heallthy, but just watch what your doing and also take what you read here with a pinch of salt!

Yeah, yeah, I know all about that shit.

First off, I really do think those two people were selling bad food, just from what someone else told me, but that's neither here nor there. I don't really car what was going on between those three people.

I can't defend the Phd thing. He always said it was honorary, which I always thought was weird because you're not supposed to put honorary degrees down as actual degrees. I just didn't care because his advice has worked for me and other people.

I don't know if I'd say he's rude, but he is definitely socially awkward. He has been autistic for most of his life. I don't think he understands certain things in this world. He looks terrible because he battled a lot of diseases, and he's 65 years old now. You can't undo everything.

Aajonus's work is really just raw paleo with raw dairy thrown in. That's all it is. You don't need his books to get on a healthy diet. His work follows a lot of other people's. I only mention Aajonus because he has done a lot of trial and error with people, and there is a lot to learn from there. His books kind of tied things together for me.

Also, no offense, but many of your posts make you look pretty crazy too. I just chalk them up to you having a weird sense of humor, or maybe you're drunk sometimes.

Nice to know you're "on to me" though.

[an_idiots_tale]

Ahhh, another diet thread.

Sicknote, I have cured my candida completely 2 times in the past. It was the European diet with a minimal amount of whole grains, but it's much better to abstain from grains. I also ate small amounts of fruits, as you said. Fruit becomes addictive when you have candida. Sea salt, on the other hand, is very beneficial to not only kill candida but to counteract sugar cravings.

The whole world has pressured me into thinking that eating meat is un-spiritual, immoral, and unhealthy. I was so convinced that I had to evolve to the vegetarian diet that every time I would become perfectly healthy using my traditional European diet, I would ruin my progress by going off the diet and eating vegetarian again. I've developed an eating disorder, you see. That's where I am now, trying to cure it yet again. Candida takes over the mind and the body and it's thoughts become your thoughts (aka schizophrenia). One day, I will be defending the vegetarian diet (which is the cause of my illness), but then the next day I'll come to my senses and realize that I have never --not once-- been healthy because of it. Unless you consider languor, weakness, anger and spiritual stagnation to be health.

As for alcohol, I disagree. Yeast causes water retention in the stomach. Alcohol is diuretic because it kills the yeast. My absorption/digestion improves after getting drunk. But, it doesn't benefit me drinking daily, at least I don't think so.