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Old 27-07-2012, 07:13 PM   #21
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unless, you have these verses memorized mentally ??..
it should be noted it took only 8mns to read, research, find, type, and post all these passages

*all of which taken out of context.

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Old 27-07-2012, 07:33 PM   #22
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unless, you have these verses memorized mentally ??..
it should be noted it took only 8mns to read, research, find, type, and post all these passages

*all of which taken out of context.
Yes it's all about 'context' when it comes to defending the primitive genocidal lunacy of the Bronze Age 'holy' scriptures.

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However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you.  You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land.  You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance.  You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.  (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)


  But if this charge is true, and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house.  Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst.  (Deuteronomy  22:20-21 NAB)


    And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed.  Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died.  (Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)

    But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house.  Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst.  (Deuteronomy  22:20-21 NAB)

    "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."  (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

    A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.  (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

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Old 27-07-2012, 07:34 PM   #23
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How is it a generalization?
When asked 81% of China said they weren't religious.

That's 1,088,745,300 people.

The population of your country is 311,591,917.

The simple fact of it is the majority of atheists are not white, in terms of the global population.

So yes, it is a generalization because you're coming at it from a perspective of USA = world.

Had the title been "Why are nearly all American Atheists white?" I wouldn't have had a problem with it.

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Old 27-07-2012, 08:27 PM   #24
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Well i thought that too before, but then if you look at even middle class blacks, they might not shout their religion from the rooftops but most still have a devout grandmother and a strong religious based family, and i have very rarely seen even middle class blacks describe themselves as an Atheist.

Malcolm X, Marcus Garvey, Muhammad Ali, Bob Marley, Tupac, Sam Cooke, Martin Luther King Jr, Stokely Carmichael...the list is endless.all of them believed strongly in God and never abandoned their love for God even when they got in prominent positions and/or became wealthy
Even Sammy Davis JR was in the Church of Satan.
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Old 27-07-2012, 11:26 PM   #25
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Why do all religious people ask STUPID questions?
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Old 27-07-2012, 11:31 PM   #26
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White people have had more brainwashing through the media for a longer period than the other races due to their more (technically) advanced economies.
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Old 27-07-2012, 11:39 PM   #27
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White people have had more brainwashing through the media for a longer period than the other races due to their more (technically) advanced economies.
Nope, 29.79% of China lives on less than $2 a day and 81% of the country is irreligious whereas in the USA it's only 15%.
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Nope, 29.79% of China lives on less than $2 a day and 81% of the country is irreligious whereas in the USA it's only 15%.
Religion was forbidden in the early years of Communist China, now people can only use religious institutions that are run by the Communist Party, any unsanctioned religious buildings are demolished.
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Old 27-07-2012, 11:51 PM   #29
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Religion was forbidden in the early years of Communist China, now people can only use religious institutions that are run by the Communist Party, any unsanctioned religious buildings are demolished.
Exactly, hence why the statement "nearly all Atheists are white" is factually inaccurate.

Religion is a cultural thing, when the culture erodes so does the religion, no matter what caused it.
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Nope, 29.79% of China lives on less than $2 a day and 81% of the country is irreligious whereas in the USA it's only 15%.
yuno what, that's the 3rd time you've repeated this viscious lie about chinese being irreligious
in this thread..i don't remember which WHITE men said it, but it was a whitemen : you repeat
a lie long enough people will start to believe its true.....

well,

ever heard of buddhism which pre-dates christianity ??
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Old 28-07-2012, 12:18 AM   #31
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yuno what, that's the 3rd time you've repeated this viscious lie about chinese being irreligious
in this thread..i don't remember which WHITE men said it, but it was a whitemen : you repeat
a lie long enough people will start to believe its true.....

well,

ever heard of buddhism which pre-dates christianity ??
http://www.pewforum.org/Importance-o...-Olympics.aspx

By the way, cyan text is annoying to read
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Old 28-07-2012, 12:25 AM   #32
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Yes it's all about 'context' when it comes to defending the primitive genocidal lunacy of the Bronze Age 'holy' scriptures.

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scriptures taken out of context removed !!!
again, going by the posttime of your reply and the diverse referenced biblical revisions
its obvious you are not reading any of these verses nor writing them out yourself only
copy/pasting them as replies thus pushing forward an agenda !!!

*you are NOT looking to have a proper discussion.

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Old 28-07-2012, 12:31 AM   #33
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http://www.pewforum.org/Importance-o...-Olympics.aspx

By the way, cyan text is annoying to read

what does it say.. does it say christianity pre-date buddhism ??

sorry, i don't do links since someone posted a link that lead to a computer virus
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Old 28-07-2012, 12:41 AM   #34
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what does it say.. does it say christianity pre-date buddhism ??
The thing is with Buddhism and folk religions is that even if the culture isn't eroded, as the society becomes modernized it often just becomes an element of ritual, without the belief behind it.

For example, most people in Japan are officially both Shintō and Buddhist, they have Shintō weddings and Buddhist funerals. However the only Japanese people I've ever met who showed any sign of actually believing in a religion were two middle aged women in Shinjuku station who tried to preach Christianity to me.

Also Buddhism is technically atheistic (bodhisattvas and devas don't count as they are still subject to the cycle of death and rebirth), which is different from irreligion, so even assuming your incorrect assumption that majority of China is Buddhist, it would still mean that the statement "nearly all Atheists are white" is wrong.

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Old 28-07-2012, 12:45 AM   #35
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because that is the only race that can afford to travel or that have tv's.

What's the real answer?
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Old 28-07-2012, 10:59 AM   #36
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Why do all religious people ask STUPID questions?
Why don't YOU atheists ever answer or discuss anything to do with religion, unless you can somehow corroborate it to the words 'science' and 'evidence'?

pseudo-highbrow Dawkins-Hitchens-Dennet soundbites are all the atheists ever want to throw out there. They seem unaware that not everyone has religion as a sort of pro tempore fad which will be ditched as soon as 'science can explain it'

Let's ask Dawkins why he thinks so many black people in the inner city have their God and are not paying any attention to the more well-off, usually white atheist chants of 'THERE'S NO EVIDENCE!'. Oh, that's right, Dawkins won't know because he's never been there and never makes any attempt to understand why religion is so important to minorities, and people living in poor areas.

You can't just block out ENTIRE demographics and populations of people who firmly believe in God and have for generations by saying 'It doesn't matter as science can't verify it'.
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its obvious you are not reading any of these verses nor writing them out yourself only
copy/pasting them as replies thus pushing forward an agenda !!!
It's obviously you that isnt reading them because if you did you would conclude that they are malicious, primitive and inhumane verses that were written by Bronze Age desert tribesmen.

Thus making your earlier assertion that:

'Godless societies have no morals'

Totally ludicrous.



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*you are NOT looking to have a proper discussion.[/COLOR]

Thats not true, id happily participate in any debate regarding morality and the Abrahamic religions.

Your sidestepping my posts because you know fine well you cannot defend the verses from the Bible that I've posted.

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Old 28-07-2012, 04:06 PM   #38
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Why don't YOU atheists ever answer or discuss anything to do with religion, unless you can somehow corroborate it to the words 'science' and 'evidence'?

pseudo-highbrow Dawkins-Hitchens-Dennet soundbites are all the atheists ever want to throw out there. They seem unaware that not everyone has religion as a sort of pro tempore fad which will be ditched as soon as 'science can explain it'

Let's ask Dawkins why he thinks so many black people in the inner city have their God and are not paying any attention to the more well-off, usually white atheist chants of 'THERE'S NO EVIDENCE!'. Oh, that's right, Dawkins won't know because he's never been there and never makes any attempt to understand why religion is so important to minorities, and people living in poor areas.

You can't just block out ENTIRE demographics and populations of people who firmly believe in God and have for generations by saying 'It doesn't matter as science can't verify it'.
What does the number of believers got to do with veracity......Yo, Guess what guy....People in groups are fucking stupid just look at nazi germany. Lemmings of a cliff.

I understand when you poor you might need something to grasp onto cause life is shit but doesn't mean it is real. It may even hinder progress however on the other hand if religious movements are doing something to help the poor in the affected areas then well that's a good thing
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I think the question,should have also had the added sentence.

And how can someone actually be a atheist, and really believe that way.imo

Everyone in my opinion has a right to believe as they want,and should have the freedom to follow what they believe, I just think a real atheist is few and far between.
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