If all are equal (some moreso)...

lesactive · 20-07-2012, 10:33 PM

... then this is quite interesting.

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"Where capitalized:"
(q) "Person" means an individual or any business entity including a firm, partnership, association, corporation or society, but does not include The City or the Calgary Police Service or any of their employees, who are acting within the course and scope of their employment;

http://www.calgary.ca/_layouts/cocis...edirect=1&sf=1

Seems to be, choice is at play

moobs · 20-07-2012, 11:31 PM

Well, obviously the people whose job it is to run the park aren't going to be subject to the same restrictions on their movements and actions as the general public. It's no different to a sign on a door reading "Employees Only."

straw man · 20-07-2012, 11:32 PM

Makes perfect sense in relation to the document.

aulus agerius · 20-07-2012, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lesactive

... then this is quite interesting.

http://www.calgary.ca/_layouts/cocis...edirect=1&sf=1

Seems to be, choice is at play

Hmm that's an oddly drafted by-law. The choice, at play, is however that of the legislator. Your emphasis on "acting within" suggests that you think this law allows members of the Calgary police to choose when the law applies. It doesn't. An officer of the police is either on duty of off. Off duty the law applies, on duty it doesn't (except, apparently, section 27).

lesactive · 21-07-2012, 12:13 AM

But, it is not my wish to be classified or designated by such terminology. Legislators can do that can they? Ha! Magicians, the lot of them.

aulus agerius · 21-07-2012, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lesactive

But, it is not my wish to be classified or designated by such terminology. Legislators can do that can they? Ha! Magicians, the lot of them.

Why don't you go tell that to the biologists who define you as homo-sapien, a bi-pedal vertebrate mammal?

lesactive · 21-07-2012, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by aulus agerius

Why don't you go tell that to the biologists who define you as homo-sapien, a bi-pedal vertebrate mammal?

Having never been interviewed, probed nor dissected by one I'd like to see where "I" am so defined. If I say you are a pedantic s.o.b. does that make it so or do I need a degree before you'd accept that title?

straw man · 21-07-2012, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by lesactive

But, it is not my wish to be classified or designated by such terminology. Legislators can do that can they? Ha! Magicians, the lot of them.

Unfortunately they can.

They have better dice.

moobs · 21-07-2012, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by lesactive

But, it is not my wish to be classified or designated by such terminology. Legislators can do that can they? Ha! Magicians, the lot of them.

Wizards, actually.

jaynette · 21-07-2012, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by aulus agerius

Why don't you go tell that to the biologists who define you as homo-sapien, a bi-pedal vertebrate mammal?

aulus agerius · 21-07-2012, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lesactive

Having never been interviewed, probed nor dissected by one I'd like to see where "I" am so defined. If I say you are a pedantic s.o.b. does that make it so or do I need a degree before you'd accept that title?

In which lesactive refuses to accept he is human. LOL

lesactive · 21-07-2012, 07:01 PM

I have clearly stated previously that I AM the spirit inhabiting this human body.

It's about consciousness, not appearance, but that's not getting through here. Naught that I can do about that nor do I have any desire to change what does not want to change. Enjoy your self.

jaynette · 21-07-2012, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lesactive

the spirit inhabiting this human body.

I didn’t ever believe there would be an occasion where I would agree with you les.

BUT I AM A PERSON,A HUMAN AND A LIVING ENTITY.I am not a company, a firm, or factory. I am not fiction. I live, I breath, have thoughts, ideas. I AM HUMAN.

lesactive · 21-07-2012, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jaynette

I didn’t ever believe there would be an occasion where I would agree with you les.

BUT I AM A PERSON,A HUMAN AND A LIVING ENTITY.I am not a company, a firm, or factory. I am not fiction. I live, I breath, have thoughts, ideas. I AM HUMAN.

Yay! You are who you choose to be.

zhiba · 21-07-2012, 09:52 PM

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rumpelstilzchen · 21-07-2012, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lesactive

Yay! You are who you choose to be.

Not at all.
You are what you are.

jaynette · 21-07-2012, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lesactive

Yay! You are who you choose to be.

I didn't say that les. I believe I have a spirit is what I agree with. I am also a person and not a company or a fiction.I amreal, I am human, is what I stated.

reverendjim · 21-07-2012, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jaynette

I didn't say that les. I believe I have a spirit is what I agree with. I ma also a person and not a company or a fiction.I amreal, I am human, is what I stated.

been a long time since i could even bother logging in to this place to respond to something...but this intrigued me....you believe you "have" a spirit.... not that you are spirit?

.... interesting....

lesactive · 22-07-2012, 06:45 PM

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been a long time since i could even bother logging in to this place to respond to something...but this intrigued me....you believe you "have" a spirit.... not that you are spirit?

.... interesting....

Aaaaand returning to the notion of person being a mask. Welcome back (if only briefly) rev.

If: human=person=mask
Then: I AM is wearing it, if you believe in such things. I do.

I AM in a mask of flesh.

Perhaps too much method acting is taking place. Many firmly believe that the world is not a stage and that they are not characters playing their part. They seem to believe that they are, in fact, their character. The indivisible duality that is the individual: flesh and spirit/consciousness, is a constant reminder of our temporality and since we are attuned to notice the body in appearance the spirit can easily get shuffled off into the background. Sometimes becoming nothing but a nuisance, a hangover through which we succour our bodies with various palliatives to forget. We can easily distinguish between the two but rarely does the notion get past the barrier of 'proof'. That's the personal part that skeptics eschew for lack of evidence.

Jaynette puts the emPHAsis on being the machine and not the operator. The spirit, although it exists for her/him, is merely along for the ride.

arayder · 22-07-2012, 07:47 PM

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I AM in a mask of flesh.

. . . and some of us are more flesh than others.

21-07-2012, 12:13 AM	#5
lesactive Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Location: Location: Posts: 971	But, it is not my wish to be classified or designated by such terminology. Legislators can do that can they? Ha! Magicians, the lot of them. __________________ Every law, no matter how minor, carries with it the possibility of violence, up to and including fatal violence.Every law considered should be considered with this in mind. No law should ever be passed that we are not willing to kill someone for during the execution of that law.A lot of people, especially lawmakers, don't farking get this.Or maybe they do.scarmig @ fark

21-07-2012, 07:01 PM	#12
lesactive Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Location: Location: Posts: 971	I have clearly stated previously that I AM the spirit inhabiting this human body. It's about consciousness, not appearance, but that's not getting through here. Naught that I can do about that nor do I have any desire to change what does not want to change. Enjoy your self. __________________ Every law, no matter how minor, carries with it the possibility of violence, up to and including fatal violence.Every law considered should be considered with this in mind. No law should ever be passed that we are not willing to kill someone for during the execution of that law.A lot of people, especially lawmakers, don't farking get this.Or maybe they do.scarmig @ fark

20-07-2012, 11:31 PM	#2
moobs Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 945	Well, obviously the people whose job it is to run the park aren't going to be subject to the same restrictions on their movements and actions as the general public. It's no different to a sign on a door reading "Employees Only."

20-07-2012, 11:32 PM	#3
straw man Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 160	Makes perfect sense in relation to the document.

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