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Old 14-07-2012, 03:17 PM   #1
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Hyaluronic acid is the most potent cell regenerator
It's in high concentrations in the chicken ... comb!
Does anyone know where to buy chicken combs in London?

Hyaluronic acid

Hyaluronic acid (HA, hyaluronan) is a special protein that exists naturally in all living organisms. In the human body, it is found in greatest concentrations in the synovial fluid of articular joints for lubrication, the vitreous humor (fluid) of the eye, and most abundantly in the skin. As we age, the body produces less Hyaluronic Acid. The joints become stiff and the movement painful, the skin becomes dry and wrinkly.

Hyaluronic acid (sodium hyaluronate, hyaluronan, HA) is a special mucopolysacharide that exists naturally in all living organisms. In the human body, it is found in greatest concentrations in the synovial fluid of articular joints for lubrication, the vitreous humor (fluid) of the eye, and most abundantly in the skin.

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Old 14-07-2012, 03:33 PM   #2
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Yes but not putting it on open forum...
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Old 14-07-2012, 04:53 PM   #3
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HA is one very good reasons why veggies
should consider animal products.

I hear chicken legs are good source too
Any ideas about chicken legs and feet in London?
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Old 14-07-2012, 06:09 PM   #4
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Buy your own chickens. Keep them inside your room. Feed. Them well. Once the time comes struggle them and Eat their legs. OR keep them alivE and suck ons their legs tillen acid comes free
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Old 15-07-2012, 01:04 AM   #5
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Old 15-07-2012, 05:08 PM   #6
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I spoke with a farmer today
she'll keep chicken combs and legs for me for next Sunday!
They throw it all
and she thought I was nuts for wanting to eat the combs!
She said: "Never heard such thing in my life!!"
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Old 16-07-2012, 12:16 AM   #7
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Checkout the research linking hyaluronic acid with cancers/tumours.

And no, don't be stupid enough to eat chicken combs.
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Old 16-07-2012, 09:34 AM   #8
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Checkout the research linking hyaluronic acid with cancers/tumours.

And no, don't be stupid enough to eat chicken combs.
I have, don't worry!
HA is prognostic marker, it shows up in tumors because it's a healing agent.
Correlation does not imply causation.

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Does hyaluronic acid promote or accelerate the spread of cancer?

For inexplicable reasons the first website listed by internet search engines for hyaluronic acid (HA) is a poorly founded opinion by a health writer that hyaluronic acid promotes cancer. This report has misled many people into mistakenly thinking oral hyaluronic acid, taken as a dietary supplement, may in some way promote cancer. Numerous times the author of that misleading report has been sent contrary studies, but has refused to remove the misleading information. So you will have to examine the topic for yourself.

Hyaluronic acid is produced continually throughout life, more so when very young and during pregnancy, when cancer rates are almost nonexistent. Yet the opinion prevails that somehow, taking oral HA might cause cancer.

For the naïve viewer of the medical literature, there are many reports indicating elevated levels of HA are associated with the spread of tumors, what is called invasion. Tumor cells can mobilize and spread (become metastatic) by using HA as a kind of biological “slide and slide.” However, taking oral HA supplements has little to do with this biological phenomenon. More HA shows up at tumor site because it is a healing agent. Anywhere there is a wound in your body, cells called fibroblasts make more HA.

A recent study, conducted by researchers in Finland , investigated the role of hyaluronic acid in squamous cell carcinoma (oral cancer). “At the end of the follow-up (median 52 months) 43% of patients had died because of this type of cancer. A significant difference in overall survival and disease free survival was noticed between the patients with the different epithelial staining patterns for HA. The reduction of HA staining was associated with poor survival . These results suggest that HA is a prognostic marker in oral squamous cell carcinoma.”

Notice the words “prognostic marker.” Since more HA is produced in tissues that are damaged by trauma, burns, toxic chemicals, or tumors, broken down (degraded) HA can be used to detect or measure the progression of tumors. This is akin to fire fighters who show up at fires. They are “associated with,” but not considered a cause, of the fires. The fire fighters are there to put the fire out, just like HA is attempting to heal the damaged tissue.

The difference between cause and association is easily understood by the following example. Let's say investigators want to know the causes of childhood pedestrian accidents. They collect data from all cases where children were hit by automobiles and they find that nearly all of the children were wearing tennis shoes. So, can we conclude that tennis shoes caused the accidents? Obviously not. The tennis shoes are only by-standers. So is HA.

Here is a study to examine. Finnish researchers noted that “hyaluronic acid is involved in the growth and progression of malignant tumors.” The researchers stated that “a high proportion of HA-positive cells of all cancer cells was significantly associated with deep tumor invasions, spreading to lymph nodes, and is associated with tumor progression and poor survival rate.” Sounds pretty terrible, to the uninformed reader, doesn't it? Notice the report says HA is “involved” and “associated,” but never indicates it was a cause of tumors or increased their severity. [Br J Cancer 79:1133-8, 1999] Hard paved roads are responsible for the severity of trauma when people are thrown out of cars in auto accidents, but we can't say the road caused the accident, can we?

Recently a study examined the role of various components of the connective tissue (the goo in between living cells, like mortar in between bricks). Tumor tissue from 86 patients with breast cancer that had not spread to lymph nodes yet was examined by staining the tissues so each type of connective tissue component could be identified (versican, chondroitin sulfate, tenascin, and hyaluronan. Researchers at the Hanson Institute in Adelaide , Australia , said: “analyses indicated that elevated expression of versican predicted increased risk and rate of relapse in this cohort. Elevated expression of tenascin was predictive of increased risk and rate of death only…… neither chondroitin or hyaluronic acid were predictive of disease outcome in this group.” [Clinical Cancer Research 10: 2491-98, 2004]
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Old 17-07-2012, 02:19 AM   #9
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I spoke with a farmer today
she'll keep chicken combs and legs for me for next Sunday!
They throw it all
and she thought I was nuts for wanting to eat the combs!
She said: "Never heard such thing in my life!!"
Sorry but what are the 'combs' on a chicken??
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Sorry but what are the 'combs' on a chicken??
It is the red thing on top of their heads
It looks like Mohawk hair cut

It is more pronounced with the roosters
It is also called "le creste"!



There are eight distinctive types of combs on chickens and roosters:
rose, strawberry, silkis, single, cushion, buttercup, pea, and V-shaped

This will be my Sunday lunch!
I will make a risotto with it



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Every moving part on every machine
depends on proper lubrication to protect against wear and tear.
The human machine is no different.

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Old 18-07-2012, 12:32 AM   #11
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It is the red thing on top of their heads
It looks like Mohawk hair cut

It is more pronounced with the roosters
It is also called "le creste"!



There are eight distinctive types of combs on chickens and roosters:
rose, strawberry, silkis, single, cushion, buttercup, pea, and V-shaped

This will be my Sunday lunch!
I will make a risotto with it



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Every moving part on every machine
depends on proper lubrication to protect against wear and tear.
The human machine is no different.

Oh ok cheers! The Risotto might be good mate, but are you certain that by eating something high in Hyaluronic Acid it will necessarly metabolise as the same and hence be taken up by the body as such?? I dont know just wondering if you do.
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Old 18-07-2012, 07:50 AM   #12
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oh god plam, I'd wish I were that chicken getting my throat slit open if I had to eat that.
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Old 19-07-2012, 08:28 AM   #13
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I'm a little confused by this thread - hasn't Hyaluronic Acid been peddled by Big Pharma for years?

I believe that Pharmacia (now part of Pfizer) received FDA approval in the 70's or 80's under the name "Healon" - and it is widely used in eye surgery, osteoarthritis and for wound healing.

So should I see HA as a good thing or a bad thing?

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I'm a little confused by this thread - hasn't Hyaluronic Acid been peddled by Big Pharma for years?

I believe that Pharmacia (now part of Pfizer) received FDA approval in the 70's or 80's under the name "Healon" - and it is widely used in eye surgery, osteoarthritis and for wound healing.

So should I see HA as a good thing or a bad thing?

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