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Old 12-07-2012, 11:53 PM   #41
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2 weeks ago i went into the garden early in the morning and i was bare foot, which is normal.
But what happened was that day i developed a rash on my feet and on the palms of my hands.
I looked it up online and it said it was Pompholyx Hand and Foot Eczema.
I have never had this before and ofcourse looked up what the causes are and one of them was contact with irritants.
I think that the early morning dew was polluted with whatever shit they have been spraying.
It has literally made the skin peel from my palms and soles of my feet.
Normal rain or dew doesnt do that.
And there is nothing else i can think that may have caused it.
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Old 13-07-2012, 12:38 AM   #42
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this could have just been propaganda at the time:

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L-29 remotely piloted vehicle programme: we know from intelligence that Iraq has attempted to modify the L-29 jet trainer to allow it to be used as an Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) which is potentially capable of delivering chemical and biological agents over a large area.
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Old 13-07-2012, 12:52 AM   #43
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They have been spraying like crazy today the first chance of a nice warm day after all the torrential rain, they come out in force.

I think there is a connection between the constant rain and the olympics.
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Old 13-07-2012, 02:12 AM   #44
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this could have just been propaganda at the time:



http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/li...924-usia01.htm

So this could be a test run.

Plane turns up durring olympics.
Gets shot down outside of London with hope it hits a field and not a house.
Wreckage proves to be Iranian unmanned jet carrying stuff.
Every nut in town goes to war with Iran.
Russia & china can do diddly.
Iran invaded and new leader placed.
BP gets revenge for being kicked out by ayatollah.
Oil is secured and BP recover loses from decades ago.
Security stays in place in all major cities because al qaeda also has drones and jets supplied by Venezuela and North Korea.
Christmas.
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Old 13-07-2012, 04:11 AM   #45
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this could have just been propaganda at the time:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/li...924-usia01.htm
I think you are on to something my friend..

yeah its not looking good is it :/

why more spraying for olympics I wonder...?
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Old 13-07-2012, 04:20 AM   #46
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When there is a gap between the clouds you can always see the dromes spraying...

They do it throughout the night now as well..check for the grey streaks against the backdrop of white/grey...

This is an allout 24/7 mass attack...

maybe its not an attack?

they might do it cause of the solar flare to protect systems....


but is the spraying harmful? could be a triple edged sword here
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back in april i had a plane circling around and around over north london this was unusual because normally the majority of the trailing planes come from the east and fly straight over and keep going, this plane just kept flying around and around in circles for about 15 minutes at jet speed., anyway you can see the 'rainbow' effect in a couple of the pics.

i spent quite a while searching for a closet match for the plane a L-29 delfin apparently a cheap jet aircraft to make unmanned, although i dont think thats particularly relevant.

http://articles.janes.com/articles/J...L-29-Iraq.html











looks like the military is fucking with us then

those planes dont carry much liquid


if they are testing the aircraft remotely it makes sense to use smoke to get data
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Old 13-07-2012, 07:14 AM   #48
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They have been spraying like crazy today the first chance of a nice warm day after all the torrential rain, they come out in force.

I think there is a connection between the constant rain and the olympics.
you could be right , interesting thought , a mass baptize before a big event possibly
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Old 13-07-2012, 10:17 AM   #49
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So no surprises here then after yesterday mornings heavy unloading and subsequent white out, today it's overcast, miserable and pissing down - coincidence? no such thing.

It's getting pretty tiresome having to put a fucking coat on to go out at what should be the peak of our good weather and coming back sodden through when you should be dry as a bone in your shorts and t-shirt. I've got no problem with cold miserable frozen winters so long as we get a bit of warm weather in the summer to off set it but no, it appears we're not even permitted that any more.

The U.K to me now just appears to be some perverse E.T experiment gone wrong...
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Old 13-07-2012, 11:32 AM   #50
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IGNORE all the shills that will infiltrate this thread....

I live in Manchester and we got absolutely blasted today..
Can you explain to me in a mature civilised way why someone is a shill.. just because they have a diffrence of opinion to you?
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Old 13-07-2012, 12:00 PM   #51
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IGNORE all the shills that will infiltrate this thread....

I live in Manchester and we got absolutely blasted today..
Can you explain to me in a mature civilised way why someone is a shill.. just because they have a diffrence of opinion to you?
As I said yesterday, I am not certain 'precisely what' chemtrail are/are for.

Geoengineering - ok, I can accept this, but with what specific intention? I guess if the ancient alien theory was true and the great flood was brought about using technology, they could do it again.

De-population - ok, but when will people start dying in their hundreds/thousands?

Solar flares - as I said, perhaps chemtrails are linked to (preventing adverse affects) of this, but again....this is 'could be'.

It seems to me that people are just like, 'look the bastards are spraying again'........ I get that, but what does it explicitly mean to us?
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Old 13-07-2012, 12:00 PM   #52
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For the last few years I totally bought hook, line and sinker that we are being sprayed like bugs with aerosols in the sky.

Many times I sat and watched a perfect blue sky turn to white. Yes, I see these artifical clouds all the time and they do have an impact on the weather. They linger and spread out their is no doubt and are un-natural and unseemly on the eye.

I asked myself the hard questions that if this were a massive conspiracy it would take HUGE PLANNING. Think about it. There would have to be hundreds of planes involved ; the planning would be massive, e.g. orchestrating flight paths for each of the planes and making sure that they don't bash into any commercial airliners, etc. ; Where are the whistle blowers? There would have to be so many people involved, even taking into account 'compartmentalization' ; Where are they taking off and landing from?

The thing is that Im still of the opinion that something is going on in terms of geoengineering. However a few things I have come to accept:

1. talking and telling friends about it people will only think you are nuts
2. you can't change it, there is nothing I or anyone else can do about it. Spending evey day looking up at them worrying is probably worse for your health than anything that is being sprayed.
3. Come back in 10 years time to this forum and there will still be the same contrail vs chemtrail debate. In other words = its pointless
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Old 13-07-2012, 12:12 PM   #53
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For the last few years I totally bought hook, line and sinker that we are being sprayed like bugs with aerosols in the sky.

Many times I sat and watched a perfect blue sky turn to white. Yes, I see these artifical clouds all the time and they do have an impact on the weather. They linger and spread out their is no doubt and are un-natural and unseemly on the eye.

I asked myself the hard questions that if this were a massive conspiracy it would take HUGE PLANNING. Think about it. There would have to be hundreds of planes involved ; the planning would be massive, e.g. orchestrating flight paths for each of the planes and making sure that they don't bash into any commercial airliners, etc. ; Where are the whistle blowers? There would have to be so many people involved, even taking into account 'compartmentalization' ; Where are they taking off and landing from?

The thing is that Im still of the opinion that something is going on in terms of geoengineering. However a few things I have come to accept:

1. talking and telling friends about it people will only think you are nuts
2. you can't change it, there is nothing I or anyone else can do about it. Spending evey day looking up at them worrying is probably worse for your health than anything that is being sprayed.
3. Come back in 10 years time to this forum and there will still be the same contrail vs chemtrail debate. In other words = its pointless
It could easily be concealed by the military using commercial airliners that are illegaly registered as commercial planes. The planes would fly from and to military bases. The military has commerecial airliners anyway for moving staff around.

The military has been already caught doing this in China and one African country at least. On both occassions the illegally registered planes were confiscated. I saw this a couple of years ago online news.
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Old 13-07-2012, 12:14 PM   #54
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With regards the lack of sun, I recommend people to take vitamen D. It is quite depressing at the moment, I live in Ireland and it is the same here. It is impossible anymore even to be into a bit of gardening. Garden centres in the UK and Ireland should not sell plants that require 'FULL SUN' - because there is no such thing!!

I do think the weather is being manipulated but with the chemtrails Im still not totally convinced (about 70% they are real, 30% not) and I have some logical questions about them. I want to remain objective if possible and am open to being wrong.

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Old 13-07-2012, 12:26 PM   #55
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Guys it's just the jet stream and the melting of arctic ice - the BBC says so.

It also says "Researchers say the atmosphere is 'holding' more moisture than it did 40 years ago" - Yeh and a bunch of other stuff it didn't 40 years ago too

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/18821920
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Old 13-07-2012, 01:22 PM   #56
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im guessing they want to 'normalise' those 'rainbows'.

from today

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A layer of stratocumulus clouds over the Pacific Ocean serve as the backdrop for a rainbow-like optical phenomenon known as a glory. Glories generally appear as concentric rings of colour in front of mist or fog. They form when water droplets within clouds scatter sunlight back toward a source of illumination. The Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer on NASA's Terra satellite captured image on 21 June 2012 on the lee side of Guadalupe Island.
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Old 13-07-2012, 02:09 PM   #57
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Looks like an oil slick in the sky.
Maybe the spraying is to disperse it like they do on the water.
Imagine the outcry at those making millions from poluting the skies, If the skies were oily and the oil easy to see.

Another thing.
Outside dirt that gets into the house on the air.
Water dont touch it these days, The dirt is sticky and needs detergent to move it.

Could the air be full of sticky gunge ?
Maybe they are spraying to disperse this gunge.
Obviously if this is the case we will see ground effects greater than dirt that wont budge with water alone (Damaged crops etc), Illness is bound to follow, Could this be why we had TV adverts asking people to go and have coughs checked out. Maybe they need info on how many if any people are experiencing lung problems caused by whatever they are spraying.
Time will tell i suppose.
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looks like the military is fucking with us then

those planes dont carry much liquid


if they are testing the aircraft remotely it makes sense to use smoke to get data

A tiny amount goes a long way.
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When relative humidity is low, contrails dissipate within seconds. But when relative humidity is high, especially at the subzero temperatures of the upper atmosphere, the addition of even a tiny amount of water vapor acts as a catalyst. Under these conditions contrails linger & spread to cover the whole sky. There's nothing going on, you're all wrong, it can be explained logically via science, the people that are apparently response for the toxic spraying breath the same oxygen as the people there apparently trying to infect, so how pointless & dumb would that be? And if there really was some giant conspiracy then I’m sure they would be carrying it out under the cover of darkness on the millions of night flights that fly every night, not in the middle of the day in broad day light

LOL, what a bunch of idiots

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When relative humidity is low, contrails dissipate within seconds. But when relative humidity is high, especially at the subzero temperatures of the upper atmosphere, the addition of even a tiny amount of water vapor acts as a catalyst. Under these conditions contrails linger & spread to cover the whole sky. There's nothing going on, you're all wrong, it can be explained logically via science, the people that are apparently response for the toxic spraying breath the same oxygen as the people there apparently trying to infect, so how pointless & dumb would that be? And if there really was some giant conspiracy then I’m sure they would be carrying it out under the cover of darkness on the millions of night flights that fly every night, not in the middle of the day in broad day light



LOL, what a bunch of idiots
Dumbass.

If they only did things at night people would question.

"Why do i see these trails at night and not durring the day, what makes the night so different?"

The trails are seen both night and day to make it seem normal.
Anything else would seem abnormal.
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