Anti-Masons retreat in Dismay & Confusion - Page 2

psquared · 03-07-2012, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lightgiver

How can people be anti masons..when you are not even Masons...

You are here giving Masonry a Bad name...inflaming the situation so to speak

anyone can claim to be something and Post a sigil avatar to imprint on peoples minds...does not mean its the truth...you are probably a bunch of Raving Neo Nazis.

Thing is you dont ..you just troll with no info about anything and constantly repeat yourselves, you've been at it all day, are the demons playing havoc with you.

Maybe you should respect what other people are posting instead of trashing this section constantly.

I was answering your request to prove myself. What would you like as proof as there is only one way to prove my membership as a Mason. I was trying to do that, AT YOUR REQUEST.

lightgiver · 03-07-2012, 10:23 PM

Nothing again I see. just mind Games...

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Originally Posted by psquared

Welcome to the David Icke forums.

You are free to discuss anything of interest, but please can we show respect for each other and the difficult job of the moderators who volunteer their time and hard work to ensure that the discussions are not hijacked and dominated by the few at the expense of the rest.

The David Icke forums have become a focus for lively debate, insights and information and I hope you enjoy your stay.

best wishes,

David

This was one of the first things I read when I began posting here two years ago. I have tried to adhere to David's advice...it's his site after all and if I wish to remain here I should respect that request. Would be great if everyone did the same wouldn't it. Respect. It's pretty easy if you have it inside you.

Thing is you dont ..you just troll with no info about anything and constantly repeat yourselves, you've been at it all day, are the demons playing havoc with you.

Maybe you and your mates should respect what other people are posting instead of trashing this section constantly...with mindless info less one liners...you are taking the piss boyo.

Why dont you go on a Masonic forum.

offramp · 03-07-2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lightgiver

[SIZE="2"]You are here giving Masonry a Bad name...

Earlier on Lightgiver, the defender of Freemasonry, accused someone of posting off-topic.

Please keep your posts PRO-Masonry and ON-topic!

psquared · 03-07-2012, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lightgiver

Nothing again I see. just mind Games...

SHould I show you my dues card? My Apron? What does that prove? Those can be bought online. I offered you the proof, the issue is you don't know how to test me. It's not written down, it's not on YouTube, its not in anyof the expose' stuff. It's all we have left to show we are really a Brother to one another. We ALL know it by heart. I am sorry I can't share it with you, but I tried....

That's information for you right there...the truth is we do have secrets and they are our modes of recognition...more than handshakes, more than silly questions like how old is your grandmother etc. We guard them for a reason...to make sure we are who we are.

lightgiver · 03-07-2012, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by offramp

Earlier on Lightgiver, the defender of Freemasonry, accused someone of posting off-topic.

Please keep your posts PRO-Masonry and ON-topic!

More nonsense again...Can you not troll a Masonic forum instead of this one .

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Originally Posted by psquared

SHould I show you my dues card? My Apron? What does that prove? Those can be bought online. I offered you the proof, the issue is you don't know how to test me. It's not written down, it's not on YouTube, its not in anyof the expose' stuff. It's all we have left to show we are really a Brother to one another. We ALL know it by heart. I am sorry I can't share it with you, but I tried....

That's information for you right there...the truth is we do have secrets and they are our modes of recognition...more than handshakes, more than silly questions like how old is your grandmother etc. We guard them for a reason...to make sure we are who we are.

You and your mates on here do not respect other people and what they are posting on here..why do you not go away and troll a masonic forum instead of this one.

psquared · 03-07-2012, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lightgiver

Nothing again I see. just mind Games...

Thing is you dont ..you just troll with no info about anything and constantly repeat yourselves, you've been at it all day, are the demons playing havoc with you.

Maybe you and your mates should respect what other people are posting instead of trashing this section constantly...with mindless info less one liners...you are taking the piss boyo.

Why dont you go on a Masonic forum.

Because the people who own this welcome me here. Why don't YOU be off if you have an issue? I am not keeping you here. Not directly anyway. When we need to be censored the Moderators will do so I would think. I have always stayed within their rules.

psquared · 03-07-2012, 10:31 PM

Here's a question for you LG....

What difference is it to you if I am a "real" Freemason or not? You say I am not, so I guess I am not. What doe you hope top prove by me proving that I am? Why do you care if I am or not?

lightgiver · 03-07-2012, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by psquared

Because the people who own this welcome me here. Why don't YOU be off if you have an issue? I am not keeping you here. Not directly anyway. When we need to be censored the Moderators will do so I would think. I have always stayed within their rules.

Do they..so were are they then...you are trolling..soon as info is posted you come along and slide it out the way...dont play games with me mate.

offramp · 03-07-2012, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lightgiver

You are here giving Masonry a Bad name...

Freemasons are here defending Freemasonry from nonsense written about it.
And we are doing it quite incredibly well!

psquared · 03-07-2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lightgiver

Do they..so were are they then...you are trolling..soon as info is posted you come along and slide it out the way...dont play games with me mate.

I am sure if they felt the same as you they would tell me. They haven't. I am just here to learn, and I am. A Lot.

lightgiver · 03-07-2012, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by offramp

Freemasons are here defending Freemasonry from nonsense written about it.
And we are doing it quite incredibly well!

But you are not..you are just trolling with BS.

You post naff all to do with masonry..

and you constantly trash other peoples posts and threads..cowardly behaviour.

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Originally Posted by psquared

I am sure if they felt the same as you they would tell me. They haven't. I am just here to learn, and I am. A Lot.

Really...yeah course you are.

psquared · 03-07-2012, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by psquared

Here's a question for you LG....

What difference is it to you if I am a "real" Freemason or not? You say I am not, so I guess I am not. What doe you hope top prove by me proving that I am? Why do you care if I am or not?

I will ask you again.

offramp · 03-07-2012, 10:38 PM

"Not many meek people on message boards.
I'm just here to hone my communication skills,
not looking to convert anyone...."

psquared · 03-07-2012, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lightgiver

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Really...yeah course you are.

I have learned a lot here. I learned a lot about how Masonry is different here in the states than in the UK. I have learned why there are differing sentiments about Masonry here than there etc. I have watched many posted videos and have heard and been respectful of many different opinions.
I have even learned form you some things.

psquared · 03-07-2012, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by offramp

"Not many meek people on message boards.
I'm just here to hone my communication skills,
not looking to convert anyone...."

I am not here to convert or be converted, to recruit or be recruited. I believe that one becomes wise by listening to what people hate him, or why they love him. Knowledge is attained by learning how other's think and feel. I certainly get that here. On the Masonic forums most all agree...not much to learn there as to people's perceptions of Freemasonry as the opinion is all from Masons.

dr steam · 03-07-2012, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by psquared

Because the people who own this welcome me here. Why don't YOU be off if you have an issue? I am not keeping you here. Not directly anyway. When we need to be censored the Moderators will do so I would think. I have always stayed within their rules.

I've heard that a characteristic of a Freemason should be a moral compass of good values and I do not see you having problems in that direction but I have to give LG right that there are some who say they should be mason and who evidently does not comply to this principle, remember one rotten apple can spoil the whole harvest think about it...

lightgiver · 03-07-2012, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by psquared

I have learned a lot here. I learned a lot about how Masonry is different here in the states than in the UK. I have learned why there are differing sentiments about Masonry here than there etc. I have watched many posted videos and have heard and been respectful of many different opinions.
I have even learned form you some things.

So what have you learned.

Keep it short if you can...like the rest of your posts.

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Originally Posted by offramp

"Not many meek people on message boards.

and that includes you pal.

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Originally Posted by psquared

I will ask you again.

NON Mason.

psquared · 03-07-2012, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dr steam

I've heard that a characteristic of a Freemason should be a moral compass of good values and I do not see you having problems in that direction but I have to give LG right that there are some who say they should be mason and who evidently does not comply to this principle, remember one rotten apple can spoil the whole harvest think about it...

There will always be, in every organization, people who are bad apples. I try not to be one. I try to be an example of a good person. LG may disagree it seems becasue he sure has called me some ugly things. My role is to take that and not mirror it. I have remained polite to him and respectful despite his temperment towards me.

lightgiver · 03-07-2012, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by psquared

. LG may disagree it seems becasue he sure has called me some ugly things.

So where is it then...these things I have supposedly typed.

All I have stated is that you are not a mason..due to the fact you cannot prove it to anyone...and not just me..Everyone.

all I see is troll like behaviour...and it not just on here ...its on every section of the forum..people with stinking agendas.

and dont tell me you do not have one...you've been at it all effin day...then your mates come along later to take over the reins.

loveisthelaw · 03-07-2012, 10:57 PM

Who cares if people are masons or not? I don't get it.... not that they are any smarter or wiser or thicker and dumber than non-masons; for instance I am not a mason but I know a bunch of their rituals (probably more than a chunk of real masons lol) but so what?

what does it matter, mason or not....... please enlighten me!

03-07-2012, 10:31 PM	#27
psquared Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Eastbound and Down Posts: 1,582	Here's a question for you LG.... What difference is it to you if I am a "real" Freemason or not? You say I am not, so I guess I am not. What doe you hope top prove by me proving that I am? Why do you care if I am or not? __________________ "....neither are you to suffer your zeal for the Institution to lead you into argument with those who, through ignorance, may ridicule it."

03-07-2012, 10:38 PM	#33
offramp Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 562	Great quote "Not many meek people on message boards. I'm just here to hone my communication skills, not looking to convert anyone...." __________________ Slowly the ivy on the stones becomes the stones...

03-07-2012, 10:57 PM	#40
loveisthelaw Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: UK Posts: 5,041	Who cares if people are masons or not? I don't get it.... not that they are any smarter or wiser or thicker and dumber than non-masons; for instance I am not a mason but I know a bunch of their rituals (probably more than a chunk of real masons lol) but so what? what does it matter, mason or not....... please enlighten me! __________________ All things by immortal power, near and far. Hiddenly, to each other linked are. Thou canst not stir a flower, without troubling of a star! Last edited by loveisthelaw; 03-07-2012 at 11:00 PM.