25-06-2012, 11:30 PM
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Alternatives to Google
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25-06-2012, 11:46 PM
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Good job, i'm in the same boat as you the last couple weeks i've heard alot about google. By the way it's not just google search engine, it's things like chrome as well. I've been using yahoo which i think is a lot better. There's webcrawler,dogpile. Although those last two i'm not 100% sure about who actually operates them so you could check that out, there both pretty decent.
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25-06-2012, 11:49 PM
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25-06-2012, 11:53 PM
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I found this on youtube maybe it will help. I think it is a list of hundreds of search engines.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=1ej59YrwA9Y |
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26-06-2012, 12:16 AM
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I use https://us2.startpage.com/.
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26-06-2012, 01:12 AM
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And search engines? Ixquick calls itself "the world's most private search engine" and claims not to collect any personal data about the user; https://ixquick.com/eng/ Last edited by dubster; 26-06-2012 at 01:17 AM. |
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26-06-2012, 04:44 AM
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https://startpage.com
Startpage Protects Your Privacy! Startpage, and its sister search engine Ixquick, are the only third-party certified search engines in the world that do not record your IP address or track your searches. Your privacy is under attack! Every time you use a regular search engine, your search data is recorded. Major search engines capture your IP address and use tracking cookies to make a record of your search terms, the time of your visit, and the links you choose - then they store that information in a giant database. Those searches reveal a shocking amount of personal information about you, such as your interests, family circumstances, political leanings, medical conditions, and more. This information is modern-day gold for marketers, government officials, black-hat hackers and criminals - all of whom would love to get their hands on your private search data. Why should you worry? Major search engines have quietly amassed the largest database of personal information on individuals ever collected. Unfortunately, this data can all too easily fall into the wrong hands. Consider the following story: In August 2006, the online world was jarred when AOL accidentally released three months' worth of aggregated search data from 650,000 of its users, publishing all the details in an online database. That database is still searchable. It is an absolute eye-opener to see the potential for privacy nightmares. —>Enter a query and find who searched for it —>Then click on a "User ID" to find what else this user searched for Shocked? You are not alone. When we search, we share our most private thoughts with our computers. These private thoughts should be safe. Startpage's position: You have a right to privacy. Your search data should never fall into the wrong hands. The only real solution is quickly deleting your data or not storing them to begin with. Since January 2009 we do not record our users' IP addresses anymore. We are the first and only search engine to do so. Our initiative is receiving an overwhelmingly positive response! Startpage will wholeheartedly continue on its mission to offer you great search results in the best possible privacy! Startpage/Ixquick Warranties: European Privacy Seal On July 14th 2008 Ixquick received the first European Privacy Seal from European Data Protection Supervisor Mr. Peter Hustinx. The Seal officially confirms the privacy promises we make to our users. It makes Ixquick the first and only EU-approved search engine. Both EU Commissioner Viviane Reding and Dr.Thilo Weichert, German Privacy Commissioner complemented Ixquick on its privacy achievements. You can find the press release here. Certified Secure, a leading Certification Authority, has certified Startpage's Privacy procedures. The CS Privacy Certificate has been awarded after an extensive audit. It safeguards your Privacy! Startpage has been registered with the Dutch Data Protection Authority (CBP) under number M 1346973. This Authority supervises the fair and lawful use and security of your personal data, to ensure your privacy today and in the future. Startpage/Ixquick's Privacy Q&A: * Why did Startpage decide to take leap steps in June 2006 and in January 2009? * Had Startpage ever data mined its search data for commercial use before 2006? * What is Startpage's policy now with regard to IP addresses and the use of ID cookies? * Why is it so important not to store IP address or User ID cookie? * It is great Startpage does not store my IP address, but what about any third parties? * How does Startpage make money if it doesn't store or sell my personal data? * I am getting personalized or localized ads while I am using Startpage.com. How is this possible? * How can I be sure Startpage fulfills its promises? * What are "cookies" and does Startpage use any? * How can Google install a Google cookie in my browser when I never use Google? * How does Startpage make use of the limited logfiles it does keep? * So, Startpage uses Google Web results. Is my privacy still protected? * What is the recently added "Startpage Proxy" service all about? * How does it work? * Will the proxy work with Javascript selected off? * How has the proxy improved Startpage's position in the search industry? * What other measures has Startpage taken to protect my Privacy? * Does Startpage support SSL (HTTPS)? * Where are Startpage's servers located? * How can I learn more about the privacy issues with other search engines? * Why are other search engines not yet following Startpage's lead? * Where can I find more background information on these privacy issues? * What is Startpage's view for the near future when it comes to search engine privacy? Q: Why did Startpage decide to take leap steps in June 2006 and in January 2009? Beyond striving to offer our users the best Web search results possible, we also feel strongly about safeguarding their privacy. With other search engines, millions of law abiding citizens world wide expose themselves to serious invasions of privacy while performing innocuous searches across the internet. We feel the right to privacy is a very important right, worth defending. These were the principles that guided Startpage's decision in June 2006 when we started our privacy initiative. Our determination to offer our users the best possible privacy search engine has only increased ever since. That’s why we are pleased we were able to stop recording IP addresses altogether in January 2009. Q: Had Startpage ever data mined its search data for commercial use before 2006? In its history before June 2006, Startpage had never used IP addresses and Unique ID cookies for anything other than tracking its own statistics and improving our site's performance . Unlike most of our competitors, we are an independent company and unable to combine user data with other services we offer. As such, these records had no commercial value to us. Since June 2006, and especially after January 2009 there is nothing to mine. Q: What is Startpage's policy now with regard to IP addresses and the use of ID cookies? IP addresses: Startpage does not record the IP addresses of our legitimate users. Cookies: Startpage abolished the use of Unique ID cookies as of June 6th, 2006. Startpage only uses one anonymous cookie that is used to remember the search preferences you saved for your next visit. For those who prefer a "cookie-free" operation Startpage offers the URL-generator. Q: Why is it so important not to store IP address or User ID cookie? People can either have a static IP address or a dynamic IP address that changes from day to day. If they have a static IP address, one can reconstruct their search history with just that IP address. If they have a dynamic IP address one can reconstruct their search history for today but not for yesterday. The user's ISP, however, can provide the missing link between the various IP addresses. The Unique user ID can also be used to tie the different IP addresses together. So the IP address is unique to the specific computer or router, but may change from day to day. The User ID is unique for one specific search engine or website. The combination of the both delivers extensive possibilities to track users' behavior, especially for internet conglomerates with multiple services where the users information can be combined. Tracking within a site is typically done with the aim of producing usage statistics, while tracking across sites with so-called third party cookies, is typically done by advertising companies to produce anonymous user profiles. These profiles are then used to target advertising (deciding which advertising image to show) based on the user's profile. But advertising companies are just one of many groups that may take an interest in user profiles. Startpage deletes both the IP address and the User ID cookie. Startpage does not record IP addresses or use Unique ID cookies. Q: It is great Startpage does not store my IP address, but what about any third parties? Startpage does not share your personal information with any third party including other search engines and the provider of its sponsored results. Q: How does Startpage make money if it doesn't store or sell my personal data? Startpage shows a limited amount of relevant sponsored results on the top and the bottom of the results page. Each time these sponsored results are clicked upon Startpage receives a minimal fee from the advertiser. Q: I am getting personalized or localized ads while I am using Startpage.com. How is this possible? Whenever you search with Startpage, your SEARCH is not recorded, your IP ADDRESS is not recorded, your IDENTITY is not recorded, no TRACKING COOKIES are placed on your browser, and our SSL ENCRYPTION ensures that your ISP or hackers can't eavesdrop. You are never seen by any of the search engines we query, including Google, even though you receive authentic Google results through Startpage. That protection applies 100% to your SEARCHES. However, when you CLICK on a search result, whether you got it from us, Bing, Yahoo, or any other search engine, you LEAVE the search engine that gave you the link and go SOMEWHERE ELSE. Wherever you go, once you leave Startpage, you can be seen, recorded, and tracked by the website you are going to, plus by all of its advertising and marketing and tracking partners and affiliates. To avoid this, you can use the Startpage Proxy which allows you to visit third-party websites THROUGH STARTPAGE without anyone, including the website and its partners, seeing you. To learn more about the Startpage proxy and how it works, please watch our short instructional video here: Q: How can I be sure Startpage fulfills its promises? Our Privacy Policy is routinely being confirmed by two independent organizations, Europrise and Certified Secure. For more information please click on the respective certifying organization. Q: What are "cookies" and does Startpage use any? A cookie is a small piece of data that is sent and saved to your computers' hard drive when visiting a site. Startpage uses only one cookie called "preferences". This cookie is to remember the search preferences you saved for your next visit. It expires after not visiting Startpage for 90 days and is anonymous. Q: How can Google install a Google cookie in my browser when I never use Google? This has nothing to do with Startpage. A Google cookie called 'PREF' can be set when you use Firefox or Chrome as your browser, regardless of whether you visit google.com or any other site. There is a technical reason why this happens. More information can be found here. One way to prevent this is to disable or limit the use of cookies. This is something Startpage recommends from a privacy perspective. For Firefox, go to 'Preferences' -> 'Privacy', for Chrome, go to 'Options' -> 'Under the Hood', and disable the cookies. Q: How does Startpage make use of the limited logfiles it does keep? As a privacy search engine we do not log users' IP addresses. Nor do we log the search queries itself. But in order to offer our users the best product possible we do keep data on performance (speed) for maintenance purposes and general statistics like language or category usage. Q: So, Startpage uses Google Web results. Is my privacy still protected? Completely. Startpage works under the same strict privacy policy as Ixquick; we don't store any personal data (like your IP address) and don't pass on any of this data to third parties, including Google. This way you will get Web results from the most popular search engine with the privacy protection from the world's most private search engine Ixquick.com. So while you can continue to get the search results you have grown accustomed to, you don't have to worry about your privacy anymore! Q: What is the recently added "Startpage Proxy" service all about? The "Startpage Proxy" extends the great privacy protections you get from our search engine to cover your browsing activities too. Our proxy lets you browse third-party websites safely and anonymously, without passing on any private, personally identifiable information. It means you can now surf the web as anonymously as you can search with Startpage. Q: How does it work? The proxy allows you to view third-party web pages loaded through Startpage's servers. Details on how it works can be found on the "Startpage Proxy Explained" page. Q: Will the proxy work with Javascript selected off? Yes, the proxy will work fine, although some messages will not appear anymore. Q: How has the proxy improved Startpage's position in the search industry? Startpage leads the search industry on privacy issues, and we are always looking for innovative ways to protect our users. We were the first and only search engine to provide certified anonymous searching and encrypted (SSL) connections, and now we are the only search engine to offer anonymous proxy browsing. Proxy surfing is just one more way we are earning our reputation as "The World's Most Private Search Engine." Q: What other measures has Startpage taken to protect my Privacy? Contrary to other search engines Startpage uses the so-called POST method (instead of the GET method) to keep your search terms out of the logs of webmasters of sites that you reach from our results. Search terms tell a lot about what you are thinking, which is why this is a privacy issue. With the POST method Startpage uses, your search terms are stripped off. This can cause "Web page has expired" messages and prevents from creating shortcuts of results-pages. To create shortcuts you can use the "Bookmark this search" button on the right of the results page. Alternatively you can switch off "Use POST vs GET" completely in the settings. Q: Does Startpage support SSL (HTTPS)? By default the Startpage servers have been configured to work with HTTPS. They convert any regular HTTP request to an HTTPS request because it works over secure and encrypted Secure Socket Layer (SSL) connections and thus better protects the privacy of our users. SSL is an encryption protocol that is available in almost all browsers. It establishes a secure connection between your browser and Startpage's servers. Startpage recommends using SSL to hide your search terms from anyone who might be monitoring traffic between your browser and Startpage's servers. (The only drawback of using SSL is a slightly longer processing time.) If you prefer to use HTTP instead, you can change this in Settings by disabling SSL. Q: Where are Startpage's servers located? Startpage has server clusters in the Netherlands and the United States. Startpage typically routes European searches to the European servers, American searches to the U.S. servers, and searches from other countries to the closest location. On the rare occasion that there is a problem in one facility, searches are briefly handled by the other facilty. Q: How can I learn more about the privacy issues with other search engines? Search engines are frequently silent on their efforts to use and combine data. Their privacy policies may provide some guidance as to their intentions. So the best to do is look for the privacy policies. Startpage's privacy policy is crystal clear, and can be found here. Q: Why are other search engines not yet following Startpage's lead? After the AOL story some search engines quickly commented they will not give up recording the privacy data of its users. Startpage's competitors are generally very large and often publicly owned search engines.Such a large share of these company's valuations is based on their ability to mine data from their users, they cannot afford to give the practice up. Commercial pressures to increase effectiveness of advertising and other commercial services, and the profit opportunities that arise by combining data collected across multiple services will ultimately drive these companies to make even greater impositions on your privacy. Even though lately announcements have been made by Yahoo, Google and MSN to lower data retention time, their true intentions can be questioned. The way in which IP addresses are made “anonymous” and the ability to continue to combine search data through the use of ID cookies and logins make these promises far less positive than they seem. Read more here. Q: Where can I find more background information on these privacy issues? The web sites of various privacy organisations are a great starting point for locating an abundance of background information on this subject. Startpage recommends: http://privacyrights.org/ http://www.eff.org/ http://epic.org http://worldprivacyforum.org/ Q: What is Startpage's view for the near future when it comes to search engine privacy? We see an increasing threat to online privacy in general and search engine users' privacy in particular. Ad networks, search engines and government agencies have all stepped up their efforts to exploit private search data. Positive is that consumer awareness is also slowly but surely rising. The resulting political pressure (especially in the EU) may help to force the larger search engines to change their privacy policies for the better. There is only one real solution to this problem: not storing or quickly deleting the data. Only then is data safe from future privacy breaches. Startpage will wholeheartedly continue on its mission to offer you great search results in the best possible privacy! Recent Articles on Startpage/Ixquick: Tracking Cookies are Crummy, says Search Engine Startpage.com Businesswire.com Startpage launches anonymous Web search service Reuters Killer way to slay the Google beast WorldNetDaily Cool Wesites, Software and Internet Tips Makeuseof.com Ixquick offer anonymous web browsing with new Startpage Proxy Geek.com Does Microsoft + Yahoo = A Privacy Arms Race Among Web Giants? NYTimes.com Copernic First to Launch Privacy Desktop PR-USA.NET Search engine promises completely private surfing Vnunet.com Dutch search engine ignores IP addresses Theregister, UK Search engine promises completely private surfing Pcauthority.com.au Ixquick Ceases User Data Storage .MarketingVox.com startpage offers totally private Internet searches Geek.com Audio: A search engine that remembers little about its users RealAudio or MP3 National Public Radio Interview of CEO Startpage Robert Beens RealAudio or MP3 The Dr. Katherine Albrecht Radio Show Other Articles of Interest: Web tracking has become a privacy time bomb USA Today.com A Race to the Bottom: Privacy Ranking of Internet Service Companies Privacy International Debunking Google's log anonymization propaganda CNET News.com What do they know? George C. Dimitriou When companies have the ability to combine data from different resources or services, the privacy consequences become even more staggering: They know all about you. The Guardian Listening to your every move. Techcrunch
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26-06-2012, 04:53 AM
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26-06-2012, 06:35 AM
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26-06-2012, 06:44 AM
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Think of it like this. Its like calling on an anonymous person to do Google search for you- This anonymous person also has memory issues and forgets you ever called him as soon as you hang up. Thats SP in a nutshell. Last edited by bluegrazz; 26-06-2012 at 06:44 AM. |
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26-06-2012, 07:16 AM
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I prefer DuckDuckGo myself.
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26-06-2012, 07:26 AM
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was gonna suggest scroogle
but it's gone and several years gone too 
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26-06-2012, 11:56 AM
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We were using startpage & found out it wasn't as good as http://gibiru.com/
Which we're using now - check it out ppl, its quite good 
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It's pretty amazing when you look at what google has been doing over the last few years, they are spying on people left right & centre, they have breached privacy rules, everything. A lot of people think there CIA assets, no one who is awake enough to be on this board should be using google or anything affiliated to google. Last edited by stevie0013; 26-06-2012 at 12:04 PM. |
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26-06-2012, 11:44 PM
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I have been using this one for a few years now..
dogpile.co.uk 
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27-06-2012, 06:12 AM
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05-07-2012, 02:11 AM
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Despite claiming they are the most private search engine I believe Ixquick.com is linked to google some how and they're trying to hide it. When I search and click on the result it will often link to google and then the site.
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05-07-2012, 02:56 AM
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