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Old 19-06-2012, 05:19 PM   #1
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Default FORCED Christian Conversion and government coup

American Evangelical Christianity is ushering in ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT..
it is, as it has always been, a religion of EMPIRE.

IF you believed revelations of the bible..it talks about the whore and her daughters..the whore is Christianity riding the BEAST power..revived roman empire...United States Government

they are using evangelical christianity to colonize the world..AND CLAIM DOMINION

Many evangelical pastors have ties to death squads sent into south america
(see Antipas and ISRP for a christian perspective on this filthy branch of "christianity")


FOR anyone who is interested
MIKEY WIENSTIEN
FORCED CHRISTIAN CONVERSIONS IN THE US MILITARY:
AMERICAN TALIBAN



http://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/


THE FAMILY
(a cabal of christians running the highest levels of our government)


http://books.google.com/books?id=ioA...family&f=false

Republican Gomorrah
(the hostile takeover of the US government exposed)


http://books.google.com/books?id=Oa-...morrah&f=false


AMERICAN FASCISTs-how evangelical Christianity has destroyed America

http://books.google.com/books?id=jFj...merica&f=false

MYTH OF A CHIRSITIAN NATION
(how the quest for political power has destroyed the church)

http://books.google.com/books?id=dog...nation&f=false


AND AGAIN A CHRISTIAN DOCUMENTING THE TIES BETWEEN THE CIA, MILITARY, BIG BUSINESS AND AMERICAN EVANGELICAL PASTORS.
http://www.antipasministries.com/

http://www.isrp.org/

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Old 19-06-2012, 05:45 PM   #2
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Again, very interesting, yet it is the same Ron Paul fanatics called 'The Hutaree' which are a fundamentalist Christian warrior group where many members have already been imprisoned that are threatening 'an uprising' where they will fight law enforcement agencies that support the governments agenda for Nazi police state and elite global wars.

How does this work then, if you dont mind me asking?

Christian warrior group v Christian extremist group?

Yet the Hutaree who think themselves Christian do not seem to think they are opposing Christians













Which group is not being lead by Christians?
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Bunnies, don't you know that they all secretly worship Lucifer and secretly want a one world Gaia worship religion?
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Bunnies, don't you know that they all secretly worship Lucifer and secretly want a one world Gaia worship religion?
Will you please stop revealing my secrets, i have told you before my one world Gaia worship is a secret
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Will you please stop revealing my secrets, i have told you before my one world Gaia worship is a secret
I'm sorry, but you're not funny.
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Old 19-06-2012, 06:15 PM   #6
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Bunnies, don't you know that they all secretly worship Lucifer and secretly want a one world Gaia worship religion?
LOLOL



Pay no attention to the little man behind the curtain eh?


I forget.is LUCIFER the molten core of the earth or is he odd fellow that used to post here?

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Pay no attention to the little man behind the curtain eh?


I forget.is LUCIFER the molten core of the earth or is he odd fellow that used to post here?
Lucifer, is the god of the Elite. When they meet at the U.N., they decide what they are going to do according to his will, that is why the have the Luciferian One World Religion plan for the world, to bring chaos from "peace" and depopulation under the guise of "protecting the environment".

The recent fascination with Eastern Mysticism and thought has brought along with it also, the Luciferian Enlightenment techniques, which people use to replace god with themselves. This is also part of the plan of the Luciferian U.N., once everyone thinks they are their own god, society will be so devoid of morality that Jesus will have to come back and kill those who were not subservient.

Within the USA itself, these Luciferians meet at the Bohemian Grove to plan their nexts steps to bring the world closer to full on Luciferian Enlightenment. The reason also is they hate Christianity...

...Which brings me to my next point.

All these negative actions that the politicians are doing in the name of the Bible (anti women, anti gay, anti separation of church and state), is really to just give Christianity a bad name, that is why they use the Bible to make laws, to make the Bible look bad and thus turn more people away from it. It's the Elite's new method of trying to deconvert people. The more laws they make in the name of the Bible, the more people will hate it, and the more they will turn away from God.

/sarcasm.

Allow me to clarify, these are all actual arguments from conspiracy theorists or theories themselves. The last paragraph I recently received as a "rebuttal" to the Right's Culture Wars. I wonder, would anyone actually take that irrational mind fucking seriously?
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American Evangelical Christianity is ushering in ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT..
it is, as it has always been, a religion of EMPIRE.

IF you believed revelations of the bible..it talks about the whore and her daughters..the whore is Christianity riding the BEAST power..revived roman empire...United States Government

they are using evangelical christianity to colonize the world..AND CLAIM DOMINION

Many evangelical pastors have ties to death squads sent into south america
(see Antipas and ISRP for a christian perspective on this filthy branch of "christianity")


FOR anyone who is interested
MIKEY WIENSTIEN
FORCED CHRISTIAN CONVERSIONS IN THE US MILITARY:
AMERICAN TALIBAN


http://youtu.be/rIIQIadfHE4

http://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/


THE FAMILY
(a cabal of christians running the highest levels of our government)


http://books.google.com/books?id=ioA...family&f=false

Republican Gomorrah
(the hostile takeover of the US government exposed)


http://books.google.com/books?id=Oa-...morrah&f=false


AMERICAN FASCISTs-how evangelical Christianity has destroyed America

http://books.google.com/books?id=jFj...merica&f=false

MYTH OF A CHIRSITIAN NATION
(how the quest for political power has destroyed the church)

http://books.google.com/books?id=dog...nation&f=false


AND AGAIN A CHRISTIAN DOCUMENTING THE TIES BETWEEN THE CIA, MILITARY, BIG BUSINESS AND AMERICAN EVANGELICAL PASTORS.
http://www.antipasministries.com/

http://www.isrp.org/
Fascinating post.
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Lucifer, is the god of the Elite. When they meet at the U.N., they decide what they are going to do according to his will, that is why the have the Luciferian One World Religion plan for the world, to bring chaos from "peace" and depopulation under the guise of "protecting the environment".

The recent fascination with Eastern Mysticism and thought has brought along with it also, the Luciferian Enlightenment techniques, which people use to replace god with themselves. This is also part of the plan of the Luciferian U.N., once everyone thinks they are their own god, society will be so devoid of morality that Jesus will have to come back and kill those who were not subservient.

Within the USA itself, these Luciferians meet at the Bohemian Grove to plan their nexts steps to bring the world closer to full on Luciferian Enlightenment. The reason also is they hate Christianity...

...Which brings me to my next point.

All these negative actions that the politicians are doing in the name of the Bible (anti women, anti gay, anti separation of church and state), is really to just give Christianity a bad name, that is why they use the Bible to make laws, to make the Bible look bad and thus turn more people away from it. It's the Elite's new method of trying to deconvert people. The more laws they make in the name of the Bible, the more people will hate it, and the more they will turn away from God.

/sarcasm.

Allow me to clarify, these are all actual arguments from conspiracy theorists or theories themselves. The last paragraph I recently received as a "rebuttal" to the Right's Culture Wars. I wonder, would anyone actually take that irrational mind fucking seriously?
Thats a very good point.

Yet on the other hand you yourself believe a conspiracy theory regarding religion which would be of massive proportion, therefor it is actually not so unbelievable, although i am not saying it is something i believe myself, idk
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Lucifer, is the god of the Elite. When they meet at the U.N., they decide what they are going to do according to his will, that is why the have the Luciferian One World Religion plan for the world, to bring chaos from "peace" and depopulation under the guise of "protecting the environment".

The recent fascination with Eastern Mysticism and thought has brought along with it also, the Luciferian Enlightenment techniques, which people use to replace god with themselves. This is also part of the plan of the Luciferian U.N., once everyone thinks they are their own god, society will be so devoid of morality that Jesus will have to come back and kill those who were not subservient.

Within the USA itself, these Luciferians meet at the Bohemian Grove to plan their nexts steps to bring the world closer to full on Luciferian Enlightenment. The reason also is they hate Christianity...

...Which brings me to my next point.

All these negative actions that the politicians are doing in the name of the Bible (anti women, anti gay, anti separation of church and state), is really to just give Christianity a bad name, that is why they use the Bible to make laws, to make the Bible look bad and thus turn more people away from it. It's the Elite's new method of trying to deconvert people. The more laws they make in the name of the Bible, the more people will hate it, and the more they will turn away from God.

/sarcasm.

Allow me to clarify, these are all actual arguments from conspiracy theorists or theories themselves. The last paragraph I recently received as a "rebuttal" to the Right's Culture Wars. I wonder, would anyone actually take that irrational mind fucking seriously?
Pretty twisted

I actually got pulled in my that argument at one point in my life...it was INSANE.

It goes like:
Never mind that they just punched you in the nose, they were doing it to get your attention. IF you weren't a "Satanist" they would not have to punch you in the nose to get your attention..now that they have your attention, they reallyreally really LOVE you ..you deceived witless git, it is not the christians that are insulting you or punching you in the nose...if you could SEE the TRUTH, you would understand that..nblahblahblah
(more sarcasm to add to yours)

When i was little the one thing i found out to be true..
If you are looking at a bird and it waddled like a duck, and it quacked like a duck, and it floated on water like a duck...chances are damn good that you are looking at a duck...not a pair of garden shears.

Christians want to act like "SATAN" wrap themselves in the flag...and point at some hapless muesli munching treehugger yelling: "THERE'S YOUR BABY KILLER RIGHT THERE!!!"


I mean jesus christ on a candlestick already.

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Here is an interesting Q and A with Max Blumenthal:

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Republican Gomorrah–Six Questions for Max Blumenthal

By Scott Horton

Max Blumenthal launched his journalistic career with an award-winning exposé of the deaths of hundreds of young women in the Mexican border city of Juárez. More recently, he has specialized in studying and reporting on the religious right and their relationship with the Republican Party. His newly released best-selling book, Republican Gomorrah, is a thorough study of the figures who populate the religious right and who have developed its powerful influence on Republican politics. I put six questions to Max Blumenthal about his new book.

1. You open your first chapter with a portrait of R.J. Rushdoony, the son of survivors of the Armenian genocide, who devoted his life to a socially conservative vision of Calvinism that sees the United States as a political extension of that religion. What led you to pick a fairly exotic figure like Rushdoony as a starting point for your account, when most students of the religious right in America would put the Southern Baptists at the movement’s heart?

Max Blumenthal

Rushdoony’s tomes advocating the replacement of America’s constitutional democracy with a theocracy based on Leviticus case law–under which disobedient children, witches, adulterers, abortion doctors, and blasphemers would be executed–provided the antecedents of the Christian right with a blueprint for the government it hoped to establish. Rushdoony’s vision of the church supplanting government functions like healthcare and schooling, a system he called Christian Reconstructionism, also influenced the rise of right-wing libertarianism.

Bush faith-based initiatives guru Marvin Olasky referenced Rushdoony in some of his early writings. Olasky was clearly influenced by the libertarian undercurrents of Christian Reconstructionism. Rushdoony’s greatest financial angel was another libertarian: Howard F. Ahmanson Jr., a reclusive far-right businessman and the son of one of Southern California’s most renowned philanthropists. As I report in my book, Rushdoony became Ahmanson’s surrogate father after he inherited $300 million dollars at age 18, then went crazy, spending two years in a mental institution. In return, Ahmanson funded Rushdoony’s think tank as well as initiatives from Intelligent Design to California’s anti-gay Prop 8 that have advanced his dream of American theocracy.

Rushdoony is also important because of his influence on Francis Schaeffer. During the 1960’s, Schaeffer became an icon of the Jesus Freak movement, operating a Christian hippy commune in the Swiss Alps. He counted LSD guru Timothy Leary as a friend, and Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page was sighted with a copy of one of Schaeffer’s books in his back pocket.

After Roe v. Wade, Schaeffer became convinced the government had legalized infanticide. He was radicalized almost overnight and began churning out polemics urging evangelicals to use “force in the defensive posture,” a watchword for domestic terrorism, to stop abortion. While Rushdoony provided the Christian right with its governmental blueprint, Schaeffer offered it the political strategy–organizing against abortion–it required to attack America’s secular underpinnings, including the moderate Republican establishment. It’s important to remember that prior to Schaeffer, right-wing evangelical leaders like Jerry Falwell were fixated on stopping the racial integration of their so-called “private Christian schools.”

2. Newt Gingrich appears to be gearing for a political comeback, and I’d appreciate your thinking about the role of religion in this process. Newt tells us that in his student days he did not practice any religion, but while doing graduate work on the relationship between religion and politics, be started visiting a Baptist Church and became a Baptist. A few months ago, however, he loudly announced his conversion to Catholicism. From what you know about the religious right and its relationship with the G.O.P., how will this affect Newt’s chances?

Unlike Tom DeLay, who is a true believer, Newt appears to have used conservative Christianity for cynical purposes. During the implosion of the Republican Congress, a phenomenon caused largely by the corrupt leadership of DeLay, Newt decided to mount a political comeback. So he prostrated himself before James Dobson, pouring his heart out on Dobson’s radio show in 2007. The confession was a cleverly orchestrated political stunt designed to identify Newt with the culture of personal crisis that animates the movement Dobson commands. Newt’s display of manufactured humility before the man who had led several plots against him when he was Speaker of the House went a long way towards restoring his cachet among the Republican grassroots at a time when leadership was practically absent.

Newt’s conversion to Catholicism was a political calculation that should be viewed in the context of the alliance known as ECT, or Evangelicals and Catholics Together. Francis Schaeffer conceived the idea of conservative Catholics and evangelical Protestants putting aside their doctrinal differences in favor of battling the secular establishment. Jerry Falwell and Catholic intellectuals like Deal Hudson sealed the deal.

The Catholic concept of confession and absolution was attractive to the much-married and very image conscious Gingrich. As Deal Hudson told me, “From a Catholic point of view, Newt’s sins no longer exist—they’ve been absolved. He’s made a fresh start in life. So Newt will continue to sin and confess but there aren’t going to be a lot of Catholics who will hold that against him. They understand why being a Catholic makes a difference.” Gingrich’s emergence as the Catholic candidate in the 2012 GOP primary is not out of the question, though his ability to put together a viable campaign is doubtful.

3. You record repeatedly how religious right figures embrace conservative sexual mores, and how an amazing number of them break these taboos, become enmeshed in scandal—only to ask forgiveness and announce their adherence to the same taboos. A number of these cases involve homosexuality, as is the case with Ted Haggard, the Colorado Springs megachurch pastor who headed the National Association of Evangelicals from 2003-6. You turn to psychologist Erich Fromm for an understanding of this phenomenon. Explain how Fromm helps you assess these cases.

Followers of the Christian right openly admit that they have no capacity to restrain themselves from total depravity without constant, stern commandments from an angry God. As Gov. Mark Sanford, an evangelical minister, declared during his recent press conference confessing an extra-marital affair, the “bottom line of God’s law” is to “protect us from ourselves.” Senator John Ensign, the only Pentectostal serving in the Senate, attributed his own sexual dalliances to having “walked away from God,” or having relied too heavily on his individual will. These figures believe if they don’t do what God supposedly wants them to do they will descend immediately and inevitably into sin and perversion–because that’s what they want to do.

Fromm explained that those who seek to obliterate the self in the drama of an authoritarian crusade have attempted a “neurotic solution” that always leads to self-destructiveness. They use right-wing politics as a form of cheap medication, hoping to cleanse their sullen souls by purging the land of sin. But cheap medication rarely works. Thus none of the recent Republican sex scandals are unique; they are reflective of the sensibility of the movement that took over and shattered the GOP, and which Fromm analyzed so concisely in his 1941 book, Escape From Freedom.

4. On the other hand, James Dobson, whom you portray in some detail, has a doctorate in psychology and practiced as a psychologist for some time before founding Focus on the Family and becoming one of the nation’s most influential evangelicals. How would Fromm account for Dobson, and what does Dobson’s brand of psychology think of Fromm?

As a psychologist, Dobson understands how a culture of personal crisis animates the right’s politics of resentment. Staffers in Focus on the Family’s correspondence department, which handles so much mail it occupies an entire zip code in Colorado Springs, process thousands of calls and letters each day from ordinary Americans beset by crises. Then, after supplying Dobson-approved advice and entering their personal information in a databank, Focus bombards its members with political mailings. Dobson’s top-rated radio show functions in exactly the same way, fusing evangelical-inspired self-help advice with breathless right-wing political appeals.

If Fromm were alive, he would point to Dobson as the modern realization of the “magic helper” who “promises excitement and offers a political structure and symbols which allegedly give meaning and order to an individual’s life.” Fromm would also recognize in Dobson the sadomasochistic tendencies that he says are essential to the authoritarian character–the simultaneous drive to hurt the weak and worship the strong.

Indeed, Dobson’s bestselling childrearing handbook, Dare To Discipline, is little more than a manual for creating sadomasochists. Dobson writes, “A little pain goes a long way for a young child. However the spanking should be of sufficient magnitude to cause the child to cry genuinely. After the emotional ventilation, the child will often want to crumple to the breast of his parent, and he should be welcomed with warm, loving arms.” In the course of three short sentences, Dobson describes a scenario in which a small child is simultaneously assaulted and embraced by a parent, the most significant authority figure in a child’s life and the person he loves the most. It is no surprise that personalities who endured such sadomasochistic abuse as children, from Tom DeLay to Newt Gingrich to the serial killer Ted Bundy, wound up prostrated at Dobson’s feet later in life.

5. Your book shows how the religious right forms part of the bedrock of Karl Rove’s G.O.P. There’s no doubt that it helped bring George W. Bush to power, and that its disaffection with Bob Dole contributed to the failure of the G.O.P. effort to deny Clinton a second term. But in 2008, in the final gaggle of candidates, only Huckabee had strong religious right credentials. Expand on what this means for the G.O.P. in 2012. Is Romney a viable candidate in view of the problems that many evangelicals have supporting a Mormon? Is Huckabee the natural candidate of the religious right going into this contest?

Huckabee positioned himself as the natural candidate of the Christian right, telling movement crowds, “I come from you, not to you.” As a close friend of Dobson, he also understands the central role of personal crisis in movement culture. “Name any problem, any social pathology… and I’ll tell you who’s dealing with them,” Huckabee told a crowd of pastors while campaigning in Iowa in 2007. “It’s the pastors of American who see the tears pouring out every day.” With Christian right favorites Mark Sanford and John Ensign (and possibly Sarah Palin) out of the running because of scandals stemming from their own “social pathology,” Huckabee’s position has been strengthened for 2012.


On the other hand, the Christian right has demonstrated the capacity to support politicians for tactical reasons. If movement leaders can extract assurances about federal judges and social issues from Romney as they did in 2008, and the economy becomes central to the campaign, the Christian right leaders most closely tied to the Republican establishment and its corporate funding sources would be more than willing to overlook Romney’s Mormonism. As I reported in my book, Huckabee repeatedly attacked Romney’s faith during the ‘08 campaign, hoping to distract from questions of his own electability. When the primary begins in ‘12, expect history to repeat itself.

6. Your book winds up with some amazing further disclosures about former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin. What is it about Palin that makes her so attractive for the religious right? Will the recent polls that show her as essentially unelectable dampen that enthusiasm? And in light of the way the religious right works economically, what opportunities exist for Palin outside of elective office?

Sarah Palin is the archetype of the crisis-wracked right-wing woman. She advertises herself as a feminist to people who oppose women’s liberation and favors abstinence education and “family values” moral crusades while her own family resembles a Jerry Springer episode. This seemingly conflicted dynamic is familiar to women among the Republican grassroots. Thus they relate to her on an intimate, emotional level that transcends issues and even ideology.

Consider what is happening in Lubbock, Texas, where gonorrhea rates among young women have exploded to twice the national average despite–or because of–the fact that abstinence education is mandated in public schools. Or consider a recent congressional study of adolescent behavior, Add Health, revealing that white evangelical women lose their virginity on average at age sixteen, younger than any group besides black Protestants. These are the facts on the ground in Palin country.

Bill Kristol’s role in promoting Palin to Beltway Republicans is well known, thanks in large part to your reporting. The role that Dobson played in promoting her to the party grassroots is less known. Dobson had corresponded with Palin long before she was nationally known, congratulating her for not aborting the child he called “that little Down’s Syndrome baby.” When Palin was named by John McCain, whom Dobson despised, Dobson finally delivered McCain the endorsement he had sought, explaining in a radio broadcast why all so-called “values voters” now needed to support a man who had voted against a federal gay marriage ban and in favor of funding stem cell research. The reason was Palin.

Finally, after a string of disastrous interviews with the mainstream press, Palin phoned in to Dobson’s radio show for her last major campaign media spot. Without any scrutiny from the secular media, Palin declared herself a “hardcore pro-lifer” and urged all the “prayer warriors” to flood the polls for her and McCain. Dobson pleaded aloud, directing his prayers heavenward: “We’re rather boldly asking for a miracle with regard to the election this year.”

But only a miracle, or a terribly ineffectual Obama administration, can save the Republican Party from the movement that has taken it over and driven it to destruction.
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2009/09/hbc-90005678
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I know...pretty twisted

Never mind that they just punched you in the nose, they were doing it to get your attention. IF you weren't a "Satanist" they would not have to punch you in the nose to get your attention..now that they have your attention, they reallyreally really LOVE you ..you deceived witless git, it is not the christians that are insulting you or punching you in the nose...if you could SEE the TRUTH, you would understand that..nblahblahblah
(more sarcasm to add to yours)

When i was little the one thing i found out to be true..
If you are looking at a bird and it waddled like a duck, and it quacked like a duck, and it floated on water like a duck...chances are damn good that you are looking at a duck...not a pair of garden shears.

Christians want to act like "SATAN" wrap themselves in the flag...and point at some hapless muesli munching treehugger yelling: "THERE'S YOUR BABY KILLER RIGHT THERE!!!"


I mean jesus christ on a candlestick already.
It's that "hegelian dialect" they accuse us of being brainwashed by with politics. Unfortunately, it applies to what they beleive, not what we see actually going on with these people in charge.
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I notice all the 'goal post shifting' and 'diverting' the subject 'avoiding' the argument.

I will repost my question below












Again, very interesting, yet it is the same Ron Paul fanatics called 'The Hutaree' which are a fundamentalist Christian warrior group where many members have already been imprisoned that are threatening 'an uprising' where they will fight law enforcement agencies that support the governments agenda for Nazi police state and elite global wars.

How does this work then, if you dont mind me asking?

Christian warrior group v Christian extremist group?

Yet the Hutaree who think themselves Christian do not seem to think they are opposing Christians

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It's that "hegelian dialect" they accuse us of being brainwashed by with politics. Unfortunately, it applies to what they beleive, not what we see actually going on with these people in charge.

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4. On the other hand, James Dobson, whom you portray in some detail, has a doctorate in psychology and practiced as a psychologist for some time before founding Focus on the Family and becoming one of the nation’s most influential evangelicals. How would Fromm account for Dobson, and what does Dobson’s brand of psychology think of Fromm?

As a psychologist, Dobson understands how a culture of personal crisis animates the right’s politics of resentment. Staffers in Focus on the Family’s correspondence department, which handles so much mail it occupies an entire zip code in Colorado Springs, process thousands of calls and letters each day from ordinary Americans beset by crises. Then, after supplying Dobson-approved advice and entering their personal information in a databank, Focus bombards its members with political mailings. Dobson’s top-rated radio show functions in exactly the same way, fusing evangelical-inspired self-help advice with breathless right-wing political appeals.

If Fromm were alive, he would point to Dobson as the modern realization of the “magic helper” who “promises excitement and offers a political structure and symbols which allegedly give meaning and order to an individual’s life.” Fromm would also recognize in Dobson the sadomasochistic tendencies that he says are essential to the authoritarian character–the simultaneous drive to hurt the weak and worship the strong.

Indeed, Dobson’s bestselling childrearing handbook, Dare To Discipline, is little more than a manual for creating sadomasochists. Dobson writes, “A little pain goes a long way for a young child. However the spanking should be of sufficient magnitude to cause the child to cry genuinely. After the emotional ventilation, the child will often want to crumple to the breast of his parent, and he should be welcomed with warm, loving arms.” In the course of three short sentences, Dobson describes a scenario in which a small child is simultaneously assaulted and embraced by a parent, the most significant authority figure in a child’s life and the person he loves the most. It is no surprise that personalities who endured such sadomasochistic abuse as children, from Tom DeLay to Newt Gingrich to the serial killer Ted Bundy, wound up prostrated at Dobson’s feet later in life.

the book American Fascists details HOW they use the a culture of constant crisis to garner more lemmin---errrr i mean followers.
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Lucifer, is the god of the Elite. When they meet at the U.N., they decide what they are going to do according to his will, that is why the have the Luciferian One World Religion plan for the world, to bring chaos from "peace" and depopulation under the guise of "protecting the environment".

The recent fascination with Eastern Mysticism and thought has brought along with it also, the Luciferian Enlightenment techniques, which people use to replace god with themselves. This is also part of the plan of the Luciferian U.N., once everyone thinks they are their own god, society will be so devoid of morality that Jesus will have to come back and kill those who were not subservient.

Within the USA itself, these Luciferians meet at the Bohemian Grove to plan their nexts steps to bring the world closer to full on Luciferian Enlightenment. The reason also is they hate Christianity...

...Which brings me to my next point.

All these negative actions that the politicians are doing in the name of the Bible (anti women, anti gay, anti separation of church and state), is really to just give Christianity a bad name, that is why they use the Bible to make laws, to make the Bible look bad and thus turn more people away from it. It's the Elite's new method of trying to deconvert people. The more laws they make in the name of the Bible, the more people will hate it, and the more they will turn away from God.

/sarcasm.

Allow me to clarify, these are all actual arguments from conspiracy theorists or theories themselves. The last paragraph I recently received as a "rebuttal" to the Right's Culture Wars. I wonder, would anyone actually take that irrational mind fucking seriously?
Anyway, you say that the Elite and Government would not set up Christian groups, yet according to the law courts the american government where found guilty of doing just that.

They where found guilty of planting evidence regarding the Hutaree and making allegations about them being Christian terrorists that was found to be untrue and a total fabrication and they where told by the courts, 'you cannot charge people for small crimes then think you can walk into the court and make whatever allegation you like then think the jury will accept it'.

http://www.chrisroubis.com/2012/03/c...taree-militia/
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yeah i know..this in particular caught my interest




the book American Fascists details HOW they use the a culture of constant crisis to garner more lemmin---errrr i mean followers.
YES the "crisis culture" is the way they trap people's minds.

Example:
"normal people" - War on Terror!! Buy guns! wait for Jesus
"Conspiracy theorists" - War on Us! Buy food and guns! wait for Jesus

"normal people" - I have an addiction, (crisis), Jesus will help me through it.
"conspiracy theorists" - Luciferian elite rule the world, Jesus will help us through it.

They prey on people's weaknesses and offer the glorious solution. If the person does not have a weakness, that is where the doctrine of original sin comes in, and lastly, if they are not a church goer, then they have the media. In the case of conspiracy theorists, they have the counter culture which is controlled by the same fuckers anyways.
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Now in this link it is actually stated that the Hutaree being an extremist organisation was a federal invention, and even David Icke apparently spoke out about it saying 'this is not a childish game'.

So i dont see how governments are not setting up christian groups when they are even being accused by judges

http://infowarsnightlynews.net/2012_...dish_game.html
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Old 19-06-2012, 07:33 PM   #20
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American Evangelical Christianity is ushering in ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT..

My 'ISM' better than your 'ISM'.

You don't see a lot of this from the Christians here do you?

They don't make endless threads attacking you and your beliefs do they?

They just get on with their lives and tackle other subjects.

Whatever you people represent, it is not love or harmony, it is intolerance, arrogance and ignorance.




You're really barking up the wrong tree.

These people who use the tag Christians yet commit horrors in its name are not Christians.


They are far more likely to be people with beliefs more in common with yours I expect.



It's like people who say Bush is a Christian or Hitler was a Christian.



It's almost got to the point with me that's it's hardly worth arguing it anymore.


It has all been said before and if you really wanted the truth you would be able to find it.


So yeah, Christian church has been totally hijacked and corrupted.

But you're making a serious mistake to imagine that Christianity is the root cause of this. The church has been used that's all, by the same occult satan worshipers who really hold the reins of power.


Why don't you research that stuff and discover the secret pagan elites and the old Gods they worship in secret?

Is it because it is a bit too close to home and would force you to question your own religious beliefs?
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