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[rumpelstilzchen]

Originally Posted by h2pogo

What do you need it for?

Who mentioned needing it? Not me.
Give me everything you own.

[h2pogo]

Originally Posted by rumpelstilzchen

Who mentioned needing it? Not me.
Give me everything you own.

Why would i even consider giving you some thing if you dont even know why you need it?
Do you even know what it is i might own that you want?

[rumpelstilzchen]

Originally Posted by h2pogo

Why would i even consider giving you some thing if you dont even know why you need it?
Do you even know what it is i might own that you want?

Because everything you own is a stolen item. You said so yourself. I don't care what they are, I want to liberate them. Why are you proving to be so reluctant? Anybody would think you want to hold on to those stolen items.
Give them to me.

[rumpelstilzchen]

Originally Posted by aulus agerius

In real world we call this "morality". Stealing is wrong.

And here we witness how the thief can justify their actions. They don't call it stealing an item they call it it "liberating" an item. When it suits they have no qualms about causing loss to another. It's pure selfishness.

[bobster]

Originally Posted by rumpelstilzchen

The $600 fee is to attend a meeting where:

You'd be better off using that $600 to lighten the debt instead of giving it to some con artist and being $600 lighter

[h2pogo]

Originally Posted by rumpelstilzchen

Because everything you own is a stolen item. You said so yourself. I don't care what they are, I want to liberate them. Why are you proving to be so reluctant? Anybody would think you want to hold on to those stolen items.
Give them to me.

I could of worded it better..
Everthing that is been traded is stolen by deception using fraudulent money..Grocers are just pawns in a huge criminal stealing ring..
What i own wasnt nessacarily aquired that way.

[rumpelstilzchen]

Originally Posted by h2pogo

I could of worded it better..

You said "all goods are stolen property." Therefore any goods you own are stolen and I want to liberate them. But still you want to keep those stolen goods.

Everthing that is been traded is stolen by deception using fraudulent money..

In that case if you used money to buy goods you too have stolen those goods. When can I liberate them?

Grocers are just pawns in a huge criminal stealing ring..

Yeah that Grocer Conspiracy is big at the moment

What i own wasnt nessacarily aquired that way.

How did you acquire everything you own if you didn't steal it using fraudulent money?
BTW I still want to liberate everything you have. I don't need it, I don't care what it is, I just want to liberate those stolen goods. Why are you resisting? Would you rather keep them?

[h2pogo]

your still not getting it are you rumps

I will give you some orgonite if you want..It might help

[iq_145]

Originally Posted by lesactive

Aggression gets you nowhere but does increase resistance. Lesson learned?

Vic and two others went to a local grocer, chose their food items, walked up to the checkout and told them that they had no money to pay but intended to walk out with the groceries. The grocer objected, obviously, and the police were called. They waited outside the store for 45 minutes for the police to show up to arrest them. They were in the cells for about 3 hours having a grand time of it before they were released, even though they wanted to stay as there were others there who were interested in what they were doing.

When the day for court came a brief affidavit was tendered to the crown and the crown dropped the charges even though they said they would be doing it (taking food) again. It seems the crown wasn't interested in pursuing the case for whatever reason.

The (near static) video of the 'theft' is under "Claiming our inheritance with action" on youtube.

I can't believe that you are promoting such behaviour.

The shopkeeper will obviously ban them from his or her shop, with the ultimate, logical objective of these FOTLites being the imprisonment of the thieves, or else local anarchy. In the case of the latter, decent people will be deprived of safely buying their groceries and of walking on the streets.

This is an outrageously stupid promotion by you, lesactive. There is nothing 'unjust' about buying provisions at a grocery store. If you have a problem with a particular product or producer, then don't buy that product. If enough people share your principled stance then the producer would have to change the 'unfair' practice being criticized. There are usually plenty of products to choose from.

[rumpelstilzchen]

Originally Posted by h2pogo

your still not getting it are you rumps

Oh I'm getting it alright. I'm getting your hypocrisy.

I will give you some orgonite if you want..It might help

Wrong answer.
I want everything you own.
No ifs no buts.
Or is it a different matter when it is you that owns the goods?

[aulus agerius]

Originally Posted by h2pogo

I could of worded it better..
Everthing that is been traded is stolen by deception using fraudulent money..Grocers are just pawns in a huge criminal stealing ring..
What i own wasnt nessacarily aquired that way.

This isn't really an improvement. Your justification for theft now is that the grocer used deception to obtain goods in the first place. However this is wrong (because neither the grocer nor the supplier believe the money is valueless, they the bargain they were making and neither had any intention to deceive the other).

By your logic, buying goods in the normal way is theft, but taking them without paying at all isn't.

[h2pogo]

The whole western fiat monatary system is based on fraud deception and theft.

Any one partaking in buying food is complicit in keeping the ponzi scheme alive.

[bluegrazz]

Originally Posted by h2pogo

The whole western fiat monatary system is based on fraud deception and theft.

Any one partaking in buying food is complicit in keeping the ponzi scheme alive.

My Cousin owns a small Grocery Store and you need to understand he pays his suppliers and then sells goods at a small markup-

You people are theives and Conmen. Freeloaders on the land.

Isnt charging $600 "supporting the ponzi scheme?"

Why didnt the organizers of this event use their magical credit write off scheme to fund the entire event at a REAL venue?

[rumpelstilzchen]

Originally Posted by h2pogo

The whole western fiat monatary system is based on fraud deception and theft.

And yet the fotl want to keep as much of that fraudulent fiat money as is possible. One thing they don't want to do is part with it.

Any one partaking in buying food is complicit in keeping the ponzi scheme alive.

No one is forcing you to buy food. Grow your own. Find your own alternative. But no, you would rather justify stealing off the working man. The lazy man's way.

[rumpelstilzchen]

Originally Posted by aulus agerius

By your logic, buying goods in the normal way is theft, but taking them without paying at all isn't.

That's freeman logic for you. Anything that involves paying is fraudulent but stealing is OK. Obviously the "cause no loss" is right out of the window now.

[h2pogo]

Originally Posted by bluegrazz

My Cousin owns a small Grocery Store and you need to understand he pays his suppliers and then sells goods at a small markup-

You people are theives and Conmen. Freeloaders on the land.

Isnt charging $600 "supporting the ponzi scheme?"

Why didnt the organizers of this event use their magical credit write off scheme to fund the entire event at a REAL venue?

That is truly amazing..Here in europe all grocerie stores are corporate franchises..and there was me thinking it was a sikness we caught from across the pond.

Its traditionally been free men who give grocery store owners a reason to be..Before the corporate occupation of course

And yes using fiat money in anyway unless its to buy drugs or sex is keeping the ponzi scheme going..

I dont have any idea what event you are on about BTW..I am sure if you just turn up with goodness in your heart you will be ok..

[bluegrazz]

Originally Posted by h2pogo

That is truly amazing..Here in europe all grocerie stores are corporate franchises..and there was me thinking it was a sikness we caught from across the pond.

Its traditionally been free men who give grocery store owners a reason to be..Before the corporate occupation of course

And yes using fiat money in anyway unless its to buy drugs or sex is keeping the ponzi scheme going..

I dont have any idea what event you are on about BTW..I am sure if you just turn up with goodness in your heart you will be ok..

In the States we still have "general stores" in rural areas where you can buy Groceries (Fruits and Vegetables come directly from local Farms if possible) and they are individually owned.

This isnt like a "walmart" its like a 711 (if you have those) but carries actual groceries since its in the rural areas... I know my cousin makes very little from Groceries and if someone walked in and took his stuff he would still have to pay for it.

But even at a store like Walmart, they would write theft off as "Shrink" and eventually get a tax write off for the theft which hurts us all.

EDIT: I also thought you were one of the people charging the $600 which is why I bothered to mention the hypocritical thinking- Please disregard that part since it has nothing to do with you.

[rumpelstilzchen]

Originally Posted by h2pogo

Here in europe all grocerie stores are corporate franchises..

In England they aren't.

Its traditionally been free men who give grocery store owners a reason to be..Before the corporate occupation of course

No it hasn't.
Show me evidence that "free men" are the reason that grocery store owners exist.

And yes using fiat money in anyway unless its to buy drugs or sex is keeping the ponzi scheme going..

Now that is funny. You object to companies buying goods and selling on at a profit but consider a drug dealer and his huge mark ups fine. Not to forget the violence that drug dealers are willing to resort to in order to ensure their business flourishes. That has made my day.

I dont have any idea what event you are on about BTW..I am sure if you just turn up with goodness in your heart you will be ok..

No.
Strictly payment in advance.
They will teach you how to cancel all debts apart from your debt to them.

[h2pogo]

Originally Posted by bluegrazz

In the States we still have "general stores" in rural areas where you can buy Groceries (Fruits and Vegetables come directly from local Farms if possible) and they are individually owned.

This isnt like a "walmart" its like a 711 (if you have those) but carries actual groceries since its in the rural areas... I know my cousin makes very little from Groceries and if someone walked in and took his stuff he would still have to pay for it.

But even at a store like Walmart, they would write theft off as "Shrink" and eventually get a tax write off for the theft which hurts us all.

EDIT: I also thought you were one of the people charging the $600 which is why I bothered to mention the hypocritical thinking- Please disregard that part since it has nothing to do with you.

It is rare but the vast majority of foodstores in europe now are franchised though there are exeptions..

You all right though..Stealing is wrong and its always the worker that will suffer.
But i do think chalenging what money is and howits used and what efect it has on the world is worthy of a few corporate losses..even if they are passed onto taxpayer...its not like they are not any way..

[h2pogo]

Originally Posted by rumpelstilzchen

In England they aren't.



No it hasn't.
Show me evidence that "free men" are the reason that grocery store owners exist.


Now that is funny. You object to companies buying goods and selling on at a profit but consider a drug dealer and his huge mark ups fine. Not to forget the violence that drug dealers are willing to resort to in order to ensure their business flourishes. That has made my day.

No.
Strictly payment in advance.
They will teach you how to cancel all debts apart from your debt to them.

there are co-ops in england that are much better ethiky..and of corse a few diehard exeptions to the rule..Good luck finding one though.

I dont know what other customer they could serve
Were slaves allowed to go shopping?
Wierd how things change hey.

Glad the joke about the drugs made you laugh..Your right about the violence too when you think about columbia and afghanistan.

They might accept for value your signature as payment in advance.