Tidy your Garden or risk losing your home

diamond dogs · 04-03-2008, 06:36 PM

People living in council homes in Norwich are being warned they will lose their homes if they don't keep their gardens tidy.

Andrew Smith from Half Mile Road in Mile Cross is being evicted after rubbish was piled up outside his house. Items left in the garden include a sofa, armchair, sink and bath, as well as a caravan.

Norwich City Council says they provided a free skip in the area as part of a major clear up and say they repeatedly wrote to the 36 year old warning him, he would be evicted if he did not clear up his house, but the council claims the rubbish continued to pile up over a year.

One the 27th of February Norwich Magistrates granted the City Council a possession order for Mr Smith's home which means he has 28 days to leave the property.

Councillor Julie Westmacott said: "As a council we have worked hard with our tenants through a number of big clear-up operations to make sure our communities are clean, tidy places we can be proud of.

"We will always try and work with tenants, but where people refuse to abide by their tenancy agreements and are affecting their neighbours through their actions, we have to take a tough stance. Everyone has the right to live in a clean, tidy, safe neighbourhood.

"This case sends out a clear signal to tenants - keep your property in a good condition or risk losing it."

Mr Smith says he has now moved into the flat upstairs with his girlfriend and claims some of the rubbish dumped in the garden was not his. He said: "The place isn't worth living in anyway and i have a bad back, that's why i can't do the garden."

http://www.radiobroadland.co.uk/Arti...078&spid=13087

diamond dogs · 04-03-2008, 06:56 PM

If that doesn't do the job then prob this one will!
(Gasnotice.jpg) attached to a door whose elderly occupant was in hospital (according to the next door neighbour).

message reads

I called today in connection with the recent letter about entering your home to carry out a safety ceck to your gas servces and appliances. As you have not been in contact since the letter was delivered to your home, we will call on (07/02/08) to carry out checks and assume that to this arrangement is satisfactory. I would remind you that given the importance of gas safety, if no one is present to allow access on the date specified legal action may be taken to repossess your home.

grenadene · 04-03-2008, 07:27 PM

I'd better nip out and make sure my bins are lined up neatly ...

Seriously though, there are estates near me where all the alleyways are full of junk. I'm pretty sure most of the properties of privately rented, with the landlords raking in all housing benefit for renting out flea pits!!

them · 04-03-2008, 07:40 PM

If somebody wants their garden return to nature by allowing it get overgrown, fair enough.. Letting your garden pile up with junk is another thing all together.

Don't you think?

beldazar · 04-03-2008, 07:54 PM

Yes I agree them, so many people leave rubbish around and dump it wherever they like! Perhaps schools should remove their history subject since it seems to be full with blatant lies and replace it with keeping the earth clean!!!!! (As if!) Although Im getting a bit fed up with big bro telling us what to do! I wouldnt want to live near a garden full of rubbish, it kind of spoils the view slightly! Wouldnt it have been really nice if the neighbours got together with the man who had rubbish in his garden and they all cleared it up together? Am I living in a dreamworld here?

citroen999 · 04-03-2008, 08:05 PM

rather than ordering him to clear up why didnt they use the money spent on bailiffs to pay someone a days work to clear it all

you will do as we say or lose your home, since when as that been the law?

diamond dogs · 04-03-2008, 09:26 PM

I have to agree citroen and if you take a look at the pic .it is not that bad and the guy states that most of the rubbish was caused by the council when they renovated i.e bath and rubble.

If this is the norm then when NWO takes effect (as we are drip fed on a daily basis) then the penalties will be for lessser and lesser 'offences'. We know what the problems are and this is not the solution......

gremlin · 04-03-2008, 11:06 PM

so if the person doesn't comply what happens? get turfed on the street?

then the council have to house them, vicious circle.

raffles · 05-03-2008, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by gremlin

so if the person doesn't comply what happens? get turfed on the street?

then the council have to house them, vicious circle.

Yeap, Another pointless idea by local councils.

mynameis · 05-03-2008, 01:48 AM

I would say, "You get free shell casings with my home."

armoured_amazon · 05-03-2008, 09:21 AM

If people don't take care of their immediate surroundings, how do we expect them to take care of one another?

paganus · 05-03-2008, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by armoured_amazon

If people don't take care of their immediate surroundings, how do we expect them to take care of one another?

agreed! love for the most helpless is how we should judge morality.animals need a cared for enviroment.

icke_is_right · 05-03-2008, 10:18 AM

It would be interesting what the legal definition of rubbish is. Just because something is unsightly doesn't make it rubbish.

Do really rich people leave abandoned sofas in their driveways? If not, why? I often think that the hanging on to things is a sign of a mental projection about one's future.

G

angelicangel · 05-03-2008, 11:00 AM

It is all well and good for the Council's to make the tenants get rid of unsightly rubbish, fridges and the like, but if you ask them to remove them, it costs a fortune for them to collect it. If you don't have the right vehical to remove the things from your garden and you can not afford to have it collected what do you do then?

grover66 · 05-03-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by armoured_amazon

If people don't take care of their immediate surroundings, how do we expect them to take care of one another?

I don't get it? Only clean, neat and tidy people can be nurturing and caring to their family and friends? Messy people can't be loving and considerate toward others?

armoured_amazon · 05-03-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by grover66

I don't get it? Only clean, neat and tidy people can be nurturing and caring to their family and friends? Messy people can't be loving and considerate toward others?

And I can't make you get it.

grover66 · 05-03-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by armoured_amazon

And I can't make you get it.

Well, with all due respect, how do you know that? You haven't tried to!

I'm just trying to understand how only people who can keep their surroundings (i.e. house, garden) clean and tidy are able to "take care of one another". Sometimes I have dishes in the sink and I don't do the vacuuming as often as I should, but I love my family and take care of them.

paganus · 05-03-2008, 02:31 PM

a friend of mine,when he moved into a new house put the old sofa on the drive.later that night there was a knock on the door.two Vietnamese gentlemen wanted to know if they could have it.he was pleased it would save him getting rid of it so agreed.about an hour later he heard a noise outside,and looked out just in time to see the same two guys depositing their old sofa in its place!

armoured_amazon · 05-03-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by paganus

a friend of mine,when he moved into a new house put the old sofa on the drive.later that night there was a knock on the door.two Vietnamese gentlemen wanted to know if they could have it.he was pleased it would save him getting rid of it so agreed.about an hour later he heard a noise outside,and looked out just in time to see the same two guys depositing their old sofa in its place!

LOL

peachped · 05-03-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by paganus

a friend of mine,when he moved into a new house put the old sofa on the drive.later that night there was a knock on the door.two Vietnamese gentlemen wanted to know if they could have it.he was pleased it would save him getting rid of it so agreed.about an hour later he heard a noise outside,and looked out just in time to see the same two guys depositing their old sofa in its place!

Once put out a chair we didn't want in the front yard, it was there for three days. I put a £5 notice on it and it was gone an hour later.

04-03-2008, 06:36 PM	#1
diamond dogs Premier Subscribers Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,842	Tidy your Garden or risk losing your home People living in council homes in Norwich are being warned they will lose their homes if they don't keep their gardens tidy. Andrew Smith from Half Mile Road in Mile Cross is being evicted after rubbish was piled up outside his house. Items left in the garden include a sofa, armchair, sink and bath, as well as a caravan. Norwich City Council says they provided a free skip in the area as part of a major clear up and say they repeatedly wrote to the 36 year old warning him, he would be evicted if he did not clear up his house, but the council claims the rubbish continued to pile up over a year. One the 27th of February Norwich Magistrates granted the City Council a possession order for Mr Smith's home which means he has 28 days to leave the property. Councillor Julie Westmacott said: "As a council we have worked hard with our tenants through a number of big clear-up operations to make sure our communities are clean, tidy places we can be proud of. "We will always try and work with tenants, but where people refuse to abide by their tenancy agreements and are affecting their neighbours through their actions, we have to take a tough stance. Everyone has the right to live in a clean, tidy, safe neighbourhood. "This case sends out a clear signal to tenants - keep your property in a good condition or risk losing it." Mr Smith says he has now moved into the flat upstairs with his girlfriend and claims some of the rubbish dumped in the garden was not his. He said: "The place isn't worth living in anyway and i have a bad back, that's why i can't do the garden." http://www.radiobroadland.co.uk/Arti...078&spid=13087

04-03-2008, 07:40 PM	#4
them Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: rural Posts: 2,783	If somebody wants their garden return to nature by allowing it get overgrown, fair enough.. Letting your garden pile up with junk is another thing all together. Don't you think? __________________ *All in the game yo, all in the game. Omar Little*

04-03-2008, 08:05 PM	#6
citroen999 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,221	rather than ordering him to clear up why didnt they use the money spent on bailiffs to pay someone a days work to clear it all you will do as we say or lose your home, since when as that been the law? __________________ I refuse to tiptoe quietly through life to safely arrive at death!! There are 2 sides to every story and then there's the truth!! If i left you alone in the woods with only a hatchet how long before you could send me an email?

04-03-2008, 11:06 PM	#8
gremlin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 13,027	so if the person doesn't comply what happens? get turfed on the street? then the council have to house them, vicious circle. __________________ The Illuminati, The Rothschilds, and The League of Just Men invented and spawned Communism. kharzia terrorists freely entering the Western world! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAWFVcbzMm8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwHks...ature=youtu.be

05-03-2008, 01:48 AM	#10
mynameis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6,553	I would say, "You get free shell casings with my home." __________________ I can no longer have fair and intelligent conversation with people here, without them resorting to the use of personal attacks. I have been targeted as a scapegoat for my defensive actions. I cannot discuss new topics and stop the rampant amounts of misinformation when it happens, where it applies. If it can happen to me it can happen to you.

04-03-2008, 06:56 PM	#2
diamond dogs Premier Subscribers Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,842	If that doesn't do the job then prob this one will! (Gasnotice.jpg) attached to a door whose elderly occupant was in hospital (according to the next door neighbour). message reads I called today in connection with the recent letter about entering your home to carry out a safety ceck to your gas servces and appliances. As you have not been in contact since the letter was delivered to your home, we will call on (07/02/08) to carry out checks and assume that to this arrangement is satisfactory. I would remind you that given the importance of gas safety, if no one is present to allow access on the date specified legal action may be taken to repossess your home.

04-03-2008, 07:27 PM	#3
grenadene Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Lincolnshire Posts: 3,228	I'd better nip out and make sure my bins are lined up neatly ... Seriously though, there are estates near me where all the alleyways are full of junk. I'm pretty sure most of the properties of privately rented, with the landlords raking in all housing benefit for renting out flea pits!!

04-03-2008, 07:54 PM	#5
beldazar Premier Subscribers Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cornwall UK Posts: 19,355	Yes I agree them, so many people leave rubbish around and dump it wherever they like! Perhaps schools should remove their history subject since it seems to be full with blatant lies and replace it with keeping the earth clean!!!!! (As if!) Although Im getting a bit fed up with big bro telling us what to do! I wouldnt want to live near a garden full of rubbish, it kind of spoils the view slightly! Wouldnt it have been really nice if the neighbours got together with the man who had rubbish in his garden and they all cleared it up together? Am I living in a dreamworld here?

04-03-2008, 09:26 PM	#7
diamond dogs Premier Subscribers Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,842	I have to agree citroen and if you take a look at the pic .it is not that bad and the guy states that most of the rubbish was caused by the council when they renovated i.e bath and rubble. If this is the norm then when NWO takes effect (as we are drip fed on a daily basis) then the penalties will be for lessser and lesser 'offences'. We know what the problems are and this is not the solution......

05-03-2008, 09:21 AM	#11
armoured_amazon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Not the Untied Kondom, yay! Posts: 20,624	If people don't take care of their immediate surroundings, how do we expect them to take care of one another? __________________ "Truly, I say to you, if you have faith like a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move, and nothing will be impossible for you.”

05-03-2008, 10:18 AM	#13
icke_is_right Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,463	It would be interesting what the legal definition of rubbish is. Just because something is unsightly doesn't make it rubbish. Do really rich people leave abandoned sofas in their driveways? If not, why? I often think that the hanging on to things is a sign of a mental projection about one's future. G __________________ Gold $742 Silver $9.52 (at start of G/S thread Nov08') http://goldsilver.com/newsletters/newsID/8050/ We Will Win: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbaemWIljeQ Focus on what you want, never give up, it will come.

05-03-2008, 11:00 AM	#14
angelicangel Inactive Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 297	It is all well and good for the Council's to make the tenants get rid of unsightly rubbish, fridges and the like, but if you ask them to remove them, it costs a fortune for them to collect it. If you don't have the right vehical to remove the things from your garden and you can not afford to have it collected what do you do then?

05-03-2008, 02:31 PM	#18
paganus Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,470	a friend of mine,when he moved into a new house put the old sofa on the drive.later that night there was a knock on the door.two Vietnamese gentlemen wanted to know if they could have it.he was pleased it would save him getting rid of it so agreed.about an hour later he heard a noise outside,and looked out just in time to see the same two guys depositing their old sofa in its place!