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Old 08-06-2012, 08:20 PM   #1
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Default Ron Paul Concedes, Rand Paul endorses Mittens.

So, I'm sure some of you are not suprised. Some of you might be.
I'm curious to know what your opinion is.
Ron Paul isn't going to use all the delegates he has racked up. Rand is endorsing Willard «Mittens» Romney.

Do you think it was planned that way all along?
Do you think threats were made and Rand got scared?
Do you think this is an attempt to fracture the momentum of the liberty movement and cause infighting?
Where do you see the liberty movement go from here?
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Old 08-06-2012, 09:10 PM   #2
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yes, it was silly for people to assume ron paul was anti-establishment -- ron is one of THEM, not one of us.
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:10 AM   #3
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-No surprise here other than that it happened this quickly...
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:35 AM   #4
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What the fuck happened to a 3rd party liberty movement?

Are "tptb" trying to get those that are awake to start a civil war? wtf is going on...Are they going to just keep pushing the NWO until those who are "awake" start the war that the elite want so bad?
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:16 AM   #5
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Question reup

every billionaire has satanic alliences

tha job of catoring every sector
tellin yah whut hue want tah hear
evol-ution of political science
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Old 10-06-2012, 02:27 AM   #6
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no, he is playing his part in weakening the opposition to nwo by deceiving them with false promises
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:29 AM   #7
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Face it. Ron Paul just wants Obama and Democrats out of office. He knows he can't win the Republic nomination. He also knows that if he went third party he would hand Obama victory. He is hoping that his voters will now turn to the Republican side and vote for Mitt.

However it is all lost cause anyhow. Obama and his billions in campaign money will buy the election. His apperances on late night talk shows and the View will fool the vast majority of people into voting for him again. TV and Opera worked last time and he knows it. Thats why he and his wife are quest on TV programs so often. They will fudge or manipulate the job numbers near summers end to fool the ones half awake. Pretend to be on the right track economically. For the small percentage that are fully awake they cause no lost sleep for any politican. They just need the majority of dumbies. They have THAT.
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Old 10-06-2012, 02:05 PM   #8
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So, I'm sure some of you are not suprised. Some of you might be.
I'm curious to know what your opinion is.
Ron Paul isn't going to use all the delegates he has racked up. Rand is endorsing Willard «Mittens» Romney.

Do you think it was planned that way all along?
Do you think threats were made and Rand got scared?
Do you think this is an attempt to fracture the momentum of the liberty movement and cause infighting?
Where do you see the liberty movement go from here?
He did it in the last campaign so it is no surprise that he gathered up support from truthers only to refuse at the last fence, leaving them stood there with no-one to support, but it really is time for people to reject politics and regain control of themselves and their own lives. there is no authority outside of self, and that has always been true!
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:22 PM   #9
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Face it. Ron Paul just wants Obama and Democrats out of office. He knows he can't win the Republic nomination. He also knows that if he went third party he would hand Obama victory. He is hoping that his voters will now turn to the Republican side and vote for Mitt.
Are you suggesting that support for Libertarians was always destined to boost the GOP vote?

I am fairly sure that was the Koch initiative from the get go.
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:11 PM   #10
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yes, it was silly for people to assume ron paul was anti-establishment -- ron is one of THEM, not one of us.
His voting record negates that. He is a hard core Constitutionalist, the best medicine for this country. But you need to ask if he could ever make any headway against the two parties (two headed - one party system really) working against him in the Congress and Senate. Really, that is a serious point to ponder.

However! I did wonder about him aside, from masonic handshakes (there are some very good hearted masons)

When I heard of Rand endorsing Mittens, I wondered if Ron Paul either knowingly or not, was set up as a firebrand opposition to the two party offerings, and any third party efforts were absorbed. Now its June with November not that far off.

In other words Ron Paul was just a decoy duck for dumb bunny people to focus on, now they pull the rug out.

Another alternate possibility is I feel Ron Paul could win a popular vote tomorrow hands down, no doubt. But the delegates are bought and paid for, Ron has no chance against the political machine in getting enough delegates and he's finally realized that. He might feel that Mittens can not be any worse than Obummer, or it is just repub party loyalty at work here. If he thinks that, he is naive perhaps.

I think Obummer at this moment is the next president.

There are other scenarios, imo

It has been pointed out by another poster that seldom does a sitting president dump his VP.

But if Mittens took on Condolezza Rice (black and a woman) that would be very formidable, the female/minority vote. Checkmate. Obummer could dump Biden and take on Hillary, Check.

It ain't over till its over in the end. Anything could happen, they could have a false flag, suspend elections with Obummer as controlled Emperor and martial law, phony birth certificate and all.

Obummer is very very obedient. He is a narcissistic psychopath and they have the goods on him to the max, the birth certificate, Larry Sinclair, his weed stoked high school days in Hawaii, Chicago bathhouse days, he is hopelessly controlled, compromised, a good teleprompter reader, I think he is next potus.



And in the end it doesn't matter. Whether we are ruled by the Gambinos or Genovese or Bonannos, we are fucked. Just Hope and Change. Besides, all this was decided last week at Bilderberg

Best if a large meteor is traveling out there toward us right now, that would fix the things that we can't
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:00 AM   #11
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I am so stoked about this.

I knew the failure was going to be bad, but I had no idea it was going to be this bad.

Time for all the Paulites to grow the fuck up. I don't ever, ever, ever want to see another person talking about how we are going to change something by voting. And I'm thinking now I won't.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:04 AM   #13
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He did it in the last campaign so it is no surprise that he gathered up support from truthers only to refuse at the last fence, leaving them stood there with no-one to support, but it really is time for people to reject politics and regain control of themselves and their own lives. there is no authority outside of self, and that has always been true!
Yes. Good.

Time to act like adults instead of little children looking for a digital father figure to save us.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:40 AM   #14
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I remember this happened in the nineties with Ross Perot abruptly dropping out. He was a decoy for people to build hope on, a distraction

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I am so stoked about this.

I knew the failure was going to be bad, but I had no idea it was going to be this bad.

Time for all the Paulites to grow the fuck up. I don't ever, ever, ever want to see another person talking about how we are going to change something by voting. And I'm thinking now I won't.
I am so on board with your thinking. Nothing short of civil war will change the mess we are deeply mired in.
Thay are laughing, chortling at the sheeps stupidity, slapping their sides at us lackies
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:15 AM   #15
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I don't think we can confront the system on its own terms at all. And violence would be its own terms.

I'm for rejecting the entire system completely. Forming autonomous communities that are not bound to the economic system.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:17 AM   #16
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Although I have accepted the reality that politics probably won't be the vehicle used to change the situation, I did like the Ron Paul vehicle for one simple reason.

«Ron Paul has been a gateway to help people look at the information about the tyranical world government.»

I know many people who refused to consider the idea because they thought of it as the imaginary ideas of cooky conspiracy theorists, point simple. Once they looked at what Ron Paul was saying it opened the door for them because here was someone in the mainstream warning about what is coming.

So even though I have been a fan of Ron Paul's message, I don't like when people label Ron Paul fans as being stupid and naïve. At least those people stand for something.

Ron Paul has in my opinion proven to be a useful tool to get people interested in liberty. He is not the final solution to anything, but a gateway. It is up to individuals to change things. But if it takes a so called leader figure to bring people on board, so be it. If it gets more people on humanity's team it's not a loss.

No matter how low the Ron Paul ship sinks, he's not the be all and end all, but the lovers of liberty are still here and will want to keep going in other ways.

I won't let the Ron Paul situation rain on my day.
It's just my opinion.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:29 AM   #17
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But the Obama people "stand for something". Standing for anything is not a good place to stand. We need better thinking involved here.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:48 AM   #18
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I get what you are saying by :the Obama people stand for something and we need a better way of thinking.

But, for the average person who knows nothing of what is down the road, when they do find out about the threat that is looming, they won't go and say: Ok, let's throw it all away...the whole system and start over.

Realistically, they will want to try to bring change through the means they think are at their disposal. When that fails, then they might consider it. Not before trying.

The Ron Paul thing is good for another thing. It exposes the false left right paradigm. It shows that it's the wings on the same bird. Politics are rigged and most would not have seen it otherwise.

I think that the Ron Paul thing had its place to bring people on the side of freedom. The people who are or were behind Ron Paul (the ones who really care about the situation) they know what they want and they won't settle for how things are anymore. They will go on with or without the Pauls.

And when they realize that politics as it is won't change anything, they will stop looking for leaders and will start to want to enact change themselves.

I think everything has a time and place and there was a time and place for Ron Paul. Now it is time to move on with all the millions of people who got on the Ron Paul train. Millions of people who probably would not be concerned with what is going on if not for Ron Paul.

So the Ron Paul politics train failed. No suprise to most of you because you read on the subject. But for those who didn't know, now they do.
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I feel pretty sick about this.
Ron Paul was our last hope.
Now look forward to martial law, WW3 and total Zionist control and enslavement.
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I feel pretty sick about this.
Ron Paul was our last hope.
Now look forward to martial law, WW3 and total Zionist control and enslavement.
That isn't going to happen, bro. Don't flip out. Ron Paul was never a hope for anything. It was fake.
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