killing reptillian, thread....

[snakesnladders]

Originally Posted by reverendjim

personal experience with bullies has shown me that non compliance leads to either aquiesence or confrontation in the end. when some guy wants yiour lunch money and you dont comply he beats you...till you give him the money...or you punch his face in. it works. sometimes you win...sometimes you lose....either way feels better than saying no and losing your luch...

they dont want you to riot becuz then you might beat them.

who the heck wants their slaves to riot and break stuff? no one.

no one wants that.

the 'love everyone' movement of diana, john lennon, michael jackson (heal the world etc) might have worked, except they killed these leaders

[302bluefog]

Originally Posted by snakesnladders

they dont want you to riot becuz then you might beat them.

who the heck wants their slaves to riot and break stuff? no one.

no one wants that.

the 'love everyone' movement of diana, john lennon, michael jackson (heal the world etc) might have worked, except they killed these leaders

Good point...

[snakesnladders]

Originally Posted by les_paul_robot

Even Jesus believed in armed action.

At the moment we couldn't identify them all. However, our time is near when the veil is lifted and it will be plain as day who is reptilian. Can't wait

dont wait around for veils to lift

or ull be too late.

[snakesnladders]

Originally Posted by 302bluefog

But the Herbivores are not killers like that...

Are you going to do all the exterminating yourself?

well apparantly plants have consciousness and sensations of pleasure and pain too and there is science out there saying they have a form of telepathy and know when u're planning to return to your house

so yeah; killing and eating a plant is still murder...

it's the world we live in; you can't escape it. water is probablly conscious too from emoto's work...

you live in the world, sorry to say.

[snakesnladders]

Originally Posted by blackyblue

If everybody on earth dedicated themselves to exterminating just one Carnivore perday 'humanely' then before long 'predators' would be endangered, and 'deer' and 'sheep' could live happy ever after and could prosper.

We would be doing the predators a favour in the long run.

Just think all those souls we are saving from experiencing the same nightmarish fate. No more spiders being brutalised by pussy cats

this sounds crazy to me.

life entails one thing eating another. i dont like it either but it's how it is. even plants have consciousness. even water. you can't draw a line. it is how it is on this plane of existance; probably for a reason, i guess.

[blackyblue]

Originally Posted by snakesnladders

well apparantly plants have consciousness and sensations of pleasure and pain too and there is science out there saying they have a form of telepathy and know when u're planning to return to your house

so yeah; killing and eating a plant is still murder...

it's the world we live in; you can't escape it. water is probablly conscious too from emoto's work...

you live in the world, sorry to say.

But how Scientifically could a plant or any source of vegetation feel pain without having a brain? or anything in the cockpit?

Also see episode 61 of Mythbusters. They did some tests and found that some of the previous tests done by other Scientists where simply not true
http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2006/09/e...aw_primar.html

[dolores1]

Originally Posted by believenothing

That's the exception and not the rule. Like resistance says, there is evidence that Gandhi was a British agent. Just like the Dalai Lama is a CIA agent.

How does good conquer evil when evil is the destroyer? Evil destroys good because good refuses to destroy evil. We are all good and evil, except those who are pure evil. Think of it in terms of balance. Think of it as defense. You have to defend yourself. Non violence is not defense. That's what the establishment wants. That's why they want to take away the guns. That's why they put Gandhi on a pedestal. Non-violent protests are harmless, they can be ignored and it's business as usual. That's their message.

When a man is dead all sorts of evidence can be planted to try kill his good name. The same would happen to DI!

"To tyrants I will give no quarter!"
.

[nocternald]

Originally Posted by resistance

I agree with believenothing, Karma doesn't exist in the sense that people are being led to believe IMO. I don't actually believe there's a god as such or any universal force that takes away 'brownie points' for giving a psychopathic mass murderer justice. Indeed I think quite the opposite is actually true, humanity is being led into it's darkest age because nothing is really being done to offer up any real challenge to their in-humane system.. that's really how 'karma' works, and they know it. So if anything I think the universe or 'gods' would look upon us in a more favourable way, and the world would surely be a better place if the maniacs in power who's crimes against humanity are countless were say chucked over the side of a boat in shark infested waters and left to the mercy of their 'karma god', that's cool with me. After a fair trial ofcoarse. I think most of this Karma stuff is disinfo personally that was spread by gurus who were brought in specially for the purpose of passifying everybody into a wet sponge.. (new age movement) and trust me it's not something that I havn't looked into either! I do believe however if you kill innocent people then your own conscience will eventually lead you to a life of misery.. unless ofcoarse you happen to be a psychopath without one at all.

Ofcoarse voilence is not the answer, but neither is being a delusional passive wet sponge..

Ok, I should have explained myself a little better when I say Karma starts deep.

There is two base emotions for Humans, love and fear.

If any action which can be consciously perceived as fear, the karmatic process starts from their mind or if someone consciously perceives an bad action, that’s where karma starts. It starts that deep! It's one of the key processes which drive the universe The reason people don't believe in Karma is because they expect all criminals to be apprehended, they think about Karma in a idealistic way, not taking everything and everyone into account and not looking at it from the widest awareness possible. The best criminals, the elites know how deep it starts and know how to suppress it.

The fact we know about the elite, the secret societies etc.. is Karma itself, their centuries of lies can't stay hidden forever.

I believe if there was no Karma, we, the masses the people would have no hope.

This is how i see Karma, how Karma is explained today is far too basic and flawed for people to truly understand in this state of awareness where fear is everywhere, they way karma is explained to us today is so open to abuse and exploitation like you say, some fraudsters teach karma as if you can sit around all day and just ignore the worlds evils which happen around you, because you not hurting nobody. If your neighbours along your street are getting robbed at gunpoint consistently every night, sitting around all day ignoring what’s happening around is not ‘good karma’ you is simply being ignorant to the universes warnings, no matter how good of a person you think you are, the gunmen will still rob you.

Also what need to be considered, the mind is not closed off and separate (collective consciousness) if there are others around you who live in fear, depending on how strongly they live in fear, they will most likely drag you into their world of fear! If one of your neighbours is a heavy drug dealer, his fear of being robbed at gunpoint or being murdered in a hostile takeover with a heavy gun battle puts you in danger also, again, no matter how good you think you are.

You can see, I’m not begrudging your for not believing it, I see you point but i feel it's important for everyone to see how deep the karmatic picture is.

It’s always so convenient when karmatic retribution is served.

[dolores1]

I'm not sure the teaching of karma is not a trap! Planting of a false hope.

Especially if there is only now!
.

[blackyblue]

Originally Posted by snakesnladders

this sounds crazy to me.

life entails one thing eating another. i dont like it either but it's how it is. even plants have consciousness. even water. you can't draw a line. it is how it is on this plane of existance; probably for a reason, i guess.

There is evidence that animals feel pain and are living creatures like us.

Although greenery is alive in certain respects, there is actually no evidence to suggest that there are any lights on or anyone at home.

Infact, most evidence would suggest plants are not consciousely aware, and how could they be without a brain?

Also Scientists that do push this subject do not really believe that Plants feel pain, but rather they have ESP and that their pain is felt through us, also equally unproven and unprobable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_p...on_(paranormal)

But from a Scientific point of view, how without a brain is it possible for a consciouseness to recieve the pain signals?

[resistance]

Originally Posted by nocternald

Ok, I should have explained myself a little better when I say Karma starts deep.

There is two base emotions for Humans, love and fear.

If any action which can be consciously perceived as fear, the karmatic process starts from their mind or if someone consciously perceives an bad action, that’s where karma starts. It starts that deep! It's one of the key processes which drive the universe The reason people don't believe in Karma is because they expect all criminals to be apprehended, they think about Karma in a idealistic way, not taking everything and everyone into account and not looking at it from the widest awareness possible. The best criminals, the elites know how deep it starts and know how to suppress it.

The fact we know about the elite, the secret societies etc.. is Karma itself, their centuries of lies can't stay hidden forever.

I believe if there was no Karma, we, the masses the people would have no hope.

This is how i see Karma, how Karma is explained today is far too basic and flawed for people to truly understand in this state of awareness where fear is everywhere, they way karma is explained to us today is so open to abuse and exploitation like you say, some fraudsters teach karma as if you can sit around all day and just ignore the worlds evils which happen around you, because you not hurting nobody. If your neighbours along your street are getting robbed at gunpoint consistently every night, sitting around all day ignoring what’s happening around is not ‘good karma’ you is simply being ignorant to the universes warnings, no matter how good of a person you think you are, the gunmen will still rob you.

Also what need to be considered, the mind is not closed off and separate (collective consciousness) if there are others around you who live in fear, depending on how strongly they live in fear, they will most likely drag you into their world of fear! If one of your neighbours is a heavy drug dealer, his fear of being robbed at gunpoint or being murdered in a hostile takeover with a heavy gun battle puts you in danger also, again, no matter how good you think you are.

You can see, I’m not begrudging your for not believing it, I see you point but i feel it's important for everyone to see how deep the karmatic picture is.

It’s always so convenient when karmatic retribution is served.

There may well be some truth in this, which I'm already aware of. My problem with the whole karma will get them idea is why it's taken thousands of years to catch up with the biggest offenders. My point being do we have to wait another 2,000 years in the hope that karma will eventually 'catch up with them' or do we simply say enough of this bullshit!

[nocternald]

Originally Posted by dolores1

I'm not sure the teaching of karma is not a trap! Planting of a false hope.

Especially if there is only now!
.

Like i said, iI don't think it's explained very well in todays world.

[nocternald]

Originally Posted by resistance

There may well be some truth in this, which I'm already aware of. My problem with the whole karma will get them idea is why it's taken thousands of years to catch up with the biggest offenders. My point being do we have to wait another 2,000 years in the hope that karma will eventually 'catch up with them' or do we simply say enough of this bullshit!

The reason it's being going on for 2000 years is because people have not wanted to take responsibillity because of fear or simply don't have the knowledge to take responsibillity for their situation, which again is karma!

See, i explain it ina way which fits into everything.

[dolores1]

Taking responsibility I don't think is karma, I think it is adult!

[nocternald]

Originally Posted by dolores1

Taking responsibility I don't think is karma, I think it is adult!

shows how childish we have been for 2000 years innit

[resistance]

Originally Posted by nocternald

shows how childish we have been for 2000 years innit

Sorry nocternald you may well know a fair bit about karma, but judging on it's fruits alone and how it's failed miserably to dish out any sort of justice to some of it's worst offenders.. one can only draw on the conclusion that it doesn't bloody work very well! Or maybe it's just a case of hit and miss.. or some people have immunity

[ronisron]

Originally Posted by brucel

i don't believe in a reptillian race masquerading as human manipulating mankind, but obviously others do
since these so-call reptillians are mens arch enemy i say we KILL THEM !!!

whosoever disagree with killing 'em is a reptillian lover...

That is a snake - as - a - map of the original US. Interesting. Just shows who's really in charge.

[nocternald]

Originally Posted by resistance

Sorry nocternald you may well know a fair bit about karma, but judging on it's fruits alone and how it's failed miserably to dish out any sort of justice to some of it's worst offenders.. one can only draw on the conclusion that it doesn't bloody work very well! Or maybe it's just a case of hit and miss.. or some people have immunity

Well that’s leads me to this.

The question you should be asking is does it not work well for your standpoint or for what you believe in and how you feel karma should work or do we take away how it works for just you and look at Karma from a collective awareness perspective and see how it drives the universe that we know.

I think what you need to remove from your mind to understand karma is that Karma is not a factor of good, I think this why you criticize it so much, you feel as if Karma is a principle built from love alone to help good people, No, this is not the case.

Karma! It's no different than a see saw, it's intention is neither good or bad, it's intention is to attain 'balance'! It's simply the platform which balances this universe of duality.

Hope this opens up a topic for you to think on.

I believe quite strongly in this because it applies to absolutely everything.

[sloloris]

All you need to do is open your weak eyes.

[blackyblue]

Originally Posted by nocternald

Well that’s leads me to this.

The question you should be asking is does it not work well for your standpoint or for what you believe in and how you feel karma should work or do we take away how it works for just you and look at Karma from a collective awareness perspective and see how it drives the universe that we know.

I think what you need to remove from your mind to understand karma is that Karma is not a factor of good, I think this why you criticize it so much, you feel as if Karma is a principle built from love alone to help good people, No, this is not the case.

Karma! It's no different than a see saw, it's intention is neither good or bad, it's intention is to attain 'balance'! It's simply the platform which balances this universe of duality.

Hope this opens up a topic for you to think on.

I believe quite strongly in this because it applies to absolutely everything.

Infact, Karma is simply a religious belief and concept originated in shramana before branching out to some other religions, although its mainly a Buddhist concept.

Karma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Karma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Karma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I am not saying this is a good thing nor a bad thing, just that it is just a concept and religious notion with nothing hard factual to back a conclusive argument up with

Karma is however talked about in Christianity: reap what one sows (Galatians 6:7)



As for the mechanics about how Karma works it is only imagination