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Old 30-05-2012, 02:08 PM   #1
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Arrow The Most Perfect Nutrition/Fitness Plan EVER!

Alright, so I think I've developed the PERFECT nutrition and fitness plan for all of you. Follow it 100% and you'll have AWESOME results. (The fitness section requires that both men AND women lift HEAVY, with LOW REPS -- No, ladies .. You will NOT get big and bulky.. You do not have as much testosterone as men, and testosterone is the hormone responsible for the bulkiness of men that are working out and eating a lot. You also will NOT lose breast size from bench pressing or doing pushups. Breasts are composed of fat, NOT muscle - so gaining muscle in your pecs will only add to, rather than take away, if anything.

Hopefully this makes it easy for a lot of you that are really confused about what to do to gain strength, and to live a really healthy lifestyle.

Primal diet :

Here's the primary website for it : http://www.marksdailyapple.com/#axzz1wM1CVSfl

Here's the "Start Here" page from that website that will lead you to everything you need to know : http://www.marksdailyapple.com//welc...#axzz1wM1CVSfl

What you CAN eat : Organic meat, organic eggs, vegetables, fruit, nuts/seeds
What you CAN'T eat : Grains, sugar, processed food, corn, potatoes, fruit juice (it's super concentrated with sugar)

You can ONLY eat whole foods that come from the earth. This is what our bodies are designed to function on -- not man made pastries, pasta, cereals, etc.

Make sure you replace table salt/sea salt with Himalayan salt from http://www.mercola.com/

(I personally recommend sticking to organic chicken and organic eggs - and eliminating all red meat from the diet.. but this is personal choice, you can eat red meat as long as it's organic/grass fed)






EXERCISE :

-Monday-
Bench Press - 5x5
Dead Lift - 5x5
Tricep Dips - As many as you can do / 3 sets

-Tuesday-
High Intensity Interval Training - 10 rounds

-Wednesday-
Squat - 5x5
Overhead Press - 5x5
Pullups - As many as you can do / 3 sets

-Thursday-
[OPTIONAL] Regular jogging for 25-30+ minutes (ONLY do this if you feel like you're completely recovered from the work out the day before)

-Friday-
Squat - 5x5
Overhead Press - 5x5
Bentover Row - 5x5

-Saturday-
OFF / REST DAY

-Sunday-
High Intensity Interval Training - 10 rounds



5x5 Explained : 5x5 means FIVE reps and FIVE sets .. For example, Squat 5x5 means that you'll squat 5 times, take a 2 minute break, squat 5 times, take a 2 minute break - etc etc for 5 times total.

You want to make your first 2 sets "warm up" sets.. Your first set should be 40lbs below the max amount you can do for 5 reps, with your second set being 20lbs below the max amount you can do for 5 reps.. After that, knock out 3 sets of 5 reps each with the maximum amount of weight that you can handle.



High Intensity Interval Training Explained : High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) is explained perfectly in this short article - http://www.laststopfatloss.com/the-b...aining-routine

Basically, you warm up by walking at a higher-than-normal pace for 5 minutes, then do 30 seconds of HARD, INTENSE cardio (running, bicycle machine, or anything else that you can do intense cardio with), then walk/peddle slowly for a minute and a half.. Repeat this cycle 10 times.




REASONS FOR FOLLOWING THE DIET ALONG WITH THE FITNESS SCHEDULE : More energy, stronger bones, muscle gain, less stress/more positivity ("feel-good" endorphin chemicals get released in your brain after a good exercise session), weight loss, achieving and staying at a level of optimum health.

If you have ANY questions, definitely feel free to post here and I'll try to get back to you asap. Also, feel free to send this out to any friends/family that are looking for a great health/fitness plan. Good luck

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Old 30-05-2012, 05:09 PM   #2
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No stretching? Bruce Lee described the 3 core essentials to perfect fitness as being strength, cardio and flexiblity. Include some stretches, especially yogic spine stretches like the cat pose. Good program though I really want to get into weights. I would do a atleast a 20 minute jog every day as well as the HIIT. Jogging is a perfect warm up excersise imo.

Why are potatoes off the list? Theyre great carbs and full of nutrients. Whats your beef with potatoes?
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Old 30-05-2012, 05:23 PM   #3
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The fitness section requires that both men AND women lift HEAVY, with LOW REPS.
I don't believe heavy weight training is the foundation to good health.

Just how strong does the regular person need to be to get them through daily life?.





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What you CAN eat : Organic/grass fed meat.
Meat is meat IMO.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/sear...ed+meat+cancer
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Old 30-05-2012, 10:11 PM   #4
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No stretching? Bruce Lee described the 3 core essentials to perfect fitness as being strength, cardio and flexiblity. Include some stretches, especially yogic spine stretches like the cat pose. Good program though I really want to get into weights. I would do a atleast a 20 minute jog every day as well as the HIIT. Jogging is a perfect warm up excersise imo.

Why are potatoes off the list? Theyre great carbs and full of nutrients. Whats your beef with potatoes?
Hey! Stretching would be great! The thing is, I tried to keep this as simple and straight to the point as possible. This is a basic, fundamental nutrition and fitness plan.. It's expected that people will make their own tweaks to it, like adding stretching into their regimen (which would be very beneficial, but it's not do or die) . For example, I listed what you can, and what you can't eat - but I didn't tell people the exact meals to make.. That part is on them :P

Moderate intensity, long distance cardio burns muscle AND fat - while HIIT builds muscle and burns fat. So jogging everyday wouldn't be ideal in my opinion.

You want to keep the regular jogging to a minimum. Our bodies weren't designed to do long distance running. That's why I only throw it in here as optional for one day a week. With this weight lifting plan, doing HIIT 3 times a week is too much, so a regular low intensity cardio session can help burn some extra calories and help raise endurance levels a bit while not completely taxing your system. I definitely do not suggest it everyday, but like I said, you can modify it how you like and find what works best for YOU!

White potatoes are pure starch. They convert into sugar in your system and spike up your blood sugar levels much higher than other foods. The whole point of this diet is to change from a sugar-burning glucose operating body, to a fat burning body - which is most optimal for man. The further you stay away from high glycemix index foods, like white potatoes, the better. If you want potatoes - eat sweet potatoes.

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Just how strong does the regular person need to be to get them through daily life?.
To get them through daily life? Not strong at all. They simply need to have enough muscle to turn a steering wheel, click a mouse with their index finger, shake another persons hand, etc.

But - for the person that wants to rise ABOVE the standard of just being a "regular person" - well, that's a different story.

Our ancestors would lift huge logs, drag heavy animal carcasses back to camp, carry heavy pales of water, do plenty of sprints to hunt down food, etc. Our bodies are designed to be STRONG. The stronger the better.

Look up Brooks Kubrik. He bench presses something around 400+ pounds, among many other feats of strength. He's not too bulky like the guys you see on magazine covers. He's simply in good shape and he's healthy - and he only goes for STRENGTH gains - not muscle pumping, isolated exercise, bicep-chiseling workouts.

Go for strength - you won't regret it.


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What you CAN eat : Organic/grass fed meat.
Meat is NOT meat. There's a major difference between hormone/antibiotic filled, cancerous animals that America likes to call "meat" - and healthy organic animals.

I don't know why you posted that link about red meat causing cancer. First off, their experiment didn't say if the meat eaters were on a Standard American Diet, or a paleo/primal diet. I will tell you without a doubt in my mind that they were on the Standard American Diet.

Secondly, you'll see that I recommend NOT eating red meat, or any mammals for that matter. ONLY organic chicken and organic eggs. The article clearly states not to eat red meat. It doesn't say chicken.

Hope that helps.
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Excellent.

It's quite simple, really, and it comes down to these 3 basic movements:
Squat, Press, Pull

The important thing is to start light, and progress slowly. Too many people attempt weights that they're not prepared for. They let their egos drive them, and they end up pushing themselves too hard, leading to injury and/or overtraining. When going to the gym, check your ego at the door. Have an attainable goal for the workout (ie squat 225x5). Reach that goal, and get the hell outta there. Come back the next workout, and aim for a higher goal (ie. squat 230x5). You keep progressing slowly like this, within a year, you'll be squatting horses!

This leads to another important issue, which is technique. Make sure you learn proper exercise technique before you even consider adding weight to the bar.

Sprint occasionally, but not so much that it affects your ability to recover between weight training sessions;
hill sprints and sled dragging are best.
Never run long-distances; in fact, don't do anything that is aerobic in nature.
Long walks however, are excellent for recovery purposes, as are foam rollers.

I don't consider stretching very important anymore, unless you're a beginner who NEEDS to increase flexibility and mobility to perform the barbell movements safely and efficiently. I prefer dynamic stretches over static stretches, though static stretches do have their place in a training program.

Another important thing is to get enough rest. 8-9 hours a day is optimal. Try sleeping at the same hour every night, and waking up at the same time every morning; preferably sleeping when the sun sets, and waking up naturally as the sun rises. This may require a lifestyle change, and you may end up having to sacrifice some of your social life. Remember, you do not grow in the gym. You grow outside the gym. The training only provides a stimulus to grow and get stronger. You must allow your body the time and rest it needs to recuperate.

Always keep a training log. I have a training diary that dates back to my first workout, back in 2004. It is preferable that you use a spreadsheet to do this. Log everything: exercise, sets, reps, weight, rest time, mood, etc. It is important to track your progress. Or invest in a journal and bring it with you to the gym with a pen/pencil.

Do not be one of those guys who trains only for muscle. The goal isn't to become a pumped up balloon animal.
This is vanity, and is not a healthy motive.
Train for health and strength, and your physique will follow.
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Our bodies are designed to be STRONG.
It's not a necessity.

All your doing is developing the ability to lift bigger & bigger weights. Next thing to do is a google search & list all the negative aspects of such training.

What if weight lifters don't look after themselves internally?. What if there consuming chemical junk to achieve goals?.


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Meat is NOT meat. There's a major difference between hormone/antibiotic filled, cancerous animals that America likes to call "meat" - and healthy organic animals.
Cancer is known to be related to the body being in a acidic state.

Meat is extremely acidic.

1. Does organic/grass-fed meats remain in a state of acidity regardless?.

2. In terms of digestion time?. Do organic/grass-fed meat digest faster?.

3. Also, If someone has a poor digestive system, could organic/grass-fed meat potentially rot, releasing parasites into the system?.


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Never run long-distances; in fact, don't do anything that is aerobic in nature.
Completely wrong.

Humans have been running for centuries. Kids run. Animals run. The body is designed in a way that lets us run.

Again, there has to be a big push to look after yourselves internally with such things as bones, arteries, organs, connective tissues etc.
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Completely wrong.

Humans have been running for centuries. Kids run. Animals run. The body is designed in a way that lets us run.

Again, there has to be a big push to look after yourselves internally with such things as bones, arteries, organs, connective tissues etc.
The practice of lifting heavy objects carries over to many other aspects of life, especially as you get older, where being strong and healthy are more of a priority.

I agree that running is good. But not 90 minute jogging sessions, fore example. I prefer 5-10 minutes of hard-ass sprinting intervals. I feel this is more natural than jogging for long distances.

Weight training actually helps you run faster! jump higher! and be more explosive and athletic!

The ability to squat 400 lbs for example, requires more than just strong muscles. The central nervous system, bones, ligaments, tendons, and internal organs need to be strong, just to support the weight on your back.

Try squatting your 10RM for 20 reps, and tell me that the internal organs aren't working and getting stronger.

Why not give strength training a try? and see for yourself? we can debate all you want. I have tried many modes of training, including jogging and other aerobic styles of exercise. I always felt like crap doing it, no matter how I tried to make it work.

Anaerobic activities like strength training and sprints make me feel stronger and healthier. Perhaps we have genetic differences that allow us to benefit from one style over the other.

If you have tried weight training before and didn't see the positive effects that many of us are experiencing, perhaps you were doing it wrong.

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Medical men who are opposed to exercises with weights have never investigated them, and are totally ignorant of their value. No living person is so weak as to be unable to exercise in this fashion, all that is necessary being to graduate the weights. Even a weak heart can be strengthened by exercises with weights.

Still, I am aware there are certain people who may entertain a sentimental objection to strength, and who object, in consequence, to run any risk of acquiring a powerful muscular development. All these people are, however, anxious to preserve their own health and to avoid any necessity of incurring expense in the shape of medical attendance and drugs. As already pointed out, health cannot be divorced from strength. The body, in order to be healthy, must be strong.

DR. VON KRAJEWSKI, THE FATHER OF ATHLETICS AND HIS SYSTEM OF LIFE

I have previously stated that doctors, surgeons, and other medical authorities who decry rational, systematic physical exercise--and particularly, exercise with heavy weights--do so simply because they have never properly studied the subjects in question.

They may have taken a prejudice, or rather evolved a prejudice, against the methods which I have ventured to style "The way to live", and having taken up this attitude, have either refused to make a personal test of them, or have not been favored with opportunities for doing so.

For the sake, therefore, of any reader who may have these prejudices, or who may wish to combat them, I now propose to give a short sketch of a very eminent medical man, who, having his attention drawn to physical culture at the age of 41, felt himself impelled to make a thorough and complete study of the subject; and also of the results of his investigation.

...He, one of the leading physicians in St. Petersburg, was attracted to the subjected of physical exercise as a method of securing and preserving health, strength, activity and vigor (both mental and physical). The subject appeared interesting to him, he investigated it, approved--and immediately set to work to organize and systematize it.

...As I have said, he did not commence the practice of this until he was 41 years of age, and yet at 63 he always claimed, and was acknowledged, to look younger, and to be far more active and vigorous than he was at 40.

So satisfied was he of the great benefits from systematic physical exercise, that he spared no pains to extend its practice. His enthusiasm and interest was unbounded, while the pains which he would take to enroll adherents and to cultivate promising athletes were almost beyond belief.

"Some trainers recommend to their pupils for the training of all muscle groups one and the same (light) weight and believe they are able to obtain the same effect by frequent repetitions. My experience has taught me that this is wrong, for the muscles of men or animals who are distinguished for certain feats of endurance are by no means over-developed. A long-distance runner or long-distance cyclist always has comparatively thin legs, as have a racehorse, stag, or greyhound.

Nature does not act without aim and purpose. Hence there is a great difference between feats of endurance and feats of strength. One must consider that, although it is quite possible to enlarge muscles by certain light, prolonged exercises, at the same time the development of the sinews may be neglected, and it is the sinews which transport the action of the muscles to the bone xframe. The sinews can only be exercised and strengthened by correspondingly heavy muscle work.

Besides, to take a paradoxical example, it is quite impossible to improve strong muscle groups, as, for instance, the hip muscles, with light-weight exercises. A further illustration of the fallacy of attempting to develop the muscles by frequent repetitions with the same light exercises may be found in a comparison with any and every other form of athletics, in which a man would never think of merely repeating his training programme. In order to improve himself either in pace or distance, he must set himself a steady progression of arduous effort".
- George Hackenschmidt, "The Way to Live in Health and Physical Fitness", 1908
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Completely wrong.

Humans have been running for centuries. Kids run. Animals run. The body is designed in a way that lets us run.
Kids don't run, they sprint
They chase each other, jump over obstacles, roll over etc
You will never see kids engaging voluntarily
in boring grown-up exercise
of running around the block like hamsters.

The human body is not designed to run
We run on two legs and the center of gravity is too high
Plus the pressure on joints is not equal, it falls on the legs joints
And finally running upright is bad for aerodynamics.

You seem very keen on keeping your body not acidic
and yet you advocate long distance running
which makes your body release lactic acid
in your muscles and burn them.

No, we are not designed to run.
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Kids don't run, they sprint
They chase each other, jump over obstacles, roll over etc
You will never see kids engaging voluntarily
in boring grown-up exercise
of running around the block like hamsters.

The human body is not designed to run
We run on two legs and the center of gravity is too high
Plus the pressure on joints is not equal, it falls on the legs joints
And finally running upright is bad for aerodynamics.

You seem very keen on keeping your body not acidic
and yet you advocate long distance running
which makes your body release lactic acid
in your muscles and burn them.

No, we are not designed to run.
very interesting post!
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This plan sounds very rigid and unnatural.

A low protein, vegetable based diet would give you more energy, as it is lighter on your system. As for exercise, I think movement should be organic and spontaneous.

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@theX

This plan sounds very rigid and unnatural.

A low protein, vegetable based diet would give you more energy, as it is lighter on your system. As for exercise, I think movement should be organic and spontaneous.
His training program is based on tried and true, proven to work training methods used successfully for decades, now. There is nothing unnatural about lifting things with our bodies.

We perform these movements on a daily basis, whether it's picking up your child off the floor, bending down to pick up a bag of groceries, picking something up and putting it up on a shelf over your head, etc.

In a perfect world, where people do not sit on their asses for a living, unnecessarily lifting heavy things for exercise would seem unnatural; in that case, I would agree.

It's not about building useless muscles. This is the point OP is trying to make. The point is to build a strong and robust body that will carry you through old age! Building extra muscle is just a by-product of being strong!

People today work hard at their jobs, saving up enough money for retirement. What that money ends up being spent on, is medication and the nursery. All of sudden, these people find themselves being pushed around in a wheel chair, unable to enjoy their retirement.

Strength training is about building the muscles, tendons, ligaments, central nervous system, bones, and keeping the organs healthy, so when you become old, you don't end up fragile and weak; instead, you are strong, robust, and mobile. You can actually thrive and enjoy your retirement money, and even wrestle with your grandchildren! Instead of having your grandchildren help you off your chair and walk you up the stairs.


Contrary to mainstream belief, engaging in strength training in the long-term does not turn you into a crippled old person! Old people get into strength training and are curing themselves of parkinsons and osteoporosis!

As for diet: It is important to find something that works for you and that is inline with your beliefs. As long as you're getting stronger and healthier, who cares whether you're a vegan or a paleo guy.

Muscle is metabolic currency, so go to the gym and make a deposit today!

If you don't believe in the whole fitness/gym industry,
then you can go out in nature and lift stones, logs, climb tress, and wrestle bears!
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Alright, so I think I've developed the PERFECT nutrition and fitness plan for all of you. Follow it 100% and you'll have AWESOME results. (The fitness section requires that both men AND women lift HEAVY, with LOW REPS -- No, ladies .. You will NOT get big and bulky.. You do not have as much testosterone as men, and testosterone is the hormone responsible for the bulkiness of men that are working out and eating a lot. You also will NOT lose breast size from bench pressing or doing pushups. Breasts are composed of fat, NOT muscle - so gaining muscle in your pecs will only add to, rather than take away, if anything.

Hopefully this makes it easy for a lot of you that are really confused about what to do to gain strength, and to live a really healthy lifestyle.

Primal diet :

Here's the primary website for it : http://www.marksdailyapple.com/#axzz1wM1CVSfl

Here's the "Start Here" page from that website that will lead you to everything you need to know : http://www.marksdailyapple.com//welc...#axzz1wM1CVSfl

What you CAN eat : Organic meat, organic eggs, vegetables, fruit, nuts/seeds
What you CAN'T eat : Grains, sugar, processed food, corn, potatoes, fruit juice (it's super concentrated with sugar)

You can ONLY eat whole foods that come from the earth. This is what our bodies are designed to function on -- not man made pastries, pasta, cereals, etc.

Make sure you replace table salt/sea salt with Himalayan salt from http://www.mercola.com/

(I personally recommend sticking to organic chicken and organic eggs - and eliminating all red meat from the diet.. but this is personal choice, you can eat red meat as long as it's organic/grass fed)






EXERCISE :

-Monday-
Bench Press - 5x5
Dead Lift - 5x5
Tricep Dips - As many as you can do / 3 sets

-Tuesday-
High Intensity Interval Training - 10 rounds

-Wednesday-
Squat - 5x5
Overhead Press - 5x5
Pullups - As many as you can do / 3 sets

-Thursday-
[OPTIONAL] Regular jogging for 25-30+ minutes (ONLY do this if you feel like you're completely recovered from the work out the day before)

-Friday-
Squat - 5x5
Overhead Press - 5x5
Bentover Row - 5x5

-Saturday-
OFF / REST DAY

-Sunday-
High Intensity Interval Training - 10 rounds



5x5 Explained : 5x5 means FIVE reps and FIVE sets .. For example, Squat 5x5 means that you'll squat 5 times, take a 2 minute break, squat 5 times, take a 2 minute break - etc etc for 5 times total.

You want to make your first 2 sets "warm up" sets.. Your first set should be 40lbs below the max amount you can do for 5 reps, with your second set being 20lbs below the max amount you can do for 5 reps.. After that, knock out 3 sets of 5 reps each with the maximum amount of weight that you can handle.



High Intensity Interval Training Explained : High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) is explained perfectly in this short article - http://www.laststopfatloss.com/the-b...aining-routine

Basically, you warm up by walking at a higher-than-normal pace for 5 minutes, then do 30 seconds of HARD, INTENSE cardio (running, bicycle machine, or anything else that you can do intense cardio with), then walk/peddle slowly for a minute and a half.. Repeat this cycle 10 times.




REASONS FOR FOLLOWING THE DIET ALONG WITH THE FITNESS SCHEDULE : More energy, stronger bones, muscle gain, less stress/more positivity ("feel-good" endorphin chemicals get released in your brain after a good exercise session), weight loss, achieving and staying at a level of optimum health.

If you have ANY questions, definitely feel free to post here and I'll try to get back to you asap. Also, feel free to send this out to any friends/family that are looking for a great health/fitness plan. Good luck
Not bad, but the exercise portion of this is much better:

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Kids don't run, they sprint
They chase each other, jump over obstacles, roll over etc
You will never see kids engaging voluntarily
in boring grown-up exercise
of running around the block like hamsters.

The human body is not designed to run
We run on two legs and the center of gravity is too high
Plus the pressure on joints is not equal, it falls on the legs joints
And finally running upright is bad for aerodynamics.

You seem very keen on keeping your body not acidic
and yet you advocate long distance running
which makes your body release lactic acid
in your muscles and burn them.

No, we are not designed to run.
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Kids don't run, they sprint

No, we are not designed to run.
Does that mean we shouldn't run then? Whether we are designed to or not doesn't change the fact that millions of people around the world run and enjoy it. Should we turn up at every marathon, half marathon and 10k handing out 'dangers of running' flyers?
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In response to the naysayers of traditional strength training, I'll just post some more quotes from George Hackenschmidt, one of the fathers of physical culture, who lived to the age of 90!

I share these same views, and I'm sure many others here do as well.
“I have come to the distinct conclusion, that the physical constitution of the human frame never was intended merely for study, but rather for manual and bodily exercise. I have found that those who have lived an active outdoor life have retained and enjoyed brightness born of health far longer than others.”

“For it is only by exercising with heavy weights that any man can hope to develop really great strength. He should of course combine these exercises with skipping, running, jumping and gymnastics of every description in order to similarly develop his activity and agility, but, unless he sedulously carries out the barbell and dumb-bell exercises as well, he can never acquire really great physical powers.”

“As a principal rule I should stipulate for regularity of training.”
“There are only two principal means of acquiring strength – exercise and perseverance.

"Excessive and rapid exercising is harmful. Overwork, like laziness, spells disease. To go ahead gently. Increase your weights and exercises gradually and slowly".

"Perseverance only brings permanent strength. To give their attention to all parts constituting their corporate frames, for real strength is all-round strength".

- George Hackenschmidt" The Way To Live In Health and Physical Fitness", 1908

Lift, sprint, be mobile, strong and athletic.
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Old 31-05-2012, 02:59 PM   #16
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Does that mean we shouldn't run then? Whether we are designed to or not doesn't change the fact that millions of people around the world run and enjoy it. Should we turn up at every marathon, half marathon and 10k handing out 'dangers of running' flyers?
Depending on what you mean by running.
We have the ability sprint because we need to either escape or chase
Running without being chased or not for chasing is plain stupid!
I'm not a hamster.
The system makes me a hamster enough already.

As for the marathon runners, I don't care
If anyone reads this and takes notice, then fine
If they don't, then it's fine by me too.

I honestly do not care for other people
Everyone deserves their own destiny
Who am I to interfere with the life's natural flow?
There are so many candidates to save the world?
Who gave them mandate to do it anyway?
God?

I come here to find useful information
and in return share information I already have
Only because it's fair that way
I don't come here to save the world
In fact, the world needs to be saved from the saviors!
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Old 31-05-2012, 06:05 PM   #17
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Depending on what you mean by running.
We have the ability sprint because we need to either escape or chase
Running without being chased or not for chasing is plain stupid!
I'm not a hamster.
The system makes me a hamster enough already.

As for the marathon runners, I don't care
If anyone reads this and takes notice, then fine
If they don't, then it's fine by me too.

I honestly do not care for other people
Everyone deserves their own destiny
Who am I to interfere with the life's natural flow?
There are so many candidates to save the world?
Who gave them mandate to do it anyway?
God?

I come here to find useful information
and in return share information I already have
Only because it's fair that way
I don't come here to save the world
In fact, the world needs to be saved from the saviors!
Well we only need to look at sprinters and compare them to marathon runners, sprinters look far more healthy, most marathon runners look like crack heads.
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Old 31-05-2012, 07:04 PM   #18
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Well we only need to look at sprinters and compare them to marathon runners, sprinters look far more healthy, most marathon runners look like crack heads.
The thought that always springs into my head when a see a long distance runners/athletes is, 'they are shortening their life because of all the stress'.

Things like marathons & triathalons must be 'extreme' stress on the body & all the training that goes with it!
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There are millions of people running all over the world. The body is designed in such a way that allows YOU to run. You have that ability barring those physically disabled.

Define why we aren't "designed" to run?. Which design(s) in the body don't allow you to run?.
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There are millions of people running all over the world. The body is designed in such a way that allows YOU to run.

Define why we aren't "designed" to run?.
Did you read my post?
Did you read the whole thread about it?

I always say that a dialogue is impossible.
People do not listen to the opponent
People always interpret according to their knowledge.
There are no questions?
Questions are the answers.

So are you asking a question or stating an answer?

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You bet - my question was not a question at all either!
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