President Obama's appearance is so cool, pleasant

[anyuser]

Originally Posted by voxvot

For decades the big Tobacco companies hired attractive and laid back actors to promote their products. Now the interest groups do the same thing with their political representatives. Look at Cameron, he's like a John Lewis senior sales assistant, the posh boy who couldn't get a job in the professions, someone who has never once articulated an inspiring or original thought.

Jackie Mason Video Blog 3 "On Obama" - YouTube

In 1934, American tennis star Ellsworth Vines did some advertising for R.J Reynolds’ Camel cigarette brand. He was 23 years old at the time, and was among the world’s best players. The magazine ad at right shows Vines in a full-page endorsement for the cigarette in his tennis attire, depicted as smoking a cigarette at the end of a tennis match. However, it is not known whether Vines in fact was a smoker, as sometimes endorsing stars only posed with ciga- rettes to do the advertising. This ad, in any case, appeared in Popular Science magazine October 1934, and perhaps other publications as well.

As this is written in mid-2010, it appears especially odd and out of place to see a tennis player hawking ciga- rettes. Something about all those tennis “whites,” the game’s clean and healthy image – plus today’s media offerings of young and vital tennis players portrayed as epitomes of health. What’s more, having a cigarette after an exhausting tennis match is probably the last thing you’d expect a tennis player in current times to actually do, or espouse for anyone else to do. Yet, in the 1930s – and through the 1960s in fact – athletes endorsing tobacco products was not uncommon. Tobacco companies re- cruited them as they did Hollywood film
stars and other celebrities.



Ellsworth Vines also appeared in at least one other 1935 magazine ad for Camel cigarettes, this one depicting a range of athletes from different sports. This ad, shown at left, is headlined, “We Asked Sports Champions,” who are then featured in a series of photographs, each offering a short sentence or two about why they like Camels. Vines, shown in the upper lefthand portion of the ad, is quoted under the segment on “Flavor!” saying: “Camels taste like a million dollars!…That rich, mellow flavor appeals to my taste… And I actually feel a ‘lift’ from a Camel!” Others in the ad, featured under respective Camel descriptors, are: Helen Hicks, pro golfer under “Energy!”; Bill Miller, champion sculler, under “Value!”; Frank Copeland, billiard champion under “So Mild!”; and, finally, Harry “Stubby” Kruger, Olympic swimmer and water polo star, under “Healthy Nerves!,” who is photographed in Hollywood poolside where he is quoted saying: “I smoke a great deal and Camels don’t ever ruffle my nerves!”

For additional stories on tobacco and advertising at this website, visit the “Madison Avenue” category page, or go to the Archive for other story choices. Thanks for visiting. http://www.pophistorydig.com/?tag=celebrity-tobacco-ads

[anyuser]

Originally Posted by ex sheep

They Live.

movie title, everyone should see it

[arcyclus]

Originally Posted by godspeed

I think he is possessed myself...when you see only black around them

you can be sure their well possessed by a demon...never can listen to him

long without thinking...he's not human....

I think he's a manchurian candidate myself......

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012...e-memory-hole/

[ritchs]

Originally Posted by jikwan

well, its like this......in my studies of cause and effect--if a person
thinks, acts or speaks with a mind that seeks to harm-then that persons
entire body-mind unit is affected. everything is darkened, weakened,cloudednervous system affected,immune system too.
the chi/prana energy is wekened. its a scientific fact. one example is if
you charge water with your own bad thoughts or energy it (the water)
turns into an evil looking sludge. drink it-and it enters your body and
messes with everything. just you try eating with an angry mind an what do you get? pain and indigestion
i know for sure-if i killed a guy or instructed another to do the deed himself
id feel shit. nervous and full of regrets. i reckon a good 98% of people would feel the same
but this guy signs the death warrant on a hundred thousand
it goes against psycological/biological laws.
biological laws here means mind affecting the body

A psychopath can be charming and intelligent and amiable and in the next breathe stick a folk in your eye without a ripple in their heatbeat

[ritchs]

Originally Posted by anyuser

In 1934, American tennis star Ellsworth Vines did some advertising for R.J Reynolds’ Camel cigarette brand. He was 23 years old at the time, and was among the world’s best players. The magazine ad at right shows Vines in a full-page endorsement for the cigarette in his tennis attire, depicted as smoking a cigarette at the end of a tennis match. However, it is not known whether Vines in fact was a smoker, as sometimes endorsing stars only posed with ciga- rettes to do the advertising. This ad, in any case, appeared in Popular Science magazine October 1934, and perhaps other publications as well.

As this is written in mid-2010, it appears especially odd and out of place to see a tennis player hawking ciga- rettes. Something about all those tennis “whites,” the game’s clean and healthy image – plus today’s media offerings of young and vital tennis players portrayed as epitomes of health. What’s more, having a cigarette after an exhausting tennis match is probably the last thing you’d expect a tennis player in current times to actually do, or espouse for anyone else to do. Yet, in the 1930s – and through the 1960s in fact – athletes endorsing tobacco products was not uncommon. Tobacco companies re- cruited them as they did Hollywood film
stars and other celebrities.



Ellsworth Vines also appeared in at least one other 1935 magazine ad for Camel cigarettes, this one depicting a range of athletes from different sports. This ad, shown at left, is headlined, “We Asked Sports Champions,” who are then featured in a series of photographs, each offering a short sentence or two about why they like Camels. Vines, shown in the upper lefthand portion of the ad, is quoted under the segment on “Flavor!” saying: “Camels taste like a million dollars!…That rich, mellow flavor appeals to my taste… And I actually feel a ‘lift’ from a Camel!” Others in the ad, featured under respective Camel descriptors, are: Helen Hicks, pro golfer under “Energy!”; Bill Miller, champion sculler, under “Value!”; Frank Copeland, billiard champion under “So Mild!”; and, finally, Harry “Stubby” Kruger, Olympic swimmer and water polo star, under “Healthy Nerves!,” who is photographed in Hollywood poolside where he is quoted saying: “I smoke a great deal and Camels don’t ever ruffle my nerves!”

For additional stories on tobacco and advertising at this website, visit the “Madison Avenue” category page, or go to the Archive for other story choices. Thanks for visiting. http://www.pophistorydig.com/?tag=celebrity-tobacco-ads

Awesome post on the power of propaganda and how they were and are still able to sell ideas, politics, products. Repeat a lie enough times and it becomes the truth, it's been said. I remember much of the commercials in the 1950,s, 1960's and after.

Originally Posted by arcyclus

I think he's a manchurian candidate myself......

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012...e-memory-hole/

I am thinking much the same way. There was a time not many years ago I would say it is utterly impossible to make someone do something against their will in such a flawless and invisible manner. Not any more since I read about Monarch and China lake, Laurel Canyon series, Fritz Springmeiers stuff, etc

They can rewrite history too through textbooks and the scrubbing of that article link you posted off the internet. It is mind boggling in scope

[springcleaningyet]

You say that you think 98% of people would feel guilt if they had taken the actions that Obama has, and you're not far off. A generally accepted number, I believe, is that 99% of the population feels empathy like they are supposed to, while the remaining one percent doesn't. These are the people that are considered psychopaths and sociopaths, and Obama is definitely one of them.

Like others have already said, having a conscience isn't part of the job description for the higher offices in politics. In fact, I would argue that it's the very people that are psycho-/sociopaths that gravitate towards positions of power on nearly any level because it allows them the freedom to violate others. Personally, I have no desire for such power - not that that makes me superior or anything, I just don't - and it's partly because I have no desire to inflict suffering on others for my own gain. And like others have said, these sickos not only don't feel bad about what they've done, they don't feel as if they've done anything wrong to feel bad about in the first place!

If I may be allowed a couple of Seinfeld references... Obama has the Kevorka, like any good politician should. (I use the word 'good' in the loosest sense possible)

...and "Remember Jerry [or Barry], it's not a lie if you believe it!"

[christ4life]

Originally Posted by jikwan

a real nice guy. i look at the way hes talking and
how he presents himself here and ask....how can one
reputed to cause so much suffering and damage in
the world look so cool and give off such a pleasant aura?
using my logic....anyone commited to harming people should
look a lot worse than this
can anyone explain this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18259681

The same reason why people would follow an antichrist. Its easier to trust someone who looks good, and gives them what they want until they are expected to do something in return. I hope people know by now that looks can be decieving, and actions speak louder than words. It is the inside that counts in the end. Besides why would anyone want to be remembered as a horribly, nasty, arrogant, and cruel tyrant in the end is beyond me. Once again people come people go they will all be forgotten anyway.

[jikwan]

thanks guys, for the imput

still trying to figure out the mechanics of this phenomena
and heres the theory--this may explain it.....

if a person 100% copletely believes that what hes doing is right,
and is for the greater good......then, no matter what the action is-it
may be sawing in half a live new born infant, or giving the go ahead
to bomb innocent civilians or nuking a city or putting a stamp on
an envelope
the most important thing is intention. if the intention is 100% in
one direction, its a perfect action in your opinion. you have no doubt,
you feel right about it and why should there be remorse if what youre
doing is the right thing?
conditioning is the key. you either condition yourself or others do it
for you
there is a saying...you cant really blame a man who had the right
intention
another.....the path to hell is paved with good intentions

someone who thinks they are doing right---they fire on all cylinders,
feel good, exhilerated, peaceful, calm and fully awake to their action

but if that same person thinks that a perticular action is wrong-but
still does it.......theyre gonna feel shit
isnt it?

[jikwan]

Originally Posted by springcleaningyet

And like others have said, these sickos not only don't feel bad about what they've done, they don't feel as if they've done anything wrong to feel bad about in the first place!

exactly!

[jikwan]

Originally Posted by christ4life

Besides why would anyone want to be remembered as a horribly, nasty, arrogant, and cruel tyrant in the end is beyond me.

they wouldnt want that because they fully believe that their
actions make for great respect and praise from all

[king triad]

Obama is an egomaniac who loves patting himself on the back. Throw in the fact he's a psychopath and you've got a very dangerous charmer...

[christ4life]

Originally Posted by jikwan

they wouldnt want that because they fully believe that their
actions make for great respect and praise from all

Just because they believe that doesn't mean it will happen that way.

[ritchs]

Originally Posted by springcleaningyet

You say that you think 98% of people would feel guilt if they had taken the actions that Obama has, and you're not far off. A generally accepted number, I believe, is that 99% of the population feels empathy like they are supposed to, while the remaining one percent doesn't. These are the people that are considered psychopaths and sociopaths, and Obama is definitely one of them.

Like others have already said, having a conscience isn't part of the job description for the higher offices in politics. In fact, I would argue that it's the very people that are psycho-/sociopaths that gravitate towards positions of power on nearly any level because it allows them the freedom to violate others. Personally, I have no desire for such power - not that that makes me superior or anything, I just don't - and it's partly because I have no desire to inflict suffering on others for my own gain. And like others have said, these sickos not only don't feel bad about what they've done, they don't feel as if they've done anything wrong to feel bad about in the first place!

If I may be allowed a couple of Seinfeld references... Obama has the Kevorka, like any good politician should. (I use the word 'good' in the loosest sense possible)

...and "Remember Jerry [or Barry], it's not a lie if you believe it!"

That is just about an accepted scientific fact. Consider some of the Nazi high command in the second world war, or the behavior of Joseph Stalin who murdered anyone who offended his 'sensibilities' in the slightest for a few examples.

There was a fabulous book, called "The Sociopath next Door"
It describes them, and they are very charming likable people, sometimes very intelligent and cultured, who would strangle you without remorse in a heartbeat.

They statistically make up 4% of the population. They vary on a spectrum from the corporate hatchetman who guts a company or trims the staff back severely without any compassion, to the homicidal maniac Hannibal Lecter type that Hollywood movies are made about.

4%= 1 person in 25 that you meet!

They claw their way to the top of the power structure as they are driven by some inner mechanism or demon to control other peoples lives. They are found disproportionately in management or power positions where they have a weapon like law enforcement. They know they are different and conceal their unacceptable behavior carefully.

There are a number of websites that are devoted to this problem and the havoc they cause in society. Take the Illuminati for example. Instead of just chilling on the Riviera with a harem of beautiful bimbos and enjoying their wealth, they seek to control the fate of other peoples lives through Bilderberger meetings and such activities.

They are not like us at all, they know it, and our having a conscience puts us at a disadvantage against them

Its not about the money which they seek and horde, its really about power. Just like the rapist where sex is secondary, it's all about the power

[helloperator]

Originally Posted by jikwan

a real nice guy. i look at the way hes talking and
how he presents himself here and ask....how can one
reputed to cause so much suffering and damage in
the world look so cool and give off such a pleasant aura?
using my logic....anyone commited to harming people should
look a lot worse than this
can anyone explain this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18259681

I think he looks smarmy

[jikwan]

Originally Posted by ritchs

That is just about an accepted scientific fact. Consider some of the Nazi high command in the second world war, or the behavior of Joseph Stalin who murdered anyone who offended his 'sensibilities' in the slightest for a few examples.

There was a fabulous book, called "The Sociopath next Door"
It describes them, and they are very charming likable people, sometimes very intelligent and cultured, who would strangle you without remorse in a heartbeat.

They statistically make up 4% of the population. They vary on a spectrum from the corporate hatchetman who guts a company or trims the staff back severely without any compassion, to the homicidal maniac Hannibal Lecter type that Hollywood movies are made about.

4%= 1 person in 25 that you meet!

They claw their way to the top of the power structure as they are driven by some inner mechanism or demon to control other peoples lives. They are found disproportionately in management or power positions where they have a weapon like law enforcement. They know they are different and conceal their unacceptable behavior carefully.

There are a number of websites that are devoted to this problem and the havoc they cause in society. Take the Illuminati for example. Instead of just chilling on the Riviera with a harem of beautiful bimbos and enjoying their wealth, they seek to control the fate of other peoples lives through Bilderberger meetings and such activities.

They are not like us at all, they know it, and our having a conscience puts us at a disadvantage against them

Its not about the money which they seek and horde, its really about power. Just like the rapist where sex is secondary, it's all about the power

the more i investigate this subject-the worse it gets. very revealing.
looks like we are all in a situation where our lives, the quality of it, is
determined by socio/psycopaths. it is exactly the same as being born
into a family where the father is a brutal, cruel and exploitive.

im now wondering if this (our present situation) has always been that way
throughout recorded history. that it is enevitable that psycopaths always
manouver themselves to the top positions of power.
it seems like its a universal fact of life: if its good now-wait a while. some
psycopath will takeover. its bound to happen.
and once these psycos get into power- it is an impossibility to remove them.
you cant talk to them and expect them to see reason. cant ask them
politely. they dont care. they have no concience

not having the concience faculty
all the socio/psycopaths share this condition. and i think it is not an
accident or a flaw in nature that one has no concience. its a very strong
karma that has been developed over a very long time. lifetimes, even.

how do we deal with these guys?
so far, i can concieve of only one way.....brute force. all the nice ways
wont work. anyone have a better idea?
only one problem here.......nobody seriously believes in brute force

[ronisron]

He probably seems cool because as a teen he would break the puff puff pass circle and take a hit off the joint whenever he pleased, and he and his buddies used to like to hotbox in a car with the windows rolled up -- all kinds of toking games. He's probably still hitting the green in stressful situations like press conferences, and meeting with other politicos, hence the mellow aura and cool exterior.

Snake oil salesman? Check. All his words rehearsed then sent to him via earpiece and teleprompter? Check. Psychopathology? Check. Pothead? Check.

That's a waste of weed. Obama = poop.

[king triad]

Just count yourself lucky you don't end up on one of his kill lists..this guy plays judge,jury, and executioner ..He's a vicious psychopath in sheep's clothing..

[tnt1]

Originally Posted by jikwan

a real nice guy. i look at the way hes talking and
how he presents himself here and ask....how can one
reputed to cause so much suffering and damage in
the world look so cool and give off such a pleasant aura?
using my logic....anyone commited to harming people should
look a lot worse than this
can anyone explain this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18259681

Probably because in truth Obama is just an old stoner from the 60s under the dress for success image presented and someone else runs the show manipulating him now just like they manipulated him to get him into office. Doesn't take much thought to figure out who those someone's are. Just look at who is in his ear the most each day. Banksters! There is no silica valley, no military, no reps for retired, big industry, nope. Its all bankers in his ear everyday. Corp. business bought the democracy that is supposed to rule us proving Franklin D's worries were legit even in the 30's.

Its no accident Obama is related to the Bush family and several other past Presidents and leaders including royals you know. He was selected as the puppet figure image to display. Just so happened they had to clean him up a bit to present him to everyone and do some covering up of his Choom gang past in Hawaii and other goings on. Its doubtful Obama has much of real care as to what is going on. He may not even have a clue. He reads the lines, says what they tell him and when they say jump he says how high? He like all the others around him elected in office are just bought and paid for at this point. They need not have much mental capacity to be yes men. They get in over their heads they call the hot line to get advise and if they get caught on something they stumbled with, well, sound bites are not sworn testimony. (their words not mine)

Snake oil salesman all of them. They only pretend to care about your health. They really don't give a shit about much anything other than their own needs at the moment though. Don't be fooled. Obama is just another puppet.

[ritchs]

Originally Posted by jikwan

the more i investigate this subject-the worse it gets. very revealing.
looks like we are all in a situation where our lives, the quality of it, is
determined by socio/psycopaths. it is exactly the same as being born
into a family where the father is a brutal, cruel and exploitive.

im now wondering if this (our present situation) has always been that way
throughout recorded history. that it is enevitable that psycopaths always
manouver themselves to the top positions of power.
it seems like its a universal fact of life: if its good now-wait a while. some
psycopath will takeover. its bound to happen.
and once these psycos get into power- it is an impossibility to remove them.
you cant talk to them and expect them to see reason. cant ask them
politely. they dont care. they have no concience

not having the concience faculty
all the socio/psycopaths share this condition. and i think it is not an
accident or a flaw in nature that one has no concience. its a very strong
karma that has been developed over a very long time. lifetimes, even.

how do we deal with these guys?
so far, i can concieve of only one way.....brute force. all the nice ways
wont work. anyone have a better idea?
only one problem here.......nobody seriously believes in brute force

There is another facet to the psychopath problem. There are the genetically born psychopaths (I don't know if this is hereditary or a random mutation, prenatal development) and another group called secondary psychopaths.

When surrounded by primary psychopaths who exhibit extreme behaviors like being sadistic or such, people at the power structure of that group will follow along and eventually acquire psychopathic characteristics. They do this in order to survive within the group.

Groups examples are the gangs like the mafia, soldiers who tend toward terrorizing civilians and committing atrocities. Rather than be odd man out, they go along with the groups behavior and eventually acquire the insensitive attitude, they are basically followers.

I am no psychologist but have read a lot about evil minds and try to understand how it is possible for people to do such extreme things to other human beings.

I believe there is a third group of people who are marginal psychopaths, but can become normal. But if they grow up in a severe disadvantaged environment, they become career criminals. Unlike the secondary psychopaths, they have more choice and take a dark path, its not purely about survival.

There was a guy named Joe "Mad Dog" Sullivan who is doing consecutive life sentences in a NY prison, who had a good childhood and his father was a policeman. He became the most feared mafia assassin in the United states, and was routinely hired by the Genevese crime family, Fat Tony Salerno. He has a video interview on Youtube, and he admitted the he reveled in being the baddest of the bad guys, having even evil people fear him. And he said "It was all bullshit" , it didn't help him in the end, it was all ego and glory.

You are absolutely dead right. In the end, psychopaths will try to take over the power structure and hijack the goodness away from humanity. That is why all citizens must vote and take a very active part in community affairs like school pta's, police watchdogs, and most importantly a free press. Propaganda like Tavistock and the acquiring of the key newspapers and media has stacked the deck against us. But the citizens must remember that freedom is not free, they have to be very involved, it doesn't run on autopilot

Brute force is the course of last resort, like we see in Greece with the voting being done from the rooftops and molotovs in the street. If things go far enough the people become like crazed apes. There is always a tipping point, and the think tanks of the elites that suppress the people are very savvy about tipping points and when to back off and regroup and attack from a different angle. Every corrupt regime always winds up in the dust, even Rome fell and it was the biggest and best organized. Even with their brutal crucifixions and wars, they fell and were overrun.

Early intervention and testing will rout them out, where they could respond to caring social therapies and conditioning. There is no money in this for the rich psychos, so there will be no research. Only when we start over can this approach be considered. Presently the system had been completely hijacked, and I believe the turning point was the assassination of jfk, it went really downhill fast after that.

[jikwan]

its getting interesting
i have a suspicion---that we up against a whole mountain of psycopaths.
those that are our masters must all have the same psycological characteristics
ie theyre all psycopaths. eg 10 psycos working on a project, they need
another guy to help them. but hes straight and good natured. its either
he adopts their characteristics or leaves. he cannot fake it-he wouldnt
be able to stand the wrongness of it all. but if he perserveres and sticks
it out then he'll become like they are
10 straight, good natured need help-id say the psyco could manage fairly
well with them
what im saying sounds crazy-----the thousands that are our masters---
they are all psycopaths!
what chance do we have against this machine?
we are fucked