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Old 27-05-2012, 01:33 AM   #1
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Does anyone here know anything about a fraternity known as the Fraternal Order of Police? I just recently heard about them. They claim to have 350,000 members. Their emblem is a five pointed star. One of the bottom lower points of the star has the image of the all seeing eye. The other point has an image of a handshake the looks like a masonic handshake. I have a strong feeling that they have close connections to Freemasonry. If anyone can provide any info about this fraternity, i will appreciate it much.
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Old 29-05-2012, 02:54 AM   #2
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UNBELIEVABLE! Not one person knows anything about this organization, like what kind of connections to freemasonry they might have! NOT ONE PERSON!
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Old 29-05-2012, 03:02 AM   #3
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Old 29-05-2012, 03:31 PM   #4
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Does anyone here know anything about a fraternity known as the Fraternal Order of Police? I just recently heard about them. They claim to have 350,000 members. Their emblem is a five pointed star. One of the bottom lower points of the star has the image of the all seeing eye. The other point has an image of a handshake the looks like a masonic handshake. I have a strong feeling that they have close connections to Freemasonry. If anyone can provide any info about this fraternity, i will appreciate it much.
The handshake on the logo is not a Masonic grip, most friends shake hands so I imagine it is to symbolize their fraternal bond. As for the Eye it probably symbolizes the fact that they watch over the law. Not sure. I would imagine the star is symbolic of a badge, but not sure.

They FOP has no Masonic affiliation or recognition by Freemasonry in that capacity. They are not all Masons, but I would imagine that some of them are. There are Masons who are in Rotary but Rotary isn't Masonic.

The only connection they may have to Freemasonry would be that I am sure there are Officers who may be Masons, but there are also doctors who are Masons so it would be just that and nothing more. Just because one is a Member of the F.O.P. would not mean he is a Mason or Masonic in any way.
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A list of British Public servants who are Freemasons or Bilderberg attendees...

Malcolm Campbell Former Commander and Head of Scotland Yard's Intelligence branch...Manor of St. James Lodge, No.9179

Mike Carr LibDem candidate for West Wight, Isle of Wight Council elections, deselected after money disappeared from ...Needles Lodge, No.2838 Isle of Wight County Press, 3 November 2011

John Cass Former Police Commander, Scotland Yard... Manor of St. James Lodge, No.9179


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Old 29-05-2012, 07:26 PM   #6
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UNBELIEVABLE! Not one person knows anything about this organization, like what kind of connections to freemasonry they might have! NOT ONE PERSON!
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Old 29-05-2012, 10:28 PM   #8
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English Freemasonry is different than here. In America it usually isn't anything we hide.
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English Freemasonry is indeed very different to US Freemasonry.

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A list of British Public servants who are Freemasons or Bilderberg attendees...

Malcolm Campbell Former Commander and Head of Scotland Yard's Intelligence branch...Manor of St. James Lodge, No.9179

Mike Carr LibDem candidate for West Wight, Isle of Wight Council elections, deselected after money disappeared from ...Needles Lodge, No.2838 Isle of Wight County Press, 3 November 2011

John Cass Former Police Commander, Scotland Yard... Manor of St. James Lodge, No.9179
Three of them? Are you sure?

That seems rather a lot. Are you sure it isn't two?

And this is Freemasons OR Bilderberg attendees... The mind boggles.

Perhaps there are as many as 10 in all British public servants!

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English Freemasonry is indeed very different to US Freemasonry.
What do you see are the main differences?
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Interesting how the question about FOP suddenly become about Freemasonry.
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Interesting how the question about FOP suddenly become about Freemasonry.
You could mention Ice Cream Sundaes and it would lead back to Freemasonry for some on here. We run it all ...remember.
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What do you see are the main differences?
In England hats are never worn but suits are always worn. The FB lasts 2 hours and is always sit-down. Pw in RA changed. I may think of others.
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Old 30-05-2012, 01:55 PM   #15
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In England hats are never worn but suits are always worn. The FB lasts 2 hours and is always sit-down. Pw in RA changed. I may think of others.
We never wear suits, I wish we did sometimes. Our Master always wears a hat. We eat before lodge but it doesn't last two hours.

I was speaking more to the perception that it seems in England they tend to keep their affiliation quite where here we do not it seems...is that true, and why?
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English Freemasonry only became "secret" around 75 years ago (1940s) and clung on to the habit long after the war had finished. The United Grand Lodge of England suspended all masonic meetings in September of 1939 in response to the National Emergency. However, in December of that year the Quarterly Communication of Grand Lodge allowed meetings to resume but requested that all members of “ENEMY” nationality or birth should temporarily withdraw in the interests of harmony. Meanwhile, the Axis powers were making in-roads into English society in the form of Oswald Mosely’s British Union of Fascists and Spencer Leese’s Imperial Fascist League. Both of these organisations produced anti-masonic and anti-Jewish propaganda as well as supplying intelligence to the Nazis in Germany.

It may come as a surprise to many Freemasons when they learn that Nazi Intelligence, in preparation for their anticipated invasion and occupation of Britain compiled a “Special Search List Great Britain” (Sonderfahndanglist G.B.). The list contained nearly 3,000 entries including names of prominent Freemasons as well as addresses of masonic buildings and companies that had dealings with Freemasons that would be singled out for special treatment upon completion of the invasion. Undoubtedly, this list will have included Sir Winston Churchill our Prime Minister at the time, as well as the Duke of Kent and King George VI. The existence of such a list clearly demonstrates that the Nazis would have followed their usual programme of suppression (or worse) if their invasion plans had come to fruition. Another little known fact is that whilst the UGLE appears to have remained largely unaware (at least officially) of these sinister events, individual Freemasons were obviously aware of and worried by the events occurring in mainland Europe. Some had even gone as far as making the heart-rending decision to end the lives of themselves and their loved ones rather than to fall into the hands of the Nazis, if they landed on English soil. Freemasons in Britain had only to look helplessly across the English Channel, to see the treatment of their brethren 25 miles away in France (some researchers estimate around 1,000 French Freemasons were deported to Nazi concentration camps).

As you can see there were good reasons for Freemasonry in England going underground during the years of WWII. Before that time and especially during the Victorian and Edwardian eras Freemasonry in England was very public and even had processions through the streets. The UGLE has now become much more aware of the PR aspects of Freemasonry and the general public and this will become even far more apparent as it prepares to celebrate the 300th anniversary of the Grand Lodge in 2017.
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Three of them? Are you sure?

That seems rather a lot. Are you sure it isn't two?

And this is Freemasons OR Bilderberg attendees... The mind boggles.

Perhaps there are as many as 10 in all British public servants!

Thank you for your memorable post.
A list of British Public servants who are Freemasons or Bilderberg attendees...

http://bobblackmanmp.info/masonic_public.html
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Freemasonry is not a secret society, but Lodge meetings, like those of many other groups, are private, open only to members. The rules and aims of Freemasonry are available to the public, many of the well known books on Freemasonry being available from the local library. Grand Lodge and Provincial Grand Lodges have websites. Meeting places are known and in many areas the local community for activities other than Freemasonry uses them.

Members are encouraged to speak openly about Freemasonry. Masons have sometimes been understandably reticent about discussing their membership, perhaps fearing discrimination which may have affected their employment adversely. Such discrimination has been challenged legally.

The secrets in Freemasonry are the traditional modes of recognition. They are not used indiscriminately, but solely as a test of membership, e.g. when visiting a Lodge where that person is not known and cannot be vouched for.

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A list of British Public servants who are Freemasons or Bilderberg attendees...

http://bobblackmanmp.info/masonic_public.html
Yes, I know.
Three British Public servants who are Freemasons or Bilderberg attendees... So what?

It is not that big a deal.
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They take oaths to commit purgery to accomplish their lodges satanic agenda and protect their fellow satanists for one.
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