Global Warming Skeptics Are Guilty of a Crime

[zephirop]

Originally Posted by believenothing

Oh you're one of THOSE people.....

Conspiracy sites aren't healthy. Trust what the media says, why would they lie to you? Politicians are the democratically elected leaders of the people and you should trust everything they say Global Warming is real Corporations have no power The world is not run by a group or cabal of people, it's run by many individuals and that's why we have problems Nothing to see here, don't ask any questions. Just obey and do what they say

Conspiracy sites are only unhealthy for those who stand to lose the most from the spread of ideas. What about dangerously wrong kook theories? Well they tend to never hit the viral point required to convince enough people to care, thus they are harmless. A lot of those kook theories are seeded by psychopathic 'troofers' to poison the well with disinformation. I know this based on observation, it's obvious. Plus we know those people exist and they do that. It's not even a secret.

There is absolutely a single group/cabal on this planet which run much of the world. The central banking cartel. Nearly all of the Western (and some of the Eastern) central banks are all foreign, private, unaccountable, non-government entities in control of most of the world's money supply. They print worthless paper money out of thin air backed by faith alone and lend it to nations at interest. Society puts a 'value' on the money greater than any collateral assets these banks may or many not have.

These organized criminal network of banksters are unelected but since they ARE the money supply they can make all the rules by way of the golden rule. That's why central-banking linked dynasties "coincidentally" own a lot of private land in this world and a lot of natural resources including things like gold/silver/diamond minds. And they will always be dynasties so long as they pass their fortune on to the next of kin.

This money can be used to buy anything. Bribe or blackmail a politician. Corrupt the police. Pay off hitmen. As long as the world has faith in their worthless paper fiat money, they can do whatever they want.

Then there is the unelected 'financial class' who work for these banksters in Wall Street financial and foreign policy think tanks. They fund the entire Western Intelligence Network.

So don't say there is no cabals, this one is a fact. Denying this fact is a little bit suspicious. Again they can pay for whatever they want including public opinion by buying the media. They can pay scientists to make junk science to support global warming or perpetuate nonsense like Plate Tectonics that you can prove wrong with a fucking map of the ocean floor and common sense alone:

http://platetectonicsbiglie.blogspot.com/

Since most people are scientifically ignorant, their ignorance can be abused by explaining things they don't understand to continue supporting the lie.

Then of course are the psychopaths and their deceptive tricks and the business class reflects their mentality. Soulless corporations and their lobbies. The Israel lobby owns the US congress. There might be opposing groups in the single digits, but for the most part the world is run by a tiny number of powerful people.

Most people don't think for themselves. The establishment has conditioned them not to. They've convinced them not to analyze everything critically and ask the right questions.

In the absence of knowledge, you can never know for sure. But most of everything we are told is a theory. They don't know for sure either but if you don't have an expensive piece of paper and you aren't in their hive-mind club, you are told you can't possibly know what they are talking about. One of the tricks that psychopathic academia uses (they were infiltrated and replaced by a group of liars in the early 20th century). We're not supposed to think for ourselves or observe the obvious things wrong in this world. When harmless observation is viciously criticized for being dangerous, that's proof you're on to something they don't want you to know about or spread around.

Then you got people like you trying to talk such things down. That's awfully suspicious. I've notice the psychopathic disinfoists and pro-establishment shills come and go in waves but use similar patterns in language and tactics. I guess they had to go shopping for SOCKS.

You are an interesting poster, we need more like you.

[steppewar]

At least 99% of climate change is natural and nothing to do with humans. I will continue to use incandescent light bulbs for the rest of my life, guilt free.

[night_gaunt]

Originally Posted by zephirop

You are an interesting poster, we need more like you.

We certainly already have enough.

[night_gaunt]

It's just becoming a personal attack and fails to inform...as usual...
Experience not just on this forum has taught me that you will all begin to banter amongst yourselves because you have no truth to fall back on. The lie becomes more and more widespread and dissipated, as well as delusional.
Please, for the sake of the planet and your fellow humans, look past the 'politics' and do some personal observation and research.
Thanks.

[stelios]

http://english.capital.gr/News.asp?id=1525641

Bank of America Pledges $50 Billion to Combat Climate Change
No doubt taxpayers money

[serpentine]

Originally Posted by night_gaunt

I...Please, for the sake of the planet and your fellow humans, look past the 'politics' and do some personal observation and research.....
Thanks.

The planet will be fine and quite happy resetting the life clock by several hundred million years or so if it comes to that.

[rodin]

Originally Posted by stelios

A number of countries have implemented carbon taxes which disproportionately affect low-income groups because they have no choice but to pay.
Petrol, diesel, gas, electricity are used by everyone and these Global Warming Scam Artists have managed to persuade governments to levy taxes on all these basis commodities.

Global Warming is a lie.
If anything it is getting colder.
Just look outside the window, this is the middle of June and it is cold and wet.

But the worst thing is the fact that Goldman Sachs has set up a Carbon credit trading exchange. trading bogus pieces of Carbon credit paper not worth the paper they are not even written on.

http://www.fsa.gov.uk/consumerinform.../carbon_credit

The FSA is even calling it a "scam and swindle"

ROTHSCHILD AUSTRALIA BEHIND THE PUSH FOR CARBON TAX, AND CARBON TRADING

Surprise surprise! Guess who's behind Julia's big push for a carbon tax, followed of course by "carbon trading," (trading in "carbon credits,)" then followed by "options" on carbon credits, followed by "futures" on carbon credits. Trading on something that doesn't exist, except for what the banksters created out of thin air in the first place, laughing at the stupid goyim behind their backs, all the way to their vaults.
And so the usury by the banksters continues, as it has for 200 years, getting the country - and the world - more and more into their debt. When, oh when, will the stupid goyim wake up?

http://www.freestatevoice.com.au/pol...carbon-trading

2000 years more like

[stelios]

Originally Posted by steppewar

At least 99% of climate change is natural and nothing to do with humans. I will continue to use incandescent light bulbs for the rest of my life, guilt free.

Good on you.
The so called energy saving bulbs are filled with mercury and are highly toxic.

[himitsunomiko]

How Right-Wing Conspiracy Theories May Pose a Genuine Threat to Humanity
http://www.alternet.org/story/153554...ty?page=entire

Tea Partiers, freaking out about "Agenda 21" and convinced global warming isn't real, are gumming up the works for those trying to save the planet.

The paranoia infecting a broad swath of the American right-wing can be comical at times -- think about Orly Taitz and her fellow Birthers. But we laugh at our own peril, because what Richard Hofstadter famously characterized as "the paranoid style in American politics" poses a serious threat to our future: the right's snowballing conspiracy theories could ultimately lead to disaster.

Consider what's happening in Virginia's Middle Peninsula on the western shore of the Chesapeake Bay, among the areas in the U.S. most vulnerable to climate change. Earlier this month, Darryl Fears, reporting for the Washington Post, offered a glimpse into the madness that city planners have faced in recent months as a local Tea Party group, convinced that a nefarious plot by scientists and city officials is afoot, have disrupted their work trying to mitigate the potential impacts of rising sea levels.

"The uprising," wrote Fears, "began at a February meeting about starting a business park for farming oysters in Mathews County." He continued:

"Agenda 21" is one of a number of silly but dangerous conspiracy theories sweeping through the fever swamps of the right. Although admittedly sinister-sounding, Agenda 21 is just a blueprint for sustainable development, especially in emerging economies. It outlines how wealthier countries can contribute to smarter growth through technology transfers and public education. It stresses the importance of fighting deforestation and conserving bio-diversity -- all things that normal people would consider wise.

The important thing to understand about Agenda 21 is that there is absolutely nothing binding or compelling member countries to implement any part of it. It's not a treaty -- it is entirely voluntary and certainly doesn't have any connection to local governments. Yet for the right, with its long John Birch Society undercurrent of paranoia about international institutions, Agenda 21 represents some kind of dark UN conspiracy to impose socialism on the "free world."

That craziness lies at the heart of Michele Bachmann's quixotic war on energy-efficient lightbulbs. Tim Murphy reported, "The Minnesota congresswoman is part of a movement that considers 'sustainability' an existential threat to the United States, one with far-reaching consequences for education, transportation, and family values."

Last year, during the Denver mayoral race, Tea Party candidate Dan Maes argued that a local bike-sharing program, a popular initiative among city residents, was a "very well-disguised" part of a plan by then-Denver mayor (and now Colorado governor) John Hickenlooper for "converting Denver into a United Nations community." Alex Jones constantly hawks the conspiracy. Glenn Beck warned it would lead to "centralized control over all of human life on planet Earth." And in September, Newt Gingrich, hoping to burnish his wingnutty creds, told a group of Orlando Tea Partiers that, if elected, his first order of business would be "to cease all federal funding of any kind of activity that relates to United Nations Agenda 21." (Currently, no federal funding of any kind is used for implementing Agenda 21.)

It's causing uprisings like that seen in Virginia at ordinarily dull city planning board meetings across the country. As Stephanie Mencimer reported for Mother Jones, "Agenda 21 paranoia has swept the Tea Party scene, driving activists around the country to delve into the minutiae of local governance... they're descending on planning meetings and transit debates, wielding PowerPoints about Agenda 21, and generally freaking out low-level bureaucrats with accusations about their roles in a supposed international conspiracy."

Agenda 21 is inextricably linked to the most dangerous conspiracy theory going: that 97 percent of the world's climate scientists are lying when they say human activities are contributing to global climate change. This, too, is supposedly in service of the goal of destroying capitalism, which means one has to believe that climatologists around the world are not only all very political -- enough to conspire to deceive the entire world -- but they also all share the same largely discredited ideology.

Back in Virginia, the Coastal Zone Management program is struggling to "help prepare for the predicted effects of climate change, especially sea-level rise on Virginia's coastal resources." The area is uniquely imperiled; in June, Darryl Fears, a science correspondent, reported that Hampton Roads is especially vulnerable because several rivers run through it on their way to the Chesapeake Bay. He continued:

Fears notes that "the water has risen so much that Naval Station Norfolk is replacing 14 piers at $60 million each to keep ship-repair facilities high and dry," but "this geology is lost in local meetings, where distrust of the local and federal governments is at center stage."

And their harassment is having the desired effect of "freaking out low-level bureaucrats" trying to prepare the area for the changes to come, preparations that have absolutely nothing to do with the United Nations, Agenda 21 or "socialism." According to Fears, Shereen Hughes, a former planning commissioner, is "worried that some officials are giving ground to fearmongers. The uprising against smart growth 'is ridiculous' and 'a conspiracy theory,' she said. But it's effective."

In his excellent book, Collapse, scientist Jared Diamond looked at a number of societies that had seen their physical climates change. He tried to determine what made some cultures die out while others persevered. According to Diamond, it wasn't the severity of the change, or its speed that was the determining factor. One important variable was the foresight of those societies' leaders -- their ability to properly diagnose the problem and adapt, to come up with proactive solutions to the problems they faced.

Diamond, in an interview with the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, said, "one always has to ask about people's cultural response. Why is it that people failed to perceive the problems developing around them, or if they perceived them, why did they fail to solve the problems that would eventually do them in? Why did some peoples perceive and recognize their problems and others not?" Diamond explained:

Today, oil and gas corporations are still funding a bunch of crank climate change deniers in order to avoid regulations that might slow their "short-term interests" in extracting as much wealth as they can from traditional hydrocarbons. And here we have Tea Partiers -- a "movement" nurtured by business-friendly Republican operatives and backed by the Koch brothers' dirty energy money -- being whipped into a frenzy by the likes of Glenn Beck and shouting down local planners trying to do something about rising water levels. They're freaking out about energy-efficient lightbulbs and bike-sharing programs, the very sorts of things we need in order to stave off disaster.

So the next time you hear a wingnut spewing feverish nonsense about "climategate" or the "globalist agenda," remember that this is not just fodder for late-night TV monologues, but the kind of stuff that has in the past brought societies faced with changing environments to their ultimate end.

Climate change is a reality. The people who are trying to convince you it's not are the ones who have interests in oil/gas companies and big business who doesn't want any regulations on their pollution. Pointing at the JooS being behind some lie is just a scape goat for the reality of the situation.

[hatebunny]

Genetic Mutation: Donald Brown looks like he is the result of “Crimes Against Humanity” ...

[believenothing]

Originally Posted by himitsunomiko

Climate change is a reality. The people who are trying to convince you it's not are the ones who have interests in oil/gas companies and big business who doesn't want any regulations on their pollution. Pointing at the JooS being behind some lie is just a scape goat for the reality of the situation.

Climate change is a reality on Venus, Jupiter, Saturn, and Neptune. Is our carbon footprint responsible for that too?

These energy kooks are psychopaths. Even if something is ultimately good for our health and environment and also good for future generations they chose the wrong fucking way to sell it to the public: Deception. Junk science. Lying.

You want to sell something on the public? Tell the fucking truth. Unfortunately they don't know how to do that.

They don't care about our health anyways, they care about their own health and making money. And absolutely a lot of Jews are pushing for climate change. Google "Jews climate change"

http://www.yaleclimatemediaforum.org...limate-change/

http://www.jewishclimateinitiative.org/home/index.php

From the horses mouth. They admit they are leading the movement just like some of them admit about leading globalization. The ones who don't admit to leading globalization still call anti-globalization antisemitic.:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisem...ation_movement

"Saying that there is a Jewish conspiracy to control the world is an antisemitic canard used by Nazis and racists trying to use the forgery 'protocols of the elders of zion' to blame the Jewish people for trying to control the world. The same mentality that led to 6,000,000 of my peoples winding up in gas ovens which is an indisputable historical fact. Having said that, if you are anti-globalization you are antisemitic"

I made that up but that's basically what they say. It's like saying "Jews are not behind a world order, but if you are against a world order you are against Jews." And I know it's not all Jews, you can tell the good from the bad. There isn't much good over in Israel and that's the bulk of them. The rest of them get mad at you for saying such a thing. That's a problem for me and others who realize that it is not just a scapegoat. Which leads me to Tikkun Olam:

Tikkun olam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tikkun olam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Tikkun olam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"repairing the world" or "healing and restoring the world"

You know, cause our world is broken and the goyim (not the Jews) are the ones who broke it and its up to the Jews to fix it. If it was just a hateful scapegoat mentioned by bigots, then why the hell are there all these inconvenient facts? I've see a few times were a Jew or Jew apologist eventually gets cornered with the truth. Their response. "So what? So what if it's true, it just proves that Jews are smarter" or something like that. Uh-huh. So what? You can't expect us to be happy with that answer. It's the wrong answer.

[believenothing]

I posted this in another thread, but it's relevant to climate change:

Climate change science is politically-funded nonsense pseudoscience:

There is a subset of what is often called pseudoscience which differs from what has been here termed pseudoscience. Sometimes this is referred to as "nonsense pseudoscience". Most of these are mathematically based, and the problems are often phrased with tempting simplicity. They often live in a closed system of assumptions and premises, and depend on a faulty interpretation of the rules of that system. While pseudosciences have merely failed to prove themselves true, these undertakings can be proven impossible.

It's junk science. It's like an infinite loop. Basically these manipulative bastards take a half-truth or alternative literal definition of words. They then bend and twist these words into a way that suits their agenda in a clever attempt to trick you into believing that it is true.

It's like saying:

"Drinking this won't kill you*"
"*under normal circumstances. Please see the reverse side of the label for our definition of normal circumstances"

Most of the climate research is worded in such manipulative ways that it's impossible to prove true or false because you have no way of testing or knowing for sure. If you can't prove it one way or another with empirical evidence and the scientific method, then it is NOT science! It's junk science. Just like any science supported by pathological lying politicians. Or any science that justifies the criminal status quo. Or any academic cabal of psychopathic group thinkers who use such junk science to reject radical new ideas that challenge the established truth.

It's not real science! Read between the lines and if you see a closed system that looks like Sony's 4th Quarter negative results spin-o-rama into positive results, it is NOT SCIENCE. I am going to even make a 'radical' statement and say that ALL of consensus-based theoretical science is bullshit junk science. They don't use the scientific method. Facts aren't determined by majority opinions or manipulative little closed-system tricks of words.

[himitsunomiko]

"Junk science" is how bought scientists arrived at the conclusion that there is no man made climate change. I am not going to go point by point with you, nothing will change your mind, most likely, and on my end same token too.

So that our audience has a fair amount of information, here is some for you and them to take into consideration.

Climate change: How do we know?
http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

Are humans definitely causing global warming?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...global-warming

7 Facts About Climate Change And Hunger (This one gives a few points on why it is important not to ignore climate change)
http://www.wfp.org/stories/7-facts-a...nge-and-hunger

Climate Change
Facts about Climate Change
http://www.nature.org/ourinitiatives...ate-change.xml

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by himitsunomiko

"Junk science" is how bought scientists arrived at the conclusion that there is no man made climate change. I am not going to go point by point with you, nothing will change your mind, most likely, and on my end same token too.

So that our audience has a fair amount of information, here is some for you and them to take into consideration.

Climate change: How do we know?
http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

Are humans definitely causing global warming?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...global-warming

7 Facts About Climate Change And Hunger (This one gives a few points on why it is important not to ignore climate change)
http://www.wfp.org/stories/7-facts-a...nge-and-hunger

Climate Change
Facts about Climate Change
http://www.nature.org/ourinitiatives...ate-change.xml

I raise a simple point:

How can humans with a scientific record of the weather for only about 200 years claim the humans produced the change in climate? Surely, they drastically pollute and destroy the environment, because its all based on damn oil.
However, if we would want to evaluate climate change, we would have to take some billion years into account to get any reliable data.
What we do from a human life time perspective is arguing that one second in time of climate is necessarily human created change.
This is highly irrational.

The other point was change of climate in our solar system, its not a local earth phenomenon according to all data the agencies provided.

[believenothing]

Originally Posted by himitsunomiko

"Junk science" is how bought scientists arrived at the conclusion that there is no man made climate change. I am not going to go point by point with you, nothing will change your mind, most likely, and on my end same token too.

So that our audience has a fair amount of information, here is some for you and them to take into consideration.

Climate change: How do we know?
http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

Are humans definitely causing global warming?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...global-warming

7 Facts About Climate Change And Hunger (This one gives a few points on why it is important not to ignore climate change)
http://www.wfp.org/stories/7-facts-a...nge-and-hunger

Climate Change
Facts about Climate Change
http://www.nature.org/ourinitiatives...ate-change.xml

Bullshit, you proved what I said to be true. Look at the guardian article especially:

The 2005 joint statement from the national academies of Brazil, Canada, China, France, Germany, India, Italy, Japan, Russia, the UK and the US said:

"It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities."

I guess we should all trust them at their word because they've had such a great history of telling the truth, huh? That's the best they can do, a fucking adverb? Likely. That's a pretty fucking vague generalization and closed system open to interpretation, exactly like I said above.

"There is strong evidence that the warming of the Earth over the last half-century has been caused largely by human activity, such as the burning of fossil fuels and changes in land use, including agriculture and deforestation."

Emphasis mine. "Strong evidence" they can interpret their definition of strong however they want. Followed by adverb "largely" which is also open to interpretation and deliberately vague, then you got "such as" commonly used in typical office emails as an idiomatic to avoid saying "like" and sound like you are more intelligent.

"If some newly discovered factor can account for the climate change then why aren't carbon dioxide and the other greenhouse gases producing the warming that basic physics tells us they should be?"

Rhetorical question. Jews use these a lot. Is Robert Henson Jewish? An answer in the form of a question, used as a persuasive technique. We're to believe that "basic physics" says so, therefore it is true. Here is what a pro climate change person says:

An enhanced greenhouse effect from CO2 has been confirmed by multiple lines of empirical evidence. Satellite measurements of infrared spectra over the past 40 years observe less energy escaping to space at the wavelengths associated with CO2. Surface measurements find more downward infrared radiation warming the planet's surface. This provides a direct, empirical causal link between CO2 and global warming.

This is not empirical evidence, this is a bastardized definition of empirical evidence. Observational evidence from "multiple lines" followed by separate individual 'experiments'. That's not science, that's a play on words. Different unrelated observations lumped together pretending to be an observational single experiment is not empirical evidence or using the scientific method. It's a closed system of deception

Junk science indeed, prove it wrong. Real science has already proven those guys are liars

[stelios]

Originally Posted by himitsunomiko

Climate change is a reality. The people who are trying to convince you it's not are the ones who have interests in oil/gas companies and big business who doesn't want any regulations on their pollution. Pointing at the JooS being behind some lie is just a scape goat for the reality of the situation.

By writing the word JooS you expose yourself badly.
I have noticed on the web that some people find it impossible to call a spade a spade or in this case a Jew a Jew.
If you want to defend Jews then give them the respect to call them by their preferred term. Or you could call them Khazars which would be more accurate.

Global Warming is a lie.
Man Made Global Warming caused by CO2 is an even bigger lie.
The fact that Jews control all aspects of the Global Warming Scam proves that it is nothing more than a money making ponzi scheme,
Carbon Taxes, trading carbon credits, issuing carbon quotas,
open your eyes and see it for what it is.
You are being taxed for nothing more than a lie.
It is like taxing you according to the amount of rain that falls.

You governments are promoting the Global Warming Scam because it means more tax revenues for them.

[prowler]

Originally Posted by night_gaunt

I'll bet the world would like to believe its a hoax
The religion is irrelevant. Please.
All you have to do is test acidic levels in precipitation and research the temperatures of the past two centuries to know it's real. The world's temperature has risen 1%. 3 more % = bye bye humanity.
Not that i'm trying to scare anyone...
It's the truth.
Just keep pumping that CO2 in the air...its perfectlyyy harmless...

what a bunch of shit grow up.

[stelios]

[night_gaunt]

Originally Posted by prowler

what a bunch of shit grow up.

And you are? Five? Or 45 and on heroin.

[broodstryder]

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news...climate-change

'Gaia' scientist James Lovelock: I was 'alarmist' about climate change