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Old 08-05-2012, 03:36 PM   #21
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You are The Tower

Ambition, fighting, war, courage. Destruction, danger, fall, ruin.The Tower represents war, destruction, but also spiritual renewal. Plans are disrupted. Your views and ideas will change as a result.The Tower is a card about war, a war between the structures of lies and the lightning flash of truth. The Tower stands for "false concepts and institutions that we take for real." You have been shaken up; blinded by a shocking revelation. It sometimes takes that to see a truth that one refuses to see. Or to bring down beliefs that are so well constructed. What's most important to remember is that the tearing down of this structure, however painful, makes room for something new to be built.
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Old 08-05-2012, 04:40 PM   #22
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Chip, YOU SHINE!

I loved your sweet and gentle honky-tonk music. It made me feel all nice inside.



The Nail - I'm sure I have days when I might be the Devil too! I once made these notes about the Devil card -

Bindweed - something running rampant - bondage to one's habits, situations, relationships - need to break the chains of emotion and thoughts - observe the darkside and understand it - enslavement and obsession - Chains of Saturn that are freely worn! - the tyranny of one's elementals - control by the material and base nature - all out of balance.

The Aeclectic Tarot is a very thorough site for people who want to explore Tarot generally or look up more meanings about their card.

http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/

Here is the page to click on the cards and get more meanings.

http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/learn/meanings/

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You are The Tower

Ambition, fighting, war, courage. Destruction, danger, fall, ruin.The Tower represents war, destruction, but also spiritual renewal. Plans are disrupted. Your views and ideas will change as a result.The Tower is a card about war, a war between the structures of lies and the lightning flash of truth. The Tower stands for "false concepts and institutions that we take for real." You have been shaken up; blinded by a shocking revelation. It sometimes takes that to see a truth that one refuses to see. Or to bring down beliefs that are so well constructed. What's most important to remember is that the tearing down of this structure, however painful, makes room for something new to be built.
THAT"S WHY THE CAT STANDS ABOVE IT AS IT"S ESSENCE FILLS THOSE EMPTY STRUCTURAL TOWERS WITH THE FULLNESS OF ABSOLUTE LOVE TO RID THOSE DARK TUNNELS OF FALSE DESIRE WITH THE TRUTH AND LIGHT OF WHAT THE CATS IMAGE REPRESENTS...

CHRISTS ABSOLUTE TRUTH... As it fills those empty structures once more...

THE ACE IN THE HOLE FOR EVERY ONE THAT IS READY TO PLAY HIS OWN CARD IN PARADISE...




ACCEPTING CHRISTS ESSENCE is what fills that Structure You Carry... THE ACE OF SPIRITUAL ESSENCE...

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Old 08-05-2012, 04:50 PM   #23
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The Devil say no morehttp://www.flarn.com/~warlock/tarot/...jpgMateriality. Material Force. Material temptation; sometimes obsession

The Devil is often a great card for business success; hard work and ambition.

Perhaps the most misunderstood of all the major arcana, the Devil is not really "Satan" at all, but Pan the half-goat nature god and/or Dionysius. These are gods of pleasure and abandon, of wild behavior and unbridled desires. This is a card about ambitions; it is also synonymous with temptation and addiction. On the flip side, however, the card can be a warning to someone who is too restrained, someone who never allows themselves to get passionate or messy or wild - or ambitious. This, too, is a form of enslavement. As a person, the Devil can stand for a man of money or erotic power, aggressive, controlling, or just persuasive. This is not to say a bad man, but certainly a powerful man who is hard to resist. The important thing is to remember that any chain is freely worn. In most cases, you are enslaved only because you allow it.
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Old 08-05-2012, 11:25 PM   #24
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The Hermit. No surprises there either.


You are The Hermit

Prudence, Caution, Deliberation.

The Hermit points to all things hidden, such as knowledge and inspiration,hidden enemies. The illumination is from within, and retirement from participation in current events.

The Hermit is a card of introspection, analysis and, well, virginity. You do not desire to socialize; the card indicates, instead, a desire for peace and solitude. You prefer to take the time to think, organize, ruminate, take stock. There may be feelings of frustration and discontent but these feelings eventually lead to enlightenment, illumination, clarity.

The Hermit represents a wise, inspirational person, friend, teacher, therapist. This a person who can shine a light on things that were previously mysterious and confusing.
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Old 08-05-2012, 11:49 PM   #25
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I got the Star too...it matches my avatar!
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Old 08-05-2012, 11:58 PM   #26
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I'm the Angel of Mountains
I have a natural affinity with the use of healing crystals and gems.

Or some shit like, what does it matter no ones applying any scepticism, logic or rationale to any of this.
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:04 AM   #27
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I have a natural affinity with the use of healing crystals and gems.

Or some shit like, what does it matter no ones applying any scepticism, logic or rationale to any of this.
It doesn't matter! Take a chill pill FFS! If you're not interested go to a thread that suits you!
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Old 09-05-2012, 02:57 AM   #28
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....no ones applying any scepticism, logic or rationale to any of this.
What a horrible notion: that fun should require further restriction than it not causing injury to anyone.... Heavens forbid that scepticism, logic or rationale should ever apply to fun.!!!
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:13 AM   #29
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I am often astounded as to why many people in this world today find it in themselves in being extreme and enfeebled by their authorities....that is their dogmas. This includes those who adhere to what today is passed for Science and have made 'rationality' as part of their newly elected Authority. The same is said for the fundamentalist who puts as an authority to what passes today as 'Religion.'


The True Seeker of Knowledge always remains highly objective and balanced and looks at everything from all angles or lenses (whether that be philosophy, spirituality, science etc.)


The True Seeker also understands that the symbolism of a thesis is decorative and is not subjected to the framework of what passes as Science/skepticism/ and rationality.

Though of course this does not mean that skepticism and rationality should be abandoned, they are certainly needed in the Illuminated proccess, but this does not mean that it is a framework that should be applied to everything as that itself seems illogical.

Is skepticism and rationality applied to ART a logical framework of understanding? By its very intention it seems highly unlikely.

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Old 09-05-2012, 05:25 AM   #30
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Yeah... I just think this thread is a bit of fun... Can't we just have it that way? Fun?
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Well, damn.
Me too. Which suits me being in the music field. Let me quote it again:

Beauty, happiness, pleasure, success, luxury, dissipation.

The Empress is associated with Venus, the feminine planet, so it represents, beauty, charm, pleasure, luxury, and delight. You may be good at home decorating, art or anything to do with making things beautiful.

The Empress is a creator, be it creation of life, of romance, of art or business. While the Magician is the primal spark, the idea made real, and the High Priestess is the one who gives the idea a form, the Empress is the womb where it gestates and grows till it is ready to be born. This is why her symbol is Venus, goddess of beautiful things as well as love. Even so, the Empress is more Demeter, goddess of abundance, then sensual Venus. She is the giver of Earthly gifts, yet at the same time, she can, in anger withhold, as Demeter did when her daughter, Persephone, was kidnapped. In fury and grief, she kept the Earth barren till her child was returned to her.
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:58 PM   #32
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I am often astounded as to why many people in this world today find it in themselves in being extreme and enfeebled by their authorities....that is their dogmas. This includes those who adhere to what today is passed for Science and have made 'rationality' as part of their newly elected Authority. The same is said for the fundamentalist who puts as an authority to what passes today as 'Religion.'


The True Seeker of Knowledge always remains highly objective and balanced and looks at everything from all angles or lenses (whether that be philosophy, spirituality, science etc.)


The True Seeker also understands that the symbolism of a thesis is decorative and is not subjected to the framework of what passes as Science/skepticism/ and rationality.

Though of course this does not mean that skepticism and rationality should be abandoned, they are certainly needed in the Illuminated proccess, but this does not mean that it is a framework that should be applied to everything as that itself seems illogical.

Is skepticism and rationality applied to ART a logical framework of understanding? By its very intention it seems highly unlikely.
And That is called assumption and of coarse that is not the mindset of a true seeker... They do not assume they find the truth before they assume it...

In logic an assumption is a proposition that is taken for granted, as if it were true based upon presupposition without preponderance of the facts...

As classically conceived, an axiom is a premise so evident as to be accepted as true without controversy; it is better known and more firmly believed than the conclusion.

ART COMES FROM THE HEART AND THAT IS A TRUE STARTING POINT...

Your assumption leaves you short of a true conclusion... So a truth seeker you are not... Your truth is based upon assumptions... Your Conclusion is false as is your statement...

TRUTH HAS NO ASSUMPTIONS NOTHING IS TAKEN FOR GRANTED ALL IS TESTED AND CONFIRMED NOTHING LEFT UNCOVERED... Every Dot Connects unlike your sciences of assumptions... WHICH MAKES A LOT OF ASSES AND LOTS OF LOST TRUTH...



The Word ART... ABBA REVEALS TRUTH... KNOWING THE WORD GIVES ONE A TRUE STARTING POINT... IT IS A DECORATED WORD AND THERE FOR PROVES THE FRAMEWORK IS THERE AND THE INTENTION IS THERE... JUST BY IT"S NAME...

AND TRUE FUN IS THE CONCLUSION... FOR THE MASTER PIECE HIDDEN WITHIN THE ART OF ALL THOSE THAT SEEK IT... THE FRAMEWORK OF PERFECTION ...

Art is a term that describes a diverse range of human activities and the products of those activities, but is most often understood to refer to painting, film, photography, sculpture, and other visual media. Music, theatre, dance, literature, and interactive media are included in a broader definition of art or the arts. Until the 17th century, art referred to any skill or mastery and was not differentiated from crafts or sciences, but in modern usage the fine arts are distinguished from acquired skills in general.

Your modern day interpretation is why so many never master the ART OF TRUTH... And run on at the mouth with un-logical assumptions of false conclusions... ART-LESS... HEARTLESS... BY A FALSE START... CLUELESS...

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Chip1 here is very similar to the gentleman on the other thread (whose names interesting enough rhymes very well together.)

And just like that other person, this person has opted to form extrapolations and false pre-conceived notions, and ironically enough false assumptions (something the person seems to form a baseless argument for that account).

Nonetheless, this sermon of yours to 'prove me wrong' with downright egoic hostility, tells me that this argument of yours is rooted in Egoic assertion and therefore does not incite any inspiration within myself to even counter it.

The reason....

a) You repeated many of things I said through paraphrasing.


b) Your argument is full of ironies and contradictions


c) Because it is obvious that your argument is based on egoic assertion and false assumptions rather then any genuine curiosity.


d) I have no interest to carry an argument based on your initial post of personal jabs and name-calling, it seems to me to be rather fruitless and a complete waste of energy.

You can counter this post as much as you want for further re-inforcement of your lower ego and give it a "final word", that's fine by me.

Good day.

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Old 09-05-2012, 09:51 PM   #34
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You are The Hermit

Prudence, Caution, Deliberation.


The Hermit points to all things hidden, such as knowledge and inspiration,hidden enemies. The illumination is from within, and retirement from participation in current events.

The Hermit is a card of introspection, analysis and, well, virginity. You do not desire to socialize; the card indicates, instead, a desire for peace and solitude. You prefer to take the time to think, organize, ruminate, take stock. There may be feelings of frustration and discontent but these feelings eventually lead to enlightenment, illumination, clarity.

The Hermit represents a wise, inspirational person, friend, teacher, therapist. This a person who can shine a light on things that were previously mysterious and confusing


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Not surprised at all; I have felt a connection (bond?) to the hermit since I was a kid.
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Chip1 here is very similar to the gentleman on the other thread (whose names interesting enough rhymes very well together.)

And just like that other person, this person has opted to form extrapolations and false pre-conceived notions, and ironically enough false assumptions (something the person seems to form a baseless argument for that account).

Nonetheless, this sermon of yours to 'prove me wrong' with downright egoic hostility, tells me that this argument of yours is rooted in Egoic assertion and therefore does not incite any inspiration within myself to even counter it.

The reason....

a) You repeated many of things I said through paraphrasing.


b) Your argument is full of ironies and contradictions


c) Because it is obvious that your argument is based on egoic assertion and false assumptions rather then any genuine curiosity.


d) I have no interest to carry an argument based on your initial post of personal jabs and name-calling, it seems to me to be rather fruitless and a complete waste of energy.

You can counter this post as much as you want for further re-inforcement of your lower ego and give it a "final word", that's fine by me.

Good day.
The Word ART... ABBA REVEALS TRUTH... KNOWING THE WORD GIVES ONE A TRUE STARTING POINT... IT IS A DECORATED WORD AND THERE FOR PROVES THE FRAMEWORK IS THERE AND THE INTENTION IS THERE... JUST BY IT"S NAME...

AND TRUE FUN IS THE CONCLUSION... FOR THE MASTER PIECE HIDDEN WITHIN THE ART OF ALL THOSE THAT SEEK IT... THE FRAMEWORK OF PERFECTION ...

Like your catch all phrase EGOIC... Everyone's Got One Including Christ he showed his when people were being told and sold on false art...

I stand by these words for I know the true meaning behind them before it was changed into today's controlled and perceived to be as it was in the good days of simplicity...

Base-Less... Brotherly Love Is The Foundation Based On Solid Ground... The Ground Of Truth... There is no argument it is undeniable...

It Proves The Art Work Behind The Master Piece...



No Argument Here... NAH...

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Old 25-05-2012, 07:46 PM   #36
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The High Priestess? Dunno what it says about me though :/
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Old 25-05-2012, 08:28 PM   #37
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Look at that site http://www.ata-tarot.com/resource/cards/
....maybe it helps a little. Or google *Tarot Cards Meaning* maybe you'll find better sites.
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The Emperor

The second leg of the Body-Mind-Spirit triad is the Emperor, representing the power of the mind to shape the world. Such action does not take place at the command of the will, but through the command of the spoken or written word. The Emperor is the representation - and the ruler - of the structured and regulated world. This is an ideal world like the Empress', though one that is not always as beautiful or lavish. But just because it is more harsh does not mean it is any less necessary to enlightenment; on the contrary, it is completely necessary to balance Mind and Body, male and female.

The Emperor is the opposite of the Empress in many ways. She is the Mother, he is the archetypal Father, wise in the ways of the world and knowledgeable of how to live as part of a structure along with everyone else. The Emperor does have a strong and powerful heart, as every father should, but he shows this side of himself through the imposition of strict guidelines and rules, as most fathers do. If anything he is even more protective than the Empress, because he has created order from chaos and wishes nothing to disturb that order. Underneath his royal robes hides the suit of armor which he proudly wears when defending those under his protection.

The Emperor teaches us many things, the first of which being that every rule has an application and a reason for being. If we can understand this, then his world may not seem so restrictive after all. In fact, all restriction is ultimately for your own good, because without the law and order that this card so powerfully symbolizes, the world would fall into anarchy. Government and law both draw their power from him, but unlike the governmental figures that we hear so much about in modern times, the Emperor cannot be corrupted by power. He rules like King Arthur, who brought together the warring powers of England and knit them into the greatest empire the world has ever known.

He is truly the master of his realm, and he rules with a firm hand, but a just one. He will listen to the counsel of others, though the final decision is always his. War is one of his many tools and he will not hesitate to use violence to protect those he cares about. The privileged few who are subject to his protection always repay him with the loyalty and respect he deserves. But the Emperor's power does not only extend to the controlling of nations. He is also the father, the male role model who offers advice, sets direction and brings security. He takes what he has learned, and passes it on to the next generation, so someday they can be as wise and powerful as he is.

Any of the Major Arcana can represent people, but the Emperor is the kind of energy that often manifests in the form of a person. Obviously all kinds of leaders and fathers will harbor some of his influence, but he can also show someone who acts like a father by setting tone and imposing structure. He is a regulating force and thus associated with the government, bureaucracy and the legal system; his appearance often indicates an encouter with one or more of these systems. The Emperor can also personify the assumption of power and control, by you or someone close to you. If you are the one in power, take care that you always use it wisely.

Above all else, the Emperor shows the benefits of structure and logic ruling over the emotions and lesser desires. Often, domination of the mind over the heart is not wanted, but in some cases is it necessary and even welcomed. When hard choices must be made it's important to maintain your concentration and focus, and this is something the energy of the Emperor allows you to do. When he shows a part of you, let that part of you manifest and take control. Enjoy the assertiveness and confidence it brings. Forge ahead and do what you know is best. If you can master yourself then you should have little problem mastering the world and all the things in it.
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Right on the money but a terrible image for it!



You are The Hierophant

Divine Wisdom. Manifestation. Explanation. Teaching.

All things relating to education, patience, help from superiors.The Hierophant is often considered to be a Guardian Angel.

The Hierophant's purpose is to bring the spiritual down to Earth. Where the High Priestess between her two pillars deals with realms beyond this Earth, the Hierophant (or High Priest) deals with worldly problems. He is well suited to do this because he strives to create harmony and peace in the midst of a crisis. The Hierophant's only problem is that he can be stubborn and hidebound. At his best, he is wise and soothing, at his worst, he is an unbending traditionalist.
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You are The Tower

Ambition, fighting, war, courage. Destruction, danger, fall, ruin.

The Tower represents war, destruction, but also spiritual renewal. Plans are disrupted. Your views and ideas will change as a result.

The Tower is a card about war, a war between the structures of lies and the lightning flash of truth. The Tower stands for "false concepts and institutions that we take for real." You have been shaken up; blinded by a shocking revelation. It sometimes takes that to see a truth that one refuses to see. Or to bring down beliefs that are so well constructed. What's most important to remember is that the tearing down of this structure, however painful, makes room for something new to be built.
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