Potential False Flag On July 5th? Missing Nuke

[solitaire]

Originally Posted by stompk

OK, I'm not usually in the habit of making predictions on specific dates, but when I see a potential red flag, I feel I should make an effort to point it out,
if for anything, make it look even more suspicious if it happens to come true.

"A nuclear weapon that wasn’t supposed to exist, a single 500 kiloton hydrogen bomb, one of four being tracked, was seen being loaded at the German port of Bemerhaven, Germany.

The groups assisting in what we were informed was a counter-terrorism surveillance operation were the American NSA, British MI 6, the Office of Naval Intelligence and the British Royal Navy. The “device” was loaded onto a Germany built “Dolphin” submarine and left the harbour doing 7.5 knots."


http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/04...-from-germany/

My prediction stems from the last line. Why would they include the insignificant detail of 7.5 knots? I read it as July 5th, especially since the
military likes to put the month first, then day...

Just sayin.......

It strikes me as a strange story to surface, but I do know that the newer variants of the Dolphin-class submarines that the Germans were building for the Israeli Navy were to use Air-Independent propulsion systems so that the Diesel-Electric subs did not have to surface periodically to fumigate. Perhaps this one is the first of these and it is being reported this way to scare the enemies of Israel; they now have a stealthy submarine that can submerge beneath the sea and stay down there for a very long time, ready to deliver nuclear strikes at any time. Also, what is strange is that the yield of Hydrogen bombs is usually measured in mt (megatons), not kt (kilotons).

[dude111]

Originally Posted by jesuitsdidit

remember they r losing this battle and at some point they cd try sth crazy

I think if it hadnt been FOR THE INTERNET all these years,THIER PLAN WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH FURTHER ALONG @ THIS POINT THAN IT IS!!!!!

So YES i think they are losing,but we dont know TO WHAT EXTENT!

[necessaryevil]

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[ritchs]

I’m just trying to imagine the destructive power of a 500 kiloton hydrogen bomb. As far as I can gather, it could completely obliterate Atlanta, Georgia and its suburbs, with a swath of deadly radiation eastward for hundreds of miles
Ref:
http://www.ij-healthgeographics.com/content/6/1/5

Hiroshima's "Little Boy" gravity bomb 12–15 kilo tons 50–63 Gun type uranium-235 fission bomb (the first of the two nuclear weapons that have been used in warfare).

Nagasaki's "Fat Man" gravity bomb 20–22 kilo tons 84–92 Implosion type plutonium-239 fission bomb (the second of the two nuclear weapons used in warfare).

When I worked in the service in West Germany during 1969 along the Czech border, our 155mm Howitzers could shoot limited-yield tactical nuclear weapons 72 tons of TNT, really a very small payload, but quite huge compared to WW2 artillery. I believe the max range was 15 miles for the 155mm Howitzer and 20 miles+ for the 175mm Howitzers

The energy contained in 1 megaton of TNT is enough to power the average American household (in the year 2007) for 103,474 years

The total global nuclear arsenal is about 30,000 nuclear warheads with a destructive capacity of 5,000 megatons or 5 gigatons (5,000 million tons) of TNT. When a nuclear weapon detonates, a fireball occurs with temperatures similar to those at the centre of the Sun

Electromagnetic Pulse
http://www.futurescience.com/emp.html

Today, if just one of these 500 kiloton bombs like the Mark 18 were detonated 300 miles above the central United States, the economy of the country would be essentially destroyed instantaneously. Very little of the country's electrical or electronic infrastructure would still be functional. This is not to say that every device would be destroyed, but the interdependence of different electrical and electronic infrastructures makes it possible to stop nearly all economic activity with only limited damage to critical infrastructures. It would likely be months or years before the electrical grid could be repaired because of the destruction of large numbers of transformers in the electric power grid that are no longer made in the United States. Several countries today have the ability to produce a weapon similar to this 1952 bomb, and send it to the necessary altitude. (England tested a single-stage weapon with a yield of 720 kilotons, called Orange Herald, on May 31, 1957.) The number of countries with this ability will undoubtedly be increasing in the coming years.

Survivability
as proximity to the blast and the direction of the wind carrying fallout. Death is highly likely and radiation poisoning is almost certain if one is close enough within the radius of the blast (for example 3 to 4 miles for a 1 megaton atmospheric blast) Blast winds may reach several hundred kilometers per hour.

An afterthought: two of these bombs could change the world overnight. The Suez canal and the Panama canals could be sealed tight, undoing decades of work building them and thus altering shipping lanes to go round the cape or the horn. Imagine

[necessaryevil]

Why guess?

http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

[ritchs]

Originally Posted by necessaryevil

Why guess?

http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

Awesome, I bookmarked that one ! Good Find~

[jesuitsdidit]

Originally Posted by ritchs

It would likely be months or years before the electrical grid could be repaired because of the destruction of large numbers of transformers in the electric power grid that are no longer made in the United States.

hmmm
emp take out computers
now that wd b useful to tptb.

[velma]

Originally Posted by joho

perhaps the daily mail knows something we dont going by that picture lol

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-app-that.html

Dr Wellerstein thinks it's funny: he says, humour is a good defence given the dark subject matter. So let's all laugh at the possibilty of nuclear annihilation.

[stompk]

Potentially relevant info.

The U.S. Air Force is quietly assembling the world’s most powerful air-to-air fighting team at bases near Iran. Stealthy F-22 Raptors on their first front-line deployment have joined a potent mix of active-duty and Air National Guard F-15 Eagles, including some fitted with the latest advanced radars. The Raptor-Eagle team has been honing special tactics for clearing the air of Iranian fighters in the event of war.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012...gn=Interesting

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by jesuitsdidit

or May 7th?






btw heres the article in OP


Raw Reports, Nuclear Threat from Germany (updated)

pic“Dolphin” submarine GERMANS GIVE THESE OUT LIKE PARTY FAVORS, NUKES INCLUDED IT SEEMS

6 Decades of Deception

By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

I will keep this short as possible. A single nuclear weapon has “gone missing” as of last week, one of four missing but this one “more missing” than the others.
...


YouTube - Veterans Today -

Now, to put this is American English.

A nuclear weapon that wasn’t supposed to exist, a single 500 kiloton hydrogen bomb, one of four being tracked, was seen being loaded at the German port of Bemerhaven, Germany.

The groups assisting in what we were informed was a counter-terrorism surveillance operation were the American NSA, British MI 6, the Office of Naval Intelligence and the British Royal Navy. The “device” was loaded onto a Germany built “Dolphin” submarine and left the harbour doing 7.5 knots.

The submarine disappeared while being tracked by every sophisticated device NATO seems to be able to own or borrow.

At least one of those from among the listed agencies was arrested by the local police force in Oxford, their electronic surveillance gear siezed, were confined for 12 hours despite being above arrest and detention as a senior NATO intelligence officer.

Attempts to track the sub in the busy harbour were in vain and it is unknown what the nationality of the crew were or the destination, whether the UK, the US or some place in the Middle East.

What we do know is that Germany and other NATO nations, in a highly disputed exception to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, had held 182 such weapons until all had supposedly been given back to the United States in 2005.

We now know this to be untrue. There are several possible scenarios:

Germany is a nuclear power in violation of international treaties and both Germany and the US are lying
The German government is in violation of international treaties and is selling or transfering nuclear weapons to unknown third parties
Terrorists have stolen a nuclear weapon that Germany was holding illegally
Germany is involved in a terror plot aimed at a third party, Iran, the United Kingdom or the United States
The submarine in question may or may not be one Germany is giving to Israel, this one with a “special enhancement” which, as we had questioned earlier, might be used against Iran, the United Kingdom or United States.

We know the British government at some levels, some departments, are aware of this action and are responding with retribution against their own intelligence services. This seems to be an indication that some authority within Britain seems to have gone rogue, certainly the Thames Valley Police, possibly the Home Office and we can’t help but want to take a long hard look at David Cameron and his many mysterious meetings with Rupert Murdoch, the “not very Australian” ultra-nationalist/Likudist Israeli who stands somewhat accused of endless criminal acts or perhaps not.

Nobody in Britain actually knows.

Is someone planning to blow something up somewhere? Are these just simply Germany boys on a lark, stolen submarine, borrrowed illegal nuclear weapon, kind of a prank?

Then again, we have the Bush administration. Assurances were made that all such weapons had been out of German hands 7 years ago. We now have direct evidence, eyewitnesses, that indicate that the US failed to follow the provisions of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty that it is using as a pretext to threaten Iran with violations of.

Oddly, Israel never signed the treaty and is, by conventional standards, considered a “rogue state.”

A fuller accounting indicates that the warheads may not be American but were of Soviet design. We know the number to be four.

One has been traced to a location inside the London itself. Other locations for this one are likely New York, Lower Manhattan for a December delivery, tuned down to 100 kt, perhaps to pass off as another plane crash. Mombasa and other African ports are on the lists as well. There is a very nasty controversy between US intelligence agencies on information sharing as to this issue. As this is an actual operation, not a “rumor,” attempts to keep secrets or mislead just aren’t going to work anymore, as this article has proven.

Weapons of this type are generally located through use of specialized aircraft, in this case, the Boeing Sentinal E3D. These are highly modified 707 aircraft. The British have 7 of these operating out of RAF Waddington. They were placed on “mechanical fault standown” on April 14. Who would have thought all these planes were preparing to discombobulate?


YouTube - RAF Waddington -

We find this “coincidence” rather curious and call for an official inquiry into the accidental and sudden failure of Britain’s most valuable air assets.

The individuals and sources of this story will, at their request, not be credited. If anyone out there if familiar with the radiation signature of an aging Soviet 1/2 megaton nuclear warhead, we would be glad to print that information, hoping the appropriate authorities might stumble upon it here.

Additionally, if anyone spots a Dolphin submarine, please give us a ring also, same reasons.

The threat is not from occupied Germany, rather than from the occupiers who loaded up these despicable weapons on the blackmailed dolphin.
British and US intel have been around and closely directed this cargo.
Formally, Germany is forbidden to have nukes.

Originally Posted by jesuitsdidit

hmmm
emp take out computers
now that wd b useful to tptb.

Nope, any crucial server infrastructure is deep underground.
You forget about the purpose of the internet... communication to survive a nuclear strike, which includes an EMP triggered by a nuke.

DoD Networking Model

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by solitaire

It strikes me as a strange story to surface, but I do know that the newer variants of the Dolphin-class submarines that the Germans were building for the Israeli Navy were to use Air-Independent propulsion systems so that the Diesel-Electric subs did not have to surface periodically to fumigate. Perhaps this one is the first of these and it is being reported this way to scare the enemies of Israel; they now have a stealthy submarine that can submerge beneath the sea and stay down there for a very long time, ready to deliver nuclear strikes at any time. Also, what is strange is that the yield of Hydrogen bombs is usually measured in mt (megatons), not kt (kilotons).

Dolphins are the most sophisticated non nuclear stealth subs on this planet.
They can be refitted to carry missiles, which would be against German and armament restriction laws.
They can operate in very shallow waters, literally being able to watch the sun worshippers at the beach from just meters away.
So the red sea is most likely the area of operation of the zionists, near Eilat.





They use what is called "Brennstoffzelle"(hydrogen cell) in German, so yes, they are air-independent.
On top of that, I hope the Israelis don't also get the Barracuda torpedoes, the fastest super-cavitating torpedoes atm, with about a velocity of 400km/h.
Only Russia and Iran operate similar torpedoes.

The idea of a hyrogen drive roots in German WWII uboat designs, the Britsh got their hand on after occupation.
Originally, the concept was a hydrogen-peroxide cell, and a thing called Walter-Schnorchel.

[stompk]

CSG 8's flagship, USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) (IKE), with the seven squadrons of Carrier Air Wing 7 embarked, departed Naval Station Norfolk, along with the guided missile destroyer USS Winston S. Churchill (DDG 81) and USS Jason Dunham (DDG 109).

The Mayport, Fla.-based guided missile cruiser USS Hue City (CG 66) and the guided missile destroyer USS Farragut (DDG 99) left their homeport in Mayport, Fla., as well, and will join Eisenhower as the strike group transits the Atlantic Ocean.

Carrier Strike Group Eight has spent the last few months successfully completing a series of complex training events and certifications.

http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=67938

Just in time for the 4th of July.

[stompk]

Originally Posted by tinyint

The idea of a hyrogen drive roots in German WWII uboat designs, the Britsh got their hand on after occupation.
Originally, the concept was a hydrogen-peroxide cell, and a thing called Walter-Schnorchel.

I read up on that a bit, interesting stuff! Thanks for pointing it out.

[stompk]

The United States has quietly moved significant military reinforcements into the Persian Gulf to deter the Iranian military from any possible attempt to shut the Strait of Hormuz and to increase the number of fighter jets capable of striking deep into Iran if the standoff over its nuclear program escalates.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/03/wo...pagewanted=all

Just in time.

[spellbound]

Originally Posted by arcyclus

How about the nuke being put into an off shore trench and detonated to cause a huge tsunami like they did last March off the coast of Japan, or the Boxer day 2004 trench nuke tsunami that killed 250,000 people.

I agree with arcy on this....and my guess is the target will be Japan again.....

on July 5......{rather than evacuate Tokyo why not depopulate it with a big quake..//// it will save a lot of money on relocating millions of people.....}

PS...I'm not joking......

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Tokyo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Tokyo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[joho]

Originally Posted by velma

Dr Wellerstein thinks it's funny: he says, humour is a good defence given the dark subject matter. So let's all laugh at the possibilty of nuclear annihilation.

yes your right doom gloom and fear is the way to go

[wakeup2nwo]

Originally Posted by stompk

http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=67938

Just in time for the 4th of July.

Originally Posted by stompk

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/03/wo...pagewanted=all

Just in time.

This kinda fits right in with your theory.

Terror alert for U.S. air carriers

By Daphne A. Young
Atlanta, GA —

U-S Intelligence officials are sending out alerts to airlines across the country about threats being made by a branch of the terrorist group, Al Qaeda.

Whether the threat has anything to do with the upcoming 4th of July holiday or the Olympics, authorities haven’t figure out.

CBS Correspondent, John Miller says authorities tell him they are focusing on a Norwegian man, who they believe was chosen and trained by the terror branch in Yeman to blow up a U-S air carrier.

Airlines across the nation are being advised of the terror threat and security at U.S. airports is expected to be heightened throughout the summer months.


http://www.wsbradio.com/news/news/lo...arriers/nPkbW/

[stompk]

Originally Posted by wakeup2nwo

This kinda fits right in with your theory.

Terror alert for U.S. air carriers

US air carrier, or a US aircraft carrier?

[fairyprincess]

I've heard someone on this thread that they could use it to take out a city on an estuary.

I live in the uk town of hull. It's on the banks of one of the worlds largest estuaries.

I have had several dream where the city is engulfed by water.

A lot of my other dreams involve me walking along the river.

I don't like to bang on about it, but I've had at least two dreams come true.

Just saying........

[oiram]

Would there be any nice deep parking spots for a Submarine around London area?

What sort of tsunami could be created with a baby like this?


Any data?

What was the info .... they having 200,000 FIMA type plastic coffins ready at the Olympics. >>> Hope that's enough then?


Well perfect..... why not we talking about psychopaths right. This means everything is possible. Who & what created the Indonesian Tsunami?

So what was it the last time 250,000 wiped of the earth on the last tsunami test well 200,000 coffins its close & only 50,000 short.


My posting from 2009>>> just coincidental they mentioned England in there article???

Originally Posted by oiram

Pentagon has more than 10,000 nukes in its deadly arsenal!!

The Pentagon has more than 10,000 deadly nukes in its arsenal. Each hydrogen bomb is 50 times more powerful than the atomic bomb that fell on Hiroshima, Japan in 1945.

One such bomb strategically placed could devastate a country the size of England. Hitler had the H-bomb in 1945 and the Pentagon took Hitler's H-bomb to the U.S. and tested it in Alaska on April 1, 1946.

Theoretically, the Pentagon 9 megaton W-53 thermonuclear warhead shown on the left, could easily be encased in a small 'lookalike' saturation diving chamber similar to that on the right, to protect it from the massive 10,000 pounds per square inch pressures at the bottom of the Sumatran Trench. The whole armored package would weigh less than five tons, allowing it to be slipped over the stern of any oil rig supply vessel, of which there are more than 300 in Asia alone. Who would even notice?

Where will the Pentagon strike next with their "earthquakes" and tsunamis???

We don't know how many bombs the Pentagon set off under the ocean but they must have been substantial. Where will the Pentagon strike next with their weapons of mass destruction?Nobody is safe from the those deadly Fatima Crusaders!!


Editor's Notes

Dr. Edward Teller studied in Germany under the German physicist Dr. Werner Heisenberg—the real "father of the H-bomb." Teller came to the U.S. in 1935 under a Rockefeller Foundation scholarship:

"Still supported by Rockefeller Foundation grants, Teller went on to spend a year in Britain at the University of London, studying and working under Dr. F. G. Donnan, the noted biochemist. Then, having become widely known in scientific circles through his work on the Rockefeller Foundation, Teller attracted the attention of two U.S. universities. Princeton offered Teller a fellowship; George Washington (in Washington, D.C.) offered him a full professorship. Teller accepted the latter offer, and in 1935, moved to the United States, where he has lived ever since."(Shepley, The Hydrogen Bomb, pp. 43-44).

The Rockefeller Foundation also founded the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Physics in Berlin in Jan. 1938. That was where research on the German H-bomb was carried out.... In case Hitler lost WW II, Rockefeller had a backup plan of using his Pentagon to carry on his fanatical Fatima Crusade against Russia!!

In Dec. 1938, German physicists Hahn and Strassman announced the discovery of fission in uranium. In March 1939, Germany invaded Czechoslovakia in order to control that country's uranium mines. In Sept. 1939, World War II officially began with the invasion of Poland.

Why would Hitler begin a world war over control of uranium and then not make an all out effort to develop the ultimate weapon—the H-bomb??
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils...ar_tsunami.htm