Disclosure of the Truth

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by shirogaijin

There plan for being in the positions there in?, if that's what your asking it's already well known, a complete totalitarian police state, it's the future that George Orwell depicted in the book '1984' and what George Lucas envisioned in his his first film THX 1138.

This is not going to be the fate of the human race, if you take the time to read this thread from the beginning and pay attention to the videos and audio I have added to support this you will understand more clearly.

I think you confuse the two competing agendas.
Your posts prove it.
The earth cabal, the jewish racist supremacists want a centralized government, centralized resources and so on, only to fight with the combined resources of earth a war against their eon old enemy.
It is no coincidence the UN use masonic/communist symbols, and basically continue the Bolshevik revolution adapted to modern needs.
You suffer from Stockholm syndrome, if you basically back the earth cabal.
They are the dangerous and nutty ones.

[shirogaijin]

Originally Posted by tinyint

BS
Any proof for that?
So you basically peddle jew propaganda of the next century?

The Germans got their technology from studying ancient scripture and writings, and sending expeditions to eg Tibet, South America or Antarctica.




Nope, if any Et connection in US, then it'd be the "greys" which are said to be bio-robots by uhm... tada... the draco, reptiles..
The tuth is, the US/UK criminals sold out to the devil, which they naively thought they'd be able to control.



International socialists, aka communists, the jew cabal again.
It is them who drive the earthly agenda, provable since 1913.
FED... Bolshevik "revolution"(terror)... now they returned home to US/UK.
You know, the Japanese princess actually tells you stuff, their German allies have known for centuries.
She talks a bit Rosicrucian.

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost....0&postcount=46

Now this is getting tiresome quick, if your not going to pay attention to the information I have presented then I'm forced to skip straight into it, if I miss a dot which is what I have been trying to avoid please forgive me.

I am going to assume you know of the Montauk Project and dive straight in if you don't know here's an explanation by David Wilcock.

David Wilcock - Stargate, Project Looking Glass & Contact - 2012 - YouTube

David Wilcock - Stargate, Project Looking Glass & Contact - 2012 - YouTube

"Other information on this video is the discussion of various Extra-Terrestrial Bases and the involvement of the Pleiadians in the US and Germany.

Reports confirmed by Billy Mier, stated that space-time technology was exchanged by a certain race of Pleiadians with Hitler in Germany during 1933 to 1934. When Nicola Tesla claimed that he was in contact with some races of Extra-Terrestrials, the government asked if it were possible to meet with the Aliens. Tesla said he could arrange it. After the presidents initial shock, they made arrangements to meet with the Pleiadians, and then with the Grays.

The Grays offered similar technology in exchange for abducting humans and doing genetic experiments. The US Government decided to work with the Grays and the Pleiadians went to Germany to work out a treaty with Hitler.

Hitler got involved when a saucer crashed in the Bavarian Alps in 1936. This was a head start for them when they dismantled the ship and found some new technology. Hitler apparently gave up people from the concentration camps in exchange for technology and that no Germans would be abducted. After several years of working together, the Pleiadians decided that they could no longer work with Germany and pulled out in 1941, and would no longer support Hitler.

The video goes on to say that some of the saucer crashes may have been orchestrated as a method of contact to get the higher government interested, and to pull out interest of the keys people. Al explains how Atlantis was destroyed by created international earthquakes, and after which two humans and one from the Reptilian race formed the early secret societies leading to the ultimate development of the Illuminati."

This is a summary of the information from whistle-blowers from the Montauk Project.

Link Montauk Project: Second Underground Video-Part 2

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by shirogaijin

Now this is getting tiresome quick, if your not going to pay attention to the information I have presented then I'm forced to skip straight into it, if I miss a dot which is what I have been trying to avoid please forgive me.

I am going to assume you know of the Montauk Project and dive straight in if you don't know here's an explanation by David Wilcock.

David Wilcock - Stargate, Project Looking Glass & Contact - 2012 - YouTube

"Other information on this video is the discussion of various Extra-Terrestrial Bases and the involvement of the Pleiadians in the US and Germany.

Reports confirmed by Billy Mier, stated that space-time technology was exchanged by a certain race of Pleiadians with Hitler in Germany during 1933 to 1934. When Nicola Tesla claimed that he was in contact with some races of Extra-Terrestrials, the government asked if it were possible to meet with the Aliens. Tesla said he could arrange it. After the presidents initial shock, they made arrangements to meet with the Pleiadians, and then with the Grays.

The Grays offered similar technology in exchange for abducting humans and doing genetic experiments. The US Government decided to work with the Grays and the Pleiadians went to Germany to work out a treaty with Hitler.

Hitler got involved when a saucer crashed in the Bavarian Alps in 1936. This was a head start for them when they dismantled the ship and found some new technology. Hitler apparently gave up people from the concentration camps in exchange for technology and that no Germans would be abducted. After several years of working together, the Pleiadians decided that they could no longer work with Germany and pulled out in 1941, and would no longer support Hitler.

The video goes on to say that some of the saucer crashes may have been orchestrated as a method of contact to get the higher government interested, and to pull out interest of the keys people. Al explains how Atlantis was destroyed by created international earthquakes, and after which two humans and one from the Reptilian race formed the early secret societies leading to the ultimate development of the Illuminati.

The underground reserve gold bases that were produced by alchemy was performed through the chemical manipulation of matter. Some elements, such as plutonium, were man made elements created by alchemy. These and other elements did not exist in the periodic table."

This is a summary of the information from whistle-blowers from the Montauk Project.

Link Montauk Project: Second Underground Video-Part 2

That is the point.
Montauk, the guys around Steward Sverdlov... I would be very careful believing them without checking some background

He was born in Nizhny Novgorod to Jewish parents. His father was an engraver. His brother was adopted by Maxim Gorky and became better-known as Zinovy Peshkov. He joined the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party in 1902, and then the Bolshevik faction, supporting Vladimir Lenin. He was involved in the 1905 revolution.

After his arrest in June 1906, for most of the time until 1917 he was either imprisoned or exiled. During the period 1914–1916 he was in internal exile in Turukhansk, Siberia, along with Joseph Stalin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Sverdlov

Yes, I guess you miss here and there some important dots.
You have been led to believe in the "nazi" want to rule the world nonsense, while it is their enemies who want that operating under a false flag. Since decades, I might add.

[king triad]

This really isn't in Today's news?..

[shirogaijin]

This has gone way of topic, I never intended to hang on one single aspect of this hugely complex war on humanity, The fact is there are good guys and bad guys and were all left in the dark to suffer in silence because of the conspiracy of silence.

There is so much disinformation every where but it all says the same thing over and over again, the Pleiadians are the light and the Greys are of the dark.

Even the FBI has disclosed some information on the Pleiadians, go to page 22 of this disclosed document, it's in bullet points.

Skip to 15.20 on the video below to hear Former President Reagans ET briefing, which also states that higher dimensional beings are here, some benevolent and some malevolent.

President Reagan's ET Briefing - YouTube

President Reagan's ET Briefing - YouTube

[patb]

Originally Posted by shirogaijin

We as a collective didn't choose to be this way, we are all indoctrinated from childhood into the world of labels and boxes, the religion of celebrity and materialism, were programmed with fear porn news and subliminal messaging on a daily basis, we live in social engineered conditions that breed crime by design but even with the bull shit that surrounds us every human knows there's something wrong with the world, people say it's the real world, it's no where near the truth, the hate between religions was designed and instigated by the Illuminati, the loathing between the haves and have nots, the ignorance and arrogance is lack of understanding because we have all been lied to and people believe and protect these lies.

"The Matrix is a system, That system is our enemy but when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters, The very minds of the people we are trying to save but until we do, these people are still a part of that system, and that makes them our enemy.

You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it." - Morpheus

Wish i had a dollar for every time i've heard or read what you have written in your first paragraph.

You stated in the post i originally quoted, that '...in fact we are one of the very oldest races in the cosmos.'
If this is true, we must be one of the thickest also, to keep being 'manipulated' as we apparently are

And then you quote from a movie. I realise many people believe there is truth in this particular one, but who knows for sure?

[valens]

Originally Posted by patb

Wish i had a dollar for every time i've heard or read what you have written in your first paragraph.

You stated in the post i originally quoted, that '...in fact we are one of the very oldest races in the cosmos.'
If this is true, we must be one of the thickest also, to keep being 'manipulated' as we apparently are

And then you quote from a movie. I realise many people believe there is truth in this particular one, but who knows for sure?

What I don't get is if we are divine souls, then we are not human, we have only incarnated as humans this time (or however many times), so to say we are an old race means nothing since we are of the divine and infinite and not of a specific race.

As for all the WW2 stuff I have been reluctant to comment since it is so far-out that there is very little actual proof of it (which says something iin itself). Though, Shirogajin, I must ask, where were the Pleadians when John Dee was summoning entities? There are many instances of occultists claiming to do this yet these so-called benefics only intervened in the 40's using, of all people, the guys who gave Hitler the funding to become who he did. They sound confused to me.

[believenothing]

Originally Posted by shirogaijin

This has gone way of topic, I never intended to hang on one single aspect of this hugely complex war on humanity, The fact is there are good guys and bad guys and were all left in the dark to suffer in silence because of the conspiracy of silence.

There is so much disinformation every where but it all says the same thing over and over again, the Pleiadians are the light and the Greys are of the dark.

Even the FBI has disclosed some information on the Pleiadians, go to page 22 of this disclosed document, it's in bullet points.

I've read that before, but it doesn't mention Pleiadians or Greys or opposing factions of 'aliens'. It concerns 'flying saucers' and reinforces what I've come to be convinced regarding UFOs... It says they are ethereal and occupy the same space as we do on another plane. Which likely means that if they are real, in there natural state we would require extrasensory perceptions to detect. That they are not ETs in origin, that they are terrestrial. Considering re-occurring archetypes from mythology, poetry, and artwork, they've always been here.

I'm an amateur-amateur astronomer. I've seen the ISS with my unaided eyes, I can identify all the naked eye planets and know that Venus and Jupiter are pretty darn bright. I've seen many media showers, many shooting stars, the northern lights (from the lower US) and the 'crystals' that accompany it. I know that the horizon can appear to 'bend' things in the sky (or the illusion of things appearing larger). Now the reason I mentioned this is because after 30 years of mostly hearing other people's stories I finally saw UFOs and I'm 100% sure they were none of these things. Bright star-like lights with slight colors moving in and out of formation at impossible speeds. They made no sounds and they 'flipped' off like a light switch turned them off. I was not intoxicated, and others witnessed them too. This was within 100 miles of Wright-Patterson AFB and is called by the locals 'lake Erie UFOs'

Something is out there for sure, but I don't think it's 'out of this world'

[shirogaijin]

Originally Posted by patb

Wish i had a dollar for every time i've heard or read what you have written in your first paragraph.

You stated in the post i originally quoted, that '...in fact we are one of the very oldest races in the cosmos.'
If this is true, we must be one of the thickest also, to keep being 'manipulated' as we apparently are

And then you quote from a movie. I realise many people believe there is truth in this particular one, but who knows for sure?

okay I have had enough of this, Yes man is the thickest race ever and by far the most damn right ignorant, mankind seems unable to accept the truth even when presented with evidence, I mean even whistle blower testimony's from high ranking officers in the military who admit to the vast cover-up conspiracy and yet you still palm it off, of course you believe in psy ops and disinformation but yet you won't even look at information without having to take a great big shit on it before anyone else does.

I have given this thread the information that answers all of your ridiculing if you actually went through the videos and listened to what the whistle blowers like Command Sergeant Robert Dean then you would understand more clearly, David Wilcock and Benjamin Fulford have had insider sources tell them both the Billy Meier case was authentic.

Bob Dean tells you he's met the galactic federation and that the Annunaki walk the halls of the pentagon, the Galactic Federation/Pleiadian High Coucil/Andromeda Council/Nibiruan High Council/Ashtar Command will not let world war 3 happen, there only standing back because of idiots who say I'll believe it when it's on TV because that's how far it has got, you won't acknowledge anything until the bloody white washed fear porn you call news informs you about it.

As for the matrix quote that is exactly how it is, accept it or not I don't care, I've done my best to be informative and enlightening, I spent my time collecting the information to present to anyone who will take the time to step out of the box long enough to wake up.

If your just going to read the summary's I have made and not watch the videos in there entireties then do not continue to insult my intelligence with your bull shit replies, either be helpful or inquisitive, It's your choice to remain ignorant or not but quit replying if it's just to breathe down my neck because it doesn't fit with your programmed concept of the world at large.

[shirogaijin]

Originally Posted by believenothing

I've read that before, but it doesn't mention Pleiadians or Greys or opposing factions of 'aliens'. It concerns 'flying saucers' and reinforces what I've come to be convinced regarding UFOs... It says they are ethereal and occupy the same space as we do on another plane. Which likely means that if they are real, in there natural state we would require extrasensory perceptions to detect. That they are not ETs in origin, that they are terrestrial. Considering re-occurring archetypes from mythology, poetry, and artwork, they've always been here.

This is what I mean, this document is a disclosed document by the FBI, it was once classified, now it's public and you still can't accept the fucking truth for what it is, even though it's in black and white and FBI endorsed you still remain skeptical, oh if it was on TV with some fucking celebrity presenting it you would gladly lap it up but when it's on the FBI's own website as a disclosed document it's looked upon with scrutiny , The document in question doesn't label the Pleiadians and I never mentioned that the greys were in that document, if you re-read page 22, like I said before it's in bullet points so how can you miss it.



The benevolent beings the fbi document are describing are higher dimensional beings, they are members of the family of light existing in the 5th dimension and upwards, planet earth is slowly moving towards the 4th dimension and will finally reach the 5th dimension, we have to evolve spiritually and consciously to move along with gaia during her transition, there will be an awakening moment in time to come, this will make every human being on the face of the earth a fully conscious being, you will become the master of your own mind once again but it has to be a conscious choice to better ones self.

[shirogaijin]

Originally Posted by tinyint

I think you confuse the two competing agendas.
Your posts prove it.
The earth cabal, the jewish racist supremacists want a centralized government, centralized resources and so on, only to fight with the combined resources of earth a war against their eon old enemy.
It is no coincidence the UN use masonic/communist symbols, and basically continue the Bolshevik revolution adapted to modern needs.
You suffer from Stockholm syndrome, if you basically back the earth cabal.
They are the dangerous and nutty ones.

what the fuck.. what have I said that makes people assume I am rooting for the criminal cabal.., I am only highlighting the relevant aspects of the situation to quickly paint the picture for everyone, I never wanted to delve into a certain aspect as I don't want to spend the next 20 years of my life doing so only to be slammed as a nutter for it, I'm trying to keep it simple and easy to comprehend weather you understand is a different matter all together.

Yes they had a master plan to gain complete and total out in the open control, Billy Meier's predictions have all came true except one, Billy predicted there would be a world war 3 but our timeline has been altered since he predicted it, a force has entered the game which the Illuminati never thought it would come to, they believed because they have gotten away with so much already they were destined to be victorious, the highest realms have had enough and have passed the decree to save the human race and planet earth from complete annihilation from other worldly forces.

Honestly, listen to "Project Camelot - Twilight of the old boys network" and the "Teachings of the Pleiadians" please, then take the time to listen to "The end of the space war by Tolec".

Project Camelot - Twilight of the old boys network
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC4t1FEk5LE

Teachings of the Pleiadians
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q50Vhz5BoQ

The end of the space war by Tolec
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKVR-fF8Rbs

[patb]

Originally Posted by shirogaijin

okay I have had enough of this, Yes man is the thickest race ever and by far the most damn right ignorant, mankind seems unable to accept the truth even when presented with evidence, I mean even whistle blower testimony's from high ranking officers in the military who admit to the vast cover-up conspiracy and yet you still palm it off, of course you believe in psy ops and disinformation but yet you won't even look at information without having to take a great big shit on it before anyone else does.

I have given this thread the information that answers all of your ridiculing if you actually went through the videos and listened to what the whistle blowers like Command Sergeant Robert Dean then you would understand more clearly, David Wilcock and Benjamin Fulford have had insider sources tell them both the Billy Meier case was authentic.

Bob Dean tells you he's met the galactic federation and that the Annunaki walk the halls of the pentagon, the Galactic Federation/Pleiadian High Coucil/Andromeda Council/Nibiruan High Council/Ashtar Command will not let world war 3 happen, there only standing back because of idiots who say I'll believe it when it's on TV because that's how far it has got, you won't acknowledge anything until the bloody white washed fear porn you call news informs you about it.

As for the matrix quote that is exactly how it is, accept it or not I don't care, I've done my best to be informative and enlightening, I spent my time collecting the information to present to anyone who will take the time to step out of the box long enough to wake up.

If your just going to read the summary's I have made and not watch the videos in there entireties then do not continue to insult my intelligence with your bull shit replies, either be helpful or inquisitive, It's your choice to remain ignorant or not but quit replying if it's just to breathe down my neck because it doesn't fit with your programmed concept of the world at large.

I'm not ridiculing, just stating my opinion - as you are yours - which you state as the 'truth'.

Just because you read something - no matter who it's written by - does not mean to say it is true.
If it's your truth, good, but surely it is not very 'enlightened' of you to do your block because others challenge you.

I say again, give me irrefutable, in your face proof and then i will believe.
I will not take anything i read or hear anymore as 'truth' for there are a million 'truths' out there.

Oh, and in parting, you have no idea what my 'concept' - programmed or not - of this world is, whereas i can clearly see what your 'programmed concept of the world at large is'.
And all the best with that - which i sincerely mean.

[saint_frankenstein]

Aren't "Pleiadians" supposed to be those blond "Nordic" types? It just seems like a form of white supremacy in disguise. White people will save us! Er...excuse me...white aliens will save us!

[shirogaijin]

Originally Posted by patb

I'm not ridiculing, just stating my opinion - as you are yours - which you state as the 'truth'.

Just because you read something - no matter who it's written by - does not mean to say it is true.
If it's your truth, good, but surely it is not very 'enlightened' of you to do your block because others challenge you.

I'm sorry if I come across harshly or too forward with what I know to be true but since I made this thread I have spent too much time defending it than actually adding more information to it.

I know not all information I read is true because none of it is true, anything ever published in human history is regulated by the powers that were, if its controversial or it's "in breech of national security" then it's banned or never reaches the press and people are silenced but the information I have gathered is from what people are saying and a lot of credible people are saying it, there's astronauts, military personnel, former NASA employees, retired veterans, who by the way no longer give a fuck of being assassinated because to say nothing is worst than death, for it's condemning the next generation to a life of control and subversion, then there's leaked documents and witness and abduction victims statements, then there's the archaeological evidence.

Originally Posted by patb

I say again, give me irrefutable, in your face proof and then i will believe.
I will not take anything i read or hear anymore as 'truth' for there are a million 'truths' out there.

I really do wish I had actual undeniable proof, pisses me off that the conspiracy of silence has been so effective on a global scale, were at the tipping point now anyway but I wish I could be the one to able to answer the nagging question of are we alone.

Originally Posted by patb

Oh, and in parting, you have no idea what my 'concept' - programmed or not - of this world is, whereas i can clearly see what your 'programmed concept of the world at large is'.
And all the best with that - which i sincerely mean.

I didn't mean to be insulting with the comment of your "programmed concept of the world at large", everyone has a programmed concept of reality, some see a dark alley as a short cut home, while others see it as a place to get mugged.

[shirogaijin]

Originally Posted by saint_frankenstein

Aren't "Pleiadians" supposed to be those blond "Nordic" types? It just seems like a form of white supremacy in disguise. White people will save us! Er...excuse me...white aliens will save us!

Yes the Pleiadians are Nordic looking and the Andromeda's are red skin indian looking, I won't say "Native American" because it was the white man that founded America by stealing it, the land called America already existed, any intelligent person knows that racism is the epitome of arrogance, we are all equal, it's ego that say's otherwise not logic and reasoning.

[saint_frankenstein]

Originally Posted by shirogaijin

Yes the Pleiadians are Nordic looking and the Andromeda's are red skin indian looking, I won't say "Native American" because it was the white man that founded America by stealing it, the land called America already existed, any intelligent person knows that racism is the epitome of arrogance, we are all equal, it's ego that say's otherwise not logic and reasoning.

Funny how they all look like humans.

[shirogaijin]

Originally Posted by saint_frankenstein

Funny how they all look like humans.

That's not a coincidence at all really, the human look is well spread among the stars, not all have the same exact look but the whole aspect of a ears, nose, eyes, mouth, arms, legs, hands and feet are a predominant feature in almost all intelligent life, the galactic federation believed we would be less shocked and more trusting if alien life looked more human, there are extraterrestrials that are exactly like the aliens in independence day and in Ridley Scotts aliens, there are also entities that have no corporeal form at all, balls of light and ghostlike, also there are entire planets with entities we would believe to be fictional.

[saint_frankenstein]

Originally Posted by shirogaijin

That's not a coincidence at all really, the human look is well spread among the stars, not all have the same exact look but the whole aspect of a ears, nose, eyes, mouth, arms, legs, hands and feet are a predominant feature in almost all intelligent life, the galactic federation believed we would be less shocked and more trusting if alien life looked more human, there are extraterrestrials that are exactly like the aliens in independence day and in Ridley Scotts aliens, there are also entities that have no corporeal form at all, balls of light and ghostlike.

I guess evolution doesn't exist on their planets, since they were obviously not effected by their environments.

As you can see, I'm pretty skeptical about this stuff. I do believe there is life on other planets, and probably intelligent life, but I don't really buy into the claims of everyone who claims to be a contactee and that aliens are going to save us, etc.

[shirogaijin]

Originally Posted by saint_frankenstein

I guess evolution doesn't exist on their planets, since they were obviously not effected by their environments.

As you can see, I'm pretty skeptical about this stuff. I do believe there is life on other planets, and probably intelligent life, but I don't really buy into the claims of everyone who claims to be a contactee and that aliens are going to save us, etc.

Evolution is true to an extent, aliens interbred with ancient humans creating who we are today but that lineage of interbreeding with men and women from the stars goes beyond even the records of the Pleiadians, I think it's about every 36000 years all life evolves, everything suddenly changes, science has discovered this as fact, the time to evolve is upon once more, this is the awakening of the human race.

We are all incarnate entities in a human vehicle, which is currently using 10% of the brain, this will become 100% over the next 2 years, The pineal glands first wake up call will be on the 21st December 2012, this will cause a spiritual and religious experience for all of humanity, your mind will suddenly become one with everything an the knowledge of the universe will be accessible to you.

We are living with evolution, every cell in your body contains genetic memories of your previous incarnations and your true identity is stored in your dna, the dna classed as junk is far from the truth, the dna we don't understand will become clear to us all, we were unplugged when we became slaves eons ago but now the connection is to be plugged back in as it were, the power of the third eye will be accessible to you and we will be able to perform feats of super human abilities.

I implore you to watch Project Camelot Twilight of the old boys network video.

PROJECT CAMELOT : TWILIGHT OF THE OLD BOYS NETWORK - YouTube

PROJECT CAMELOT : TWILIGHT OF THE OLD BOYS NETWORK - YouTube

[saint_frankenstein]

Originally Posted by shirogaijin

Evolution is true to an extent, aliens interbred with ancient humans creating who we are today but that lineage of interbreeding with men and women from the stars goes beyond even the records of the Pleiadians, I think it's about every 36000 years all life evolves, everything suddenly changes, science has discovered this as fact, the time to evolve is upon once more, this is the awakening of the human race.

We are all incarnate entities in a human vehicle, which is currently using 10% of the brain, this will become 100% over the next 2 years, The pineal glands first wake up call will be on the 21st December 2012, this will cause a spiritual and religious experience for all of humanity, your mind will suddenly become one with everything an the knowledge of the universe will be accessible to you.

We are living with evolution, every cell in your body contains genetic memories of your previous incarnations and your true identity is stored in your dna, the dna classed as junk is far from the truth, the dna we don't understand will become clear to us all, we were unplugged when we became slaves eons ago but now the connection is to be plugged back in as it were, the power of the third eye will be accessible to you and we will be able to perform feats of super human abilities.

Yeah, we'll see.

By the way, the belief that we only about 10% of our brains is an old myth. We use all of our brains, at pretty much every moment of our lives. However, we may not be using all of our innate potential, in spiritual terms.