1. Islamic prospective

philmycoke · 23-04-2012, 02:44 AM

* there will be no follow up. i dont think this is the time or the place. i should of seen this before hand..... time to quit david icke too...*
Hello fellow truth seekers.

I am a Muslim and I believe in my religion. Now over the recent days, years and the 2 decades I have seen and witnessed life change from good to bad.

I am currently 31 year old who follows Mr Ike daily and I refuse to attend any of his public lectures for many reasons and one of them being Asian and I don’t want to be beaten up.

I feel this for many reasons. Not that I feel David Ike meetings are thuggish meetings or meetings where racists attend. I feel this because I will be forced to speak out of turn as you will see later why.

By default none of us follow a faith, religion or any set of doctrine. This is not new to us nor is it something to be surprised about. As we are truth seekers we can not be atheists.

Rather I would say we are A-theists.

I would like to see permission from my friends here and the moderators to put Muslim, Islamic prospective on many of David's works. Also works of people who seek the truth. People who explain things and yet do not attribute anything to one type or kind or side of belief.

I am not here to convert anyone but to show 99% of David's work is from Islamic teachings. Now this also includes Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism and Islam.

We may disagree on religion but can we disagree on simple text that says and describes the times we live in? We can disagree with the fact that only item left on the agenda is Iran according to all major religions? Are we going to disagree that the people from the west, coming from the west will conquering Iran and a new life will begin?

I just want to throw religious twist on to many things and show people that what they see before there eyes in this forum, the headlines and what MR Ike or MR Jones say although might be found in sources other then religion are infarct events turning out the way they are described in religion.

I just want thumbs up before I do something wrong or before people start to become agitated.

The example I would give is simple.

“if you see your brothers in trouble, go help them, even if it means crawling over ice”. And there sign will be black.

Now the above is not in so many words from the teaching of Islam. I bet you all thinking Afghanistan. As you know the attack was delayed and when it finally began it was snowing. You also know the sign or there symbol was the black flag. And the union of all in Islam or the unification is universal brotherhood.

The question I have is if something like this is available for us in written text lets say even 100 days before this war happened how many other written texts can describe the situation we are in.

World War 3 is around the corner.
What does the major religions have to say.

Shall we lads have a religious twist to this wonderful work people are doing?

Ali.

guevarista · 23-04-2012, 03:43 AM

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We may disagree on religion but can we disagree on simple text that says and describes the times we live in?

Yes when they also describe adequately many other times throughout history as all vague religious and non-religious "fore-tellings" do.

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I am not here to convert anyone but to show 99% of David's work is from Islamic teachings.

It makes sense because it is drawn from Theosophy and Synarchism (occultism) which both share many fundamental precepts of religion, some allege by being the "secret doctrines" of those religions.

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“if you see your brothers in trouble, go help them, even if it means crawling over ice”. And there sign will be black.

Now the above is not in so many words from the teaching of Islam. I bet you all thinking Afghanistan. As you know the attack was delayed and when it finally began it was snowing. You also know the sign or there symbol was the black flag.

Well I think the Islamic states use black in reference to the Abbasid caliphate, no I wasn't thinking of Afghanistan from that statement, it is far too vague to refer to anywhere in particular, it's just a nice metaphore of which there are millions, it shows that even if you will endure hardship and discomfort you should help one another, a worthwhile maxim if applied to all regardless of their religious leanings.

verndewd · 23-04-2012, 05:19 AM

oh well that makes up for the last 12 hundred years of muslim insanity.

noobcybot · 23-04-2012, 06:15 AM

Hmmm, many people here are Islamophobes so expect a lot of arguments and people parroting the type of things that have been given to the public since 9/11. Inshallah though may you make a good case.

If you wanted an Islamic perspective on the conspiracy at large including the nature of reality and the reptilians etc... Then may I point you towards Heshems Films? Many may not have heard of the expansive The Antichrist Dajjal series but may have heard of 'The Arrivals' which it influenced heavily.

tjohn · 23-04-2012, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by philmycoke

Hello fellow truth seekers.

By default none of us follow a faith, religion or any set of doctrine.

Hello Alli,

God/Allah made us all, so what happens if you go back to the default?

sheroo963 · 23-04-2012, 08:28 AM

Hi there its not about religion its about facts what you see everyday whats happening in the world david icke is not speaking against islam he is telling you the real facts which you can research on your own.so stop being a child get up wake up and fight for your freedom life is al about struggling bro

boudica52 · 23-04-2012, 09:41 AM

Putting a reigious twist on David's work would surely be completely against everything David has said over the years. You claim to understand David's writings but you demonstrate the opposite.
I have been to a couple of David's talks over the years and encourage you to do the same. If your view and fear of his readers comes only from this forum, I can see why you would be afraid. This forum does not, in my opinion, represent David's readers. I have found other members of his audience to be warm, interesting individuals, seeking to understand the truth of this crazy world, like myself.

nirvana · 24-04-2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by noobcybot

Hmmm, many people here are Islamophobes so expect a lot of arguments and people parroting the type of things that have been given to the public since 9/11. Inshallah though may you make a good case.

If you wanted an Islamic perspective on the conspiracy at large including the nature of reality and the reptilians etc... Then may I point you towards Heshems Films? Many may not have heard of the expansive The Antichrist Dajjal series but may have heard of 'The Arrivals' which it influenced heavily.

If being Islamicphobe means being anti women being stoned or whipped or gay people hung then yes alot of us are against that.

The sick and twisted practice of sharia law

A Poem About Sharia Law: "Buried Chest High" - YouTube

decode reality · 24-04-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by philmycoke

* there will be no follow up. i dont think this is the time or the place. i should of seen this before hand..... time to quit david icke too...*
Hello fellow truth seekers.

I am a Muslim and I believe in my religion. Now over the recent days, years and the 2 decades I have seen and witnessed life change from good to bad.

I am currently 31 year old who follows Mr Ike daily and I refuse to attend any of his public lectures for many reasons and one of them being Asian and I don’t want to be beaten up.

I feel this for many reasons. Not that I feel David Ike meetings are thuggish meetings or meetings where racists attend. I feel this because I will be forced to speak out of turn as you will see later why.

By default none of us follow a faith, religion or any set of doctrine. This is not new to us nor is it something to be surprised about. As we are truth seekers we can not be atheists.

Rather I would say we are A-theists.

I would like to see permission from my friends here and the moderators to put Muslim, Islamic prospective on many of David's works. Also works of people who seek the truth. People who explain things and yet do not attribute anything to one type or kind or side of belief.

I am not here to convert anyone but to show 99% of David's work is from Islamic teachings. Now this also includes Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism and Islam.

We may disagree on religion but can we disagree on simple text that says and describes the times we live in? We can disagree with the fact that only item left on the agenda is Iran according to all major religions? Are we going to disagree that the people from the west, coming from the west will conquering Iran and a new life will begin?

I just want to throw religious twist on to many things and show people that what they see before there eyes in this forum, the headlines and what MR Ike or MR Jones say although might be found in sources other then religion are infarct events turning out the way they are described in religion.

I just want thumbs up before I do something wrong or before people start to become agitated.

The example I would give is simple.

“if you see your brothers in trouble, go help them, even if it means crawling over ice”. And there sign will be black.

Now the above is not in so many words from the teaching of Islam. I bet you all thinking Afghanistan. As you know the attack was delayed and when it finally began it was snowing. You also know the sign or there symbol was the black flag. And the union of all in Islam or the unification is universal brotherhood.

The question I have is if something like this is available for us in written text lets say even 100 days before this war happened how many other written texts can describe the situation we are in.

World War 3 is around the corner.
What does the major religions have to say.

Shall we lads have a religious twist to this wonderful work people are doing?

Ali.

hi,

First I'd like to say you wouldn't be beaten up as an Asian attending an Icke talk, whatever your religion happens to be or not. Though with the nature and volume of certain threads and posts on this forum, you could be forgiven for thinking otherwise!

Secondly, whatever the correlation you've found between Islam and aspects of Icke's work/related work, it is possible to arrive at certain views of the world without necessarily being informed by Islamic ideas, or those of any other religion. However if you can show similarities, post your findings and people can offer their opinion. The religion forum would probably be the best place.

Personally I doubt your thesis. Icke has written and spoken against the kind of ideas prevailent in Islam and definitely doesn't cite it as a source. Not the slightest implication at all.

noobcybot · 24-04-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nirvana

If being Islamicphobe means being anti women being stoned or whipped or gay people hung then yes alot of us are against that.

The sick and twisted practice of sharia law

A Poem About Sharia Law: "Buried Chest High" - YouTube

See what I mean?

philmycoke · 24-04-2012, 03:22 PM

Sir, Bigots and retards and thoughtless people do not bother me. See they have to exist with us

.

Sharia law? without unity? people dont even understand what they say! There has not been Sharia law since.... God knows. lol....

Shall we go low.... and say Jesus sent usa into iraq? or soon iran?

guns dont kill people. people kill people.

or by your own admission david icke is a loony....

or accpet....We cant say Islam is the cause for ill in stupid poor backward countries.

I see noobcybot. I see. I understand. And guess what.... like a zit! its welcome.

easily.... got rid off. We must just remember to wash our hands and use a tissue. ideally the same one used for the bum.

23-04-2012, 02:44 AM	#1
philmycoke Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 9	1. Islamic prospective * there will be no follow up. i dont think this is the time or the place. i should of seen this before hand..... time to quit david icke too...* Hello fellow truth seekers. I am a Muslim and I believe in my religion. Now over the recent days, years and the 2 decades I have seen and witnessed life change from good to bad. I am currently 31 year old who follows Mr Ike daily and I refuse to attend any of his public lectures for many reasons and one of them being Asian and I don’t want to be beaten up. I feel this for many reasons. Not that I feel David Ike meetings are thuggish meetings or meetings where racists attend. I feel this because I will be forced to speak out of turn as you will see later why. By default none of us follow a faith, religion or any set of doctrine. This is not new to us nor is it something to be surprised about. As we are truth seekers we can not be atheists. Rather I would say we are A-theists. I would like to see permission from my friends here and the moderators to put Muslim, Islamic prospective on many of David's works. Also works of people who seek the truth. People who explain things and yet do not attribute anything to one type or kind or side of belief. I am not here to convert anyone but to show 99% of David's work is from Islamic teachings. Now this also includes Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism and Islam. We may disagree on religion but can we disagree on simple text that says and describes the times we live in? We can disagree with the fact that only item left on the agenda is Iran according to all major religions? Are we going to disagree that the people from the west, coming from the west will conquering Iran and a new life will begin? I just want to throw religious twist on to many things and show people that what they see before there eyes in this forum, the headlines and what MR Ike or MR Jones say although might be found in sources other then religion are infarct events turning out the way they are described in religion. I just want thumbs up before I do something wrong or before people start to become agitated. The example I would give is simple. “if you see your brothers in trouble, go help them, even if it means crawling over ice”. And there sign will be black. Now the above is not in so many words from the teaching of Islam. I bet you all thinking Afghanistan. As you know the attack was delayed and when it finally began it was snowing. You also know the sign or there symbol was the black flag. And the union of all in Islam or the unification is universal brotherhood. The question I have is if something like this is available for us in written text lets say even 100 days before this war happened how many other written texts can describe the situation we are in. World War 3 is around the corner. What does the major religions have to say. Shall we lads have a religious twist to this wonderful work people are doing? Ali. Last edited by philmycoke; 23-04-2012 at 07:47 AM. Reason: Islamoophobes

23-04-2012, 05:19 AM	#3
verndewd Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lands of the american natives Posts: 11,894	oh well that makes up for the last 12 hundred years of muslim insanity. __________________ see the world as walking in spirit in harmony and let everything else go

23-04-2012, 06:15 AM	#4
noobcybot Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,643	Hmmm, many people here are Islamophobes so expect a lot of arguments and people parroting the type of things that have been given to the public since 9/11. Inshallah though may you make a good case. If you wanted an Islamic perspective on the conspiracy at large including the nature of reality and the reptilians etc... Then may I point you towards Heshems Films? Many may not have heard of the expansive The Antichrist Dajjal series but may have heard of 'The Arrivals' which it influenced heavily. __________________ The one has become many. Last edited by noobcybot; 23-04-2012 at 06:17 AM.

23-04-2012, 08:28 AM	#6
sheroo963 Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2	Hi there its not about religion its about facts what you see everyday whats happening in the world david icke is not speaking against islam he is telling you the real facts which you can research on your own.so stop being a child get up wake up and fight for your freedom life is al about struggling bro

23-04-2012, 09:41 AM	#7
boudica52 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 372	Putting a reigious twist on David's work would surely be completely against everything David has said over the years. You claim to understand David's writings but you demonstrate the opposite. I have been to a couple of David's talks over the years and encourage you to do the same. If your view and fear of his readers comes only from this forum, I can see why you would be afraid. This forum does not, in my opinion, represent David's readers. I have found other members of his audience to be warm, interesting individuals, seeking to understand the truth of this crazy world, like myself.

24-04-2012, 03:22 PM	#11
philmycoke Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 9	Sir, Bigots and retards and thoughtless people do not bother me. See they have to exist with us . Sharia law? without unity? people dont even understand what they say! There has not been Sharia law since.... God knows. lol.... Shall we go low.... and say Jesus sent usa into iraq? or soon iran? guns dont kill people. people kill people. or by your own admission david icke is a loony.... or accpet....We cant say Islam is the cause for ill in stupid poor backward countries. I see noobcybot. I see. I understand. And guess what.... like a zit! its welcome. easily.... got rid off. We must just remember to wash our hands and use a tissue. ideally the same one used for the bum.