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Old 23-04-2012, 03:19 PM   #21
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It's all about seeing the hands that guide the players, brian.

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Old 23-04-2012, 03:22 PM   #22
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and that was my question in the op, who guids and how do they do it

all im getting is vague refs and picture montages
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Old 23-04-2012, 03:24 PM   #23
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and that was my question in the op, who guids and how do they do it

all im getting is vague refs and picture montages
Nobody knows Brain.

A vague picture of what is going on and presumption is all you will ever get.

You will not get absolute concrete facts because nobody can know something for a fact when all they have is the 100th stage of a Chinese whisper
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Old 23-04-2012, 03:25 PM   #24
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There are loads of players but everyone tries to blame one for everything like they can't grasp complexity or they need to simplify the world. These players are competing with each other for their own agenda's but they also come together at times to work towards a goal. I mean would world unity be so bad?

Anyway its a power play listen to this

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Why dont we all just be honest and admit that we know nothing










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Old 23-04-2012, 03:38 PM   #26
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Nobody knows Brain.

A vague picture of what is going on and presumption is all you will ever get.

You will not get absolute concrete facts because nobody can know something for a fact when all they have is the 100th stage of a Chinese whisper
thats the problem, many use the term like they know for certain it exists and then that they know who it is and what they want, when in fact the whole thing is a supersistion e


there are ''things'' people with masive influence, but to suggest there is an agenda of one world government depopulation etc is nothing more than a wild guess, they cant even have one european government a world one is a non started
and if there is a depopulation agenda, they are making a piss poor job of it so far
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Old 23-04-2012, 03:40 PM   #27
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There are loads of players but everyone tries to blame one for everything like they can't grasp complexity or they need to simplify the world. These players are competing with each other for their own agenda's but they also come together at times to work towards a goal. I mean would world unity be so bad?

Anyway its a power play listen to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ1OW7vlgPA
yes i do suspect its an attempt to over simplyfy that the real issue
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Old 23-04-2012, 03:41 PM   #28
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Actually you can deduce quite a lot from the quotes of famous people and their is lots of reading Icke among them. You just gotta extrapolate all the religious and alien stuff because that truly is Chinese whispers.

Once you confirm to yourself the simple truth. The Elite are human you'll have a better understanding I feel The Elite is quite a big group too you must understand which draws its members from all faiths. But the center piece is the WASP Hegemony. Those nazi boys really confuse me they should rejoice, The white man still runs the western hegemony. Good protestant men might I say

Then you got the Jews who really just care about Israel, Israel, Israel. Everything is the consolidation of their power their. They have convinced those good old WASP's that they share this glorious view.

The Catholics want more power and money like everyone else. They are locked in eternal conflict with their Protestant brethren not necessarily violent.

Behind this all is old family's those WASP families who own all the agriculture in the US of by god A and other shit. They bank too and they are as old as the Jewish families. Never talked about though that why you don't know. Some savy aristocrats make up this bunch too.

Then Jews who are capable and Catholics who are capable. All comes together in one glorious fucked up melting pot with their own agenda's and sometimes they come together. But most importantly they all agree on this. Perpetuation of their power base and maintaining the status quo at all costs that made them filthy rich.

After that you got the political Elite who love the European experiment because it is the biggest gravy train they got going right now. This all includes upper middle class(might not even be able to call them this) They are just under the elite slightly. The bureaucrats and assholes who grease the great cog and enable the whole thing to run like clockwork.

Remember the upper elite have their fingers in a lot of pies they influence media tycoons and famous people.
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thats the problem, many use the term like they know for certain it exists and then that they know who it is and what they want, when in fact the whole thing is a supersistion e


there are ''things'' people with masive influence, but to suggest there is an agenda of one world government depopulation etc is nothing more than a wild guess, they cant even have one european government a world one is a non started
and if there is a depopulation agenda, they are making a piss poor job of it so far
So now you can come to the only logical conclusion about the conspiracy genre, fear mongering cash cow
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and that was my question in the op, who guids and how do they do it

all im getting is vague refs and picture montages
Who benefits? Discover this and you will discover who guides.
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Actually you can deduce quite a lot from the quotes of famous people and their is lots of reading Icke among them. You just gotta extrapolate all the religious and alien stuff because that truly is Chinese whispers.

Once you confirm to yourself the simple truth. The Elite are human you'll have a better understanding I feel The Elite is quite a big group too you must understand which draws its members from all faiths. But the center piece is the WASP Hegemony. Those nazi boys really confuse me they should rejoice, The white man still runs the western hegemony. Good protestant men might I say

Then you got the Jews who really just care about Israel, Israel, Israel. Everything is the consolidation of their power their. They have convinced those good old WASP's that they share this glorious view.

The Catholics want more power and money like everyone else. They are locked in eternal conflict with their Protestant brethren not necessarily violent.

Behind this all is old family's those WASP families who own all the agriculture in the US of by god A and other shit. They bank too and they are as old as the Jewish families. Never talked about though that why you don't know. Some savy aristocrats make up this bunch too.

Then Jews who are capable and Catholics who are capable. All comes together in one glorious fucked up melting pot with their own agenda's and sometimes they come together. But most importantly they all agree on this. Perpetuation of their power base and maintaining the status quo at all costs that made them filthy rich.

After that you got the political Elite who love the European experiment because it is the biggest gravy train they got going right now. This all includes upper middle class(might not even be able to call them this) They are just under the elite slightly. The bureaucrats and assholes who grease the great cog and enable the whole thing to run like clockwork.

Remember the upper elite have their fingers in a lot of pies they influence media tycoons and famous people.
The majority of protestant and catholic churches are no longer at war, look into ecumenical matters
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Actually you can deduce quite a lot from the quotes of famous people
Actually, if a few quotes from famous people is all you have to go on then its actually not a lot.

Nobody knows what is truelly going on, including famous people.

And famous people are merely commenting on their 'personal experiences' that are gained within a very limited environment.


The problem also with 'quotes' is that the words last forever written on paper, however the quote itself may have been a fleeting thought that lasted only a second

Peoples thoughts change with the wind, unfortunately their 'quotes' last forever
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Actually you can deduce quite a lot from the quotes of famous people and their is lots of reading Icke among them. You just gotta extrapolate all the religious and alien stuff because that truly is Chinese whispers.

Once you confirm to yourself the simple truth. The Elite are human you'll have a better understanding I feel The Elite is quite a big group too you must understand which draws its members from all faiths. But the center piece is the WASP Hegemony. Those nazi boys really confuse me they should rejoice, The white man still runs the western hegemony. Good protestant men might I say

Then you got the Jews who really just care about Israel, Israel, Israel. Everything is the consolidation of their power their. They have convinced those good old WASP's that they share this glorious view.

The Catholics want more power and money like everyone else. They are locked in eternal conflict with their Protestant brethren not necessarily violent.

Behind this all is old family's those WASP families who own all the agriculture in the US of by god A and other shit. They bank too and they are as old as the Jewish families. Never talked about though that why you don't know. Some savy aristocrats make up this bunch too.

Then Jews who are capable and Catholics who are capable. All comes together in one glorious fucked up melting pot with their own agenda's and sometimes they come together. But most importantly they all agree on this. Perpetuation of their power base and maintaining the status quo at all costs that made them filthy rich.

After that you got the political Elite who love the European experiment because it is the biggest gravy train they got going right now. This all includes upper middle class(might not even be able to call them this) They are just under the elite slightly. The bureaucrats and assholes who grease the great cog and enable the whole thing to run like clockwork.

Remember the upper elite have their fingers in a lot of pies they influence media tycoons and famous people.
agree to the most part with that, the only agenda to to prerve their power and wealth whilst getting more influence that the other elites
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The majority of protestant and catholic churches are no longer at war, look into ecumenical matters
It isn't a war it is a competition. They still jockey around each other for prestige and power. Blackyblue if you can't understand what I am saying it is not my problem. I don't blame you for being confused the conspiracy sub culture is completely saturated it has become its own cash cow. But there will always be dissent and it needs a voice.
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It isn't a war it is a competition. They still jockey around each other for prestige and power. Blackyblue if you can't understand what I am saying it is not my problem. I don't blame you for being confused the conspiracy sub culture is completely saturated it has become its own cash cow. But there will always be dissent and it needs a voice.
Inversedivinity, you are no less confused.
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Ecumenism or oecumenism mainly refers to initiatives aimed at greater Christian unity or cooperation. It is used predominantly by and with reference to Christian denominations and Christian Churches separated by doctrine, history, and practice. Within this particular context, the term ecumenism refers to the idea of a Christian unity in the literal meaning: that there should be a single Christian Church. Not to be confused with Nondenominational Christianity

The word contrasts with interfaith dialogue or interfaith pluralism aimed at unity or cooperation among diverse religions and referring to a worldwide 'religious unity' by the advocacy of a greater sense of shared spirituality.

The majority, some say 98% of Protestant churches, are part of the ecumenical movement now.
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I could break it down for you but it would take multiple links and an essay. Read up history like how Aristocrats survived moving from the age where they depended on their land and tenants to now. Not all of them went bust and broke. Look up old banking families in America it runs from Quakers to mormons even. It is old families as powerful and prestigious as these Jewish ones everyone keeps harping about.

It has always been families. Even guys who set up corporations formed a dynasty. The Elite has grown because they have had to made way for new upcomers like the likes of Henry Ford etc who did things through their own innovation. But at the core their have been the original families who not only survived but thrived. They all rub shoulders with each other.

No reptiles, No Et's. It really rather simple. Continuation and survival of their interests, power, wealth and prestige. I am not confused.

George Carlin said it best. "It's one big club and your not in it"

If you achieve fame and riches I assure you, It would soon become apparent who some of these folks are. I don't believe in the spiritual component but I do believe in the clubs like skulls and bones. These clubs are basically where the institution has gotten greedy and wishes to exert influence on the next generation of movers and shakers. Make sure your gonna play ball and do things just like Daddy before you did.
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Ecumenism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The majority, some say 98% of Protestant churches, are part of the ecumenical movement now.
Islam. That's my theory on that. Reactive.
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indeed it has, on a sort of ying yang model, power has always centralized in to two power blocks, not for negative reasons but coz thats the way it is,
the EU sat between the US and china is an an unnatral entity and is of no use, thats why the banks wont support it and its doomed to fail
Another thing about the EU is it doesn't appear to be any nearer to being fulfilled. From the outset there were too many differences and competing agendas.

Why was there a need for an EU (and Common Market)? It just struck me that many of its member nations had, up until the 50s and 60s, colonised or had access to the material resources of vast swathes of Africa, Asia and parts of the middle east. After many of those nations gained independence (of sorts), their resources were no longer as freely available to the rich western nations. So the idea of an 'EU' would appear to be so that Europe could become more reliant upon its own resources. This in itself isn't a bad thing. However there isn't a history of cooperation amongst European nations, indeed up until recently, much of their interaction has been wars and revolutions of various kinds. That then sets the backdrop for an EU; no real surprise that it really isn't working. There's no spirit of union, that's for sure.
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I could break it down for you but it would take multiple links and an essay. Read up history like how Aristocrats survived moving from the age where they depended on their land and tenants to now. Not all of them went bust and broke. Look up old banking families in America it runs from Quakers to morons even. It is old old families as powerful and prestigious as these Jewish ones everyone keeps harping about.

It has always been families. Even guys who set up corporations formed a dynasty. The Elite has grown because they have had to made way for new upcomers like the likes of Henry Ford etc who did things through their own innovation. But at the core their have been the original families who not only survived but thrived. They all rub shoulders with each other.

No reptiles, No Et's. It really rather simple. Continuation and survival of their interests, power, wealth and prestige. I am not confused.

George Carlin said it best. "It's one big club and your not in it"

If you achieve fame and riches I assure you, It would soon become apparent who some of these folks are. I don't believe in the spiritual component but I do believe in the clubs like skulls and bones. These clubs are basically where the institution has gotten greedy and wishes to exert influence on the next generation of movers and shakers. Make sure your gonna play ball and do things just like Daddy before you did.
But who are they?

It is kind of in your face who the Elitest front is. The Royals. But everyone seems to always miss this fact.

However the Royals are not as strong as what they would have you believe.

They are the ones 'stole' the land from the Irish and Scottish landowners. They are the ones make the 'big' decisions.

They are the ones trying to guide us towards the EU and UN

Yet no-one seems to rarely mention them.
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