Top Australian Catholic: 'Jews morally inferior'

[stevie0013]

If you replaced the word jews with the word blacks, would you still agree he's right? You're clearly racist, congratulations

[teardropexplodes]

Originally Posted by rhydra

It makes me laugh really because the Catholic Church, as a Christian organisation views the person the religion takes it's name from, Jesus Christ as it's head being on the Earth, a prophet of their god.

Jesus Christ was a Jew!

No he wasn't.

[teardropexplodes]

Originally Posted by stevie0013

If you replaced the word jews with the word blacks, would you still agree he's right? You're clearly racist, congratulations

Nonsense. He's discussing historical facts.
This is not racist.

[stevie0013]

Originally Posted by teardropexplodes

Nonsense. He's discussing historical facts.
This is not racist.

Yeah he is & so are you, i was actually refering to you.

Definition of racist: A person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others.

I rest my case

[saint_frankenstein]

Originally Posted by macdon

He's right. Before the Greeks came long in about 333BC the Jews were nothing but an insignificant desert tribe.

There is some scholarship that suggests the Old Testament was written in this Hellenistic period – between 333-1 BC.

The New Testament was written in Greek by Hellenised Jews. One could argue it was written by Greeks of Jewish descent.

When the Romans went to Judea, about 300 years later Tiberius asked his legionnaires of the Jews, “what did the Greeks write about them”. The overwhelming response was, “nothing Caesar”. He then replied, “then these people are not important to us”.

The Greeks themselves were prolific writers and were fascinated by the customs and quirks of barbarians (non-Greek speakers). For them not to write anything or much at all about the Jews, is telling in itself.

So putting it all together, Cardinal Pell was correct.

Probably because the "history" in the OT is mostly a fabrication.

[saint_frankenstein]

Originally Posted by rhydra

It makes me laugh really because the Catholic Church, as a Christian organisation views the person the religion takes it's name from, Jesus Christ as it's head being on the Earth, a prophet of their god.

Jesus Christ was a Jew!

Not a very nice thing to say about the boss now is it!

Yes, Christian Jew-hatred is laughable.

[dolores1]

Originally Posted by stevie0013

Yeah he is & so are you, i was actually refering to you.

Definition of racist: A person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others.

I rest my case

Don't rest your ass too soon!


Jews claim -
1 - to be specially chosen
2 - not to be like the people of God
3 - ALL others are cattle - Goy.
4 - They can lie, cheat, steal, rape, plunder and kill under their oath Kol Nidre.

So think again, for if the above list claimed by jews is not racist, then I don't know what is!

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by stevie0013

Yeah he is & so are you, i was actually refering to you.

Definition of racist: A person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others.

I rest my case

Jews are not a race but a cult/religion.
Hence the trotzy term "racist" is totally wrong and falsely applied.

[stevie0013]

Originally Posted by tinyint

Jews are not a race but a cult/religion.
Hence the trotzy term "racist" is totally wrong and falsely applied.

Not really, the essence of racism is that you shouldn’t discriminate against someone for the colour of there skin or anything else, the basis is that you judge the person on who they really are, not on any group they belong to, it's the same foundation that you can apply.
I rest my case

[stevie0013]

Originally Posted by dolores1

Don't rest your ass too soon!


Jews claim -
1 - to be specially chosen
2 - not to be like the people of God
3 - ALL others are cattle - Goy.
4 - They can lie, cheat, steal, rape, plunder and kill under their oath Kol Nidre.

So think again, for if the above list claimed by jews is not racist, then I don't know what is!

They don't, some of them do.
So do some Christians and some of every religion. Just because some Jews are assholes doesn’t mean that all of them are. It's exactly like saying, just because one black guy raped someone, that means’s all blacks are bad, which is just stupid logic. Unless you can prove that literally all jews or a mass majority of them are as you say they are in you're list then you're wrong. And you can't because there not.
I rest my case

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by stevie0013

Not really, the essence of racism is that you shouldn’t discriminate against someone for the colour of there skin or anything else, the basis is that you judge the person on who they really are, not on any group they belong to, it's the same foundation that you can apply.
I rest my case

What a lovely politically correct orwellian newspeak hogwash.

We need to learn to use our language correctly again.

The word "racism" was invented by a mass murderer and literally a racist in the truest sense of the word.

"Discrimination" is the creation of special laws for artificially inserted groups into totally opposite foreign societies.

[stevie0013]

Originally Posted by tinyint

What a lovely politically correct orwellian newspeak hogwash.

We need to learn to use our language correctly again.

The word "racism" was invented by a mass murderer and literally a racist in the truest sense of the word.

It doesn’t matter who invented it, it serves a purpose in our language and we all understand what it means, it means to over look the individual & discriminate against them because there different from you & because they belong to a certain social group you do not. Why do people hate the jews? I hate Israel, but the average jew, especially out Israel is a decent person. Larry Silverstein is a slim ball, I’ll give you that, The Rothschild’s suck, I’ll give you that! But most Jews are alright people just like anyone else & can you imagine as just a normal person, how offensive it is to be called names. Mel Gibson is an ignorant moron who hits women & drinks to much.
I rest my case

[gremlin]

Originally Posted by stevie0013

It doesn’t matter who invented it, it serves a purpose in our language and we all understand what it means, it means to over look the individual & discriminate against them because there different from you & because they belong to a certain social group you do not. Why do people hate the jews? I hate Israel, but the average jew, especially out Israel is a decent person. Larry Silverstein is a slim ball, I’ll give you that, The Rothschild’s suck, I’ll give you that! But most Jews are alright people just like anyone else & can you imagine as just a normal person, how offensive it is to be called names. Mel Gibson is an ignorant moron who hits women & drinks to much.
I rest my case

You do narf rest your case alot. I agree jews have used, but have you considered some jews actually have opinions that they think they are better than the average joe. Your view is just your view, you can't get into the mindset of some jews and guarenteed they wont employ you. Try getting a job with them!

[gremlin]

Originally Posted by stevie0013

Yeah he is & so are you, i was actually refering to you.

Definition of racist: A person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others.

I rest my case

The jews!

[majorlee]

can i be a jew????


oh....wait.....no i cannot!



but its too easz to point fingers at groups, there is some freakin sick individuals that call themselves jews i agree but on the whole thez are just as brainwashed and stupid as there rest of the peoples of the world

[stevie0013]

Originally Posted by gremlin

You do narf rest your case alot. I agree jews have used, but have you considered some jews actually have opinions that they think they are better than the average joe. Your view is just your view, you can't get into the mindset of some jews and guarenteed they wont employ you. Try getting a job with them!

Yeah i know right, i agree, fuck the jews, I'm not there friend i dont have any time for them, i just think Mel Gibson is an idiot. Fuck the jews.

[stevie0013]

Oh & i rest my case

[drakul]

[quote]

Originally Posted by macdon

He's right. Before the Greeks came long in about 333BC the Jews were nothing but an insignificant desert tribe.

Wasn't the Greek Golden Age 500-332BC? Then came Alexander

There is some scholarship that suggests the Old Testament was written in this Hellenistic period – between 333-1 BC.

The New Testament was written in Greek by Hellenised Jews. One could argue it was written by Greeks of Jewish descent.

Or maybe the NT was just written by GREEKS or Hellenized Canaanites. Why would the Jews devise Christianity? It had nothing to do with their religion. The Jews hated Christianity then and they hate it to this day. Except to claim - Don't forget - JESUS WAS A JEW so we want our annual tribute from the US/EU NOW.

When the Romans went to Judea, about 300 years later Tiberius asked his legionnaires of the Jews, “what did the Greeks write about them”. The overwhelming response was, “nothing Caesar”. He then replied, “then these people are not important to us”.

The Greeks themselves were prolific writers and were fascinated by the customs and quirks of barbarians (non-Greek speakers). For them not to write anything or much at all about the Jews, is telling in itself.

Interesting. And yet to read history you would think it was all about the Jews. The rest is just a footnote - like the 44 million Christians who died in WWII.

So putting it all together, Cardinal Pell was correct.

Pell was just an idiotic patsy put up there to make Dawkins look good. Maybe Pell was even told what to say and threw the debate on purpose. Could he really be THAT DUMB? I mean this is about sounding intelligent above all and yet the way Pell expressed himself, makes Christian clergy look like fools.

[zen_anarchy]

Historically at the time of the romans and in earlier times of the Greeks the Jews had little importance in the world culturally or politically .They where little more than one of the many desert tribes that existed at the time and had little to show for it apart from the religious teachings which really only gained importance when it was seen fit by the romans to use Christian religion as a means to unify their empire religiously and used the teachings of a heretical Jewish sect.

The real time of importance for the Jewish culture came through the conversion of the Khazars to Judaism in the 8th century and in the controlling of the trade routes between the east and Europe due to their third religion middle man status.

During the 8th century, the Khazar royalty and much of the aristocracy converted to a form of Judaism.

Khazars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

strangely enough many of the western monarchies can trace their roots back to the Khazars (Ceases,kaisers,kings)

During the medieval times this lead to the great wealth of the Jewish peoples and because their religious doctrine did not forbid usury at the time whereas Christians where forbidden from practicing usury.This lead to the banking systems of Europe being created and mainly controlled by Jewish influence.

as for the moral aspects , Jews are no less corrupt than any other culture

but is this racist to state that the Jews where of little importance in the world until the 8th century and their control of trade routes ?


I would state that the elite of any culture or tribe eventually get corrupted and thus in turn adds the need for rebellion and revolution unfortunately the west is long overdue.

[flyermay]

Originally Posted by nofuture

Cardinal George Pell on early Jewish intellectualism - YouTube

I don't see anything wrong with what he said... he was talking about the Jews as a civilization more than 2000 years ago. More than 2000 years ago we also lived in huts; we also were an inferior civilization to the Romans, the Greeks, the Egyptians, the Persians and even to the Jews themselves.

And what a great point bringing out the fact that Jesus was a Jew...