Star Wars - Legacy & Mythology

[supertzar]

Originally Posted by octopusrex

Both.

I don't think so, octopusrex. It's the Jedi. They work for the monarchy that believes themselves to be the rightful rulers of the galaxy because of their genetics just like the Illuminati hybrid rulers of today. The Sith represent the returning purebred reptilians who the Illuminati fear in our world. If it sounds counter-intuitive consider that the Illuminati would have good reason represent themselves as the savior of mankind in film.

[novum]

Originally Posted by size_of_light

Haha.

More on this

Dont know if youve seen this page... ancient horus/winged sun disc images in one place...with some descriptions...kinda fits in with this thread when u read it...and we know they love flashing ol' hor they do...

An oddity associated with the Tree of Life is the so-called solar disk or winged disk. When examining the solar winged disk some have a more mechanical appearance. The center seems to have a hub with a rim and wing like projections. It is always in the sky. This web site speculates that this winged disk is a representation for a seraphic transport.

The solar winged disc: http://firstlegend.info/3rivers/thewingedsolardisk.html
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[novum]

"Vehicles"

Common themes to look for in some symbolism is a stylized bird with wings outstretched, and some kind of representation of the sun, some kind of circle usually.


Corvette Logo



Mazda



Ssang Yong



Bentley



Aston



Chrysler



Mini



The winged sun was an ancient (3rd millennium BC) symbol of Horus, later identified with Ra...

[novum]

Originally Posted by novum

More just for the hell of it...bit of local...















Horus, (Louvre Museum), 'Shen rings' in his grasp


compare to the thing the 3 dudes are cruising in... (sumerian)


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[novum]

A "solar barge" (also "solar bark", "solar barque", "solar boat" and "sun boat") is a mythological representation of the sun riding in a boat.

The "Khufu ship", a 43.6-meter-long vessel that was sealed into a pit in the Giza pyramid complex at the foot of the Great Pyramid of Giza around 2500 BC, is a full-size surviving example which may have fulfilled the symbolic function of a solar barque.

This boat was rediscovered in May 1954 when archeologist Kamal el-Mallakh and inspector Zaki Nur found two ditches sealed off by about 40 blocks weighing 17 to 20 tonnes each. This boat was disassembled into 1,224 pieces and took over 10 years to reassemble. A nearby museum was built to house this boat.

Other sun boats were found in Egypt dating to different pharonic dynasties.

Examples include:

Neolithic petroglyphs which (it has been speculated) show solar barges

The many early Egyptian goddesses who are related as sun deities and the later gods Ra and Horus depicted as riding in a solar barge.

The Nebra sky disk, which (it has been speculated) features a depiction of a solar barge.

Nordic Bronze Age petroglyphs, including those found in Tanumshede often contains barges and sun crosses in different constellations.


Ra in his solar barge


More symbolism - "Most watched movie of all time"

Originally Posted by ownoiz

In the Ancient Egyptian "The Book of the Dead" , Isis (SOLAR DEITY) is depicted standing on the prow of the Solar Bark with her arms outstretched.

prow (prou). n. 1. Nautical The forward part of a ship's hull; the bow.










The Book of the Dead is the modern name of an ancient Egyptian funerary text, used from the beginning of the New Kingdom (around 1550 BC) to around 50 BC.

The Book of the Dead was placed in the coffin or burial chamber of the deceased.

The sun itself also was compared to a wheel, possibly in Proto-Indo-European, Greek hēliou kuklos, Sanskrit suryasya cakram, Anglo-Saxon sunnan hweogul (PIE *swelyosyo kukwelos).


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_deity


From link i posted above...

An oddity associated with the Tree of Life is the so-called solar disk or winged disk. When examining the solar winged disk some have a more mechanical appearance. The center seems to have a hub with a rim and wing like projections. It is always in the sky. This web site speculates that this winged disk is a representation for a seraphic transport.

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[octopusrex]

Originally Posted by supertzar

I don't think so, octopusrex. It's the Jedi. They work for the monarchy that believes themselves to be the rightful rulers of the galaxy because of their genetics just like the Illuminati hybrid rulers of today. The Sith represent the returning purebred reptilians who the Illuminati fear in our world. If it sounds counter-intuitive consider that the Illuminati would have good reason represent themselves as the savior of mankind in film.

Problem, reaction, solution.
What if Yoda is actually a sith?

[consciousness]

Originally Posted by octopusrex

Problem, reaction, solution.
What if Yoda is actually a sith?

Yoda may represent something, but his words are exceptional spiritual knowledge and understanding, in the same class as the buddah.

[size_of_light]

Originally Posted by consciousness

Yoda may represent something, but his words are exceptional spiritual knowledge and understanding, in the same class as the buddah.

Except when he tells Luke in Empire Strikes Back that "a Jedi only uses the Force for defense, never for attack" and then in Attack of the Clones when he has his first ever confrontation (with Count Dooku) he attacks first!

Lying little motherfucker.

[octopusrex]

Originally Posted by consciousness

Yoda may represent something, but his words are exceptional spiritual knowledge and understanding, in the same class as the buddah.

But so are Emperor Palpatine's! That's the point.. Only he is more honest about the power structure in Lukas' universe.

[unity808]

those other star wars scripts---they should make movies out of those too---those were pretty good reads!!
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yoda was voiced by frank oz---it was the same voice that he used on the grover character on sesame street----the pbs eugenic brainwashing channel

so maybe the similarity was to associate "good" with being allied with the msm propaganda entity---yoda would be the higher power in star wars

but would be a representative of the brainwashing apparatus for kids at the time for the nwo---the voice of globalist tv would be the same voice for the ulitimate power in star wars
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also chaka on "land of the lost"---he was drawn on for the wookie character

associations----to take control of the kids imaginations from their tv diet

carefully studied by lucas for maximum archetypical effect
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they used reptilian mental programming on that show "land of the lost"--they had the sleestak characters----running the same type of line that would be typical of an "icke perspective" on reppies

[rydeon]

The way I've seen it, the last three (chronological) Star Wars films are basically WW2 in space. The empire is the Nazi's, while the Rebel's are the 'allies' etc etc.

According the 'Vril maiden's' (German psychic women back in the 1920s and 30s), Alderberan is the homeplace of some of earth's progenitors who first arrived in Sumeria. These beings apparently returned back there millenia ago.

Now in the original draft Lucas has Alderbaran as the HQ for the Empire, interesting...
Yet in the finalised screenplay and actual film the death star blows it up instead.
So it changes from being the 'bad guys' place to an innocent / neutral world. I'm not sure why they did that, possibly Lucas reckoned it was smug satisfaction to an 'enemy's' essoteric claim?

It's probably quite a rush for someone to make a film with it looking like one thing on the surface, yet if you peek under it's something entirely different altogether.

[nocternald]

yoda a reptillian? lol

[merlincove]

Originally Posted by nocternald

yoda a reptillian? lol

JaJa was reptilian..... say no ore

[genemeadow]

There are many books that can be written about this, and blog entries abound, but in a nutshell, the story of star wars is the story of the rise of illuminati control. The sith are the reptilians, and personified in the figure of palpatine, sith lord, we see how he manipulates both sides, taking control of the republic in public and of rogue elements covertly (count dooku).

In so doing, palpatine kills his own master and mentor (plagius), has his older servant (dooku) set up and killed off by his younger (anakin), and palpatine then lies to and betrays his younger servant to manipulate him and further ensnare him in the dark side. The endless manipulations (setting anakin against the council, exploiting the republic to build an army which will be used to destroy it) all cloaked in lies of how each move will serve the general interest when it only undermines it, are all part of the grand design to bring about total unity and peace (another lie).

This is the plan of the illuminati then: total control and authority ostensibly to bring about peace; the veil and veneer of harmony and peace through it's opposite: constant warfare, and the endless creation of fractures and animosities.

While some of the storytelling is clumsy, or drawn out, Ep III paints as clear a picture as you'll ever find of the sociopathic black heart and ingeniousness of the illuminati.

While George Lucas may be a simpleton of sorts, and has ironically become the total master and a system of control which he both wanted to escape as well as to expose to some degree, I still respect his work immensely. On top of that his films are actually fun to watch.

[nocternald]

Originally Posted by merlincove

JaJa was reptilian..... say no ore

LOL didn’t they call him amphibian?

Anyway. What i noticed in the second video is how Emperor Palpatine is a literally a one man Illuminati. Quite literally, just one guy doing what the illuminati has done for centuries. One person, controlling both sides of politics, clouding everything for everyone with all these irrelevant games, engineering political power with false flags, to get his new world order 'Galactic totalitarian empire'.

The force is just another word for chi, the jedi story is a short version of how chi in the universe has been suppressed over time, back thousands of years ago, many of the eastern martial arts and chi based pracitices where widespread all over the wolrd like the jedi order, now becuase of the sith 'illuminati' they have been supprsedd so they hide away.

George Lucas knows his SHIT!!!

[silentnomore]

Originally Posted by size_of_light

These lines (which, together form ONE sentence BTW), are written in an ancient (Or Biblical if you like) Style / Syntax, as opposed to Modern Hebrew Syntax. In Hebrew (Like in many other languages, both modern and ancient), Words often have several meanings - (Regardless of the style, grammar, or syntax in which they are used). These are then defined according to the context of the sentence . Therefore, translating these lines can be tricky.. With that in mind I would suggest the following translation:

The First Line -

(Phonetically pronounced - Ein Maasav)

Means -

His deeds (and not works) will not

The Second Line - this is a difficult one:

To begin with it is placed up-side down! I think it is partially covered (i.e. the letters are partially cut), I think it is misspelled as well (That is if I guessed it right in the first place!) Anyhow, IMHO, this line means -

Be forgiven

(Phonetically pronounced - Nisslachim)

And The Third Line

(Phonetically pronounced - Aad shezacha) Means -

Until he merits (and not won)

Put together, the sentence reads -

" His deeds will not be forgiven, until he merits"

Which, not only makes MUCH more sense (IMHO), but also sounds very familiar. I know I've herd it before, but for the life of me I just cannot remember where. At first I thought it may be part of the prayers or hymns of the Jewish - Day of Atonement service. I've look it up (read the whole thing) and it's not in there. Then I thought it might be mentioned in the holy scriptures - in one of the books that deals with repentant - Palms / Proverbs / Ecclesiastes.. (May be the book of prophets as well?)

As I'm not orthodox - my knowledge of the old testament does not go beyond basic (in Jewish terms). My knowledge of the new testament is probably less then basic - Anyone out there care to have a go? It just might be in there ( in an English version of course! ) Im currently researching these venues. I havent found anything yet.. But you'll be the first to know if I do!

[ BTW, someone at work was very impressed with my - religious devotion - If only they knew ]

The more interesting aspect of this mystery chest-plate is - Who put it there? And why? Is it meant to be part of the story? Or just an anecdote?

Another related issue is the upside-down line / word... In the Kabala (=Jewish mysticism) words are very powerful. Perhaps placing a word upside-down can reverse its meaning? (I'm not an expert in 'Kabala' either).

If this is the case, does the chest-plate convey some kind of prophecy or 'curse' placed by - say - Yoda, or Ben - only to be 'reversed' by our beloved Palpy? (Wild speculation..)

Or may be its just a fluke? May be the costume department just got it wrong, by mistake? [Someone that knew nothing of the hidden meaning - in these odd Hebrew symbols (regarding them as just an exotic font) accidentally placed it upside-down..]

Coincidence? I think not!

In any case - food for thought..

-anat

Anat wrote us and followed up with this:

I accidentally used the word Nisslachim instead of Nimchalim ... They ARE synonymous words ( I was probably thinking in Hebrew - Consequently using the more modern version of the same word) .

They both mean - be forgiven - so I did not mislead you in that sense - but should you suddenly have an urge to pronounce that sentence phonetically...

Well, its only fair to give you the correct version/ pronunciation... So, the sentence is pronounced -

Ein MaaSaV NimChaLim (!) Aad SheZaCha

- Meaning -

His deeds will not be forgiven until he merits.

May the Force be with you,

Anat

http://www.theforce.net/rouser/essays/chestplate.asp

If it helps at all, I can tell you that the what you are analysing there in the Star Wars universe is called Aurebesh (sometimes also known as "Aurekbesh"), the written form of the Basic language. It can be seen here:



.... and is more fully explained here.

[silentnomore]

Originally Posted by size_of_light

Except when he tells Luke in Empire Strikes Back that "a Jedi only uses the Force for defense, never for attack" and then in Attack of the Clones when he has his first ever confrontation (with Count Dooku) he attacks first!

Lying little motherfucker.

Man, that happens all the time. Re-watch the movies, and the Clone Wars series, and see how many times the Jedi walk into an area where they encounter Vader / Palpatine / Dooku / Maul etc. etc. The Jedi (advocates for peace throughout the galaxy) are almost always the aggressors in conflicts.

[merlincove]

Originally Posted by size_of_light

Except when he tells Luke in Empire Strikes Back that "a Jedi only uses the Force for defense, never for attack" and then in Attack of the Clones when he has his first ever confrontation (with Count Dooku) he attacks first!

Lying little motherfucker.

Originally Posted by silentnomore

Man, that happens all the time. Re-watch the movies, and the Clone Wars series, and see how many times the Jedi walk into an area where they encounter Vader / Palpatine / Dooku / Maul etc. etc. The Jedi (advocates for peace throughout the galaxy) are almost always the aggressors in conflicts.

it's interesting how the concept / idea of the Jedi representing a force for peace (irony in itself lol) and stood as the paragons of morality through the original trilogy was turned on its head through episodes 1, 2 and 3.....

We see that corruption is an epidemic within the very council, and Yoda was blissfully unaware of it.

I think it was the Buddah who spoke of the middle way (Vader, as an archetype) as being salvation while the extremes offered slavery in different guises?

[silentnomore]

I think one of the things that I loved most of all about the new trilogy was that, throughout our earlier years, we all believed that Star Wars was about the rise from humble farmboy to mighty, righteous warrior who saves the universe from evil and enslavement. But then you watch the prequel trilogy, and you realise that actually, yes, the entire 6-film saga is about a small boy who comes from humble roots to might and power, saving galaxies from evil. But suddenly, halfway through the second film, you realise that actually, "power" is a really key element to the story, and it demonstrates how easily we are seduced or coerced by power. Kinda turne the whole thing on its head a bit, I think.

Originally Posted by nocternald

The force is just another word for chi, the jedi story is a short version of how chi in the universe has been suppressed over time, back thousands of years ago, many of the eastern martial arts and chi based pracitices where widespread all over the wolrd like the jedi order, now becuase of the sith 'illuminati' they have been supprsedd so they hide away.

George Lucas knows his SHIT!!!

That, he does, my friend. There are also references made to the writing process that Lucas went through that drew upon the whole easter martial arts area. For example, one of his biggest influences in creating the whole story was Akira Kurosawa's "Seven Samurai", and I think it's the "Behind The Magic" CDs that actually makes the link between the Star Wars term "Jedi" and I believe the samurai word was "jed'dai", although I seem to have lost them at the moment and there appears to be no reference to it on Google. However, Star Wars Wiki always comes through:

Etymology

Said to have been adapted by George Lucas from Japanese jidaigeki (meaning "period drama" motion pictures about samurai), or perhaps contaminated by association with the warrior’s title "jed" in the Barsoom Books by Edgar Rice Burroughs, a series which Lucas considered adapting to film before his work on Star Wars.

And another thing:

Originally Posted by genemeadow

While George Lucas may be a simpleton of sorts, and has ironically become the total master and a system of control which he both wanted to escape as well as to expose to some degree, I still respect his work immensely. On top of that his films are actually fun to watch.

Ya know, I got that impression too whenever I watch one of his interviews. It's almost like Rick McCallum was always waiting in the wings, watching to see when to give George his meds....

[size_of_light]

Originally Posted by silentnomore

Man, that happens all the time. Re-watch the movies, and the Clone Wars series, and see how many times the Jedi walk into an area where they encounter Vader / Palpatine / Dooku / Maul etc. etc. The Jedi (advocates for peace throughout the galaxy) are almost always the aggressors in conflicts.

Originally Posted by merlincove

it's interesting how the concept / idea of the Jedi representing a force for peace (irony in itself lol) and stood as the paragons of morality through the original trilogy was turned on its head through episodes 1, 2 and 3.....

We see that corruption is an epidemic within the very council, and Yoda was blissfully unaware of it.

I think it was the Buddah who spoke of the middle way (Vader, as an archetype) as being salvation while the extremes offered slavery in different guises?

Yep, George Lucas is a weird unit.

As incomptetent a storyteller and filmmaker as he is, this can't have just been an oversight.

It gets overlooked, but if you now watch the six films in sequence, by the time you listen to Yoda righteously lecturing Luke on Dagobah about Jedis only using the Force for peace, you feel like laughing out loud at what a blatant and collossal bullshit artist he really is.