Misandry: The hatred of men and boys!

[ultimale]

Originally Posted by little_miss

I find that video highly offensive & to be honest i'm shocked that you feel that way. I wonder what has went on in your life to make you so bitter - for example - i've been battered by a guy, cheated on, treated like shit from more than one male yet I dont put all men in that category as im not dumb enough to think that they are all like that.

As quoted from the last part of the video

Fuck a bitch
smash n dash
hump n dump.

You've got sooooooooooo much to learn. I really hope to god that you NEVER reproduce. I think its for the best that you have vowed to remain single. If anything I actually feel quite sorry for you that you have only ever experienced horrible women in your life.

Your a bitter individual

I find your post to be stupid and your disingenuous outrage highly selective. Rather than look at the whole of Madman's points, you take the little bit of a post that offends you and use it to condemn the OP.

I see you have no sympathy for men that have been abused by women, which is the whole point of this thread. If women have a problem being considered sex objects and only desired for sex, then they have to realize that is the only reason men have left to want most Westernized women. Its not like men are falling for women because of their generosity, kindness, and ability to cook and clean.

And since you had no problem making back-handed insults of the OP in your complete condemnation of him.

Originally Posted by little_miss

You've got sooooooooooo much to learn. I really hope to god that you NEVER reproduce. I think its for the best that you have vowed to remain single.

who has NEVER attacked a women unfairly in this entire thread- I have no problem saying to you in response to this-

Originally Posted by little_miss

I find that video highly offensive & to be honest i'm shocked that you feel that way. I wonder what has went on in your life to make you so bitter - for example - i've been battered by a guy, cheated on, treated like shit from more than one male yet I dont put all men in that category as im not dumb enough to think that they are all like that.

It is you who was dumb enough to choose men that battered you and treated you like shit. I am willing to bet that it WASN'T YOU who asked these men out, but they who asked you out, and you who have no intelligent foresight, chose shitty men. I don't have sympathy anymore for women who make stupid decisions and then whine about the mess they made of their own life.

Hell, this thread wouldn't exist if this was a minor problem, but the reason for this thread's popularity and longevity is because it is so relate-able to people here. The MAJORITY of women have been affected by feminism and misandry, and the worst part is they deny there is any wrong-doing on their part when they clearly treat men badly.

I personally feel bad for any guy that ends up with you, because i can sympathize with why he might end up treating you like shit. To quote Prince

"What's good for the goose, is always good for the gander, hello sailor!"

[inversedivinity]

Originally Posted by little_miss

I find that video highly offensive & to be honest i'm shocked that you feel that way. I wonder what has went on in your life to make you so bitter - for example - i've been battered by a guy, cheated on, treated like shit from more than one male yet I dont put all men in that category as im not dumb enough to think that they are all like that.

As quoted from the last part of the video

Fuck a bitch
smash n dash
hump n dump.

You've got sooooooooooo much to learn. I really hope to god that you NEVER reproduce. I think its for the best that you have vowed to remain single. If anything I actually feel quite sorry for you that you have only ever experienced horrible women in your life.

Your a bitter individual

Woah that isn't very nice...I hope you never reproduce you say this like it is some really difficult task. LOL.

[madman]

Originally Posted by little_miss

You've got sooooooooooo much to learn. I really hope to god that you NEVER reproduce

I don't have kids and I don't plan to have any because I consider myself to be responsible unlike so many single mothers out there that intentionally get themselves pregnant in order to either trap a man or leach off welfare!

And I don't ever plan to reproduce because modern society doesn't encourage women to stay with men and I don't want my children if I ever have any to grow up in a broken home with a biter single man hating mother like a lot of women tend to be these days.

[madman]

Originally Posted by ultimale

I find your post to be stupid and your disingenuous outrage highly selective. Rather than look at the whole of Madman's points, you take the little bit of a post that offends you and use it to condemn the OP.

I see you have no sympathy for men that have been abused by women, which is the whole point of this thread. If women have a problem being considered sex objects and only desired for sex, then they have to realize that is the only reason men have left to want most Westernized women. Its not like men are falling for women because of their generosity, kindness, and ability to cook and clean.

And since you had no problem making back-handed insults of the OP in your complete condemnation of him.



who has NEVER attacked a women unfairly in this entire thread- I have no problem saying to you in response to this-



It is you who was dumb enough to choose men that battered you and treated you like shit. I am willing to bet that it WASN'T YOU who asked these men out, but they who asked you out, and you who have no intelligent foresight, chose shitty men. I don't have sympathy anymore for women who make stupid decisions and then whine about the mess they made of their own life.

Hell, this thread wouldn't exist if this was a minor problem, but the reason for this thread's popularity and longevity is because it is so relate-able to people here. The MAJORITY of women have been affected by feminism and misandry, and the worst part is they deny there is any wrong-doing on their part when they clearly treat men badly.

I personally feel bad for any guy that ends up with you, because i can sympathize with why he might end up treating you like shit. To quote Prince

"What's good for the goose, is always good for the gander, hello sailor!"

Thanks for backing me up mate,

Its funny how she says my post was offensive yet she tries her best to insult me even though I have done my best to avoid insulting any individuals on these forums on a personal level.

But as a fellow MGTOW I'm sure you would agree that people like this do always resort to shaming language and insults when they don't get their own way.

Which is why I am glad that I no longer give a fuck because I would hate to have to live with someone that would resort to playing games like these.

[ultimale]

Originally Posted by madman

Thanks for backing me up mate,

Its funny how she says my post was offensive yet she tries her best to insult me even though I have done my best to avoid insulting any individuals on these forums on a personal level.

But as a fellow MGTOW I'm sure you would agree that people like this do always resort to shaming language and insults when they don't get their own way.

Which is why I am glad that I no longer give a fuck because I would hate to have to live with someone that would resort to playing games like these.

My Pleasure.

I greatly respect your restraint on this forum. You only bring yourself down to her level when you engage in her petty bickering. I, on the other hand, have no problem at all being petty!

I greatly detest the shaming language, loaded statements, and deceptive, argument hijacking tactics that many Westernized women have come to employ. Through the websites like MGTOW and others of its kind, i have cracked the Venus Code!

For example- lets dissect this backhanded, insulting "attack" from a poster here that shall remain nameless...

"You've got sooooooooooo much to learn. I really hope to god that you NEVER reproduce. I think its for the best that you have vowed to remain single. If anything I actually feel quite sorry for you that you have only ever experienced horrible women in your life."

Dissected into direct man speak it reads "God, you're such an idiot! I hope you never have kids because you will be a terrible parent! You are so undesirable and unlikable, I wouldn't wish you on my worst enemy! Your such a pitiful loser, You got exactly what you deserved and i have no sympathy for you. Fuck You!"

At least thats how I hear it in my head.

I think of this thread like a beacon of truth against the Feminazi manipulations and mindtraps.

Keep up the good work Brother!

[kamagawa]

I know this is nitpicking, but....
I find it annoying that women complain about men not wanting to go clothes shopping when the clothing industry is only really supplying for women.
I have noticed that whenever I have to go get a new top or shoes,any shop that has a mens section usually only has a small section for men, unless the store is small. Also, women get tons of choice in design and, to be honest, i get bored choosing between coloured, checkered/striped/golf shirt or plain styled t-shirt. I want more styles than those 4.
I am not interested in wearing womens clothes or looking gay,I just think it is unfair that women get a choice between 10000000s of options and men only get a choice between 10.

Also when people say men don't like going shopping, they have clearly never been in a hardware store or sports store...or games store...or any non-clothes store...

[yin_yang]

Originally Posted by ultimale

Dissected into direct man speak it reads "God, you're such an idiot! I hope you never have kids because you will be a terrible parent! You are so undesirable and unlikable, I wouldn't wish you on my worst enemy! Your such a pitiful loser, You got exactly what you deserved and i have no sympathy for you. Fuck You!"

At least thats how I hear it in my head.

So it wasn't just me who perceived that then.

Basically, all I read was 'You're a sexist pig, you should never have kids and should forever be alone' correct me if I'm wrong, but is that not what it basically said underneath the linguistic forcefield she created around that post?

[madman]

Originally Posted by ultimale

My Pleasure.

I greatly respect your restraint on this forum. You only bring yourself down to her level when you engage in her petty bickering. I, on the other hand, have no problem at all being petty!

I greatly detest the shaming language, loaded statements, and deceptive, argument hijacking tactics that many Westernized women have come to employ. Through the websites like MGTOW and others of its kind, i have cracked the Venus Code!

For example- lets dissect this backhanded, insulting "attack" from a poster here that shall remain nameless...

"You've got sooooooooooo much to learn. I really hope to god that you NEVER reproduce. I think its for the best that you have vowed to remain single. If anything I actually feel quite sorry for you that you have only ever experienced horrible women in your life."

Dissected into direct man speak it reads "God, you're such an idiot! I hope you never have kids because you will be a terrible parent! You are so undesirable and unlikable, I wouldn't wish you on my worst enemy! Your such a pitiful loser, You got exactly what you deserved and i have no sympathy for you. Fuck You!"

At least thats how I hear it in my head.

I think of this thread like a beacon of truth against the Feminazi manipulations and mindtraps.

Keep up the good work Brother!

Thats a great translation mate.

You should invent a translation page of chick speak, you will make millions from it!

[madman]

Originally Posted by little_miss

I find that video highly offensive & to be honest i'm shocked that you feel that way. I wonder what has went on in your life to make you so bitter - for example - i've been battered by a guy, cheated on, treated like shit from more than one male yet I dont put all men in that category as im not dumb enough to think that they are all like that.

As quoted from the last part of the video

Fuck a bitch
smash n dash
hump n dump.

You've got sooooooooooo much to learn. I really hope to god that you NEVER reproduce. I think its for the best that you have vowed to remain single. If anything I actually feel quite sorry for you that you have only ever experienced horrible women in your life.

Your a bitter individual

To be quite honest, I find this response to be the most offensive response so far.

Rather than debate and acknowledge my points you resorted to personal attacks and shaming language.

For those that are ill informed to the methods of shaming tactics, I highly recommend that you watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jE7IRfz-YU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jE7IRfz-YU

It contains a lot of tips and shows the methods that the brainwashed feminazis resort to using on their opponents in order to silence and control debate on gender issues.

They will never work on me because I've heard them all before!

P.S ultimale, you should get a little more insight from this clip but like me I'm certain that you are also familiar with these tactics but feel free to share this info with people you know that are starting to wake up from The Matrix.

[kamagawa]

You know what, when women try to use guilt, men should just ask something on the lines of "if i am a waste of space and you don't want to help me, why are we having this conversation?"

If what the woman says is true, there is no reason for the discussion, unless she wants something out of men.
(not sure if I wrote this correctly)
Also, I wonder what this kind of woman would say if you told them you don't want to get laid and want to be an eternal bachelor.
If she says your are backing down, say "I'm trying, but you aren't giving me the chance."
This will probably fry her brain and be funny as no matter what she does, she is in the wrong or is the one backing down.
I like messing with people, though there are some people who make it too easy.

...didn't someone post about permanently preventing himself from getting a woman pregnant (or maby it was a friend)...

[madman]

I love the women that try to use sex to control men because they seem to forget that they enjoy sex as well but the ones that use sex to control men will play the funniest games.

A few years ago I was seeing a woman that tried to control me with sex but she tried it at the most inconvenient time, when we were in bed!

I remember her saying something along the lines that what gets her worked up is a manly man that does stuff around the house and then she asked me to mow the lawns for her tomorrow.

Basically what she did was the opposite of a turn on but seeing I was already standing to attention so to speak I decided to rub one run out just to prove to her that I wasn't going to play her games

Anyway half an hour later she was wetter than sponge at a kitchen sink but I was no longer in the mood so I said to her the only way she could get me excited was if she were to come over to my place and cook and clean for me and then I turned my back on her and went to sleep.

If sex can be used as a game then I can also play that game and when I play, I play to win!

[kamagawa]

Why don't we all just give them what they want and move to mars or something?
That way they can have their stupid human-slaves and us smart people can live in peace on mars.

The sad thing is, they (tptb and the negative gender stereotypes) will blame us for giving them what they want once they realize they screwed up.

There is an anime (VanDread) that I watched a long time ago asked what would happen if men and women were on 2 separate planets.
each thought the other were inhuman aliens, until a women who is curious about what men looked like and went to save a man that was shot down.
Ultimately, the 2 planets joined together and the 2 protagonists got together.
There is more to it, but that would get a bit off topic.

[little_miss]

I apologise in advance as I have not had a chance to read all the replies to my post yesterday.

I have read the whole thread, been following for weeks & I have read all of madmans posts, and if you look pages back you will see that I even responded in agreement with Madman (will you testify to this Madman!?)

I agree with alot that is written in this thread. Theres no doubt about that.

Yes its my choice for the people in my past it isn't my choice to have the father that I did but hey ho...my point was......that happened but I dont blame men, I dont pigeon hole men! I dont say - I hate all men, all men are arseholes, look what happened to me, it happens to loads others...they are evil ect ect. No, I think no such thing.

Madman - I have to admit the vid did piss me off, I watched it and I swear, the first thing that came to my head was......if I had posted a vid about how men "ruin" womens lives and at one part it said - use and abuse them, lead them into a false relationship get their money then f.off....there would be outrage on the thread/forum and I think you know that!!! But its ok to "advertise" fuck & dumping women! Does that make sense?

I'm all for chatting about the things women do wrong in society, although im aware men do equally as bad, I am still willing to agree on aspects, but now it feels like its gone too far. Yes women do certain things but saying fuck & dump ect, it doesn't sit right with me.

you might not want a relationship (fair enough) but remember there are women on the forum, its not male only and the things posted are insulting to the women here, wether you like/dislike women ect, fact is we are all here (on the forum) for a reason, last thing we need is to log on every day to see that what feels like the whole male population of the forum hate women!

[little_miss]

Originally Posted by ultimale

I find your post to be stupid and your disingenuous outrage highly selective. Rather than look at the whole of Madman's points, you take the little bit of a post that offends you and use it to condemn the OP.

I see you have no sympathy for men that have been abused by women, which is the whole point of this thread. If women have a problem being considered sex objects and only desired for sex, then they have to realize that is the only reason men have left to want most Westernized women. Its not like men are falling for women because of their generosity, kindness, and ability to cook and clean.

And since you had no problem making back-handed insults of the OP in your complete condemnation of him.



who has NEVER attacked a women unfairly in this entire thread- I have no problem saying to you in response to this-



It is you who was dumb enough to choose men that battered you and treated you like shit. I am willing to bet that it WASN'T YOU who asked these men out, but they who asked you out, and you who have no intelligent foresight, chose shitty men. I don't have sympathy anymore for women who make stupid decisions and then whine about the mess they made of their own life.

Hell, this thread wouldn't exist if this was a minor problem, but the reason for this thread's popularity and longevity is because it is so relate-able to people here. The MAJORITY of women have been affected by feminism and misandry, and the worst part is they deny there is any wrong-doing on their part when they clearly treat men badly.

I personally feel bad for any guy that ends up with you, because i can sympathize with why he might end up treating you like shit. To quote Prince

"What's good for the goose, is always good for the gander, hello sailor!"

One Question -

You think i'm like the women that we're discussing on this thread dont you??

[ultimale]

Originally Posted by little_miss

One Question -

You think i'm like the women that we're discussing on this thread dont you??

Since you asked the question, Yes,I do. HOWEVER, i do give you props for even bothering to debate the subject and possibly learn.

A big problem with many women is the Double-think they have going on- in 1984, George Orwell defined Double-think as the ability of the mind to hold two mutually exclusive ideas as being both true.

Women like to think that they are fair, reasonable, and good, despite many evil, manipulative/abusive actions that would ruin that initial premise.

I call it the "Heroine Delusion" (this delusion applies to men as well)- where a women will think of herself in terms of a Movie Heroine- she's the main character, and everyone else around her are supporting actors. Now, the Protagonist of any story is usually always assumed to be good, the audience is always supposed to sympathize with the Protagonist, even if she is committing evil deeds (cheating), those evil deeds can be discounted because it is merely a part of her great big life journey and it will all work out when everything ends happily ever after.

Little_miss, you try to see yourself as fair and just, but you do not wish to see your nasty side.

THIS IS WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT- BRINGING ATTENTION TO THE ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR THAT WOMEN COMMIT AGAINST MEN WITH OR WITHOUT THEM EVEN REALIZING THEY ARE BEING ABUSIVE.

When I was in college, most of what I learned had nothing to do with the college curriculum. I started a film club in college before I became disillusioned by the truth that getting any kind of group of people to do anything with out the motivation of money was like herding cats. To hone my filming skills at the time, i carried a videocamera around with me everywhere for a few weeks.

I noticed that while women LOVED getting in front of cameras and having their picture taken, they absolutely HATED video cameras(unless they are drunk). I came to the conclusion it is because women are very self-conscious- every movement, facial expression, gesture, is meticulously planned in their minds. With a picture, a women only needs to hold her pose, or act, for a few moments. The picture will reflect only the image she wished to hold up. On the other hand, A video camera catches EVERYTHING.

It is a fact most people do not like to see themselves on video, but this is ESPECIALLY TRUE OF THE WOMEN I HAVE MET IN U.S. Women only want to be on videocamera if they are looking their best and have all their lines written for them. Most people don't want to see exactly how they natually act, move, sound. They'll say things like- "OMG, I can't believe I sound like that! Is this how other people see me?"

Despite thinking of themselves as the star of their own movies, women ironically avoid video cameras like vampires avoid mirrors- and for the exact same reason. The video-camera reveals their true souls, or lack thereof. It doesn't take long looking at captured video footage to see the nasty glares they give off when they think no one is paying attention, or subtly cruel behavior that comes through under radar- only with instant playback can many of these infractions be seen.


The world is insane, and truly it is the sane people who suffer most. I suffered alot growing up trying to understand women, only to discover that most women are crazy. Luckily, i went crazy, so i understand them now...

[azureaura]

I for one, am tired of the NWO adverts on TV selling products where the women is the winner and the man is dominated or subdued. Contrast this with the 80s sexist adverts which concentrated on men and their abstract power over women.

[ultimale]

I also wanted to post this post i made to another thread someone posted with the loaded title of "Do Men Hate Women"- despite it becoming a very insightful thread, it was moved to members lounge. I feel this particular post is beneficial for everyone to read though.

On the many Gender-War threads i have taken part in- I have never seen a women apologize on behalf of their gender for the general sins of women- instead men get NAWALT- "Not All Women Are Like That." It is an insidiously brilliant argument deflection- Rather than talk about the faults of women, it changes focus of argument to an attack on men making generalizations about women.

Here, again we see an interesting framing of male/ female tensions- do men hate women? Surely its not something women are doing wrong- its just men "hating."

No- men don't hate women- the issue men have with women is their behavior and the way women have taken to treating men.

Unfortunately the discussion of Modern Women's behavior cannot be had outside of the context of Men. If we are to say that women have abused their "freedom" while simultaneously giving up the traditional responsibilities of a women- Men are accused of being sexist for expecting women to do women jobs and being a mother. If we discuss women hitting men, a women will inevitably bring up men hitting women. Even if we begin to discuss a female trend with no true male equivalent- like the rampant materialism and entitlement complex that afflicts many women today- some women will feel the need to "even" the score and attack men for some reason.

Women need to take a GOOD LOOK at themselves and see they have gone very far away from true femininity.

The women who act like pseudo-males are not truly acting like men- it is really a mix of the worst, most apparent- competitive qualities of a man, combined with the manipulative, irrational/emotional nature of women. This has created what i like to call Princess Monsters- capable of the most horrific behavior, but with a twisted sense she was justified for doing it.

What i find most lamentable about all these threads is no matter how much men try to describe a male perspective on this- women will write them off as women haters to protect their ego and avoid a potentially painful introspective soul-search.

[cogito ergo sum]

I don't want to get dragged into this mess of a thread, so I'm not going to respond to any comments directed at me. I merely want to state an observation. This thread is supposed be about misandry and how abused men are, yet it's turned in to a thread dedicated to misogyny. It seems the irony is lost on many of you. To judge half of the population based on the actions of some is ignorant. I don't care how you try to justify it. You're blind if you can't see the beauty in both sexes and appreciate what both halves of the whole can offer. I feel sorry for men and women who walk around resenting half of the population. Anger and resentment is toxic. Men and women are two halves of a whole. They need each other. Also, the soul is sexless. If you judge someone based on what's between their legs and ignore their spirit, then you are really missing the point and have a lot of searching to do, and maybe you should turn your criticism inward and find out what it is in you that makes you harbor anger and resentment towards such a large group of people. This applies to men and women. There's a lot of hypocrisy going on in this thread. A lot of people whining about how hard they have it. Grow up and create your own happiness and if women/men really hurt and abuse you so much, then ignore them or get out of the situation. I see a lot of whining by adults who need to get over it and start looking inward. I can't believe some of the stuff I've read on this thread. These are not "enlightened" people. I thought David Icke forums was for people who were tired of the divisiveness and the ugliness in the world. Apparently, that is not the case on this particular thread. Jeez louise. This is the most childish thing I've encountered on this site. So sad. I genuinely hope those of you who are bitter can overcome and find happiness within yourselves, then maybe you will find it easier to find happiness with another and won't resent men/women so much.

[ultimale]

Originally Posted by cogito ergo sum

I don't want to get dragged into this mess of a thread, so I'm not going to respond to any comments directed at me. I merely want to state an observation. This thread is supposed be about misandry and how abused men are, yet it's turned in to a thread dedicated to misogyny. It seems the irony is lost on many of you. To judge half of the population based on the actions of some is ignorant. I don't care how you try to justify it. You're blind if you can't see the beauty in both sexes and appreciate what both halves of the whole can offer. I feel sorry for men and women who walk around resenting half of the population. Anger and resentment is toxic. Men and women are two halves of a whole. They need each other. Also, the soul is sexless. If you judge someone based on what's between their legs and ignore their spirit, then you are really missing the point and have a lot of searching to do, and maybe you should turn your criticism inward and find out what it is in you that makes you harbor anger and resentment towards such a large group of people. This applies to men and women. There's a lot of hypocrisy going on in this thread. A lot of people whining about how hard they have it. Grow up and create your own happiness and if women/men really hurt and abuse you so much, then ignore them or get out of the situation. I see a lot of whining by adults who need to get over it and start looking inward. I can't believe some of the stuff I've read on this thread. These are not "enlightened" people. I thought David Icke forums was for people who were tired of the divisiveness and the ugliness in the world. Apparently, that is not the case on this particular thread. Jeez louise. This is the most childish thing I've encountered on this site. So sad. I genuinely hope those of you who are bitter can overcome and find happiness within yourselves, then maybe you will find it easier to find happiness with another and won't resent men/women so much.

You might have skimmed through this thread, but you completely missed the point. I bet you probably read the Declaration of Independence and thought to yourself- "wow, what a bunch of whiners... shut up and pay your Tea-Tax!"

[cogito ergo sum]

Originally Posted by ultimale

You might have skimmed through this thread, but you completely missed the point. I bet you probably read the Declaration of Independence and thought to yourself- "wow, what a bunch of whiners... shut up and pay your Tea-Tax!"

Ok, now I do take offense at your ridiculous response. My ancestors Col. Johann Jacob Kluttz and Johann Leonard Kluttz fought in the Revolutionary War for the independence we all enjoy. I take great pride in the spirit of patriotism and liberty in my family. Please don't assume to know what I think of American independence. I said I wouldn't respond, but this I cannot abide. You don't even know me, yet you question my patriotism and love of liberty? It's clear that you missed MY point. Also, how do you have the nerve to compare this thread to one of the most important documents ever written? You really think that's a fair comparison? That's plain silly sir.