13-03-2012, 11:19 PM
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Collapsing after unknowing ingurgitating a drug...
Here is a case for you people demonstrating that anyone can manipulate people into hating someone... It was hot, i was sipping red wine and exceptionally asked for a roll-up. The guy who rolled up the famous cigarette, generously offered it to me. The first drag was very light, like airy, the second seemed a bit strange but to airy and nothing like "shit" "grass" or "marijuana" so i took yet another tuff. Suddenly i felt i was slipping away, feeling dizzy...then i could hardly hold up my head, i felt quizzy and was about to collapse...i made for the sitty...it was some three meters away from the terrace where i stood now bending over like a reed under a storm...i felt to the ground before i could actually reach the famour sitty...i fell to the ground between a low coffe table and the sitty without feeling any knocks or hurt...my body felt like rubber...i was loosing all sensations...my conscious seemed like a little light at the end of a dark tunnel... My doctor i consult in the aftermath of this incident spoke of "dissociation" dut to a drug of some sort. Has anyone here had such an experience do you happen to know which sort of drug could cause such a collapse. I had my heart checked and blood pressure. I also had a blood test. Nothing could explain this collapse. It took a while before i could sit up again on the sitty where my husband and the "guy" had hoisted my rubbery body. My husband help me to regain consciouness by slapping me and pinching me. Suddenly i felt my consciouness regain possession of my body. One of the probelms is that the "guy" used this event to manipulate mentally my daughter into hating me...Is he a reptilian in your opinion? I am horrified as she thinks i am just a good actress and attention seeker; Spewkkkk  What would have happen if i had be susceptible to that drug and had subsequent symptoms which could have maybe endangered my life?????the "guy" is not a brillant doctor to prescribe drugs to people...he is a fiend i am sure: what do you say? |
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13-03-2012, 11:23 PM
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sounds like ketamine.
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13-03-2012, 11:56 PM
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Hi Martg!
Thank you..what is ketamine? |
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 sorry I should have clarified Ketamine is a dissociative drug that is used recreationally sometimes. people who use it descibe a long dark tunnel with their consciousness at the end, similar to your experience, they call it a k-hole. from wiki: Quote:
P.S. as for the guy, I don't know if he's a reptilian, a psychopath or just a nut but I'd recomend cutting him out of your life.
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14-03-2012, 08:06 AM
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That's ket alright, didn't know you could smoke it though, I've snorted it before and experience was identical to what you describe.
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14-03-2012, 01:09 PM
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This is a horrible experience, rainbowdear.
OMG, how awful. ( but this thread now explains something that happened to me many years ago. I had the experience of being in long dark tunnel.. very scary... but i could see some light at the end. i got through the experience , altho i never went to a doctor. I thought it was me. Now i realise someone must hav given me a bad smoke. Bastards!!!! I have tried for years to figure this out. At last I have an answer. It was not me, it was some creep   Jeez, people can be awful. thanks to everyone in this thread, i have now figured out a very old problem that i wondered about ever since. ( never had a clue it would have been a nasty person ... )
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14-03-2012, 01:24 PM
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aye, it sounds like a disocociative anasthetic....... which country are you located?
Ketamine is very avaiable in UK/Europe and has a few analogues like MXE, which are considered legal. Ketamine is unlikely to be so hard hitting with just a smoke..... I have smoked it and it only works if you have ingested it orally or nasally - the smoke being the icing on the cake. If you are in USA I would suggest PCP (Angel Dust) is much more likely as its readily available and is noramly smoked. Both PCP and Ketamine are vetinary anisthetics with disasociative and psychadelic actions.
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14-03-2012, 02:51 PM
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PCP
Man im so glad that shit never took off here (UK) |
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14-03-2012, 08:23 PM
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14-03-2012, 10:39 PM
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Didnt know people smoked Ketamine.
Could be Opium it numbs pain, but I have never tried it so cant describe what its like. Last edited by magritte; 14-03-2012 at 10:39 PM. |
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16-03-2012, 12:00 AM
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scarred to death
Well thank you for all your replies.
Yes i did collapse. I am not a spring chicken and maybe my heart is weak - also i had a serious operation some years ago with a vital organ now missing...maybe that didn't help. I asked what caused this. Yhe guy in question could have also put it in my drink? i don't know? but the cigarette he rolled up for me seemed strange. It felt airy light as i inhaled it. I only had three drags of it. I never take drugs and i never smoke usually. On my return i went to my doc and she said that i had suffered a dissociation through taking a drug without my knowledge...she had the first idea about the cigarette. I have had 'marijuana" in the past. I used to smoke quite a lot and never ever experienced that sort of thing. I have never taken psychadelic drugs in my life. Opium doesn't do that i know by past experience and cocaine doesn't either. It is soft gentle and you don't pass out. I was actually visiting my daughter pregnant by that guy. He hates my guts obviously. The terrrible thing is that i thought i was dying. I felt my body go limp after that sick feeling, then like rubber, then i was out in a pit and the little light of what is uppose was my consciouness at the end...very far...like a little light at the end of the darkness...i felt scared...i felt i was dying... More horrible still is that my pregnant daughter had a fit...she thought i did it on purpose to "attract attention" to me...and as my husband was carrying with the guy to help on the sofa...the guy was laughing...then my husband slap me and pinched me so i would begin to feel my fody again...i was so far gone...it was aweful. Thank you again for those who have felt some compassion. Personally i wouldn't do that to my worst enemy. The guy's father died an alcoolic. My daughter refuses to give me her phone number on account of this episode. What should i do? tell her to marry him? to have another kiddy with him?or just call in the voodooman? As regards my health i hope it doesn't have damaging effects. it is to be hoped. Also i have to under go another operation very soon and i am terrified...could this druggy experience have an adverse effect on my next anesthesis? Should i tell my anesthestesit doc...i am supposed to see him on the 20th of this month? 
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16-03-2012, 12:08 AM
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At least we can share and say "yes" whatevre you might say you or you...we experienced this and it was aweful terrying and so damn silly! How do these people dare to impose on others to take such dangerous chemicals. I only use homeopathic medecine NOT to take dangerous drugs. Do you know who did this to you curtain cat? Just think in my case it is the guy who got my daughter pregnant & she believes i put it on. I regret that my husband didn't call the doc immediately or that he didn't think of keeping the dog-end...we could have had it analysed... This is the first time i have a name to put on the junk he gave me without my knowledge (i insist on this point) & yet it happen last february. It is difficult to even accept that this happened and that i was given such a drug against my will. I suppose you feel the same...like a rape of your will. You take care of your health and someone else wants to destroy you for a game. I give you a big hug as i know how difficult it is to find out about this very strong drug having been pushed on you. |
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that is just what the guy aimed at... i eventually pulled my self up on the sofa and still couldn't talk...i couldn't speak for a while...thank goodness i didn't finish the cigarette... the more i think about it the more i think the doc was right...it was the cigarette... no idea what katemine was before...well now i know and can speak about it first hand...i wouldn't use it on my cats...poor things! Anybody condonning such behaviour is like the one who drugged me just a bastard..;that is what he is a bastard! Thank you for your support all of you! i need that for it is a shock to the system...i have been abused...anesthetically abused with a drug used on horses you know!!!!!! |
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16-03-2012, 01:20 AM
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look up DMT and see if what you experienced was anything like that
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16-03-2012, 09:22 AM
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16-03-2012, 09:25 AM
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i never suggested anything.
I didn't have a clue what the drug was. However i described the experience here and to my doc. The doc spoke a a dissociation of body/spirit. Here Katemine has been mentioned. Whatever the drug used it was imposed on me by a bastard. |
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16-03-2012, 06:23 PM
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DMT?
well i had a check. No description of the symptoms though? yet it sent me onto Dreamtime which is an australian abo concept...funnily enough the "guy" was from mixed blood and of australian abo origins
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16-03-2012, 10:06 PM
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Didn't you ask the guy what was in it? Didn't your husband? Didn't anyone else take a smoke?
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16-03-2012, 11:34 PM
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No. Nothing was said. I don't like him. My daughter was pregnant and very fragile nervously speaking. She cried at the drop of a pin. I didn't want to upset the apple cart.
I knew there was something wrong but couldn't just accept that he coudl have done that. my husband is her step dad and has no authority over her or what goes on in the family; he has to keep his mouth shut you see. The children or th eyounger generation rule. They insult their elders and get away with it. That night she told the "guy" that we were lucky to get a dinner. Mind you we had travels 700 miles to visit them. Some one suggested that i should keep away from this thug...well , he is keeping "me" away from my duaghter & my new little gran-son... do you get the picture. Appart from that i had no clue or assurance of what had happened. On my return home i visited my doc and told her the story in detail. It was her, the doc who suggested i had been drugged. My husband remembers me very clearly saying that the cigarette was odd and strong, then, very strong...odd and then i felt ill, and tried to reach the sofa but collapsed between the sofa and the low coffee table; My body felt like rubber. My doc said that i described a black hole in chich i fell and a light at the end and that corresponded to a dissociation. I felt my spirit or consciouness outside of my body. I really thought i was dying. But that i recounted later at the time i felt stunned i suppose and embarrassed to say anything or be accusative. Yes i knwo not everyone might have reacted as i did. But did the person on this thread who was drugged by others a few years ago accuse them of anything at the time...and why not? |
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17-03-2012, 04:28 AM
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Also as i said i had never experienced such a thing, nor such a drug...i had "fainted"...we my hubby & i tried to understand what had happened...the heat?the little wine i had sipped?no the ciggy was most likely as i had found it odd...but i had no idea of such a drug at the time...i never have used psychadelic drugs in my life...i was
as my daughter thought i pretended to collapse i said no more...she has no compassion anyway...so there i waited to get back home and told my doc as i was worried it might have been my heart or a fall in blood pressure...that is it.anyway thank you to all. I see it helped some. |
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