In Defence of Spiritual and Philosophical Satanism

luciferhorus · 10-03-2012, 05:51 AM

In Defence of Spiritual and Philosophical Satanism. Ver. 2

Lucifer 2012

I think that the term "Satanism" when used by a Christian religious fanatic firstly needs to be understood as merely being a term which Christians use to describe anyone who has a different belief system; thus to the Christian fanatic, "Muslims are Satanists," "Freemasons are Satanists," "Hindus are Satanists," "Catholics are Satanists" and in the rather bizarre view of Fred Phelps of the Westborough Baptist Church, only the 70 or so members of his Christian cult are going to enter heaven in the afterlife, and the other 7 billion plus population of the earth is going to eternal Hell as they are all essentially "Satanists."

I should also point out that since some studies show that approximatly 25% of schizophrenics who have been institutionalised are suffering from a "religious" form of schizophrenia, that this kind of "Everybody is a Satanist except me" is not uncommon; it is associated with the ravings of paranoid schizophrenics.

Essentially since, to state the obvious, the multi-billion dollar Jesus business is essentially a business, it is quite normal for Capitalists to claim that they have a better product than anyone else and to demonise the opposition; thus a Proptestant Christian fanatic who claims that the Catholics are Satanists, is really just claiming to have a better product in the mind control business and that their particular form of religious hypnosis and indoctrination is more effective at producing the symptoms of religious schizophrenia, and instilling fear, hatred, bigotry and self hatred, etc.

Spiritual Satanism

See for example: http://www.spiritualsatanist.com/

"Atheistic or materialistic Satanists appreciate Satan as something that is symbolic, and theistic Satanists recognize Satan as something that is spiritual and religions. It is something that divides Satanists, just as the religious are divided with atheists." http://www.spiritualsatanist.blogspot.com/

http://www.joyofsatan.org/

There are numerous Internet site on this subject, so I will not elaborate too much, however from a "psychology of religion" perspective it seems to me that mdoern spiritual Satanism is a revised form of theism; it is essentially a "Protestant (protesting)" Antichristian movement which considers the Abrahamic religions to be diabolical and human hating religions which are blasphemies and heresies against the gods of nature (i.e., human beings), and which considers the biblical deity to be entirely a malevolent deity.

Generally for the spiritual Satanist, their deity is a deity of love; it is a deity which loves human beings, but which despises religious fanatics. It is very much a deity which encourages human nature, human desire and human erotic freedom, without any of the various "sins of restricitions" imposed by the religious fanatics of the Biblical and Islamic faiths. The Abrahamic dieties are considered to be malevolent human-nature hating deities and abominations.

Philosophical / Humanistic Satanism

Frankly I find that the humanistic Satanists such as the Anton Lavey crowd are almost indistinguishable from philosophical humanists such as the High Priests of atheism, Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchins and Sam Harris. Dawkins describes the Biblical deity as "arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” and I think that this is certainly a conclusion reached by all philosophical and spiritual Satanists and it is a humanist conclusion which I think any intelligent humanist would reach after reading the diabolical texts of the Bible.

Secular Humanism

"Secular (non religious) Humanism" is also defined as a form of Satanism by some religious fanatics. Essentially humanism is dependent only on human reason, intuition and science to discern what is right or wrong, and what is "true." and which rejects the plethora of religious ramblings and laws by the world's religious fanatics. I think another positive defintion of "humanism" could be that "humanists love human beings" and tend to despits religious fanaticism and the various anthropomorphic projections of human hating and human nature-hating deities, promoted by religious schizophrenics.

Freemasonry as "Satanism (i.e., good)" or Godism (i.e., evil).

Since this is also a "secret societies" forum, and the Freemasons are commonly described as "Satanists" by the proponents of competing forms of religious cultism and religious fanaticism, I should point out that "regular Freemasonry" is essentially a sect of Christianity whose higher echelons admit only Christian religious fanatics.

Since the Freemasons seem to be mostly theists (God-ists) it is then important to define what "God" is to them, and it seems to me, based upon the behaviour of their members that the Masonic god is the god of gangster Capitalism, loan sharking, genocidal Anglo-American Imperialism, anti-Communist state terrorism, narco-terrorism, etc., (for who else would love them), however this is quite a standard definition of "God" to many Christians and to the US Christian right, since the economic ideologies of Gangster Capitalism and anti-Communism seem to be entirely entwined with Christianity.

His Imperial Satanic Majesty

Lucifer

blackyblue · 10-03-2012, 06:58 AM

There can be no defence against a religion based around tyrants and peadophiles whom hide behind the guise of 'Humanity'...

In Anton Laveys own words 'We are animals'.....

Although Anton Lavey did not look the brightest of sparks himself, and also the people he used to 'party' with looked a little less desirable, and a little strange, i am sure he would have acquired that line from someone else

Also in the words of Roger Morneau, the last truth Satanists find out is the truth about themselves

luciferhorus · 10-03-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by blackyblue

There can be no defence against a religion based around tyrants and peadophiles whom hide behind the guise of 'Humanity'...

The bible god promotes the idea of rape, gang rape, incest, genocidal holy war and paedophilia; it is an entirely obscene, primitive and barbaric deity, and yet bible god fans claim that this god is their absolute standard of goodness.

A bible god fan does not seem to have a problem with rape, incest and padophilia when their subhuman god commands it, but will consider similar behaviour obscene when it is not bible god fanatics who are doing it.

Why the double standard?

With regards to "tyranny;" theocratic monarchy is the chosen political system of the bible god, not quite the modern day western system of the democratic republics; further when the fictional religious fanatic Jesus returns from the dead, the bible predicts that he will defeat all his enemies and become a global theocratic tyrant.

Why the double standard?

It is seems that tyranny and paedophilia are only OK for the bible god fanatics when their god approves of it.

Lux

theprophetofdeath · 11-01-2013, 08:58 PM

the 'god' of the bible, does Not promote rape and violence, only ignorants would want you to believe so and only ignorance would promote that seeing as they do not know scripture nor do they know the difference between the Creators Law and the law of Moses. and the 'god' of the bible? you need to be a lot more specific, do you mean Samson, or another judge or mighty one? or are you trying to make a reference to the Almighty Father, whom if you search out has a Name and it is not god nor lord for those are merely titles given unto men. Seek Truth before you go making yourself more ignorant than you deceitfully think youre not! and dont try the whole judge me not, for scripture says Judge Rightly, and, to bring truth to the sinner, love them, but reprove them, hate the sin but love the sinner, like a good parent chastises and recorrects their children out of love... and the word satan, only means Adversary, so many satanists should really study truth and the words they use, truly, what are they an adversary of, wisdom? intelligence? understanding? love? a 'god' they know nothing of? pity... Shalom.

theprophetofdeath · 11-01-2013, 09:14 PM

TRUE IGNORANCE such as the quoted post following my words is a most sick generation, who in any right mind would claim such idiocy and false ideas but a child of satan who may not even know it, or if they do, are just blind and sick and in need of the guidance of Truth and not fallacy and evil wickedness. There is a Big difference between the law of Moses and the Law of the Almighty Father, and if you want to try to take the route well 'god' created everything even lucifer, then realize the Father gave a choice, you can Love Him and do what is good and righteous and live eternally or you can be like lucifer and Choose to do things your own way and condemn yourself to a miserable eternity instead of a blessed one, so, the choice is really yours, not any other blame for any other thing than your own. do not be deceived. Seek Truth. A belief is not Truth, beliefs change, truth does not. as i said, the one who made the post below is ignorant and leading others to follow ignorance, and may the Almighty Father find a way to reprove such wicked souls if He sees fit, it is all under His Will, but we to do good are to at least attempt to reprove such ignorant souls with Truth so that they may know, although the chances are slim, for Many are called but Few are chosen, that means right now, 97% of the earths population right now and for every generation past present and future is bound for hell, and little do they know, it is truly entirely their own fault for their disobedience when it is their choice to be righteous or evil, and not self righteous either. Death to the sin nature in repentance and be reborn to a righteous spirit willing to obey Right and Truth as Commanded by the Almighty Father. again, kill off the old man and be reborn to truth and good and right and LOVE. Shalom.
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Quote:

Originally Posted by luciferhorus

The bible god promotes the idea of rape, gang rape, incest, genocidal holy war and paedophilia; it is an entirely obscene, primitive and barbaric deity, and yet bible god fans claim that this god is their absolute standard of goodness.

A bible god fan does not seem to have a problem with rape, incest and padophilia when their subhuman god commands it, but will consider similar behaviour obscene when it is not bible god fanatics who are doing it.

Why the double standard?

With regards to "tyranny;" theocratic monarchy is the chosen political system of the bible god, not quite the modern day western system of the democratic republics; further when the fictional religious fanatic Jesus returns from the dead, the bible predicts that he will defeat all his enemies and become a global theocratic tyrant.

Why the double standard?

It is seems that tyranny and paedophilia are only OK for the bible god fanatics when their god approves of it.

Lux

10-03-2012, 05:51 AM	#1
luciferhorus Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Glastonbury, UK Posts: 4,349	In Defence of Spiritual and Philosophical Satanism In Defence of Spiritual and Philosophical Satanism. Ver. 2 Lucifer 2012 I think that the term "Satanism" when used by a Christian religious fanatic firstly needs to be understood as merely being a term which Christians use to describe anyone who has a different belief system; thus to the Christian fanatic, "Muslims are Satanists," "Freemasons are Satanists," "Hindus are Satanists," "Catholics are Satanists" and in the rather bizarre view of Fred Phelps of the Westborough Baptist Church, only the 70 or so members of his Christian cult are going to enter heaven in the afterlife, and the other 7 billion plus population of the earth is going to eternal Hell as they are all essentially "Satanists." I should also point out that since some studies show that approximatly 25% of schizophrenics who have been institutionalised are suffering from a "religious" form of schizophrenia, that this kind of "Everybody is a Satanist except me" is not uncommon; it is associated with the ravings of paranoid schizophrenics. Essentially since, to state the obvious, the multi-billion dollar Jesus business is essentially a business, it is quite normal for Capitalists to claim that they have a better product than anyone else and to demonise the opposition; thus a Proptestant Christian fanatic who claims that the Catholics are Satanists, is really just claiming to have a better product in the mind control business and that their particular form of religious hypnosis and indoctrination is more effective at producing the symptoms of religious schizophrenia, and instilling fear, hatred, bigotry and self hatred, etc. Spiritual Satanism See for example: http://www.spiritualsatanist.com/ "Atheistic or materialistic Satanists appreciate Satan as something that is symbolic, and theistic Satanists recognize Satan as something that is spiritual and religions. It is something that divides Satanists, just as the religious are divided with atheists." http://www.spiritualsatanist.blogspot.com/ http://www.joyofsatan.org/ There are numerous Internet site on this subject, so I will not elaborate too much, however from a "psychology of religion" perspective it seems to me that mdoern spiritual Satanism is a revised form of theism; it is essentially a "Protestant (protesting)" Antichristian movement which considers the Abrahamic religions to be diabolical and human hating religions which are blasphemies and heresies against the gods of nature (i.e., human beings), and which considers the biblical deity to be entirely a malevolent deity. Generally for the spiritual Satanist, their deity is a deity of love; it is a deity which loves human beings, but which despises religious fanatics. It is very much a deity which encourages human nature, human desire and human erotic freedom, without any of the various "sins of restricitions" imposed by the religious fanatics of the Biblical and Islamic faiths. The Abrahamic dieties are considered to be malevolent human-nature hating deities and abominations. Philosophical / Humanistic Satanism Frankly I find that the humanistic Satanists such as the Anton Lavey crowd are almost indistinguishable from philosophical humanists such as the High Priests of atheism, Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchins and Sam Harris. Dawkins describes the Biblical deity as "arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” and I think that this is certainly a conclusion reached by all philosophical and spiritual Satanists and it is a humanist conclusion which I think any intelligent humanist would reach after reading the diabolical texts of the Bible. Secular Humanism "Secular (non religious) Humanism" is also defined as a form of Satanism by some religious fanatics. Essentially humanism is dependent only on human reason, intuition and science to discern what is right or wrong, and what is "true." and which rejects the plethora of religious ramblings and laws by the world's religious fanatics. I think another positive defintion of "humanism" could be that "humanists love human beings" and tend to despits religious fanaticism and the various anthropomorphic projections of human hating and human nature-hating deities, promoted by religious schizophrenics. Freemasonry as "Satanism (i.e., good)" or Godism (i.e., evil). Since this is also a "secret societies" forum, and the Freemasons are commonly described as "Satanists" by the proponents of competing forms of religious cultism and religious fanaticism, I should point out that "regular Freemasonry" is essentially a sect of Christianity whose higher echelons admit only Christian religious fanatics. Since the Freemasons seem to be mostly theists (God-ists) it is then important to define what "God" is to them, and it seems to me, based upon the behaviour of their members that the Masonic god is the god of gangster Capitalism, loan sharking, genocidal Anglo-American Imperialism, anti-Communist state terrorism, narco-terrorism, etc., (for who else would love them), however this is quite a standard definition of "God" to many Christians and to the US Christian right, since the economic ideologies of Gangster Capitalism and anti-Communism seem to be entirely entwined with Christianity. His Imperial Satanic Majesty Lucifer Last edited by luciferhorus; 10-03-2012 at 09:41 AM.

10-03-2012, 06:58 AM	#2
blackyblue Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Leith Posts: 11,686	There can be no defence against a religion based around tyrants and peadophiles whom hide behind the guise of 'Humanity'... In Anton Laveys own words 'We are animals'..... Although Anton Lavey did not look the brightest of sparks himself, and also the people he used to 'party' with looked a little less desirable, and a little strange, i am sure he would have acquired that line from someone else Also in the words of Roger Morneau, the last truth Satanists find out is the truth about themselves __________________ ‎"One should never believe everything one reads on the internet." -Abraham Lincoln Last edited by blackyblue; 10-03-2012 at 07:03 AM.

11-01-2013, 08:58 PM	#4
theprophetofdeath Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2	the biblical 'god' does Not promote rape. the 'god' of the bible, does Not promote rape and violence, only ignorants would want you to believe so and only ignorance would promote that seeing as they do not know scripture nor do they know the difference between the Creators Law and the law of Moses. and the 'god' of the bible? you need to be a lot more specific, do you mean Samson, or another judge or mighty one? or are you trying to make a reference to the Almighty Father, whom if you search out has a Name and it is not god nor lord for those are merely titles given unto men. Seek Truth before you go making yourself more ignorant than you deceitfully think youre not! and dont try the whole judge me not, for scripture says Judge Rightly, and, to bring truth to the sinner, love them, but reprove them, hate the sin but love the sinner, like a good parent chastises and recorrects their children out of love... and the word satan, only means Adversary, so many satanists should really study truth and the words they use, truly, what are they an adversary of, wisdom? intelligence? understanding? love? a 'god' they know nothing of? pity... Shalom.