Masons Are Cowards

[ftil]

Originally posted by welling
ftil, have you worked out the Lamassu connection yet?

No yet. Enlightenment cults can be......... captivating.

BTW, some men may be jealous.

[pepsi78]

Originally Posted by ksigmason

No that is fact. The Royal Arch has nothing to do with the Royal Order of the Jesters. One is an invitational group of the Shriners, one is a body of the York Rite.

I'm sure you get a cap, just like the king of the jungle get's one. It's fantastic how you are able to fake every answer and play stupid.

[qupte]
Isn't Jehovah just the romanized of YHWH, also transcribed Yahweh? Isn't this the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? The Christian God?

Jehovah/Yahweh is the masonic god, I did not ask of what religion he is ? Hiding behind religion again are you ,You skipped the answer again. People should note how you fake every answer.
As I stated, Jehovah is your master, and you preach to everyone that you worship god.

And you say I backtracked. You did indeed say Satan is Saturn in many posts. Let's look at this lie of yours:

I'm sorry but you and also your fellow masonic friend are grossly exagerating. And yes in culture, astrology and even in the bible Satan is equated to Saturn.
Astrology

http://www.factsbehindfaith.com/Satan-astrology.html
Satan, the Devil, is easily recognised as a portrait of massive Saturn, the higher dimension of this spirit, beyond the personal astrology of the horoscope.

Satan, the Devil, is always portrayed with the horns, cloven hooves and goaty legs which reflect Saturn’s nature as lord of Capricorn, the Goat. This does not brand Capricorns : with the Sun in this Sign, they are often more enlightened about this materialistic spirit.

Saturn is not the largest planet but astrologically Earth is ruled by the same spirit of materialism, money and power. Saturn’s spirit has an overwhelming influence on us.

Saturn and agriculture, the bible and Saturn/Satan

http://www.wordsources.info/saturn.html
Harvest time in ancient Italy belonged to the god of reaping, whom the Romans called Saturn. A symbol curved like his sickle represents the planet.

Mat 13:39 And the hostile one who sowed them is the Devil, and the harvest is the end of the age, and the angels are the reapers.
Mat 13:40 Then as the darnel is gathered and is consumed in the fire, so it will be in the completion of this age.

Egyptian Seth = Satan /Saturn

http://www.aldokkan.com/religion/seth.htm
- However during the development of the early Hebrew religion by Moses, whose main enemies were Seti 2 and Setnakhte, the ancient god of the desert was conveniently demonized and converted into the Hebrew Satan, while the Pharoahs enemies the Hebrews, who at that time embraced the cult of Seth, became devil worshipers. Throughout the Torah of Moses, Satan (Seth) challenges God (Amun-Ra) to test the true loyalty of his followers

Seth was a representation of Saturn in Egypt. Saturn was associated with the devil.

Masonry a Satanic institution, it has incorporated into it's rituals symbols that are symbolic of Saturn. Masonry worships Yahweh and the devil.

[ksigmason]

Originally Posted by pepsi78

I'm sure you get a cap, just like the king of the jungle get's one.

Not for the Royal Arch. There are many bodies in Masonry that use a hat in some form, but not the Royal Arch.

Originally Posted by pepsi78

Jehovah/Yahweh is the masonic god, not of what religions he is ? You skiped the answer again. People should note how you fake every answer.
As I stated, Jehovah is your master, and you preach to everyone that you worship god.

Jehovah, Yahweh, Elohim, the Almighty, its the God of the Abrahamic Religions.

Originally Posted by pepsi78

I'm sorry but you and also your fellow masonic friend are grossly exagerating. And yes in culture, astrology and even in the bible Satan is equated to Saturn.

So you're saying they are the same, but earlier you said they weren't.

Quit playing your little games. You were caught in a lie and now your trying to distract.

[ftil]

Those enlightenment cults are truly captivating.



Rodez Cathedral, Aveyron









Statuette of Osiris with phallus and amulets









The sculpture may depict Osiris, who had been murdered, making his wife Isis pregnant after his death, which later resulted in the birth of Horus. This Ancient Egyptian myth was associated with fertility and resurrection. The six smaller figures are probably priests; two of them restrain and hold an oryx, which signifies the destruction of evil and Osiris's triumph. Early Ptolemaic period (305–30 BCE).




Statue of a Satyr, Athens Archaeological Museum










Satyr, 560 and 550 BC








Hermaphroditus, the statuette is said to be from Erythrai, Asia Minor. Late Hellenistic to Early Imperial period










Bronze figurine with phalluses (Naples Archaeological Museum, Italy; from Pompeii. The Pompeian Mercury tintinnabulum. It has an attachment for a bell on his phallus, and also attachments on the two long phallic ‘antlers’ on his head.

[pepsi78]

Originally Posted by ksigmason

Not for the Royal Arch. There are many bodies in Masonry that use a hat in some form, but not the Royal Arch.

No I'm sure you get one, I'm not saying a hat, but you're just playing dumb mister king.

Jehovah, Yahweh, Elohim, the Almighty, its the God of the Abrahamic Religions.

My question was not regarding religions, what I stated that the masonic god is Jehovah. As a result you chose to reply off topic with religion.

Your fraternity worships Jehovah. It's what I was saying, not what religion Jehovah is part of.

You answered in this way to cover your self, meaning that yes the masonic god is Jehovah.

You still refuse to answer the question.

Quit playing your little games. You were caught in a lie and now your trying to distract.

What lie, stop making things up, I unlike you answer, Saturn was a depiction of the devil in the sections provided by me. Astrology, ancient culture and the bible.

[ftil]

Pepsi, you better stop that BS. If you want to lie say at least 50% truth. But you hardly reach 10%.

Lies are not for everybody. Read what B. Franklin said. He was a mason........he knew.

Half a truth is often a great lie.
Benjamin Franklin

[ksigmason]

Pepsi, don't worry, I won't always hold the fact that you were caught in a lie. Denial won't help though. You'll eventually have to face that you lied and cross that bridge.

[pepsi78]

Originally Posted by ftil

Pepsi, you better stop that BS. If you want to lie say at least 50% truth. But you hardly reach 10%.

Lies are not for everybody. Read what B. Franklin said. He was a mason........he knew.

Half a truth is often a great lie.
Benjamin Franklin

You could be a mason under cover. Others had said so in this thread, I think they are right.

[pepsi78]

Originally Posted by ksigmason

Pepsi, don't worry, I won't always hold the fact that you were caught in a lie. Denial won't help though. You'll eventually have to face that you lied and cross that bridge.

Your statement is backed up by zero evidence. What I said is that Saturn is a representation of Satan, this translates that Saturn is symbolic of Satan. Saturn in science is a planet.

[ftil]

Well, what I can expect from you. First, you have read this tread so that you couldn’t miss the attacks I have received from masons. Second, I don’t lie neither I do create confusion like you do. Stop your hopeless attempt to discredit me. You have already done it. Do you really think that people can’t see what you are doing here? Calling me a mason is like calling me Jehovah Witness. People like I never join cults. I may explore cults, particularly, enlightenment cults I have posted. I had lot's of fun.

Finally, people who want to lie need to have a brilliant mind because they need to remember what they said. You don’t remember and you think that others can’t see it.

BTW, you haven’t been interested in finding what lamassu did in Masonic lodge. Very intriguing question for non mason and I still haven’t figured it out. But you are busy to distract.

[pepsi78]

Well like the other members said, you do look and act like one.
I think you just act on debating with the masons, with softer aproches to make it look that you are in an argument with them.

Masons do that, they come to these forums so they can infiltrate them.

[ftil]

Originally posted by pepsi

Well like the other members said, you do look and act like one.
I think you just act on debating with the masons, with softer aproches to make it look that you are in an argument with them.

Masons do that, they come to these forums so they can infiltrate them.

LOL!!!!!! I don’t look like masons. I think for myself but I don’t expect you can understand it.

Softer approach.......too bad that many posts were removed by mods because it was everything else but softer approach.

You must be totally out of ammunition and idea how to spread lies here.




My gift for you....later I will post Harry Potter for you so that you can relax you hard working brain.

[pepsi78]

Well that is your opinion, the way the goat (Capricorn) is related to Saturn, but your lack understanding why, you just know it is.

http://www.astrologycom.com/cap.html
The tenth sign of the zodiac, Capricorn is ruled by powerful Saturn, the planet of structure and responsibility, but it is the exaltation of Mars

Osiris was not always the god of the dead, before he was a dead guy, Osiris was alive, so it is with our pan.

Please make a dinstinction between the king and the crown. I am not my clothing Likewise the crown is put on the king's head.

You still don't understand the concept behind the devil.


Satan:


Please don't confuse mother nature with Satan, she looks like it but it's not it.
She is the other version but the live one, the more gentle one that feeds us.

You used your whole intelect capacity of 4%
Here it is.


I'm sure you will not understand anything I said, who cares it's not for you to understand anyway, but for others visiting the thread.

You have a clear ill judgment of things that you use.


Saturn from above:



First sumerian deity, the dragon, the start and construct of society.

[ftil]

I am not going to play your game.

Enjoy DI forum.

Originally Posted by weeman
Moderator Note:

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Be responsible for your posts.

If you cannot post topically and politely, moderators will intervene.

Cheers.

[welling]

[QUOTE=pepsi78;1060718093]Well that is your opinion, the way the goat (Capricorn) is related to Saturn, but your lack understanding why, you just know it is.



Osiris was not always the god of the dead, before he was a dead guy, Osiris was alive, so it is with our pan.
Please make a dinstinction between the king and the crown. I am not my clothing Likewise the crown is put on the king's head.

You still don't understand the concept behind the devil.


Please don't confuse mother nature with Satan, she looks like it but it's not it.
She is the other version but the live one, the more gentle one that feeds us.

You used your whole intelect capacity of 4%


I'm sure you will not understand anything I said, who cares it's not for you to understand anyway, but for others visiting the thread.

You have a clear ill judgment of things that you use.




A candidate for the most unintelligible and ridiculous post of the year so far, surely?

[pepsi78]

You quoted me off topic, play on topic or do not respond.
Responding on topic includes on the subject, of why it is so like you say, not with" no it's not" and then using sarcasm.

You are a troll welling, I may add a masonic troll. Answer on topic you troll.

Masons have ruined ATS, it was my favorite forum, I hope the masonic troll brigade don't ruin this one too.

Here is your quote, I find it lacking the subject, it's just an insult without anything at all.
If you wish to insult me do with along with evidence to sustain your cause.

A candidate for the most unintelligible and ridiculous post of the year so far, surely?

[welling]

Originally Posted by pepsi78

You quoted me off topic, play on topic or do not respond.
Responding on topic includes on the subject, of why it is so like you say, not with" no it's not" and then using sarcasm.

You are a troll welling, I may add a masonic troll. Answer on topic you troll.

Masons have ruined ATS, it was my favorite forum, I hope the masonic troll brigade don't ruin this one too.

Here is your quote, I find it lacking the subject, it's just an insult without anything at all.
If you wish to insult me do with along with evidence to sustain your cause.

Dear pepsi, I'm not insulting you just stating that your post is unintelligible and ridiculous. The evidence is your post and there for all to see.

See the highlighted bit above? I think that is called an insult without evidence dear

I think you may be getting the word 'Masons' mixed up with the phrase 'people with intelligence'

Anyway, I'm lost now, what are you going to post about next?

[pepsi78]

Originally Posted by welling

Dear pepsi, I'm not insulting you just stating that your post is unintelligible and ridiculous. The evidence is your post and there for all to see.

See the highlighted bit above? I think that is called an insult without evidence dear

I think you may be getting the word 'Masons' mixed up with the phrase 'people with intelligence'

Anyway, I'm lost now, what are you going to post about next?

Please elaborate by going into detail of why my post is such. Bring examples of key posting done by my self and show why.

All I see from you is "no it's not"

Quote me on key points, none of what you wrote in your post contains such information, it is why you are a troll, it's what trolls do.

Osiris was not always the god of the dead, before he was a dead guy, Osiris was alive, so it is with our pan.

Yes, Osiris was not always the judge of the underworld, just like pan was not always the perverted homosexual goat.
And this is what my statement talks about.

Please don't confuse mother nature with Satan, she looks like it but it's not it.

Yes mother nature is also a serpent, but she is not the dragon.

Here she is:


see nothing wrong with my posts, just you trolling them, that's what is wrong.

You know I like to train trolls like you, what do you say, just like masonry trains you let me train you.

Here we go for our first example.

Mother nature:


Satan (the dragon):


See the diference ?

[psquared]

"Answer on topic you troll."


On topic? The TOPIC of this thread is that we are cowards. Something that hasn't been discussed on probably 30 pages. Although I have seen a lot of talk about Saturn and a lot of postings of regalia (which is fun to look at but still off topic) Neither of which have much to to with the actual topic of the thread. This train derailed a long time ago.

Why are Masons Cowards?

Lets see if we can get back to the REAL topic as the OP wanted it.

[pepsi78]

Originally Posted by psquared

"Answer on topic you troll."


On topic? The TOPIC of this thread is that we are cowards. Something that hasn't been discussed on probably 30 pages. Although I have seen a lot of talk about Saturn and a lot of postings of regalia (which is fun to look at but still off topic) Neither of which have much to to with the actual topic of the thread. This train derailed a long time ago.

Why are Masons Cowards?

Lets see if we can get back to the REAL topic as the OP wanted it.

Yes we are on topic because masons hide behind the walls of denial. What we post exposes this, that you hide behind the dark wall.

Exposure is done by debating these things.