Jesus Words Will Not Pass Away

[kitabatake]

Originally Posted by blackyblue

It has been known.

I appreciate the fact you say you dont hate other religions, this is a good thing as it means people from other religions will be more open to discussing things with you and listening, as you are debating like an adult and not accusing like someone making war.

As I said, my war is not with the masses. They are not at fault. They cannot help what their preachers have planted into their minds. Or what their priests have cast over their souls. Shepherds of flocks indeed. Sheep can live on their own well enough. The need for a master is only in their minds. The domestic sheep falls prey to the wolves more often that the wild ram.

[cwl3]

Originally Posted by kitabatake

Again your ignorance blinds you to the truth. There are reasons why I hide my religion from the people I know in real life. Damn good reasons that you know nothing about. Your doubts about me are meaningless. You will serve your purpose on this earth like all the rest.

OK then what is this truth you keep talking about? I would appreciate it if you would share that with me here.

And BTW you're right about at least something here, that there are reasons you hide your religion that I know nothing about, but you see i'm not the type of person who has things to hide - this wasn't always the case, but i've worked at life so that my life is no longer like that, because I feel it is liberating and honest.

BTW, have you came up with a plan to win this war you mention and does the first part mean revealing who you really are in real life I wonder?

[kitabatake]

Originally Posted by cwl3

OK then what is this truth you keep talking about? I would appreciate it if you would share that with me here.

And BTW you're right about at least something here, that there are reasons you hide your religion that I know nothing about, but you see i'm not the type of person who has things to hide - this wasn't always the case, but i've worked at life so that my life is no longer like that, because I feel it is liberating and honest.

Only the guilty need to confess. I have nothing to confess. My deception is for my own self preservation. To be honest it is none of your damned business and so I owe you no further explanations. What is the truth? You want to know the truth? Figure it out yourself. I did. I am not an evangelist. I am not a missionary. I could care less what happens to you or if you ever understand what I have been trying to say on these forums. If you cannot read my words, and understand, then you are no less than a mind to be bent. I know that nothing I say makes any sense to you. That fact amuses me. I thought that most people here would get it but that is not the case. You are the most ignorant that I have come across so far. Applause.

[blackyblue]

Originally Posted by cwl3

OK then what is this truth you keep talking about? I would appreciate it if you would share that with me here.

And BTW you're right about at least something here, that there are reasons you hide your religion that I know nothing about, but you see i'm not the type of person who has things to hide - this wasn't always the case, but i've worked at life so that my life is no longer like that, because I feel it is liberating and honest.

BTW, have you came up with a plan to win this war you mention and does the first part mean revealing who you really are in real life I wonder?

This is good.

The first thing about being an honest person is being honest with yourself. Of course if you are honest with yourself you will have no problem projecting your true and honest self in public.

I think this is why you print such an accurate description on things on this forum, because you have no pretences or agendas, nothing is too simple to just say it the way it is and say it how you see it..

I am in no way insulting the person you are debating with either, i know Kita has some issues just now, but i find him in someways quite likable and i know behind his extreme views there is also an intelligent man...

Although i do not necesseraly agree wholeheartedly with his current views however, but no biggy

[cwl3]

Originally Posted by kitabatake

Only the guilty need to confess. I have nothing to confess. My deception is for my own self preservation. To be honest it is none of your damned business and so I owe you no further explanations. What is the truth? You want to know the truth? Figure it out yourself. I did. I am not an evangelist. I am not a missionary. I could care less what happens to you or if you ever understand what I have been trying to say on these forums. If you cannot read my words, and understand, then you are no less than a mind to be bent. I know that nothing I say makes any sense to you. That fact amuses me. I thought that most people here would get it but that is not the case. You are the most ignorant that I have come across so far. Applause.

OK, peace my friend

[kitabatake]

Originally Posted by blackyblue

This is good.

The first thing about being an honest person is being honest with yourself. Of course if you are honest with yourself you will have no problem projecting your true and honest self in public.

I think this is why you print such an accurate description on things on this forum, because you have no pretences or agendas, nothing is too simple to just say it the way it is and say it how you see it..

I am in no way insulting the person you are debating with either, i know Kita has some issues just now, but i find him in someways quite likable and i know behind his extreme views there is also an intelligent man...

Although i do not necesseraly agree wholeheartedly with his current views however, but no biggy

And I respect your opinions as well. You seem to believe that I have "issues." I can assure you that my beliefs and my path are just as legitimate as any christian belief system. I know that I must sound quite angry to most people on this forum. But this is because it is a hard battle that I fight. I know what is coming and I know the decisions that I will have to make. Hard decisions. But that is my personal problem. I wouldn't even mention that except that I want everyone who is reading this thread to understand that I am dead serious in everything that I am saying. There are things I feel led to say because a few will understand. A few will make the same decision that I did. They probably won't even say anything about it either. The truth about "god" is far darker than the masses want to admit. Or can admit. This world has been deceived from day one of the human race. Lucifer wasn't the one who cracked the chasm between man and "god." "god" himself chose to create this chasm. He chose to separate man from himself. If he has it his way, only ten percent of all of mankind that has ever existed will ever avoid eternal damnation. That is the truth of it all and so few are able to accept that with a sane mind. That is why Lucifer rebelled. It had nothing to do with Pride. Lucifer cares about mankind. You know why? The angels created this world. The angels love this world. "god" wants to destroy it and everything that was created. The angels love all that was made. Lucifer loves all that was made. Lucifer is the God of this world and he will die before he lets it burn.

If you still do not get it then you are hopeless. If you still think that I have "issues", and that I am going through a "rough patch" that I will someday "come out of", then you are again hopeless. I have never been more serious about anything in my entire life. The masses of humanity are deceived beyond comprehension. The multitudes have never known Freedom.

[saint_frankenstein]

Originally Posted by kitabatake

Lucifer wasn't the one who cracked the chasm between man and "god." "god" himself chose to create this chasm. He chose to separate man from himself. If he has it his way, only ten percent of all of mankind that has ever existed will ever avoid eternal damnation. That is the truth of it all and so few are able to accept that with a sane mind. That is why Lucifer rebelled. It had nothing to do with Pride. Lucifer cares about mankind. You know why? The angels created this world. The angels love this world. "god" wants to destroy it and everything that was created. The angels love all that was made. Lucifer loves all that was made. Lucifer is the God of this world and he will die before he lets it burn.

That's a very beautiful and heroic image of Lucifer and the Angels and it's far preferable to the ugliness of the bible and the Qur'an. Ave Lucifer!

[kitabatake]

Originally Posted by saint_frankenstein

That's a very beautiful and heroic image of Lucifer and the Angels and it's far preferable to the ugliness of the bible and the Qur'an. Ave Lucifer!

I believe that "god" went insane when he decided to create this world. I personally believe that it was the angels who did the actual creating. "god" supplied the "blueprints" so to speak. But something "snapped" inside of him. Then so began the carnage that is the Age of Man.

[saint_frankenstein]

Originally Posted by kitabatake

I believe that "god" went insane when he decided to create this world. I personally believe that it was the angels who did the actual creating. "god" supplied the "blueprints" so to speak. But something "snapped" inside of him. Then so began the carnage that is the Age of Man.

I've haven't heard someone claim that the Angels did the creating. That's a new take.

When do you think the Age of Man began?

[kitabatake]

Originally Posted by saint_frankenstein

I've haven't heard someone claim that the Angels did the creating. That's a new take.

When do you think the Age of Man began?

When the first two humans ate from the forbidden tree. I used to ponder the creation story in the ancient texts but I realize now that it's true. But it was told from the wrong perspective. It was a good thing that Eve ate that fruit. "god" wanted us to be ignorant. Once mankind gained that knowledge, "god" became afraid, and I believe that is when he went insane. That is when he became what he is now. A mass murdering zealot.

[saint_frankenstein]

Originally Posted by kitabatake

When the first two humans ate from the forbidden tree. I used to ponder the creation story in the ancient texts but I realize now that it's true. But it was told from the wrong perspective. It was a good thing that Eve ate that fruit. "god" wanted us to be ignorant. Once mankind gained that knowledge, "god" became afraid, and I believe that is when he went insane. That is when he became what he is now. A mass murdering zealot.

That's certainly a plausible take on it. I do believe that there was a point when humans were granted "forbidden knowledge", but the exact nature of those who granted it and those who wish to keep it from us is unclear. It obvious that it happened, and is still occurring, though.

[kitabatake]

Originally Posted by saint_frankenstein

That's certainly a plausible take on it. I do believe that there was a point when humans were granted "forbidden knowledge", but the exact nature of those who granted it and those who wish to keep it from us is unclear. It obvious that it happened, and is still occurring, though.

I am at the point where if I tried to become a christian, I would be rejected, as I have multiple times blasphemed the trinity. There have been times where I grew weak and was scared back to religion. Do you know what happened every time? There was a searing flame and a cold rejection, if you can imagine such, that started in my solar plexus. It spread through my entire body on a soul level. That is when I understood what it is like to be a fallen angel. I am a fallen man. I cannot go back. When I exorcised the "holy" spirit from my body, it was a blasphemy of the highest order, and I committed the "unforgivable sin." When you become weak, and try to go back, you cannot. But I felt Lucifer embrace me at that point. He took no offense at my moment of weakness. Lucifer forgives every transgression. "god" does not. Who is more merciful?

[saint_frankenstein]

Originally Posted by kitabatake

I am at the point where if I tried to become a christian, I would be rejected, as I have multiple times blasphemed the trinity. There have been times where I grew weak and was scared back to religion. Do you know what happened every time? There was a searing flame and a cold rejection, if you can imagine such, that started in my solar plexus. It spread through my entire body on a soul level. That is when I understood what it is like to be a fallen angel. I am a fallen man. I cannot go back. When I exorcised the "holy" spirit from my body, it was a blasphemy of the highest order, and I committed the "unforgivable sin." When you become weak, and try to go back, you cannot. But I felt Lucifer embrace me at that point. He took no offense at my moment of weakness. Lucifer forgives every transgression. "god" does not. Who is more merciful?

I've never had any experience like that. I would believe that I've had experiences with the Christian trinity, such as "voices", "nice" feelings and dreams. But nothing truly more than that. I have always been more interested in the "darker" side of things. When I was a teenager, I was basically a pantheist and an extreme existentialist (thanks to Icke, the Matrix films and TOOL ) and I hated Christianity. I'm still not sure why I converted to Catholicism. It was a very odd chapter in my life. I did enjoy the art and the ritual, but I think I was trying to run away from myself. I eventually started going back to having my own beliefs and going against more and more of what the church teaches. All of this basically added up to me rejecting Catholicism on an intellectual level, and needing to stop feeling guilty over who and what I am. I can't be a part of an organization that causes so much pain and division in the world, and seeks to deny people their rights. I can't do it. I also didn't see evidence of god transforming my life in a positive fashion, and was sick of all the judgmental attitudes and hypocrisy I saw.

Also, since I've pretty much always struggled with depression, I figured that it wasn't very good for my mental health to fixate on a corpse on a stick and berate myself over it. I need more positive, life-affirming archetypes to inspire me. I was always drawn to Greek mythology and it's stories of heroism, and the high culture it produced. I feel an attraction to the God, Pan, for instance because I can relate to him on many levels and I feel that he encourages me to embrace myself, in terms of my sexuality and not feeling insecure about my looks, and to have a more cheerful view of life. So I love goats. I've always felt like a goat in this society, anyway.

[nascido da luz]

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" Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by this some have entertained angels without knowing it. "

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[kitabatake]

Originally Posted by nascido da luz

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" Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by this some have entertained angels without knowing it. "

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Oh yes the little morality game that we have to play on earth. "god" repays the favor by bathing the world in blood and throw 90 percent of the entire human race into a lake of fire after everyone is humiliated and judged.

[nascido da luz]

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seams like all words have been said...

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[cwl3]

Originally Posted by nascido da luz

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" Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by this some have entertained angels without knowing it. "

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This is an inspiring comment for the good of humanity, please keep sharing

[charl]

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