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Old 01-05-2012, 07:01 PM   #301
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So, in the world today, how many nuclear reactors have spent fuel pools in close proximity with pumps and monitoring equipment that are powered by the same electrical supply and backup systems?
It's insane. Is it not?
Over the years I have said to myself and others...
Either the human race is stupid beyond belief, or there really is a giant conspiracy.

Genocide?
Who benefits?
Off world? Or on?
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:13 PM   #302
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Who indeed?


I must say the quality of the posts in the thread have been excellent though the news is very grim. Is there a remedy possible?
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60 Minutes Report Fukushima Now Radiating Everyone Will Impact All Of Humanity

video here:

http://video.godlikeproductions.com/...1b9cd64c26bc15

"YOu rave will be radio active!"

from this GLP thread:

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"... the latest computer models from the Japanese government and Noaa suggest most of the wreckage that will make landfall will begin washing up this October and continue into late 2013."


* Japan tsunami debris moves towards US and Canada
Wreckage including lumber, footballs, parts of roofs and factories, and even bikes will soon start coming ashore in North America

Suzanne Goldenberg, US environment correspondent
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 1 May 2012 19.05 BST

Wreckage from Japan's tsunami – fishing gear and furniture, footballs and ships – has swept across the Pacific far faster than expected, with thousands of tonnes projected to land on North American shores this year.

Scientists believe lighter objects such as buoys and oil drums began reaching land last November or December. The rest is spread over thousands of miles of ocean between the Midway atoll and the northern islands of Hawaii.

About 95% will probably never come ashore and is destined for that massive swirl of floating plastic known as the north Pacific garbage patch. The remaining fraction is due to reach the west coast of the US and Canada in October.

No one expects to wake up one morning to a tsunami of rubbish. "It is not like you are going to be standing on the beach looking at the horizon and see a wall of debris come in," said Nicholas Mallos, a marine debris expert at the Ocean Conservancy.

But there have already been some bizarre finds. This week a beachcomber in British Columbia found a moving crate containing a rusting Harley-Davidson motorcycle registered to Japan's Miyagi prefecture, which absorbed the brunt of the tsunami. The crate also contained a set of golf clubs.

Last month a a football washed up on an uninhabited island off Alaska and was traced to its owner, a Japanese schoolboy from the town of Rikuzentakata which was almost flattened by the tsunami. A 160ft fishing boat, the Ryou-Un Maru, drifting to within 300 miles of the British Columbia coast before it was deemed a hazard to shipping and sunk by the US coastguard, was also found.

Washington state officials last week put up posters advising residents what may arrive on their beaches, from common litter to aluminium canisters possibly containing insecticide, and derelict boats.

Personal belongings should be treated with respect, the posters said. "It is extremely unlikely any human remains from the tsunami will reach the US," they added, but if people did find a body they should call the authorities.

The wreckage stems from a vast stretch of Japan's northern coast and was swept away several days before the meltdown at the Fukushima reactor, so radiation is not seen as a potential hazard, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa).

The Japanese government estimates 4.8m tonnes of debris – parts of factorybuildings, houses, cars and trees – were swept into the ocean during the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami.

Heavy items sank to the ocean floor close to shore. But at least 1.5m tonnes of debris, including small ships, lumber, and even steel beams was carried off by currents and began making the 4,500-mile journey across the Pacific. Within a month of the tsunami, the debris had dispersed and now stretches across 4,000 nautical miles of the north Pacific. Scientists have only a sketchy notion of what is still out there, how fast it is travelling, and where and when it might land.

"Most people probably think there is a huge pile of debris moving across the ocean like a carpet," said Jan Hafner, of the International Pacific Research Centre, in Honolulu, Hawaii. "But it is very sparse, very patchy."

Projections made by Nikolai Maximenko and Hafner suggested most of the wreckage would reach North America between March 2013 and March 2014.

But that did not account for buoyant materials, such as oyster floats, foot- and volleyballs and lightbulbs, which bobbed on the water, and were propelled by winds and the ocean current.

A football or a big float sitting on the water exposed to the wind is carried by the wind more than the currents," Hafner said. "Wind blows faster than the typical surface current so those types of debris are moving faster."

Officials logged hundreds of reports of those outliers from Oregon, Washington state, and British Columbia before conceding it was tsunami wreckage.

They argued many of the findings could not be definitively identified. People were overly excited, said Kinji Shinoda, the deputy consul general in Vancouver. "Several newspapers were reporting that they found pop bottles or cans," he said. "But in some of the photos the bottles actually had Chinese characters, not Japanese, so nobody knows where it came from."

A more definitive picture of the debris is unlikely to emerge before June or July when two privately-funded expeditions are due to travel into the north Pacific. But the latest computer models from the Japanese government and Noaa suggest most of the wreckage that will make landfall will begin washing up this October and continue into late 2013.

Washington, Oregon, British Columbia and Alaska will get much of the debris, while most of California will be protected by currents pushing objects back out to sea. Hawaii, however, is in line for several deposits of tsunami trash.

"It's going to bounce off the western shore of North America, swing back south and come back towards Hawaii and enter that big circular area called the North Pacific Garbage Patch," said Bill Francis, board president of the Algalita Marine Research Foundation in Long Beach, California, which will be leading one expedition. "I heard someone say it's like a big toilet that never flushes. Anything that floats is going to stay out there and stay out there."

The US navy and coastguard will be tracking accumulations of debris which could pose a danger to shipping.

The tsunami swept as much debris into the ocean in one day as is usually dumped in a year, threatening wildlife and the Pacific's ecology, conservationists said. Coral is smothered by plastic, fish get trapped in drifting nets. Birds die from eating plastic.

"It is clearly already an ocean problem. We know that all of these hundreds of tonnes of debris are in the ocean. We know that actually all of the plastic debris contains a lot of toxins, and we know there are other types of toxins that would have got into the ocean from the tsunami and so all of this debris represents a hazard to navigation and a terrible distress to the ocean ecosystem," said Mary Crowley, founder of the Ocean Voyages Institute, which will also be leading an expedition.

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Who indeed?


I must say the quality of the posts in the thread have been excellent though the news is very grim. Is there a remedy possible?
I was looking for a link to reply to dolores1 and came across this.
I cannot post images, but perhaps majorlee or someone can have a look and see if this webpage is accurate?

http://www.amfir.com/AmFirstInst/Sym...nce_index.html

On the previous pageI posted an interview with Leuren Moret and in that piece she said that the Russian and French military had recommended blowing it up.

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Excellent info on this page from the Project Avalon forum.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...omic-radiation

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I was looking for a link to reply to dolores1 and came across this.
I cannot post images, but perhaps majorlee or someone can have a look and see if this webpage is accurate?

http://www.amfir.com/AmFirstInst/Sym...nce_index.html

On the previous pageI posted an interview with Leuren Moret and in that piece she said that the Russian and French military had recommended blowing it up.

Nuked Radio #18 Leuren Moret gets nuked on air - YouTube
wow, that's a seriously good information there svarga. Well don

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I'm taking what I get from the Sensationalist doom n' gloomers with a grain of salt . Seems the sky is always falling in truther town.
Consider this:
Before Russia, Britain and America outlawed atmospheric testing on August 5, 1963, more than 4,200 kilograms of plutonium had been discharged into the atmosphere.
Because we know that less than one microgram (millionth of a single gram) of inhaled plutonium causes terminal lung cancer in a human, we therefore know that your friendly government has lofted 4,200,000,000 (4.2 Billion) lethal doses into the atmosphere, with particle radioactive half-life a minimum of 50,000 years.

Before being banned by Russia, Britain and America, a total of 711 atmospheric nuclear tests were conducted, thereby creating 711,000 kilograms of deadly microscopic radioactive particles, to which must be added the original 4,200 kilograms from the weapons themselves, for a gross though very conservative total of 715,200 kilograms. There are more than a million lethal doses per kilogram, meaning that your governments have contaminated your atmosphere with more than 715,000,000,000 [715 Billion] such doses, enough to cause lung or skin cancer 117 times in every man, woman and child on earth.
Yet we're all alive and well....




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The interior average range is 35 to 40 CPM. These measurements are similar to background measurements taken in this location over long periods of time prior to the meltdowns in Japan.

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The interior average range is 35 to 40 CPM. These measurements are similar to background measurements taken in this location over long periods of time prior to the meltdowns in Japan.
Just because someone in your city came up with normal background radiation level doesn't mean it's safe. In fact, it is possible to measure a high radiation level a few doors away from you and your garden might show a normal background level. It's called hotspot.

I think I have come to a conclusion now that the population has been split into 'happy go lucky, we're all gonna die anyway' and 'We are still fighting on'
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Urgent Request to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon
May 1, 2012

To: UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon

An Urgent Request on UN Intervention to Stabilize the Fukushima Unit 4 Spent Nuclear Fuel

Recently, former diplomats and experts both in Japan and abroad stressed the extremely risky condition of the Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool and this is being widely reported by world media. Robert Alvarez, Senior Scholar at the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS), who is one of the best-known experts on spent nuclear fuel, stated that in Unit 4 there is spent nuclear fuel which contains Cesium-137 (Cs-137) that is equivalent to 10 times the amount that was released at the time of the Chernobyl nuclear accident. Thus, if an earthquake or other event were to cause this pool to drain, this could result in a catastrophic radiological fire involving nearly 10 times the amount of Cs-137 released by the Chernobyl accident.

Nearly all of the 10,893 spent fuel assemblies at the Fukushima Daiichi plant sit in pools vulnerable to future earthquakes, with roughly 85 times more long-lived radioactivity than released at Chernobyl.

Nuclear experts from the US and Japan such as Arnie Gundersen, Robert Alvarez, Hiroaki Koide, Masashi Goto, and Mitsuhei Murata, a former Japanese ambassador to Switzerland, and, Akio Matsumura, a former UN diplomat, have continually warned against the high risk of the Fukushima Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool.

US Senator Roy Wyden, after his visit to the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant on 6 April, 2012, issued a press release on 16 April, pointing out the catastrophic risk of Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4, calling for urgent US government intervention. Senator Wyden also sent a letter to Ichiro Fujisaki, Japan’s Ambassador to the United States, requesting Japan to accept international assistance to tackle the crisis.

We Japanese civil organizations express our deepest concern that our government does not inform its citizens about the extent of risk of the Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool. Given the fact that collapse of this pool could potentially lead to catastrophic consequences with worldwide implications, what the Japanese government should be doing as a responsible member of the international community is to avoid any further disaster by mobilizing all the wisdom and the means available in order to stabilize this spent nuclear fuel. It is clearly evident that Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool is no longer a Japanese issue but an international issue with potentially serious consequences. Therefore, it is imperative for the Japanese government and the international community to work together on this crisis before it becomes too late. We are appealing to the United Nations to help Japan and the planet in order to prevent the irreversible consequences of a catastrophe that could affect generations to come. We herewith make our urgent request to you as follows:

1. The United Nations should organize a Nuclear Security Summit to take up the crucial problem of the Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool.

2. The United Nations should establish an independent assessment team on Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4 and coordinate international assistance in order to stabilize the unit’s spent nuclear fuel and prevent radiological consequences with potentially catastrophic consequences.

30 April 2012
Shut Tomari (Japan)
1-2, 6-4 Higashisapporo, Shiroishi-ku, Sapporo 003-0006 Japan
TEL: +81-90-26951937 FAX:+81-11-826-3796 email: kaori-izumi@ta3.so-net.ne.jp

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Suite 103, 22-75 Tanaka Sekiden-cho, Sakyo-ku, Kyoto 606-8203 Japan
Tel: +81-75-701-7223 Fax: +81-75-702-1952 email: info@greenaction-japan.org

Endorsed by:
Hiroaki Koide Kyoto University Nuclear Reactor Research Institute (Japan)
Mitsuhei Murata Former ambassador to Switzerland and to Senegal
Board member, Global System and Ethics Society (Japan)
Akio Matsumura Former United Nations diplomat
Robert Alvarez Senior Scholar, Institute for Policy Studies, Washington, D.C. (USA)

Masashi Goto Former Nuclear Plant Engineer (Japan)

Signing organizations: 72 Japanese organizations have signed this petition (as of 30 April 2012)
1. Shut Tomari, Hokkaido
2. Green Action, Kyoto
3. Citizen’s Nuclear Information Center, Tokyo
4. Osaka Group against Mihama・Ooi・Takahama Nuclear Power, Osaka
5. Aging Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant Group, Tokyo
6. Stop Hamaoka Nuclear Power Plant!, Shizuoka
7. Espace des Femmes, Hokkaido
8. “Let’s learn Pluthermal” Shiribeshi Citizen’s Network, Hokkaido
9. Hairo Action Fukushima, Fukushima and Evacuation Areas in Japan
10. STOP MOX! Fukushima, Fukusima
11. Fukushima Moonlight, Fukuoka
12. Yawatahama Women’s Group to Protect Children from Nuclear Power Plant, Ehime
13. Ikata People Against Mox, Ehime
14. We Do Not Want Plutonium! , Tokyo
15. Genkai Nuclear Power Pluthermal Trial Support Group, Fukuoka
16. Genkai Nuclear Power Pluthermal Trial support Group, Fukuona
17. Pluthermal and 100 Years of Saga Prefecture Group, Saga
18. No Nuclear Plants! Yamaguchi Network, Yamaguchi
19. Food Policy Center・Vision21
20. Genpatsu Yamenkai, Fukuoka
21. Japan Environmental Law Lawyers Association (JELF)
22. Nonviolent Direct Action Network (HANET)
23. Anti-Nuclear-Power and Nuclear Fuels Reprocessing Protest Advertising Group, Tokyo
24. Kochi Green Citizen’s Network, Kochi
25. Kaku-no-Gomi Campaign, Chubu, Nagoya, Aichi
26. Aloha from Hawaii
27. Tohoku Asia Information Center, Hiroshima
28. No-Nukes Citizen’s Network, Tokushima
29. No-nukes Net Kushiro, Hokkaido
30. Fukushima Meeting for Environment, Human Rights and Peace, Fukushima
31. FoE (Friends of the Earth Japan), Tokyo
32. Citizen’s Group on Nuclear Waste, Horonobe, Hokkaido
33. Team From Now On, Hokkaido
34. No Nukes! Protect Children from Radioactivity
35. Concerned Citizens for Children’s Human Rights, Ehime
36. Protect the Sea of Sanriku from Radioactivity, Iwate
37. Iwate Organic Farming Study Group, Iwate
38. Dandelion House, Tokyo
39. Decommission All Nuclear Power! Women’s Group for Protection of Kariwa Village, Niigata
40. Sapporo Shoku Machi Network, Hokkaido
41. Citizens Wind for Peace, Tokyo
42. Together with the Earth NPO, Osaka
43. Kawauchi Tsuyukusa Group, Kagoshima
44. Group against Construction of Kawaunchi Nuclear Plant, Kagoshima
45. Hassei Group against Ikata Nuclear Plant, Ehime
46. For Citizen’s Autonomy, Hokkaido
47. No-Nukes Women Group・Hokkaido, Hokkaido
48. Hokkaido Peace Net, Hokkaido
49. Future for Fukushima Children, Hokkaido
50. Good Bye Kashiwazaki Kariwa Nuclear Power Project, Niigata
51. Weaving A Better Future Mothers’ Group
52. Group Aozora MeeMee
53. Mothers and Fathers’No-Nukes Declaration 2011
54. Southern Osaka Network for Protection from Radioactivity, Osaka
55. Kansai Network on Protection of Children from Radioactivity, Kansai
56. Journey To the Future
57. Morinokoya
58. Kaburaya
59. Nishiyashiki
60. Dandelion Fortress, Fukuoka
61. Dohatsuten Wo Tsuku Kai, Fukuoka
62. Global Ethics Association
63. Buppouzan Zenngennji
64. STOP Nuclear Plants BEFORE Huge Quake Strikes!
65. Lee Group to Prevent Earthquake Disaster and Nuclear Accident
66. Rokkasho Village・ Home of Flowers and Herbs, Aomori
67. Anti-TEPCO-Nuclear-Power Consumers Group, Tokyo
68. Miyazu Mitsubati Project, Kyoto
69. Citizen’s Plaza, Minoh , Osaka
70. Monoh Citizen’s Group on Good Bye Nuclear Power, Osaka
71. Campaign Fukuoka against Nuclear and Uranium Weapons, Fukuoka
72. Seeking for Japan-US Security Treaty Termination Notice, Tokyo

Reference
1. http://bousai.tenki.jp/bousai/earthq...t_type=100days
2. http://jp.reuters.com/article/jp_qua...11040401000586
3. http://www.beyondnuclear.org/home/20...ichi-unit.html
4. http://jp.wsj.com/japanrealtime/blog/archives/10616/
5. http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2...4s-spent-fuel/
6. http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/...fukushima.html
7. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert...b_1444146.html
8. http://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/pre...-than-reported
9. http://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/vid...covery-efforts
10. http://akiomatsumura.com/wp-content/...04-03-2012.pdf
11.
12. http://akiomatsumura.com/wp-content/...Amb-Murata.pdf



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I'm taking what I get from the Sensationalist doom n' gloomers with a grain of salt . Seems the sky is always falling in truther town.
Consider this:
Before Russia, Britain and America outlawed atmospheric testing on August 5, 1963, more than 4,200 kilograms of plutonium had been discharged into the atmosphere.
Because we know that less than one microgram (millionth of a single gram) of inhaled plutonium causes terminal lung cancer in a human, we therefore know that your friendly government has lofted 4,200,000,000 (4.2 Billion) lethal doses into the atmosphere, with particle radioactive half-life a minimum of 50,000 years.

Before being banned by Russia, Britain and America, a total of 711 atmospheric nuclear tests were conducted, thereby creating 711,000 kilograms of deadly microscopic radioactive particles, to which must be added the original 4,200 kilograms from the weapons themselves, for a gross though very conservative total of 715,200 kilograms. There are more than a million lethal doses per kilogram, meaning that your governments have contaminated your atmosphere with more than 715,000,000,000 [715 Billion] such doses, enough to cause lung or skin cancer 117 times in every man, woman and child on earth.
Yet we're all alive and well....

Do your research properly, completely different sorts of threats.

Starting here should help you:

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I'm not sure if this has been posted already, but here it is anyway...it's a rather long article, I'll just post part of it.

http://readersupportednews.org/off-s...-nuclear-fuel-


Fukushima Daiichi: Inside the debacle


An unprecedented look at the disastrous handling of the accident at TEPCO's nuclear power station explains why Japan still doesn't trust nukes.
By Bill Powell and Hideko Takayama

Fukushima Daiichi
FORTUNE -- More than a year has passed since a massive earthquake and a series of tsunamis triggered the worst accident at a nuclear power plant since Chernobyl in 1986, but the epic debacle at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station remains front and center in Japan, at the very core of a historic debate over the future of nuclear energy—one that comes down to a fundamental question: Should nuclear power, which prior to the accident last year generated 30% of the electricity for the world's third-largest economy, have any future at all in Japan?

On April 13, the government of Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda tipped its hand. With summer approaching, and with it peak demand for electricity, the Japanese government approved the restart of two nuclear reactors in the small fishing town Oi, in Fukui prefecture on Japan's west coast.

The nine power companies in Japan have the legal authority to fire up the nuclear plants once they have received regulatory approval from Tokyo, in practice. But the Noda administration now must seek the assent of the local and prefectural governments affected by a restart--as it will have to do for each of the other 48 reactors across the country should it seek to bring them back online in order to avoid crippling brown outs this summer.

That assent won't come easily. Public opposition to nuclear power now runs hot in Japan. Far from fading over the last year, opposition seems to have expanded to a solid majority of citizens nationwide, putting both Noda's government and Japan's big business community (which needs the electricity) in a very difficult spot. The reason for that is the debacle of Fukushima Daiichi—the six-reactor power station owned and operated by the Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) —and the many questions that still surround the terrifying events that began on March 11, 2011.

For the past year, through interviews with employees of TEPCO (some officially sanctioned by the company, some without its knowledge), government officials and nuclear industry experts in Japan and abroad, we've attempted to answer two of the most fundamental issues at the heart of nuclear debate now roiling Japan: how could the accident at Fukushima Daiichi have happened—and how, in particular, could it have happened in Japan, a country once known, not so long ago, for its sheer management and engineering competence?

The answers are bracing. The epic disaster at Fukushima Daiichi represents failure at almost every level, from how the Japanese government regulates nuclear power, to how TEPCO managed critical details of the crisis under desperate circumstances.


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Why is America sticking its head in the sand on this issue? Send a copy of this to everyone and anyone that is in your address book. Either that or be prepared to glow in the dark for the next several thousand years!
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You're so right, majorlee, it's about fucking time the US did something to help avoid this potential catastrophe. I was about to post the same article when I noticed you already had done so.
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I must say the quality of the posts in the thread have been excellent though the news is very grim. Is there a remedy possible?

yes this is very important and why i created the thread to give people an idea of what is going on but trying not to focus on the doom and gloom prospects

remember although its really bad situation, it STILL can be turned around drastically with the right action, there is much technology which can help but it wont be possible without the sacrafice of many lives to get the job done, chernobyl was est. at around 1m workers, many of which are dead or suffering the radiation effects, they are REAL HEROES, i thought the japanese were obsessed with heroes too, but it dont look like they want to be in this drastic situation, kinda dont blame them....
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yes this is very important and why i created the thread to give people an idea of what is going on but trying not to focus on the doom and gloom prospects

remember although its really bad situation, it STILL can be turned around drastically with the right action, there is much technology which can help but it wont be possible without the sacrafice of many lives to get the job done, chernobyl was est. at around 1m workers, many of which are dead or suffering the radiation effects, they are REAL HEROES, i thought the japanese were obsessed with heroes too, but it dont look like they want to be in this drastic situation, kinda dont blame them....
I think it's a very good thread, I think it is scandalous the extent to which this issue has been brushed under the carpet. It's something we should beware of in Britain because the Energy White Paper has already committed us to a 'new generation' of nuclear power stations, with the intention of the majority of Britain's electricity to be produced via nuclear power in the future, while fossil fuel related power generation is to be phased out due to the 'terminal threat' of 'climate change'.
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Cleaning up radiation hopeless, says writer: “There is no end” — “We adults have to bear a responsibility for the future” — “Impossible to decontaminate vast forested areas, and Japan is a country of forests and mountains”


Published: May 2nd, 2012 at 1:42 am ET
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Title: Japan writers’ group gets eye-opener in Chernobyl
Source: AJW by The Asahi Shimbun
Author: By CHIAKI YOSHIMURA
Date: May 02, 2012

If the pen is mightier than the sword, then senior members of the Japan writers’ P.E.N. Club, who visited the shuttered Chernobyl nuclear power plant in mid-April, are now armed with some mighty ink. [...]

Jiro Asada, the president of the association of progressively minded writers, on April 25 reiterated his opposition to the use of nuclear power.

“There is no end to the cleanup work,” Asada told a news conference. “The situation is hopeless. We adults have to bear a responsibility for the future.” [...]

“Some say that nuclear power benefits the economy,” said Atsuo Nakamura, another P.E.N. Club board member. “That may be a joke in the opposite sense.” [...]

“It has been demonstrated that it is impossible to decontaminate vast forested areas,” Nakamura said. “And Japan is a country of forests and mountains.” [...]


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Old 03-05-2012, 03:58 AM   #317
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Coalition requests Japan gov’t immediately ask UN for help with Spent Fuel Pool No. 4 before it becomes too late

Coalition Sends Urgent Request for UN Intervention to Stabilize the Fukushima Unit 4 Spent Nuclear Fuel
Source: Press Release
Date: May 2, 2012

Kyoto, Japan—On 30 April, seventy-two Japanese NGO organizations lead [sic] by Shut Tomari and Green Action send an urgent request to the UN and Japanese government urging immediate action to stabilize the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel. The letter was endorsed by experts from Japan and abroad.

The letter warned that the seriously damaged Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool contains Cesium-137 (Cs-137) that is equivalent to 10 times the amount released at the time of the Chernobyl nuclear accident. If an earthquake or other event were to cause this pool to drain, this could result in a catastrophic radiological fire.

The letter urged the United Nations to organize a Nuclear Security Summit to take up the crucial problem of the Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool. The letter stated that the United Nations should establish an independent assessment team on Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4 and coordinate international assistance in order to stabilize the unit’s spent nuclear fuel and prevent radiological consequences with potentially catastrophic consequences.

Letters were sent to both UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda, the latter asking that Japan ask immediately for the UN’s help.

Nearly all of the 10,893 spent fuel assemblies at the Fukushima Daiichi plant sit in pools vulnerable to future earthquakes, with roughly 85 times more long-lived radioactivity than released at Chernobyl.

Kaori Izumi of Shut Tomari stated, “Fukushima Daiichi is no longer a Japanese issue but is an international issue. It is imperative for the Japanese government and the international community to work together on this crisis before it becomes too late.”

Nuclear experts from the US and Japan such as Arnie Gundersen, Robert Alvarez, Hiroaki Koide, Masashi Goto, and Mitsuhei Murata, a former Japanese ambassador to Switzerland, and, Akio Matsumura, a former UN diplomat have continually warned against the high risk of the Fukushima Unit 4 spent nuclear fuel pool.

Shut Tomari and Green Action are seeking endorsements from civil organizations abroad (deadline 20 May). More Japanese civil organizations are expected to sign on in addition to the seventy-two organizations. (Deadline for signatures: 20 May.)

For full text of letter/endorsements/signatories, see: http://wp.me/p1FMPy-B6

Press release issued by:
Shut Tomari (Japan),
1-2, 6-4 Higashisapporo, Shiroishi-ku, Sapporo 003-0006 Japan
TEL: +81-90-2695-1937 FAX:+81-11-826-3796 email: kaori-izumi@ta3.so-net.ne.jp
Green Action (Japan),
Suite 103, 22-75 Tanaka Sekiden-cho, Sakyo-ku, Kyoto 606-8203 Japan
Tel: +81-75-701-7223 Fax: +81-75-702-1952 email: info@greenaction-japan.org

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sorry to say this but


a year too late!


and its still gunna take months if any real action [if] takes place
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They still cant use any equipment near the plant can they?

Why dont they go low tech and use blimps on tow lines to dump earth on the reactors. Bury them. This is gone on too long.
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Nuclear Expert: Everybody now paying attention to Unit 4 because we have four years to go before fuel removed — If water lost, a beacon of radiation will bathe site in ‘sky shine’ from gamma rays (AUDIO)

Arnie Gundersen Interview
KGO Radio’s Pat Thurston
April 15, 2012

Gundersen: Why everybody is paying all this attention to Unit 4 is that we have four years to go. That pool has to be cooled and if there’s a seismic event that either stops the cooling, or cracks the pool, or knocks the building over [...]

[...] let’s assume that it didn’t fall, but went dry a hundred feet in the air, it would be a beacon, but instead of a beacon of light, it would be a beacon of radiation, and bathe the site in high levels of radiation. That’s not something that you want because it would make work on other units darn near impossible.

Host: And if people breathed in the whatever would have been created by the smoke from the fire would that be potentially deadly to them?

Gundersen: Yes. You look at the people on the site now they’re all wearing pretty good respirators. But even that wouldn’t be good enough because of something called ‘sky shine’. The gamma rays, forget the particles that get caught in your lungs, but the gamma rays would go up and bounce off air molecules and come down as a shine of radiation over the site, and it would go right through those suits and the guys would be exposed from the ‘sky shine’ so that’s the other…

Host: Holy mackerel, I’ve never heard of anything like that. I mean this is really scary.

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