Abrahamics and "Biblical Religion: The Great Lie"

[blackyblue]

Originally Posted by bishadi

so you have looked into the mirror!

attaboy!


that he is 'christ'

witness what any can sustain as true, not what is believed.

For example: are you a conscious life, capable of creating, personally?

yes or no

ARE you as capable to cause about any 'evil' or corrupt act as any devil, any human, any life, that ever lived?

yes or no

Are you as capable of giving of yourself, for other lives to live longer, by choice?

yes or no

Are you capable of being honest beyond any belief?

yes or no

Are you alive and in the flesh today, now and nothing in the whole of existence will save you from being a bad person except yourself and your own actions?

yes or no

Oh good, market research, i like doing surverys!!




(q) are you a conscious life, capable of creating, personally?

Cant answer it as it is a trick question requiring both a yes or a no

(q) ARE you as capable to cause about any 'evil' or corrupt act as any devil, any human, any life, that ever lived?

Yes

(q) Are you as capable of giving of yourself, for other lives to live longer, by choice?

Unanswerable as the question is not clear at-all

(q) Are you capable of being honest beyond any belief?

Am i capable of being honest beyond any belief?

(q) Are you alive and in the flesh today, now and nothing in the whole of existence will save you from being a bad person except yourself and your own actions?

Again a trick question..Two questions and only one yes or no allowed...This survey is dissapointing

[jesusissalvation]

Originally Posted by bishadi

nope..... i render what i can see, personally...

for example, you made this claim

And as per above, you have ONCE AGAIN been exposed as PURPOSEFULLY trying to 'twist' scriptures!!! ***need some ointment for that sting***???

Originally Posted by bishadi

i am watching you mislead people, right in front of my eyes, by your 'false witness'.

Okay, let's break down this whole 'false witness' that you seem to 'throw around'. To my knowledge, a 'false witness' is somebody, who KNOWS the truth but CHOOSES to LIE, to COVER UP the truth! i.e A friend of mine steals a cellphone, of another mutual friend. The 'mutual friend' comes to me and asks, 'Do you know what happened to my cellphone?' to which I reply, 'I have no idea'. THAT....is 'false witness'.

If I CHOOSE the path of Christianity and to be a FOLLOWER of Jesus and His teachings, then I am a practioner of the FAITH of Christianity.

Faith: inner attitude, conviction, or trust relating man to a supreme God or ultimate salvation. In religious traditions stressing divine grace, it is the inner certainty or attitude of love granted by God himself. In Christian theology, faith is the divinely inspired human response to God's historical revelation through Jesus Christ and, consequently, is of crucial significance.

Now. In a court of law, if any Christian were put on the stand, they could not be prosecuted for 'false witness', the same way a 'perjurer' would, when asked about Jesus and His teachings. Because the Christian speaks under the umbrella of FAITH, whereas the perjurer doesn't. The below definition should help you somewhat

Perjurer: to render (oneself) guilty of swearing falsely or of willfully making a false statement under oath or solemn affirmation:

Originally Posted by bishadi

You are torturing ME, just for choosing to mislead, by choice!

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! What next? You gonna throw yourself on the floor, stamp your fists and feet and throw a REAL, BIG BABY TANTRUM!!! LOL. PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZ GET OVER YOURSELF!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Reminds me of one time, you said that I would be 'very suprised' to find out 'who I am dealing with', LOL. You MUST be on meds to talk like that!!!

Originally Posted by bishadi

and ....19............... renders the 6 commands and one of them is saying in my most eloquent summary 'no fucking lying'

And THAT'S where you have HUNG yourself, for, as per above posts, you have been PROVEN to be purposeful in your 'attempt' to 'twist scripture'. You, have been thus appropriately labelled a HYPOCRITE!!!

Originally Posted by bishadi

but you have missed the gift of those scriptures of mark 10:17-18. ie.... "what shall i do (to inherit life)?' and 'i aint good (god)", per the bible, as jesus is telling the man

LIES once again!!! The 'gift' or the 'lesson' of that scripture, is to illustrate to us, how 'clinging' to worldly riches, we actually end up choosing 'death' over 'life', as illustrated by turning away from Jesus.

"you have been weighed on the balances and have failed the test." ~ Daniel 5:27

[jesusissalvation]

Originally Posted by bishadi

but i can witness an embryo (single cell) develop into a human being?

And i have observed the evidence of darwins ideas, within the fossil records. Albeit, there are missing items as rendered by many inquiries, but i know that knowledge evolves and that i can take a yellow crayon and red crayon and make a combination into any shade of orange that i would like, so I do comprehend how an evolution can occur.

Blah, blah, blah....misdirection tactic. Nice try, won't work though

Science: systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.

Don't give me a 'fanciful' story and try and pass it off as 'science'. You have been caught out, AGAIN! I can go into a geneticist's lab and he can show me the process of fertilisation of an ovary and a sperm cell, how it becomes a zygote, then embryo, then foetus and then a eventually, a living, breathing baby boy/girl.

Until you can show me how you can take single cells, from apples, jellyfish and ice-cream and 'create' a pedigree German Shepard dog, in a test tube, then please do not try and speak 'science' to me because you are trying to brush your 'faith' and your 'religion' off on me....NOT gonna happen

Originally Posted by bishadi

i am enabling 'truth' which is the sword to destroy the ignorance sustained by religious wingnuts.

But you have then been PROVEN over and over to be a HYPOCRITE???

Originally Posted by bishadi

I will address any in full judgement that mislead 'truth' and i dont need an excuse, because i know i 'can and are able'

LOL. And this is the part where you say things like 'You will be shocked to know who I am'.....YOU ARE A J.O.K.E

Originally Posted by bishadi

You use the excuse of belief while i know the evolving process of life, knowledge and understanding is the best faith to hold for mankind!

*scratching my head* So you basically, in a nutshell, KNOW what is good for ALL of mankind?

...for somebody who 'claims' to not believe in 'religion' you sure starting to sound a lot like the likes of Jim Jones...

Originally Posted by bishadi

you discount mankind and our equal capabilities, and i nurture in love, that each are ONE with 'god' (nature itself) and always have been

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You would not know what 'love' is, even if you PAID for it! Lemme get this straight....you 'nuture', in 'love'.....by using 'foul language'??? HYPOCRITE!!! LIAR!!!!

Are you not getting tired of these 'beatings' by now? You're getting more 'whips' in this forum than a run-away slave!!!

[radziox]

Originally Posted by bendoon

The Talmud, written by heretics trumps the Bible

Actually, talmud is very close to the bible.

Originally Posted by bendoon

They don't, they say the writings have been corrupted by Jews and Christians.

By adding their own extra writings both groups have abandoned the God of the Bible and set themselves up in opposition to God.

You do realize the those were jews that originally worshipped yehovah? If someone is the copycat here, its Christianity.

[zegzy]

Originally Posted by radziox

Actually, talmud is very close to the bible.

You do realize the those were jews that originally worshipped yehovah? If someone is the copycat here, its Christianity.

[radziox]

Originally Posted by zegzy

What makes you so suprised? If you would read the bible you would notice that the first ones to worship yehovah and be his ''chosen ones'' were the jews.

[zegzy]

Originally Posted by radziox

What makes you so suprised? If you would read the bible you would notice that the first ones to worship yehovah and be his ''chosen ones'' were the jews.

So what are you saying...that practitioners of "Christianity", as it is known today, are actually following the teachings of Talmud Jews?

[radziox]

Originally Posted by zegzy

So what are you saying...that practitioners of "Christianity", as it is known today, are actually following the teachings of Talmud Jews?

Actually yea. Jews were the first ones to worship yehovah. Christianity came later on. Besides talmud is not that far off. Its the bible of the jews. Keep in mind that yehovah is both the god of the jews and christians.

The only difference is jews accept only OT, while Christians accept OT ( even thou they allways run away from it and deny its claims ) and NT.

[zegzy]

Originally Posted by radziox

Actually yea. Jews were the first ones to worship yehovah. Christianity came later on. Besides talmud is not that far off. Its the bible of the jews. Keep in mind that yehovah is both the god of the jews and christians.

The only difference is jews accept only OT, while Christians accept OT ( even thou they allways run away from it and deny its claims ) and NT.

That explains the strange erratic behavior and the consistent contradictive perceptions of some of them.

[hurt4ever1]

Originally Posted by zegzy

that explains the strange erratic behavior and the consistent contradictive perceptions of some of them.

exactly! :d

[logos880]

Originally Posted by radziox

Actually yea. Jews were the first ones to worship yehovah. Christianity came later on. Besides talmud is not that far off. Its the bible of the jews. Keep in mind that yehovah is both the god of the jews and christians.

The only difference is jews accept only OT, while Christians accept OT ( even thou they allways run away from it and deny its claims ) and NT.

I guess you haven't read the thread I started regarding mosaic law and the new testament. I for one am not hiding from the OT.

[radziox]

Originally Posted by logos880

I guess you haven't read the thread I started regarding mosaic law and the new testament. I for one am not hiding from the OT.

Bullshit. Whenever something inconvienient from the OT comes up, you either try to excuse it or hide that the christians are only concerned with the ''new covenant'' now. You accept only those parts that co-exist with your beliefs. Everything else meets with denial.

[hurt4ever1]

Originally Posted by radziox

Bullshit. Whenever something inconvienient from the OT comes up, you either try to excuse it or hide that the christians are only concerned with the ''new covenant'' now. You accept only those parts that co-exist with your beliefs. Everything else meets with denial.

+1 That is exactly what he does.

[blackyblue]

Originally Posted by hurt4ever1

+1 That is exactly what he does.

-1 oh no he doesnt.

[zegzy]

Originally Posted by hurt4ever1

+1 That is exactly what he does.

+2 oh yes he does.

[blackyblue]

....oh no he doesnt!!!

[logos880]

Originally Posted by radziox

Bullshit. Whenever something inconvienient from the OT comes up, you either try to excuse it or hide that the christians are only concerned with the ''new covenant'' now. You accept only those parts that co-exist with your beliefs. Everything else meets with denial.

like I said, mosaic law had it's place...it is history now.

how's about this, you provide a verse from the bible that I "deny." bet you can't.

[logos880]

Originally Posted by hurt4ever1

+1 That is exactly what he does.

Originally Posted by zegzy

+2 oh yes he does.

sounds like y'all are on the verge of starting a fan club.

[logos880]

Originally Posted by blackyblue

....oh no he doesnt!!!

oh yes he does!...oh wait...no he doesn't!

[radziox]

Originally Posted by blackyblue

-1 oh no he doesnt.

Dude, you need to catch up with reality. Nearly everytime i presented inconvienient passages he either tried to excuse it or gave that shitty line that only ''new covenant'' applies now. He is an apologetic to the extreme.