Abrahamics and "Biblical Religion: The Great Lie"

zegzy · 08-02-2012, 02:58 AM

The root of the faith of all Jews, Christians and Muslims lies with Abraham. How many of the billions of people of these faiths, including Jews, Christians and Muslims, have actually taken time out to research the character of Abraham the man at the root of the faith that all Jews, Christians and Muslims base their faith upon?

Be you Jewish, Christian or Muslim with a want to know more about Abraham the man at the root of your faith and his associates, or be you neither but curious as to know more about Abrahamic faiths and their roots, i highly recommend this book to you to read:

http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/124760

The book can be downloaded free in various formats using the link provided above.

Feel free to email the book or the download link to all your friends and families.

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Using evidence from the Bible, Mythology and Archeology, this book sheds new light on the birth and the nature of biblical religion. Abraham, the Chaldean sorcerer, used his beautiful wife as bait to lure local rulers into a trap of poisonous sorcery. By "healing" the "plagues" he had produced himself he managed to acquire significant wealth and power. Abraham’s descendents also followed this unique deceitful family plot! Isaac, Jacob, Joseph and Moses used a variety of ruses to compromise persons, cities and even entire nations. Read for the first time, a concise explanation of the events described in the Bible that does not resort to metaphysics or miracles and exposes the true nature of the biblical patriarchs and their "blessings". An unprecedented deconstruction of the biblical narrative that proves beyond any doubt that the "miracles" of the patriarchs were premeditated crimes disguised as theology.

zegzy · 09-02-2012, 06:24 AM

Who was Abraham? Who was the man that has been called "God’s friend"? Let us examine the history of this famous man. Abraham was a native of Ur in Chaldea, a very important city of ancient Mesopotamia. Its ruins near the river Euphrates, approximately 200 km south of Babylon are still being studied with great interest by archaeologists.

All the sources that have survived the passage of time admit that Abraham’s father was nothing less than a talented unscrupulous crook that got rich by taking advantage of the religious aspirations and the medical needs of his fellow-citizens.

The Christian lexicographer Suidas (circa 1150 A.D.) wrote of the unscrupulous moneymaking of Abraham’s father, Terah: "His father Terah deceives the people by fabricating idols and statues, as he does not know God". Suidas 253,4

The Chronographer George Monachus (? –914A.D.) admitted much the same: "Abraham advised his father saying…why do you deceive the people for mischievous profit?"

The Bible itself refers only indirectly to part of this story: "your fathers lived at first beyond the river (Euphrates in Mesopotamia), such as Terah, the father of Abraham; they worshipped other Gods" Joshua 24.2

valmar · 09-02-2012, 07:42 AM

Read it and love it! It puts the WHOLE SCAM of Biblical religion into a MASSIVE spotlight! Was worth my time! I'm reading it again soon to see if I missed anything!

1ndividua1 · 09-02-2012, 08:28 AM

What makes this book so special amongst the thousands of other anti-biblical tracts out there?

zegzy · 09-02-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 1ndividua1

What makes this book so special amongst the thousands of other anti-biblical tracts out there?

What makes you ask silly questions?

hurt4ever1 · 09-02-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 1ndividua1

What makes this book so special amongst the thousands of other anti-biblical tracts out there?

It tells of the myths that created the myths of the bible. It isn't really an anti-biblical tract. It is the story behind the story.

willie1959 · 09-02-2012, 02:29 PM

It’s like this religious nutters claim to doing things in the name of god yet he professes to have no name.

I wouldn’t want a name neither as it would give away the game right away.

If the creator operates by logic the macro and we are the micro cast in his image then we are all part of creation therefore creators ourselves.

So if the creator the macro shows up and asks a simple question such as “what have you created to be part of my creation”. Their response would be ‘we done all of this in your name”.

Now how can you do something in his name when he professes to have no name?

Just as he has no name you are born here with no name and depart with no name. So if you can only run around using somebody else’s creation, the works of the bible are not your creation it some else’s creation.

How can you even fathom that you created anything?

You could not even comprehend the part of “I have no name”. So whose illusion have you been using, who deceived who? You did it to yourself.

It’s like a teacher telling its class to go and create something and showing up with some else’s creation. You have done nothing.

So I again ask you what was his name? When he told you he had no name.

We are dealing with pure logic not man made babble.

It’s the ultimate deception and a major play upon words.

exu156 · 09-02-2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by willie1959

It’s like this religious nutters claim to doing things in the name of god yet he professes to have no name.

I wouldn’t want a name neither as it would give away the game right away.

If the creator operates by logic the macro and we are the micro cast in his image then we are all part of creation therefore creators ourselves.

So if the creator the macro shows up and asks a simple question such as “what have you created to be part of my creation”. Their response would be ‘we done all of this in your name”.

Now how can you do something in his name when he professes to have no name?

Just as he has no name you are born here with no name and depart with no name. So if you can only run around using somebody else’s creation, the works of the bible are not your creation it some else’s creation.

How can you even fathom that you created anything?

You could not even comprehend the part of “I have no name”. So whose illusion have you been using, who deceived who? You did it to yourself.

It’s like a teacher telling its class to go and create something and showing up with some else’s creation. You have done nothing.

So I again ask you what was his name? When he told you he had no name.

We are dealing with pure logic not man made babble.

It’s the ultimate deception and a major play upon words.

Wow Willie1959... awesome! I honestly think this is the the best post I have read in this entire forum. You have absolutely nailed it. Seriously awesome post

ferryman to the dead · 09-02-2012, 11:15 PM

Appreciate that! I have Kindle on my computer downloaded right to it!

himitsunomiko · 09-02-2012, 11:37 PM

Got the PDF, thanks.

zegzy · 10-02-2012, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ferryman to the dead

Appreciate that! I have Kindle on my computer downloaded right to it!

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Originally Posted by himitsunomiko

Got the PDF, thanks.

Enjoy your reading ferryman and himitsunomiko.

radziox · 10-02-2012, 02:42 PM

Appears to be an interesting read. I'm allready reading something, but i'll make sure to read this one when i finish my current books.

What bothers me is why a thread like that did not attract a fundie shouting how fake this book is and how their god is the only true god or any of those boring records they tend to repeat. Normally they appear with bibles in their hands charging downhill very quickly... hmm....

zegzy · 10-02-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by radziox

Appears to be an interesting read. I'm allready reading something, but i'll make sure to read this one when i finish my current books.

What bothers me is why a thread like that did not attract a fundie shouting how fake this book is and how their god is the only true god or any of those boring records they tend to repeat. Normally they appear with bibles in their hands charging downhill very quickly... hmm....

Hopefully they are all either busy reading the book or have been reading it and are taking some time out. If so, it will benefit all of them in the long run. Some may not like the information contained in the book on first reading it due to themselves realising that they have been misled by their religious indoctrination, this is of no fault of their own or their parents/guardians i should add. It takes some time to accept such revelations that reveal the lies behind so many indoctrinated perceptions.

"The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off".

radziox · 10-02-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by zegzy

"The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off".

Too true... i was a christian for 15 years myself. When i noticed that something was definetly wrong at first i simply ignored it. With time however i went deeper into the topic and at some point i decided to quit this fake religion. The vision of worshipping a fake man-made god for 15 years of my life makes me wanna throw up. So much time wasted that i could go to some actually good use.

willie1959 · 10-02-2012, 03:20 PM

Without creation there can not be any truth, with out truth there can not be any faith.

So therefore anything outside of creativity is not the truth and not faith.
We were created to create our world.

Any thing less than creating, takes away from the truth.

So to live in blind faith has shown no truth because you have shown no creativity.

Everything is based on the beginning of creation not the latter.

All they are doing is trying to control works within the creation and not seeing the creation had to exist in the first place.

I am the alpha and omega. The middle does not count.

Without this rock we live on there would be nothing, not even this thread.

exu156 · 10-02-2012, 03:24 PM

Thank you zegzy, reading it now.

zegzy · 10-02-2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by willie1959

Without creation there can not be any truth, with out truth there can not be any faith.

So therefore anything outside of creativity is not the truth and not faith.
We were created to create our world.

Any thing less than creating, takes away from the truth.

So to live in blind faith has shown no truth because you have shown no creativity.

Everything is based on the beginning of creation not the latter.

All they are doing is trying to control works within the creation and not seeing the creation had to exist in the first place.

I am the alpha and omega. The middle does not count.

Without this rock we live on there would be nothing, not even this thread.

Nice post willie1959.

The i (the mind) is that which creates, hence the reason why the evil i's of this world desire to control all of the i's (minds) of the masses in order to direct the many i's (minds) towards creating things that only benefit the evil i's rather than the masses.

andre1984 · 10-02-2012, 03:49 PM

Hey, I started to write a response to this, then decided to make it into its own thread, given that the topic is big enough to require its own place of discussion, but I am interested in getting the OP's thoughts (and those of anyone else) on the topic:

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=200274

zegzy · 10-02-2012, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by andre1984

Hey, I started to write a response to this, then decided to make it into its own thread, given that the topic is big enough to require its own place of discussion, but I am interested in getting the OP's thoughts (and those of anyone else) on the topic:

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=200274

I have replied on your thread andre1984.

andre1984 · 10-02-2012, 04:45 PM

Thanks man. This forum seems to have a lot of interesting stuff going on.

09-02-2012, 06:24 AM	#2
zegzy Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: In Your Head! Posts: 2,210	Abraham the Chaldean Who was Abraham? Who was the man that has been called *"God’s friend"? Let us examine the history of this famous man. Abraham was a native of Ur in Chaldea, a very important city of ancient Mesopotamia. Its ruins near the river Euphrates, approximately 200 km south of Babylon are still being studied with great interest by archaeologists. All the sources that have survived the passage of time admit that Abraham’s father was nothing less than a talented unscrupulous crook that got rich by taking advantage of the religious aspirations and the medical needs of his fellow-citizens. The Christian lexicographer Suidas (circa 1150 A.D.) wrote of the unscrupulous moneymaking of Abraham’s father, Terah: "His father Terah deceives the people by fabricating idols and statues, as he does not know God". Suidas 253,4 The Chronographer George Monachus (? –914A.D.) admitted much the same: "Abraham advised his father saying…why do you deceive the people for mischievous profit?" The Bible itself refers only indirectly to part of this story: "your fathers lived at first beyond the river (Euphrates in Mesopotamia), such as Terah, the father of Abraham; they worshipped other Gods" Joshua 24.2 Last edited by zegzy; 09-02-2012 at 06:24 AM.*

09-02-2012, 02:29 PM	#7
willie1959 Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 110	Man made Babble It’s like this religious nutters claim to doing things in the name of god yet he professes to have no name. I wouldn’t want a name neither as it would give away the game right away. If the creator operates by logic the macro and we are the micro cast in his image then we are all part of creation therefore creators ourselves. So if the creator the macro shows up and asks a simple question such as “what have you created to be part of my creation”. Their response would be ‘we done all of this in your name”. Now how can you do something in his name when he professes to have no name? Just as he has no name you are born here with no name and depart with no name. So if you can only run around using somebody else’s creation, the works of the bible are not your creation it some else’s creation. How can you even fathom that you created anything? You could not even comprehend the part of “I have no name”. So whose illusion have you been using, who deceived who? You did it to yourself. It’s like a teacher telling its class to go and create something and showing up with some else’s creation. You have done nothing. So I again ask you what was his name? When he told you he had no name. We are dealing with pure logic not man made babble. It’s the ultimate deception and a major play upon words. Last edited by willie1959; 09-02-2012 at 02:38 PM.

09-02-2012, 11:37 PM	#10
himitsunomiko Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Omnipresent Posts: 4,056	Got the PDF, thanks. __________________ "Just because someone disagrees with your premise doesn't mean they agree with the antithesis of your premise." -apollo_gnomon- The real activists standing up for man kind and the planet.

10-02-2012, 02:42 PM	#12
radziox Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,533	Appears to be an interesting read. I'm allready reading something, but i'll make sure to read this one when i finish my current books. What bothers me is why a thread like that did not attract a fundie shouting how fake this book is and how their god is the only true god or any of those boring records they tend to repeat. Normally they appear with bibles in their hands charging downhill very quickly... hmm.... __________________ *''A myth is a religion in which no one any longer believes.''* - James Feibleman *"Morality is doing right, no matter what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, no matter what is right."* - H. L. Mencken's *"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason."* - Benjamin Franklin *''Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.''* - Napoleon Bonaparte *''A cult is a religion with no political power.''* - Tom Wolfe Last edited by radziox; 10-02-2012 at 02:43 PM.

09-02-2012, 07:42 AM	#3
valmar Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia. In an urban wasteland. Posts: 1,554	Read it and love it! It puts the WHOLE SCAM of Biblical religion into a MASSIVE spotlight! Was worth my time! I'm reading it again soon to see if I missed anything!

09-02-2012, 08:28 AM	#4
1ndividua1 Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,292	What makes this book so special amongst the thousands of other anti-biblical tracts out there?

09-02-2012, 11:15 PM	#9
ferryman to the dead Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 3,295	Appreciate that! I have Kindle on my computer downloaded right to it!

10-02-2012, 03:20 PM	#15
willie1959 Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 110	Without creation there can not be any truth, with out truth there can not be any faith. So therefore anything outside of creativity is not the truth and not faith. We were created to create our world. Any thing less than creating, takes away from the truth. So to live in blind faith has shown no truth because you have shown no creativity. Everything is based on the beginning of creation not the latter. All they are doing is trying to control works within the creation and not seeing the creation had to exist in the first place. I am the alpha and omega. The middle does not count. Without this rock we live on there would be nothing, not even this thread.

10-02-2012, 03:24 PM	#16
exu156 Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,213	Thank you zegzy, reading it now.

10-02-2012, 03:49 PM	#18
andre1984 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 658	Hey, I started to write a response to this, then decided to make it into its own thread, given that the topic is big enough to require its own place of discussion, but I am interested in getting the OP's thoughts (and those of anyone else) on the topic: http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=200274

10-02-2012, 04:45 PM	#20
andre1984 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 658	Thanks man. This forum seems to have a lot of interesting stuff going on.