The Animals That You Eat Are Conscious Beings

[tenzingnorgay]

Originally Posted by dawkinz

Very wrong.

Do you know anything about evolution!?

Everything that lives is eventually eaten. That's an irrefutable fact. So I am right and you are wrong. But don't worry about it. It's apparently your natural state of being. Since you seem to be paying some kind of lame tribute to Dawkins, it seems likely that you are the one who is shy on knowledge about evolution.

[tenzingnorgay]

Originally Posted by phildee3

You've gotta be kidding!!

Everything has an obvious intention to thrive -

except for unnatural, human behaviors which might sometimes have the intention to destroy but, more often than not, do so out of egotistical ignorance.

Individuals have intention, NATURE does not. Nature does not care what we eat or how we eat it.

[dawkinz]

Originally Posted by tenzingnorgay

Everything that lives is eventually eaten. That's an irrefutable fact. So I am right and you are wrong. But don't worry about it. It's apparently your natural state of being. Since you seem to be paying some kind of lame tribute to Dawkins, it seems likely that you are the one who is shy on knowledge about evolution.

You said every animal is designed to be eaten by something which is absolute nonsense.
Animals do not evolve to be eaten by other species, I think you mean that certain species evolved to live off decaying carcusses.

Well done for trying tho...

[_z3n_]

Originally Posted by mata

Push & pull. Case in point no one is making you 'go over the whole thing again', except yourself.

Mata you are the one who keeps saying things like "You didn't read my post." and "you have no interest whatsoever in an actual discussion." and saying that people just "keep re-hashing the pro-vegan viewpoint." etc.

You are asking for someone to go over the whole thing again because you keep trying to dismiss it all. I think VOTL's point was that, no, he is not just rehashing the vegan argument and being intolerant of meat-eaters; there was actually a logical sequence of discussions and arguments that he was responding to. You have been overly defensive since you began posting in this thread. No one is attacking you.

[_z3n_]

Originally Posted by tenzingnorgay

ALL ANIMALS ARE DESIGNED TO BE EATEN BY SOMETHING ELSE. EVERY SINGLE ANIMAL.

I'll challenge your argument with a contradiction. I would argue that a puffer fish has no discernable features which indicate that it is designed to be eaten. I would further argue that it is specifically designed not to be eaten, but that's not really the point.

[mata]

Originally Posted by _z3n_

Mata you are the one who keeps saying things like "You didn't read my post." and "you have no interest whatsoever in an actual discussion." and saying that people just "keep re-hashing the pro-vegan viewpoint." etc.

You are asking for someone to go over the whole thing again because you keep trying to dismiss it all. I think VOTL's point was that, no, he is not just rehashing the vegan argument and being intolerant of meat-eaters; there was actually a logical sequence of discussions and arguments that he was responding to. You have been overly defensive since you began posting in this thread. No one is attacking you.

I have not been defensive since entering this thread. Your language has been decidedly aggressive and I have had to contend with personal attacks - ie "you have nothing meaningful to say" - to quote yourself. You can try and pretend otherwise, twist it to suit yourself, I don't care - it is there and easy to see that you have been unreasonably aggressive towards me and I am entitled to respond in the way i see fit, thank you very much.

I'm not interested in arguing, I've wasted enough energy in bothering to respond to you at all. You are going to have to get your ego fix somewhere else. I know that the issues I've raised are more than valid enough for discussion. Beyond that, I also know that this thread is fast becoming a total BORE. Have fun

[_z3n_]

Originally Posted by mata

I'm not interested in arguing, I've wasted enough energy in bothering to respond to you at all. You are going to have to get your ego fix somewhere else. I know that the issues I've raised are more than valid enough for discussion. Beyond that, I also know that this thread is fast becoming a total BORE. Have fun

[enqueue BBC Planet Earth narrator]
"...and the slippery rabbit makes his swift escape!"