The Animals That You Eat Are Conscious Beings

thex1138 · 03-02-2012, 11:46 AM

Don't think so? Think they were "meant for food"? No, they're much more than merely lumps of meat that can walk around and breathe. Check the video.

http://www.monalle.com/elephant-artist/

wiseguy · 03-02-2012, 12:00 PM

Without watching the video - I agree

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al209 · 03-02-2012, 12:23 PM

I dont eat elephant.

curtaincat · 03-02-2012, 12:36 PM

elephants eat plants, and plants are conscious beings too. the food chain sucks ...

elephants can be trained to follow instructions to paint , if that is the video, but i am not gonna watch it at the moment.

anyway you sound like a judgemental goody goody.

Nobody said elephants are meant for food. who said that?

macchoi · 03-02-2012, 12:36 PM

Plants are also conciousness beings!

nirvana · 03-02-2012, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thex1138

Don't think so? Think they were "meant for food"? No, they're much more than merely lumps of meat that can walk around and breathe. Check the video.

http://www.monalle.com/elephant-artist/

We are food animals are food

if we and animals were not food we would not be in edible body suits. I know its sick but blame the creator and nature ,they have alot to answer for. Also the dust mites in our bed sheets are conscious beings and some sick people wash their bed sheets and kill them

plam · 03-02-2012, 02:16 PM

Haha, that tear-jerking video is actually quite funny!
The flower in the end put the cherry on the cake!
I'm sure many fake people were drawn to tears at that moment!
Pathetic!

There's no way the elephant can draw so well.
But let's assume it's true!

It's much bigger abuse training the elephant
to do something so unnatural to them as drawing
No elephant has the natural urge to draw
People project their phoney emotions onto the animals
It's nothing new.

This whole thing reminds me of the circus
I do feel sorry for the animals there
as they are made to behave like humans
only for the sake of our already over-inflated egos

So no, this video is not going to change anyone's eating habits
You shot yourself in the leg

vic mackey · 03-02-2012, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by plam

No elephant has the natural urge to draw
People project their phoney emotions onto the animals
It's nothing new.

This whole thing reminds me of the circus
I do feel sorry for the animals there
as they are made to behave like humans
only for the sake of our already over-inflated egos

Agreed, I think people are starting to get out of touch with reality in this modern western complex, hence the mixed emotions and guilt associated with eating meat.

Perhaps this is the effect of too much choice, In a survival situation, living in nature, you would not have the choice of the supermarket, you would eat what you could get, and be glad of some meat, or milk.

pepsi78 · 03-02-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by macchoi

Plants are also conciousness beings!

Prove it.

antiarchonist · 03-02-2012, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by vic mackey

Agreed, I think people are starting to get out of touch with reality in this modern western complex, hence the mixed emotions and guilt associated with eating meat.

Perhaps this is the effect too much choice, In a survival situation, living in nature, you would not have the choice of the supermarket, you would eat what you could get, and be glad of some meat, or milk.

Maybe not the milk thing. Apparently humans are the only animals who drink the milk of another animal. That could be bs though, I haven't bothered verifying it.

The human digestive system is not really designed for digesting meat. It is similar to an herbivore's yet it is not identical. There is a difference. Chimpanzees and other apes are mostly herbivores but they will occasionally eat meat.

This is probably one of the reasons people get IBS and the shits and stuff.

Perhaps we're not supposed to be eating meat but it is delicious unfortunately for the animals. And because I've ate meat my whole life it's not easy to stop. The meat protein does have positive effects. Travis Barker was given meat to help his burned skin heal and apparently it worked.

I feel sorry for animals domesticated for human pleasure and tricks like the elephants. I especially feel sorry for dolphins. IMO, the definition of a dolphin should be a 'person' and if that sounds silly, I suggest spending a few hours reading up on them. They are amazing animals.

But where do you draw the line? Unless you grow your own food, chances are that meat eaters cultivated the food you eat. Conscious animal blood is spilled no matter what goes in to your mouth. Are crabs and other crustaceans animals? They're large aquatic insects. Are insects conscious? Ants and Wasps are drones with specific programming. I don't think they have a 'soul' and they don't have a pineal gland. They are biological robots. So are psychopathic humans IMO.

bikerdruid · 03-02-2012, 05:09 PM

all living beings are sentient.
certainly animals are conscious beings, which is why it is so important that they are raised humanely, and slaughtered humanely, with respect and thanks.

we raise and hunt all of our own meat. it is done respectfully and humanely.

plam · 03-02-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by antiarchonist

They are biological robots.

So are humans with one slight difference - the robot is dreaming!

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Originally Posted by pepsi78

Prove it.

You know about the experiment with the two jars with rice soaked in water.
To one you say 'I love you' to the other one you say 'I hate you'
For a month you do that. Try it!

farros · 03-02-2012, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by curtaincat

elephants eat plants, and plants are conscious beings too. the food chain sucks ...
at?

Same old plants are living beings too shite. Try again. Until we give up meat, there will never be world peace. How can there be peace? how can we sing kum ba yah and see a banker skipping along with some aboriginee when just over the hill there is a factory full of innocent animals waiting to get their throat cut?

"But we shud umm.. liek.. stup dA Rapizts.. fErst.." Nope.. we cant control what a rapist does. But we can control what we put in our mouths. Meat eaters tend to be more agressive than veggies. If we all went veggie... crime rates would plummet. Those riots last year.. all in areas where fried chicken and halal shops were ten a penny.

pepsi78 · 03-02-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by plam

So are humans with one slight difference - the robot is dreaming!

You know about the experiment with the two jars with rice soaked in water.
To one you say 'I love you' to the other one you say 'I hate you'
For a month you do that. Try it!

Plants are not aware of English, they are reacting to the violent sound wave pattern. Waves just like the sun just like other things can cause damage.

I don't think plant life is offended by English, but rather by the tone of the sound of how it is said. This implies and require no conciosnes at all on the behalf of plants.

pepsi78 · 03-02-2012, 06:32 PM

Double Post removed..

bikerdruid · 03-02-2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pepsi78

I don't think plant life is offended by English, but rather by the tone of the sound of how it is said. This implies and require no conciosnes at all on the behalf of plants.

It's really how you scream out and the tone of your voice, not what you really say.

wow....contradiction...
plants do not understand english, but are sensitive to tone and volume, so therefore are void of consciousness????

pepsi78 · 03-02-2012, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bikerdruid

wow....contradiction...
plants do not understand english, but are sensitive to tone and volume, so therefore are void of consciousness????

They are sensitive to tone like your skin cells are receptive to sunlight, it does not make every living cell in your body conscious. There is no contradiction.

bikerdruid · 03-02-2012, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pepsi78

They are sensitive to tone like your skin cells are receptive to sunlight, it does not make every living cell in your body conscious. There is no contradiction.

oooooookay.

pepsi78 · 03-02-2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bikerdruid

oooooookay.

You think plant life is conscious ? it rather depends how you define consciousness I guess, by being aware ? I don't know but when I see those animals blink I can't imagine them on my plate.

al209 · 03-02-2012, 07:06 PM

Whether you think a plant is conscious or not, it does not want to be eaten anymore than a cow does. It's fruits maybe, but certainly not its seeds or its leaves. You have to kill to live. Fact.

This is where someones arse opens up and talks about sungazing or breatharianism.

03-02-2012, 11:46 AM	#1
thex1138 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 247	The Animals That You Eat Are Conscious Beings Don't think so? Think they were "meant for food"? No, they're much more than merely lumps of meat that can walk around and breathe. Check the video. http://www.monalle.com/elephant-artist/

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wiseguy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,058	Without watching the video - I agree . __________________ Truther Memes.com - Awakening The World One Image At A Time! Illuminati Agenda.com - What Is The Illuminati? Who Are The Illuminati And What Have They Got Planned For YOU?

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curtaincat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 7,217	elephants eat plants, and plants are conscious beings too. the food chain sucks ... elephants can be trained to follow instructions to paint , if that is the video, but i am not gonna watch it at the moment. anyway you sound like a judgemental goody goody. Nobody said elephants are meant for food. who said that? __________________ ...

03-02-2012, 02:16 PM	#7
plam Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 4,264	Haha, that tear-jerking video is actually quite funny! The flower in the end put the cherry on the cake! I'm sure many fake people were drawn to tears at that moment! Pathetic! There's no way the elephant can draw so well. But let's assume it's true! It's much bigger abuse training the elephant to do something so unnatural to them as drawing No elephant has the natural urge to draw People project their phoney emotions onto the animals It's nothing new. This whole thing reminds me of the circus I do feel sorry for the animals there as they are made to behave like humans only for the sake of our already over-inflated egos So no, this video is not going to change anyone's eating habits You shot yourself in the leg __________________ This Prison is ours. Last edited by plam; 03-02-2012 at 02:18 PM.

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bikerdruid Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: north peace bioregion of north america's great boreal forest Posts: 9,649	all living beings are sentient. certainly animals are conscious beings, which is why it is so important that they are raised humanely, and slaughtered humanely, with respect and thanks. we raise and hunt all of our own meat. it is done respectfully and humanely. __________________ Subvert the Dominant Paradigm!

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al209 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,183	I dont eat elephant.

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macchoi Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,157	Plants are also conciousness beings!

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pepsi78 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,498	Double Post removed.. Last edited by pepsi78; 03-02-2012 at 06:35 PM.

03-02-2012, 07:06 PM	#20
al209 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,183	Whether you think a plant is conscious or not, it does not want to be eaten anymore than a cow does. It's fruits maybe, but certainly not its seeds or its leaves. You have to kill to live. Fact. This is where someones arse opens up and talks about sungazing or breatharianism.