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| destroy melt down for scrap and the profits given to victims of Communism |
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2 | 66.67% |
| No they should remain Communism is a nice kosher ideology |
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| It's wrong to glorify the biggest mass murdering ideology of the past century |
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2 | 66.67% |
| Covert Neo Communists in power maybe the reason why some statues remain |
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2 | 66.67% |
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![]() The prominent Yugoslav dissident writer, Milovan Djilas, wrote in his book, Conversations with Stalin: Every crime was possible to Stalin, for there was not one he had not committed. Whatever standards we use to take his measure, in any event – let us hope for all time to come – to him falls the ‘glory’ of being the greatest criminal in history. For in him was joined the criminal senselessness of a Caligula with the refinement of a Borgia and the brutality of the Czar Ivan the Terrible. These words came to my mind immediately upon reading an article in a Seattle online newspaper about the demolition of the statue of Stalin in the Republic of Georgia. The author of the article recounted: Authorities in Georgia tore down a [6-feet high] monument to Soviet dictator Josef Stalin in his birthplace of Gori to make way for a memorial to the fallen in the Russian-Georgian war of 2008. “A memorial to Stalin has no place in the Georgia of the 21st Century,” President Mikhail Saakashvili said in his televised comments. There had been literally tens of thousands of Stalin’s monuments erected across the Soviet Union. When I lived in Russia, Ukraine, Uzbekistan, and Lithuania, I saw dozens of those grandiose sculptures towering above the central squares of Moscow, Kiev, Vladivostok, Kazan, Tashkent, Leningrad, Minsk, Vilnius, etcetera, etcetera. Alexander Solzhenitsyn vividly described that bacchanalia of the Stalin’s cult of personality in his famous novel, The First Circle: [Stalin’s] likeness had been sculpted in stone; painted in oil, water colors, gouache, sepia; drawn in charcoal and chalk; formed out of wayside pebbles, sea shells, glazed tiles, grains of wheat and soy beans; carved from ivory, grown in grass, woven into rugs, pictured in the sky by squadrons of planes in formation, and photographed on motion picture film… like no other likeness during the three billion years of the earth’s crust. The article in the Seattle paper went on: Communists and other older generation residents share a nostalgia for their man who [brutally] dragged the Soviet Union into the industrial age. Well, I am afraid not only Communists share that peculiar sort of nostalgia for Stalin the Murderer; many American liberals of older generations (or, as they now prefer to be called, progressives) probably recall with affection the Old Joe, as the hopelessly naďve President Roosevelt used to call tenderly that greatest butcher in human history. Liberals’ record of defending each and every crime of Stalin is just appalling. The New York Times, Life, Newsweek, Washington Post, Time, and a multitude of other liberal media outlets had tried to convince their readers in the 1930 and 4os that the notorious Moscow show trials were examples of legal integrity, that no starvation in Ukraine was taken place, that Stalin was leading Russia into the age of liberte, egalite, and fraternite. American liberal politicians, including the progressive presidents, acted vis-ŕ-vis Stalin as his devoted fans and agents, instead of acting as his determined ideological adversaries. As Ann Coulter writes in her brilliant book, Treason: It is a fact that hundreds of agents of this blood-soaked ideology [of Communism] became top advisors to [liberal] presidents, infiltrated every segment of the United States government, [and] held top positions in the White House, the State Department, the Treasury Department, the Army, and the OSS [the Office of Strategic Services]. Two years ago, I went to Lithuania, where I had lived for ten years before coming to America. There, next to the charming little town of Druskininkai, Lithuanians have erected a replica of a Stalinist concentration camp, with dilapidated barracks, watchtowers, barbed wire, and the incessant bark of bloodthirsty hounds. In the middle of the camp there’s a long walkway, with dozens of statues of Lenin and Stalin that had been removed from the squares and streets of Lithuanian towns. Watching that cemetery of dismantled “semi-Gods”, I thought that there was one statue in the former Soviet Union that probably would never be destroyed – the statue of Stalin in his native Georgia. I was wrong. The last statue of Stalin has finally been demolished. http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/07/...e-of-stalin/2/ |
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Lenin statue with red star for Christmas Lenin statue in Fremont, Seattle, Washington The Statue of Lenin in Seattle is a 16 foot (5 m) bronze sculpture of Bolshevik Russian Communist revolutionary Vladimir Lenin located in the Fremont neighborhood. The statue was constructed by a Slovak Bulgarian sculptor, Emil Venkov, under commission from the Soviet and Czechoslovak governments. While following the bounds of his commission, Venkov intended to portray Lenin as a bringer of revolution, in contrast to the traditional portrayals of Lenin as a philosopher and educator. His Lenin marches ahead fiercely, surrounded by torrid flames and symbols of war. Venkov's work was completed and installed in Poprad, Czechoslovakia (now Slovakia), in 1988, shortly before the fall of Czechoslovak communism during the 1989 Velvet Revolution. Despite popular belief the Poprad Lenin was not toppled in the demonstrations during the fall of communism. Instead, it was quietly removed from Lenin's Square, in front of Poprad's main hospital, several months after the Velvet Revolution. Lewis E. Carpenter, a resident of Issaquah, Washington, who was teaching English in Poprad, found the monumental statue lying in a scrapyard ready to be sold for the price of the bronze. In close collaboration with a local journalist and good friend, Tomáš Fülöpp, Carpenter approached the city officials with a claim that despite its current unpopularity, the sculpture was still a work of art worth preserving, and he offered to buy it for $13,000. After many bureaucratic hurdles, he finally signed a contract with the mayor on March 16, 1993.[1] Close up of the effigy With the help of the original sculptor, the statue was professionally cut into three pieces and shipped to the United States at a total cost of $41,000. Lewis Carpenter financed much of that via mortgaging his home. On February 18, 1994 in the midst of the uproar in Seattle that was set off by his import of a statue of a communist leader, Lewis Carpenter was killed in a car accident.[2] The statue, now part of his estate, was left lying in his backyard. The family contacted a local brass foundry, who offered to move it off the property. In 1995 the statue was first placed in Fremont at the corner of N 34th St & Evanston Ave N, one block south of a salvaged Cold War rocket fuselage, another artistic Fremont attraction. It now stands two blocks northward at the intersection of Evanston Ave N, N 36th St, and Fremont Place, outside a felafel shop and a gelato shop. This new location is just 3 blocks west of the Fremont Troll, another Fremont art installation under the Washington State Route 99 bridge. The Carpenter family continues to seek a buyer for the statue. The asking price as of 2006 is $250,000, up from a 1995 price tag of $150,000. Lenin statue with red star for Christmas Fremont was considered a quirky artistic community, and like other statues in the neighborhood (such as Waiting for the Interurban), the Lenin statue is often the victim of various artistic projects, endorsed or not. A glowing red star and sometimes Christmas lights have been added to the statue for Christmas since 2004. For the 2004 Solstice Parade, the statue was made to look like John Lennon. During Gay Pride Week, the statue is dressed in drag. Other appropriations of the statue have included painting it as a clown, and clothing it in a custom-fitted red dress by the Seattle Hash House Harriers for their annual Red Dress Run. The statue appears in a scene in the yet-to-be-released motion picture, "Manalive" (2009). |
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Memento Park is an open air museum in Budapest, dedicated to monumental statues from Hungary's Communist period (1949–1989). There are statues of Lenin, Marx, and Engels, as well as Hungarian Communist leaders such as Béla Kun, Endre Ságvári, or Árpád Szakasits. The park was designed by Hungarian architect, Ákos Eleőd, who won the competition announced by the Budapest General Assembly (Fővárosi Közgyűlés) in 1991.
Most Eastern European countries ceremoniously destroyed Soviet-era relics once they gave occupying forces the boot. However, rather than demolish all vestiges of a painful past, the city of Budapest removed 42 statues from prominent locations and placed them in a suburban park. Statues of Lenin, Marx, and Engels are all displayed, along with the Boots, a 1-to-1 replica of the remainder of a 27-foot-tall Stalin statue that an angry crowd tore down in 1956. |
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The Poll is open you're allowed to make multiple choices.
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QUESTION:
What do a hated foreign Communist dictator and a rich ‘Socialist’ British MP have in common? ANSWER. They were both known as Enver! THE dictator in question was Enver Hoxha of Albania (1). To this day, no-one is too sure how many people ‘disappeared’ whilst he ruled. However, it’s probably safe to assume that he would have gave Hitler (2), Stalin (3) and Pol Pot (4) a run for their money! Hoxha ruled Albania with an iron fist. The Sigurimi (Albanian secret police) routinely violated the privacy of persons, homes, and communications and made arbitrary arrests. Hodge? And the rich ‘Socialist’ British MP? Well, it’s Margaret Hodge – MP for Barking in East London. So what’s the link? In 1973, Hodge was elected as a councillor in the Borough of Islington in North London (5). Later on – in 1982 – she became the Leader of Islington Council. She held this post for ten years (6). It was during this time that she became referred to as “Enver Hodge” (7). (‘Hoxha’ is pronounced ‘Hodga’ and sounds like Hodge). She had become the focus of antagonism from “old-guard”, former Labour Party members who felt that their party had been “taken over” by middle-class incomers. Apparently, in those days, Hodge sported a bust of Lenin and flew the red flag over the town hall (8). These days, Hodge is probably not so keen on spreading the wealth. According to a report in The Times, the Oppenheimer family, of which Hodge is a member, is worth a cool Ł178m (9). That’s not bad for a British ‘Socialist’ MP is it? http://margarethodge.net/category/labour-split/ Trevor Phillips and his love of Communist Murderers In 2003, one or two newspapers and internet newsgroups took note of a particular report only for it to disappear just as swiftly. This is a pity, for it said almost all one needs to know about the loathsomeness of much of our contemporary Establishment and the 'anti-racist' religion in particular. The following appeared in Andrew Pierce’s ‘People’ column in TheTimes, 29th May 2003, p8…Trevor Phillips, the head of the Campaign for Racial Equality,has revealed in the Irish Post why a bust of Lenin sits on his desk. “It’s there as a reminder. . . Just because the Soviet experiment failed, we should not throw everything Lenin did out the window.” Just what did Mr Phillips have in mind? Perhaps the capture of the apparatus of the State by a minority of collectivist extremists and the subsequent extinction of individual liberty in the name of “the good of the many”? Even so, one doubts – one hopes! - that Mr Phillips would go so far as advocating the physical liquidation of the bourgeoisie and anyone else deemed “enemies of the people”… http://kirkleesresistance.blogspot.c...s-love-of.html Last edited by eternal_spirit; 25-01-2012 at 05:49 PM. |
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The Oppenheimers, who fronted the nuclear bomb scam, set up Rothschild as king of the Jews. Real king likely elsewhere
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No voters? Any more info or Neo Communists?
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