Nudity

[merla]

Originally Posted by lexferenda

When one attains a certain level of understanding which comes from awareness of who one really is, it becomes easier to discern the meaning of events portrayed in Christian scripture.

Let's take a look at the fall of mankind.

When God created Adam and Eve, he pronounced them good. This does not mean that they were morally good. What this means is that their bodies were biologically perfect. The story of the fall of mankind tells us that Adam And Eve did something to ruin the perfection of their bodies (in scriptural terms, this ruination is thought of as a corruption that caused death and disease to enter the World).

When Adam and Eve realised that they had "broken" the wonderfull bodies God had given them, they hid their bodies from the sight of God because of what they had done to themselves, not because they realised they were naked. The shame they felt at ruining their perfect bodies drove them to desire the wearing of clothes, so that God could not see what they had done to their wonderfull bodies.

Nudity, then, is nothing to be ashamed of. No part of the body is considered to be shamefull to expose to the sight of God. God created our bodies, and he delights in the sight of us the way He intended us to be: as naked as the day we were born.

Agree with this so much. I also don't like the assumption that the body is somehow inherently shameful and I really dislike the attitude of naked = sexual 100% of the time.

[arcyclus]

Originally Posted by ftil

I was wondering when we are going to have a thread about nudity.
On another forum, a few members opened two threads about public nudity in 4 months. Hot subject........or just programming.








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[ftil]

Originally Posted by merla

Agree with this so much. I also don't like the assumption that the body is somehow inherently shameful and I really dislike the attitude of naked = sexual 100% of the time.

Well, not feeling shame about one’s body doesn’t mean that people need to run naked to see others vagina or penis. Exhibitionism is a defense mechanism against shame like rage, perfectionism, arrogance, or denial. People will not heal their shame exposing private parts. If shame has been internalized, they need to do inner work.

Second, you must be kidding saying that nakedness is not sexual. Why we are bombarded with images of nakedness in movies, TV, music video, or advertisement so that people run like on a triple dose of Viagra. You may also deny violence and rape of women and not seeing connections with movies or advertisement. You may need to read Giordano Bruno’s work, a renaissance magician, to understand how images affect our soul and body.

[merla]

Originally Posted by ftil

Well, not feeling shame about one’s body doesn’t mean that people need to run naked to see others vagina or penis. Exhibitionism is a defense mechanism against shame like rage, perfectionism, arrogance, or denial. People will not heal their shame exposing private parts. If shame has been internalized, they need to do inner work.

Second, you must be kidding saying that nakedness is not sexual. Why we are bombarded with images of nakedness in movies, TV, music video, or advertisement so that people run like on a triple dose of Viagra. You may also deny violence and rape of women and not seeing connections with movies or advertisement. You may need to read Giordano Bruno’s work, a renaissance magician, to understand how images affect our soul and body.

I'm not talking about exhibitionism, I'm talking about accepting your body as perfectly natural and nothing to get all hung up on or be embarrassed about.

I said nudity doesn't always mean sexual not that nudity is never sexual There's a huge difference between the nudity used in the media which is intentionally sexualised and what I'm talking about. When you take your clothes off to have a shower that isn't sexual is it?

[ftil]

Originally Posted by merla

I'm not talking about exhibitionism, I'm talking about accepting your body as perfectly natural and nothing to get all hung up on or be embarrassed about.

I said nudity doesn't always mean sexual not that nudity is never sexual There's a huge difference between the nudity used in the media which is intentionally sexualised and what I'm talking about. When you take your clothes off to have a shower that isn't sexual is it?

Where did I say that shame about own body is healthy? Shame is a feeling that cripples people and it needs to be healed. There is no doubt about it if people want to free themselves from constrains that were imposed upon them.


You misunderstood what I said. Why do they push so hard for nakedness by making TV series or making a fashion show with naked models? Now, some people, like OP, use the Bible to convince others that nakedness means seeing others humanness.

[merla]

Originally Posted by ftil

Where did I say that shame about own body is healthy? Shame is a feeling that cripples people and it needs to be healed. There is no doubt about it if people want to free themselves from constrains that were imposed upon them.


You misunderstood what I said. Why do they push so hard for nakedness by making TV series or making a fashion show with naked models? Now, some people, like OP, use the Bible to convince others that nakedness means seeing others humanness.

Sexualising nudity has done two things I think, firstly made people even more insecure about themselves and secondly made people paranoid about each other. 20 years about you could take a picture of your child having a splash in a bubble bath or of them wandering about the garden nude (some toddlers like to take their clothes off when playing out in the summer) and noone thought anything of it but now people are afraid to do that in case the person developing the photos thinks they're abusing their kids and calls the police on them.

[tjohn]

Originally Posted by ftil

Oh, so people need to get used to seeing nakedness to see each other as real humans. What a bunch of crap. In your logic, seeing somebody’s breast, vagina, or penis means seeing true humanness and without seeing penis or vagina it is impossible to see humanness.

I didn't say that.

You may believe that your penis is your identity and nothing else human has left but don't make assumptions that everybody is like you. I really believe in devolution.

A man's penis is part of his physical identity and so is his face - do you think that people should cover their face up? Why the big thing about sexual organs being seen in public?

Second, we leave in a culture where we are bombarded with images of violence and rape of women in movies. How convenient to escalate violence and rape of women..........there would be no excuse for women. After all, they were naked.........and they asked for it.

Listen: there would be less rape if everyone were naked. Sexy clothes often tantalize and tease as much or more than the body underneath. Go to a nudist/naturist beach and see for yourself. Will you be able to control yourself and not rape anyone? Or will you have more respect for people than getting all worked up in a public place? Even if you did get sexually aroused, so what? As long as you don't interfere with anyone you are not doing harm to anyone.

There was a time when it was considered 'naughty' for a woman to show her ankles in a public place; yet very few people make a fuss about that now. So get used to it.

BTW, You are sick of deceptions and lies in religion but you are happy to accept the concept of nudity in the Bible.

The bible has a mixture of truth and deception (in my opinion) but we were made naked and we are born naked.

[ftil]

Originally posted by merla
Sexualising nudity has done two things I think, firstly made people even more insecure about themselves and secondly made people paranoid about each other. 20 years about you could take a picture of your child having a splash in a bubble bath or of them wandering about the garden nude (some toddlers like to take their clothes off when playing out in the summer) and noone thought anything of it but now people are afraid to do that in case the person developing the photos thinks they're abusing their kids and calls the police on them.

Yes, and we have to deal with what we have today and how we have been programmed. Otherwise, we are living in a deep denial, fooling ourselves that we are awakened. What a smart way to brainwash people.

Originally posted by tjohn

A man's penis is part of his physical identity and so is his face - do you think that people should cover their face up? Why the big thing about sexual organs being seen in public?

LOL!!!!! I was right when I said that you saw your penis as your identity. Thanks for good laughter. The problem is that some people only see their penis as the ultimate identity. Head and heart are........useless parts.
You may believe that showing your penis should be public. I wouldn’t want to see it though.

Listen: there would be less rape if everyone were naked. Sexy clothes often tantalize and tease as much or more than the body underneath. Go to a nudist/naturist beach and see for yourself. Will you be able to control yourself and not rape anyone? Or will you have more respect for people than getting all worked up in a public place? Even if you did get sexually aroused, so what? As long as you don't interfere with anyone you are not doing harm to anyone.

It is a big difference to go the nudist beach and walk naked on the street or in the office. If you don’t see the difference........it is hopeless. Nothing will be wrong if you are naked and get aroused...... really ?And than what do you do? If a woman who has aroused you doesn’t want to have anything with you.........what you will do? Masturbate in front of her?

Second, if you think that it would be less rape you are in total denial.

The bible has a mixture of truth and deception (in my opinion) but we were made naked and we are born naked.

No doubt that we were born naked. Nature has also created winter or just has fucked up............to prevent nakedness???????

[tjohn]

Originally Posted by ftil

Yes, and we have to deal with what we have today and how we have been programmed. Otherwise, we are living in a deep denial, fooling ourselves that we are awakened. What a smart way to brainwash people.

To be frank, I think it is you that is brainwashed.

LOL!!!!! I was right when I said that you saw your penis as your identity. Thanks for good laughter.

Again, I didn't say that. I said it is a part of a man's identity.

The problem is that some people only see their penis as the ultimate identity. Head and heart are........useless parts.

When in love, a man's penis can become important for him to feel loved in a sexual way and that involves the heart as well as the head.

You may believe that showing your penis should be public. I wouldn’t want to see it though.

Please yourself, I'm not bothered.

It is a big difference to go the nudist beach and walk naked on the street or in the office. If you don’t see the difference........it is hopeless.

Explain. No don't bother, because I'm getting tired and bored now.

Nothing will be wrong if you are naked and get aroused...... really? And than what do you do?

Ah! You are from the US where people say "than" rather than "then" - which are two entirely different words.

If a woman who has aroused you doesn’t want to have anything with you.........what you will do? Masturbate in front of her?

Of course not, would you? What consenting adults do in private though is their business and another thing.

Second, if you think that it would be less rape you are in total denial.

Yes that's what I think and I am not in denial as seen by the reasons I explained in another post

No doubt that we were born naked. Nature has also created winter or just has fucked up............to prevent nakedness???????

If it's cold it would be wise to get covered up from the cold.

[tjohn]

Originally Posted by merla

Sexualising nudity has done two things I think, firstly made people even more insecure about themselves and secondly made people paranoid about each other.

I agree, merla.

[ftil]

Originally Posted by tjohn

To be frank, I think it is you that is brainwashed.

Oh, yes. I am brainwashed because I don’t need to see penises or vaginas to see humanness. I understand humanness in a much bigger sense where brain and heart are of the highest values. No penis or vagina.

When in love, a man's penis can become important for him to feel loved in a sexual way and that involves the heart as well as the head.

You didn’t talk about love but public nudity. I said that many women as well as men wouldn’t be interested to see your penis.......oops I mean your identity.

Explain. No don't bother, because I'm getting tired and bored now.

LOL! Your brain must is overwhelmed by now

Of course not, would you? What consenting adults do in private though is their business and another thing.

We were talking about public nudity. It sounds that you either got lost in your thoughts or you lack an argument. You said that nothing was wrong with being aroused. I said if you were aroused being naked in the public what would you do? Masturbate in front of the woman. You didn’t answer it.

[lavista4u]

Friends...Never EVER go naked in front of gods.....NEVER EVER..I have personally experienced this...Gods feel ashamed in turn when you become naked...always cover yourself when you go to gods....

[tjohn]

Originally Posted by ftil

Oh, yes. I am brainwashed because I don’t need to see penises or vaginas to see humanness. I understand humanness in a much bigger sense where brain and heart are of the highest values. No penis or vagina.

You didn’t talk about love but public nudity. I said that many women as well as men wouldn’t be interested to see your penis.......oops I mean your identity.


LOL! Your brain must is overwhelmed by now

We were talking about public nudity. It sounds that you either got lost in your thoughts or you lack an argument. You said that nothing was wrong with being aroused. I said if you were aroused being naked in the public what would you do? Masturbate in front of the woman. You didn’t answer it.

I didn't need to answer and I don't have to do anything with an erection if I get one, do you?

As for the rest it was very dishonest of you.

Flippin christianity and other religions have people with very narrow minds that won't see beyond a brick wall that has been put in front of them and there is no point in arguing the matter any further... yes I give up but as far as I am concerned, that does not mean you have won the argument. So, let us agree to disagree. OK?

Back to bed.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

[ftil]

Originally Posted by tjohn

I didn't need to answer and I don't have to do anything with an erection if I get one, do you?

You don’t have to do anything with your erection........you will just be walking in public places with your willy standing hard. It will help others to see your humanness.

As for the rest it was very dishonest of you.

Well, I am honest. Don’t project your issues upon me. You didn’t answer my questions. Too painful to be honest, eh?

Flippin christianity and other religions have people with very narrow minds that won't see beyond a brick wall that has been put in front of their eyes and there is no point in arguing the matter any further... yes I give up but as far as I am concerned, that does not mean you have won the argument. So, let us agree to disagree. OK?

Back to bed.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

Do you mean Filipino ? What has Filipino Christianity to do with public nudity. Are you Filipino? If that so you need to understand that world is much bigger than Filipino.

Second, it may important for you to win an argument. I careless if I win or lose but I can’t stand stupidity in any discussion I have had. We got a brain for a reason.

[jimj_wpg]

Just like they have Gay Pride Parades and Anti-War Parades...

...There should be a Nude Parade...

It would allow those of us, one day per year where we could go outside with NO clothes on at all and march in favour of more public nudity.

Well, I am honest. Don’t project your issues upon me. You didn’t answer my questions. Too painful to be honest, eh?

I think some people have this association of words with nudity..."honesty" is one of them.

[william68]

Adam and Eve understanding their naked is a symbol of the spiritual rebirth. The whole story is originally from ancient Sumerian and invoked ENKI (who was also shown as a Serpent in some images, and is the Creator God). Before being taken by the hebrews and rewrote to the Yahweh cult form we have today.

http://see_the_truth.webs.com/Exposing_Corruption.htm

Exposing Spiritual Corruption:
Spiritual Alchemy
&
The Bible

True Satanism is based upon the ancient religions that predated Judaism, Christianity, and Islam by hundreds to thousands of years. The traditional colors of black and red used in Satanism, date all the way back to Ancient Egypt and are symbolic of spiritual transformation. The ancient religions were based upon completing our Creator Satan's work: that of transforming the human soul into that of a god and achieving god-like power and immortality. Satan's Kingdom was stolen from him.

The Judeo/Christian Bible is a corruption of stolen material that has been used to spiritually enslave humanity. All of the legends of the Gods are allegories. The Vatican and its cohorts have gained wealth, power, and control by forcing people to believe these allegories are literal places and characters.

The completion of the work, what is known in alchemy as the "Magnum Opus" has its foundation in the kundalini. The kundalini serpent lies coiled at the base of the spine. Through meditation, the fiery serpent ascends. This is what is known as "Raising the Devil." There are 33 vertebrae in the in the human spinal column. We often hear the term "33rd degree Mason" or that the fictitious nazarene lived 33 years. The kundalini serpent ascends the 33 vertebrae of the spine.

The seven chakras are also very important in the work. When the kundalini ascends, it must pierce through each of the seven chakras. This is why there is so much emphasis on the number seven in many ancient spiritual texts and also what has been corrupted in the Judeo/Christian Bible. Christian leaders mislead their followers through deceiving them into believing the stolen legends in the bible are real. Through this deception, the Vatican and Christian churches have obtained unbelievable wealth and power. This power is not only in the material world, but in the spiritual as well. All spiritual knowledge was systematically removed with the Inquisition. Those at the top are adept at black magick and have advanced to spiritual power, while the rest of humanity suffers under their control.

Many ancient paintings we are told are of the nazarene, "virgin mary" and related are really of the Original Gods, such as Marduk (Amon Ra) and Astaroth. The Magnum Opus begins ideally in the spring when the Sun is in Aries, thus the man standing with the lamb. The halo is the ascended kundalini and the vibrant aura of witchpower. The Catholic Church stole this and has been passing it off as their fictitious nazarene. The glyphs for the sign of Aries can be readily seen in Astaroth's Sigil:

(All of the Demon Sigils are designs of important alchemical symbols).

The story of the creation in the book of genesis is another allegory: "God' creates the universe in "seven days," "On the seventh day he rested." Those of us who are educated know once the kundalini serpent has ascended through the 6 chakras and passed through the three "knots" (trinity), the seventh is effortless. In truth, "Heaven" is a code word for the seventh chakra. We have all heard the term "Seventh heaven." "God" is a code word for ourselves and also the word "Gods" is a code for the chakras in many ancient texts. "Hell" is a code word for the base chakra, aka "the lower world" where the scorching hot kundalini serpent lies dormant.

The tree in the "Garden of Eden" in the bible was stolen from many different religions predating Christianity and symbolizes a map of the human soul, the trunk of the tree representing the human spine, with the branches symbolizing the "144,000" nadis. "Adam and Eve" symbolize the Ida and the Pingala, where the two meet and become one. With the ascended kundalini and the fusion of the ida and pingala at the 6th chakra, gnosis is obtained and one's spiritual eyes are opened. This was originally symbolized in the Egyptian "All-seeing Eye."
The separated capstone atop the pyramid symbolizes our Creator Satan's unfinshed work.

The number 12 is also ubiquitous in many ancient texts and also in the stolen material of the bible. The number 12 symbolizes the 12 steps in the magnum opus. These are based upon the 12 signs of the zodiac.

Genesis 1
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
The heaven and earth symbolize the crown and base chakras

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
"Without form and void" represent what is known as the "chaos" stage in the magnum opus.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
The light is where one creates what is known as the prima materia, the foundation of the philosopher's stone. This is done by condensing the bioelectricity/chi into a ball of light.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
This is a first step and foundation, thus "the first day."

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

The above verses regarding the "two great lights" symbolize the heart chakra, where "heaven" and "earth" meet. As we can see in the downward point of Satan's Sigil, the Satanic Pentagram, and Baphomet, light descends through the crown to the base chakra.


20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
"The elixir of life, the blessed waters, penetrate down to them [the metals/chakras] and rouse them from their sleep." This is what is known as the "dew" that is secreted by the pineal gland as a result of power meditation. Birds are also very important symbols in alchemy.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

From the above, again the ALLEGORY is perverted and twisted. The "sixth day" is the sixth chakra where the male and female ida and pingala meet.

3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work, which God created and made.
Here is another alchemical allegory that was stolen and twisted. When the alchemist has completed his/her work, he/she rests. "God" = OURSELVES!

The genesis saga continues, all of it stolen and corrupted from religions predating xianity.

Genesis 3: 3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

There is the stage in alchemy where one undergoes a death of the prima materia. This is known as "nigredo" "black stage."

"The initial, black stage of the opus alchymicum in which the body of the impure metal, the matter of the Stone, or the old outmoded state of being is killed, putrefied and dissolved into the original substance of the creation, the prima materia, in order that it may be renovated and reborn in a new form."¹
Here is where the fictitious nazarene was also invented. The nazarene was stolen from some 18+ Pagan Gods who were "crucified" on a cross or hung from a tree. All of this is an allegory, for example: The Norse God Odin hung from a tree and experienced a death of sorts to obtain knowledge. Through being reborn, he obtained gnosis. The cross represents the all-important four quarters. This is also the meaning of the hanged man card in the Tarot. The Egyptian phoenix has the same meaning- rebirth through fire. The eclipse said to have occurred during the supposed "crucifixion" of the nazarene also symbolizes the nigredo stage of blackness. This stage is also symbolized by the black crow and the Black Sun.

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
The kundalini serpent transforms, but does not kill.

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
This is the gnosis that the Christian Churches and their nefarious cohorts have relentlessly worked against. Once our eyes have been opened, we can no longer be deceived by ANY lies!

7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
Nakedness is another allegory of rebirth. Everyone is born naked.

Now, we get to "Noah" and the ark, which was stolen from the Sumerian epic of Ziusudra.

"Noah's flood is a symbol for the 'dissolution of the Stone's matter into the prima materia during the nigredo. At this stage of the opus, the cold, moist, feminine principle (Luna) is said to dominate the hot, dry coagulating male aspect of the opus (Sol)." ²
The water element is feminine, while the fire element is masculine. This stage of the opus is symbolized by a flood of energy which is symbolized by the flood of waters. The flood is another allegory of death and regeneration. The ark itself is symbolic of the human body. The allegory of the crow not returning to the ark is symbolic of the stage is not yet completed. The "dove" symbolizes the white stage aka the "albedo."

"The albedo occurs after the blackened matter, the putrefied body of the metal or the matter for the stone, lying dead at the bottom of the alembic, has been washed to whiteness by the mercurial waters." ³
It is readily apparent how this allegory has been corrupted into an assumed actual event, complete with characters.

4 And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.
AGAIN, the number seven and "rest." This symbolizes the seventh chakra, which is effortless bliss and the " mountains of Ararat" symbolize the completed work, which was STOLEN from the meaning of the Egyptian pyramids- the apex point at the top which has its foundation at the four quarters.

Now, I might also add here- to the fools who have been attacking Enili/Beelzebub with drowning humanity- GET A LIFE!!!!
Knowledge comes from Satan.

13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.

The "bow" is the rainbow, the iridescent colors that indicate another higher stage of the magnum opus has been completed. THIS STAGE, I MIGHT ADD IS ALSO SYMBOLIZED BY THE PEACOCK. THE PEACOCK IS A SYMBOL OF AND IS SACRED TO SATAN!

Verse 13 reads: "a covenant between me and the earth." "God" is another alchemical code word for the crown chakra, aka "heaven" (the top three chakras are also symbolic of 'heaven') "paradise" "bliss" and the earth is the lower world, symbolized by the three lower chakras. This indicates "heaven" and earth have been merged at the heart chakra.

The following biblical books are the fictitious history of the Jewish people. The "torah" was STOLEN and corrupted from the Egyptian Tarot. The "Torah" is also known as the "Pentateuch," the five books of "Moses" (another fictitious character). One can see this was stolen from the five suits of the Tarot- the wands/rods (suit of fire); the pentacles (suit of earth); the cups (suit of water); and the swords (suit of air) and of course the trump, representing the element of the quintessence.

"The nigredo stage ends on the surface of a starry aspect, which is likened to the night sky which told shepherds and kings that a child was born in Bethlehem." 4
AGAIN, this is symbolic and indicates another stage of the work, when one can 'see' the light of the chi stone in the black void, when one's eyes are closed, during meditation. The "three" magi represent the three stages of the work. The fictitious nazarene- the stone (which was born from the work).

"There are three stones, or three works, or three degrees of perfection, within the work." 5
Here we go again with twisted allegories in relation to that fictitious nazarene – the "crucifixion" – two others were crucified with the nazarene, making three.

I could go on and on and on, citing biblical verses and revealing how they were stolen and corrupted. The character of the nazarene, which was invented from an allegory has:

1. Acted to remove all spiritual knowledge and replace it with bullshit. The "Jesus saves" crap (ad nauseum) and the "born again" have been twisted and incorporated into this fictitious character. in other words, deluded ones have been deceived into believing this character will take care of everything spiritual as long as they conform to the agenda.

2. The "Jesus" character has acted as the thought police for ultimate control. Wars have been fought repeatedly over beliefs and ideas. Control what is in the mind of humanity and you will control humanity.

3. Since the nazarene is fictitious, he can be anything to anyone which those in powerful positions in the xian program dictate. He can change with the times and conform to any agenda.

It is time everyone wakes up to the spiritual corruption that has played humanity to the tune of trillions and trillions of dollars, souls and everything else these parasites have taken their followers for a ride with.





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References

¹A Dictionary of Alchemical Imagery by Lyndy Abraham © 1998
²Ibid
³Ibid
4The Hermetic Museum: Alchemy & Mysticism by Alexander Roob © 2001
5Alchemy: The Secret Art by Stanislas Klossowski De Rola © 1973

Le Mystère des Cathédrales by Fulcanelli © 1964



© Copyright 2006, Joy of Satan Ministries;
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[isabeau]

Originally Posted by apollo_gnomon

yeah. Nearly 300 views and only 3 replies?

If anyone wants to win the David Icke writing contest just title it 'Nudity', over a thousand views guaranteed....

[ftil]

Originally Posted by jimj_wpg

I think some people have this association of words with nudity..."honesty" is one of them.

I guess some people are quite confused.......they don't understand what integrity means.

[weeman]

Originally Posted by isabeau

If anyone wants to win the David Icke writing contest just title it 'Nudity', over a thousand views guaranteed....

Only a smart cookie would think of that!

Or a cheating so and so

*weeman quickly changes his competition entry title to 'Nudity'....*

[noobcybot]

They say that the tribal people have no fetishes.....that is to say the guys dont consider themselves a leg or a breast man they look at the woman as a hole.......I mean a whole.

Our society may be too far gone to go back because there are so many perverts and frustrated deviants due to our taboos.