Nuclear bombs are a hoax

[rodin]

There is a fundamental connection between electric and nuclear that goes beyond standard model science. eg em radiation speeds up nuclear decay - not taught in textbooks of course..

So called photons are claimed to be able to displace electrons (despite having only a tiny fraction of the 'momentum' of the emerging electron). But even phantasy physiks does not claim photons can displace nucleons.

Yet

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222978

[sniper13x]

Originally Posted by rodin

Good discussion above^

I am pushing the work of Dennis Fetcho right now as he seems to have his eye on the ball and ear to the ground.

Inside the Eye

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=223217

Tonight he kicks off with great info about how often Iran has been two years away from getting a nuclear bomb. More nuke lies.

http://k006.kiwi6.com/hotlink/60ywb2...2012.10.02.mp3

He also mentions Gordon Duff. I see Duff as the new Bill Cooper - he has integrity, knows stuff, but is being fed 'inside info' ie disinfo. What do you guys think of his take on cold fusion etc?

http://k006.kiwi6.com/hotlink/a2sa7i...2012.10.02.mp3

I also do not believe in 'free energy'. I think Aspden was led astray there. In fact all great researchers get nobbled. Laithwaite was on to something and then he is building a fantasy maglev rocket for NASA...

Gimme a break.

I don't think there is "free energy" either, its a concept designed to be ridiculed and dismissed. What we do have is a universe full of energy that we can learn to tap in to. This is the "free" aspect of it, but it has nothing to do with generating it out of nothingness as some clowns try to say it means when discrediting it.

Have you seen some of the patents Aspden filed? In his last book he pleaded for young people to take over his work and try to create some of his design since his days were numbered. I think he was 91 when he died.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Harold_Aspden

This is the last one he filed.

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publi...E&locale=en_EP

<p>CLAIMS</p>

<p>1. An electric power generating circuit comprising two capacitors, each having three electrodes formed by three metal cylinders having concentric axes, the capacitors being interconnected by an inductor and a series-connected load circuit, d.c. voltage excitation means connected to a parallel combination of the two capacitors, whereby to apply between the outer and innermost electrodes of each capacitor a d.c. bias voltage which primes them with electric charge, and power output terminals, one at each point of connection as between the central electrode of the capacitors and the associated inductor and series-connected load circuit, whereby to provide for an a.c. power output owing to oscillations of electric charge as between the two capacitors.</p>

<p>2. An electric power generating circuit comprising two capacitors, each having three electrodes formed by three metal cylinders having concentric axes, the capacitors being interconnected by an inductor and a series-connected load circuit which includes a third capacitor, d.c. voltage excitation means connected to a series combination of the two capacitors, the innermost electrode of one capacitor being connected to the outermost electrode of the other capacitor, whereby to apply between the outer and innermost electrodes of each capacitor a d.c. bias voltage which primes them with electric charge, and power output terminals, one at each point of connection as between the central electrode of the each capacitor and the associated inductor and series-connected load circuit, whereby to provide for an a.c. power output owing to oscillations of electric charge as between the two capacitors, the third capacitor having a relatively very-high capacitance so as to permit easy flow of a.c. current whilst blocking d.c. current.</p>

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/espac...C=A&popup=true

[believenothing]

I don't think Gordon Duff is being fed disinfo, I think Gordon Duff is disinfo himself. Duff lets Jim Fetzer and other troublemakers contribute to VT. He posted a terrible and obviously fake video of a computer generated missile hitting the Pentagon as breaking news once.

Some of his information is pretty spot on and well-written/researched. That's the thing about successful disinfo. If they lied all the time, nobody would believe them. So they have to tell the truth sometimes. I used to comment on VT and left in disgust because Duff (or somebody logged in as Duff) will use personal attacks and psychopathic rhetorical tricks occasionally when people legitimately disagree and provide evidence. Same with Fetzer anywhere on the internet. Wherever Fetzer writes, you'll find an army of sock puppet cheerleaders pretending to agree with him. Fetzer gets mad when you mention his military career or his gay son. Nobody takes him seriously except for Duff

I think Cooper was the real deal and somebody who was fed disinfo. He actually admit to that later on.

[kaito]

Originally Posted by believenothing

Thanks, zephirop.

The feeling's mutual without sounding too much gay. Don't want to give bikerdruid the wrong idea

.....lol!......

Seriously what is VT?

[rodin]

Originally Posted by believenothing

I don't think Gordon Duff is being fed disinfo, I think Gordon Duff is disinfo himself. Duff lets Jim Fetzer and other troublemakers contribute to VT. He posted a terrible and obviously fake video of a computer generated missile hitting the Pentagon as breaking news once.

Some of his information is pretty spot on and well-written/researched. That's the thing about successful disinfo. If they lied all the time, nobody would believe them. So they have to tell the truth sometimes. I used to comment on VT and left in disgust because Duff (or somebody logged in as Duff) will use personal attacks and psychopathic rhetorical tricks occasionally when people legitimately disagree and provide evidence. Same with Fetzer anywhere on the internet. Wherever Fetzer writes, you'll find an army of sock puppet cheerleaders pretending to agree with him. Fetzer gets mad when you mention his military career or his gay son. Nobody takes him seriously except for Duff

I think Cooper was the real deal and somebody who was fed disinfo. He actually admit to that later on.

I had reached no conclusions about Duff but I didn't know he was a Fetcherite. Then again, Spingola who I like gives credence to Judy Woods.

It just goes to show what I say - trust no-one for they may be lying - or simply wrong.

[believenothing]

Originally Posted by rodin

I had reached no conclusions about Duff but I didn't know he was a Fetcherite. Then again, Spingola who I like gives credence to Judy Woods.

It just goes to show what I say - trust no-one for they may be lying - or simply wrong.

Duff's a good writer and I used to like him. I just can't imagine an intelligent person like that associating with Fetzer:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/fetzer/

Fetzer has lost all credibility among even the useful idiots. In addition to harassing in the comments section, this is what did it in for me:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/08...ntagon-leaked/

I could be wrong, but I thought I remember there being a lot more comments pointing out the ridiculousness of the video. If Duff is intelligent as he seems, he wouldn't have posted that video. He should know better. Somebody told me they thought VT had been compromised leading up to the 10-year-anniversary of 9/11. Not sure if I believe that, but it wouldn't surprise me either.

I can agree to disagree with anybody. When speculation is involved, people can be wrong. The people who religiously defend alternate theories without evidence and are incapable of agreeing to disagree have fallen victim to that thing called belief. They could also be disinfo like Fetzer. So I definitely agree with your advice about trusting nobody. They could be wrong or lying. I think Duff is lying, but I could be wrong.

I think the reason people fall for Judy Wood's directed energy theory is because she presents are evidence in a convincing manner. There is also that video of at least one large piece of steel disintegrating despite nothing touching it. Whatever caused it, I'm convinced Judy Wood is part of the distraction and disinformation campaign. Steven Jones leaving and attacking her then Fetzer defending her while she accuses Jones of murdering Eugene Mallove is all part of a ruse to cover up something else. What that something else is, I don't know. But I do know the nationality of those guys driving around in vans full of explosives and blaming Palestinians which nobody likes to talk about.

Steven Jones' earlier involvement with discrediting cold fusion then coming up with the thermite stuff (along with playing a part in the above ruse) makes me think they are protecting something a hell of a lot bigger than 9/11. I think the biggest secret isn't about brotherhoods controlling humanity. The biggest secret is the one they will kill you for trying to expose.

Originally Posted by kaito

Seriously what is VT?

VT is Veteran's Today. Gordon Duff is the senior editor there. There are some good articles written by good people there. Some of them have left over the years like when Fetzer became a columnist and when Duff started writing about UFOs.

[rodin]

I think a death list is overdue of people - dots waiting to be joined.... behind a science/aether conspiracy...

Fancy a thread to collate such information?

There were the rash of deaths at Marconi for a start...

[believenothing]

Originally Posted by rodin

I think a death list is overdue of people - dots waiting to be joined.... behind a science/aether conspiracy...

Fancy a thread to collate such information?

There were the rash of deaths at Marconi for a start...

That's a good idea. Science/aether in general? Science/defense? A bunch of Minot AFB airmen 'coincidentally' died in connection with the missing nukes. Makes me wonder why people like Mordechai Vanunu weren't 'taken care of'

[rodin]

Originally Posted by believenothing

That's a good idea. Science/aether in general? Science/defense? A bunch of Minot AFB airmen 'coincidentally' died in connection with the missing nukes. Makes me wonder why people like Mordechai Vanunu weren't 'taken care of'

Go on then kick one off. I bet you have 10 times more free time than me @ the moment

[sniper13x]

Originally Posted by believenothing

I don't think Gordon Duff is being fed disinfo, I think Gordon Duff is disinfo himself. Duff lets Jim Fetzer and other troublemakers contribute to VT. He posted a terrible and obviously fake video of a computer generated missile hitting the Pentagon as breaking news once.

Some of his information is pretty spot on and well-written/researched. That's the thing about successful disinfo. If they lied all the time, nobody would believe them. So they have to tell the truth sometimes. I used to comment on VT and left in disgust because Duff (or somebody logged in as Duff) will use personal attacks and psychopathic rhetorical tricks occasionally when people legitimately disagree and provide evidence. Same with Fetzer anywhere on the internet. Wherever Fetzer writes, you'll find an army of sock puppet cheerleaders pretending to agree with him. Fetzer gets mad when you mention his military career or his gay son. Nobody takes him seriously except for Duff

I think Cooper was the real deal and somebody who was fed disinfo. He actually admit to that later on.

Of course Duff is controlled op, he just exists on the left side of the "conspiracy movement" since the majority of "conspiracy researchers" are right wing leaning.

There seems to be one article a week defending Obama like he's a prince among wolves who take advantage of his good nature. Its pretty funny and pathetic, and the comments are even more ridiculous. I once pointed out that Soros and all the jewish banks funded Obama, which lead to several comments adding to my obvious point of him being just another puppet, and it got removed. That was the last time I visited that shit trap.

[sniper13x]

Originally Posted by believenothing

Duff's a good writer and I used to like him. I just can't imagine an intelligent person like that associating with Fetzer:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/fetzer/

Fetzer has lost all credibility among even the useful idiots. In addition to harassing in the comments section, this is what did it in for me:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/08...ntagon-leaked/

I could be wrong, but I thought I remember there being a lot more comments pointing out the ridiculousness of the video. If Duff is intelligent as he seems, he wouldn't have posted that video. He should know better. Somebody told me they thought VT had been compromised leading up to the 10-year-anniversary of 9/11. Not sure if I believe that, but it wouldn't surprise me either.

I can agree to disagree with anybody. When speculation is involved, people can be wrong. The people who religiously defend alternate theories without evidence and are incapable of agreeing to disagree have fallen victim to that thing called belief. They could also be disinfo like Fetzer. So I definitely agree with your advice about trusting nobody. They could be wrong or lying. I think Duff is lying, but I could be wrong.

I think the reason people fall for Judy Wood's directed energy theory is because she presents are evidence in a convincing manner. There is also that video of at least one large piece of steel disintegrating despite nothing touching it. Whatever caused it, I'm convinced Judy Wood is part of the distraction and disinformation campaign. Steven Jones leaving and attacking her then Fetzer defending her while she accuses Jones of murdering Eugene Mallove is all part of a ruse to cover up something else. What that something else is, I don't know. But I do know the nationality of those guys driving around in vans full of explosives and blaming Palestinians which nobody likes to talk about.

Steven Jones' earlier involvement with discrediting cold fusion then coming up with the thermite stuff (along with playing a part in the above ruse) makes me think they are protecting something a hell of a lot bigger than 9/11. I think the biggest secret isn't about brotherhoods controlling humanity. The biggest secret is the one they will kill you for trying to expose.



VT is Veteran's Today. Gordon Duff is the senior editor there. There are some good articles written by good people there. Some of them have left over the years like when Fetzer became a columnist and when Duff started writing about UFOs.

Ever read my post on Paul M. Brown being car-crashed for his patents on accelerating radioactive decay with EM (paraphrasing of course).

[rodin]

Originally Posted by sniper13x

Ever read my post on Paul M. Brown being car-crashed for his patents on accelerating radioactive decay with EM (paraphrasing of course).

That's the guy I was trying to remember. Thanks

Quite a story

A month before Brown’s death, the company announced an expansion into the decontamination of radioactive wastewater, using exclusive technology obtained from the Institute of Industrial Mathematics in Israel....

Regardless, plenty of people are convinced Brown was onto something important, and always has been. But important enough to pipe-bomb his mother’s home? To have him arrested for making drugs?Even to sabotage his beloved Mazda?Conspiracy theorists, the line forms to the left. Don’t forget Brown’s company ties to Israel, his probable testimony in the Elgindy stock manipulation case, on top of Brown’s suggestion that he may have, in part, solved not only the nuclear waste problem, but lessened our dependence on conventional energy sources.

Read more: http://www.autoweek.com/article/2002...#ixzz28JlOiaxU

Read more: http://www.autoweek.com/article/2002...#ixzz28JkpzZOb

Pipe bombing is JDL speciality - they did it to Edgar Steele's wife too

During its most active period, the JDL planted pipe bombs and committed arson. It also engaged in headline-grabbing acts such as throwing eggs and blood at Soviet officials in protest of the treatment of Soviet Jews.

After JDL member Baruch Goldstein shot and killed 29 Muslim worshippers in a Hebron mosque and wounded 125, the group refused to repudiate his actions.

"We feel that Goldstein took a preventative measure

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=91...1#.UG1Lvph9LQw

[rodin]

Originally Posted by sniper13x

Ever read my post on Paul M. Brown being car-crashed for his patents on accelerating radioactive decay with EM (paraphrasing of course).

The Nucell battery was IMO a very elegant device. The tech is very feasible, proven, and commercially viable. That it has not been exploited = blocking b y interested party. NOT like 'free energy' devices at all.

Brown still used the idea of photon (quanitized EM packet), when describing nuclear waste management

http://www.rexresearch.com/nucell/nucell.htm

[rodin]

Originally Posted by bikerdruid

if you are claiming that this has been proven in this thread, you are mistaken.
rodin has stuck his foot in his mouth several times.
he believes that nukes are a hoax, except on 911.

You provoke me to dig deeper

...he later resume his research and start lecturing again, this time on tritium batteries. When I saw Paul at a 1997 conference in Colorado, he was approached by a couple of businessmen who alerted him to the brand new Bell Labs-Lucent Technologies patent #5,642,014 (June 24, 1997). Called a "Self-Powered Device," the Bell inventors had brazenly referenced Paul’s public lecture on the tritium battery concept, which they proceeded to patent. What was also unusual about the application was that it was designed solely for a watch battery that would last 25 years. Instead of going for more powerful designs

http://users.erols.com/iri/Pauleulogy.htm

elevated tritium levels @ WTC

[sniper13x]

Originally Posted by rodin

You provoke me to dig deeper

http://users.erols.com/iri/Pauleulogy.htm

elevated tritium levels @ WTC

I think you might need to concede your photon position since even the alternative crowd subscribe to it. I do think you are right in one sense though, they tend to associate many things with being a photon that perhaps is something else.

Lets get a little nutty here. What if this "photon" is really the consciousness that keeps our fairy tale reality going? What if photons are just conscious particles of energy at a frequency that we only detect as photons with our limited instrumentation?

[believenothing]

Originally Posted by sniper13x

Ever read my post on Paul M. Brown being car-crashed for his patents on accelerating radioactive decay with EM (paraphrasing of course).

Ahh yeah. That guy. Resonant nuclear battery. Apparently the 'spent fuel' they bury and what not is not even close to being wasted. Which is probably related. That and decay are a subject I'm scientifically ignorant about so I can't say much about it.

Originally Posted by rodin

That's the guy I was trying to remember. Thanks

Quite a story



Read more: http://www.autoweek.com/article/2002...#ixzz28JkpzZOb

Pipe bombing is JDL speciality - they did it to Edgar Steele's wife too



http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=91...1#.UG1Lvph9LQw

I read how in the 70s or so, the JDL put a hit on the "American Nazi Party" but there were no takers. I also read that the American Nazi Party was started by Jews. Makes me wonder if the JDL thing was a joke in this case since they're serious about everything else. Including making David Cole disappear.

I saw a video once that claimed JDL was just another branch of B'nai B'rith like ADL is, just one they don't talk about. The FBI considers them a terrorist organization for the US. Canada does not. I hear that they're well established in Toronto, Zionist headquarters of the Americas.

Pipe bombing reminds me of that olympics pipe bomb. The guy they arrested, Eric Rudolph, is allegedly a Christian fanatic who is openly anti-Jew. Hmmm... maybe it's nothing. Nevermind.

[georgesmiley]

Kaito wrote

.....lol!......

Seriously what is VT?

veterans today

http://www.veteranstoday.com/

they do news and comment etc

[rodin]

Originally Posted by sniper13x

I think you might need to concede your photon position since even the alternative crowd subscribe to it. ....

That's not a reason to concede. The alternative crowd believe in the Holocaust, so they are hardly paragons of the scientific method.

I will stick with the aether/no photon position for now. I refuse to believe in a massless particle.

All the alternative researchers look for mistakes in current thinking. What needs to be done is to revisit science with the knowledge of massive hoaxes, deceptions, and who is behind it, and see how the evidence stacks up then.

Ancel Gray has PROVED the photoelectric effect is a nonsense, that and the 'single photon double slit' nonsense supported the particle side of the schizoid duality syndrome. Like I say - lets see a single photon (or electron) data accumulation in real time. I bet we get the 'popcorn' effect. If so, how come previous researchers never noticed this? Deliberate deception is the only answer.

[rodin]

Good page on the nuke hoax from letsroll

they used eye goggles but did not pass out any ear equipment to protect peoples ears from the loud sound of the explosion.

http://letsrollforums.com/do-nuclear...t28427p2.html?

[thirdwave]

Originally Posted by rodin

There is a fundamental connection between electric and nuclear that goes beyond standard model science. eg em radiation speeds up nuclear decay - not taught in textbooks of course..

So called photons are claimed to be able to displace electrons (despite having only a tiny fraction of the 'momentum' of the emerging electron). But even phantasy physiks does not claim photons can displace nucleons.

Yet

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222978

I see you are still churning out the same old bollocks! lol

This thread has been going for ages and there is still no speck of tangible evidence to suggest you are only where close to having a case, other than hating Jews and wanting to create as many anti Jew conspiracies as possible.. lol