Nuclear bombs are a hoax - Page 5

the apprentice · 16-01-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by zegzy

I will have to sit on the fence in regards to whether nuclear bombs are a hoax or not. I do however ask the question (not to you, to the universe)...why so many when so few are required ?

They are by-products of an era and the fuel of the future in store.

blackyblue · 16-01-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rodin

Shadow depth on the stem of the mushroom, mushroom shape is pretty much radially symmetrical.

They lied about the event. Photo from Wikipedia = mainstream acceptance.

No sorry, Nagasaki and Hiroshima was a household fact long before that picture went into Wikipedia. I am sure on the scale of things a very very small percentage of people have even been on Wiki and saw that photo.

Sorry Rodin, you have became so open minded to the fact that Governments conspire against us and are so fully awake to the fact that you have become so difficult for the government to fool you have became blinkered and closed minded and you are now fast asleep and snoring your head off to the fact not everything is a lie and you are now an easy target for revolutionists as you will believe anything any truther or revolutionist says...

Wake up

zen_anarchy · 16-01-2012, 05:02 PM

The whole nukes don't exist thing ,I'm not sure where i stand on this but I do think that there is a lot of interesting things to look into as to whether they exist.

Interesting video about nukes

Nuclear Weapons do not Exist - YouTube

I personally am not a nuclear scientist and so can not state that they do exist ,but i will add that i would not out of hand dismiss this just because it is scientific heresy,we have been lied to about many things and are taught to go on the attack when someone or an idea goes against the modern scientific dogma. Al Qeada don't exist then why should Nukes.

so I will keep an open mind about nukes not existing.

blackyblue · 16-01-2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by zen_anarchy

The whole nukes don't exist thing ,i'm not sure where i stand on this but I do think that there is a lot of intresting things to look into as to wether they exist.

Intresting video about nukes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8D1r...ure=plpp_video

I personally am not a nuclear scientist and so can not state that they do exist ,but i will add that i would not out of hand dismiss this just because it is scientific herresy,we have been lied to about many things and are taught to go on the attack when someone or an idea goes against the modern scientific dogma. Al Qeada don't exist then why should Nukes.

so I will keep an open mind abot nukes not existing

as for being a jewish plot ,I will say that it wold require more than just the jewish people to pull off a lie this big.

I put no nukers into the same catagory as no planers!

I mean this is 2012, we are all convinced that our government have technologies well advanced from what the masses are aware and some even believe we are so technologically advanced that we are recieving technologies from Aliens and possibly even in communications with them, and some of the technologies nowadays is simply mind boggling, however those same people then when it suits them turn around and say that certain technologies are a hoax and that our governments are not this far advanced, for me this is just showing ones self up to be slightly hypocritical and will support any argument whether right or wrong as long as it is daamaging to the government and personally i am not a part of this behaviour, i am not anti-government, just pro-truth, and no nukes is a lie....I can well imagine that we are technologically advanced enough to have nukes, i think they have other more powerful weapons in their lockers that they are keeping secret about called the death ray!

rhydra · 16-01-2012, 05:35 PM

I had a bit of an idead a few years ago that nuclear bombs may be the emporer's new clothes thet they probably work in contriolled circumtances and in weak reacions such as Nagasaki etc. In general though, I think they are probably less hit than miss. The fear of them is greater than the actual thing, that is why well, the US made them using 30s technology. If that is so, most countries would have the capability now, even small dictatorships with the GDP of a corner-shop, why don't they have them? Because the truth is that they don't work, that is the main driving force behind the non proliforation treaty, not to stop countries from possessing them but from blowing the whistle that would neutralise the fear factor of coutries like the US, Russia, Israel, Pakistan, people who are supposed to have them.

That is probably why Pakistan is still having billions from the US and UK even though they support the Taliban, if they told the world that the nuclear stocks were nothing more than fireworks where would that leave the US militarily?

blackyblue · 16-01-2012, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rhydra

I had a bit of an idead a few years ago that nuclear bombs may be the emporer's new clothes thet they probably work in contriolled circumtances and in weak reacions such as Nagasaki etc. In general though, I think they are probably less hit than miss. The fear of them is greater than the actual thing, that is why well, the US made them using 30s technology. If that is so, most countries would have the capability now, even small dictatorships with the GDP of a corner-shop, why don't they have them? Because the truth is that they don't work, that is the main driving force behind the non proliforation treaty, not to stop countries from possessing them but from blowing the whistle that would neutralise the fear factor of coutries like the US, Russia, Israel, Pakistan, people who are supposed to have them.

That is probably why Pakistan is still having billions from the US and UK even though they support the Taliban, if they told the world that the nuclear stocks were nothing more than fireworks where would that leave the US militarily?

Far too complicated!

So at the sametime that the small countries are lying about building nuclear weapons and the bigger countries that know they are lying then go out to convince the world that they are building nuclear weapons and but will sort it out, then the small countries get bombed and bombarded yet through out all this stuff they all manage to keep a seal of silence that nobody has nuclear weapons and dont tell anyone that the reason they are being sanctioned and bombed is simply because the bigger countries are not wanting them to join in on the lie???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

unsyatisfied · 16-01-2012, 10:35 PM

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080594/

blackyblue · 17-01-2012, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by rodin

For sure no planes at Shanksville or the Pentagon. So why not the towers? Not many 'witnesses' actually saw the planes, did they?

Ah, that answers my previous question!!

I believe there where people that did not see them, but there was also plenty people did....Would it not be more concievable that the people did not see them where not looking in the correct location? i mean if you dont see something you dont see it, does not mean it did not happen...Also, how do you know those witnesses where credible? they could have been lying?

Afterall there is a few people on this thread that you shrugged off telling them that witness accounts are not credible as people can be mistaken or lie, yet here you are stating a fact based on eyewitness account

rodin · 17-01-2012, 12:31 AM

The only semi credible rebuttal of nuke bomb hoax I have found is Starfish Prime. That I CAN'T explain... unless.... large firework using aluminium/magnesium etc.....

rodin · 17-01-2012, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by blackyblue

Ah, that answers my previous question!!

I believe there where people that did not see them, but there was also plenty people did....Would it not be more concievable that the people did not see them where not looking in the correct location? i mean if you dont see something you dont see it, does not mean it did not happen...Also, how do you know those witnesses where credible? they could have been lying?

Afterall there is a few people on this thread that you shrugged off telling them that witness accounts are not credible as people can be mistaken or lie, yet here you are stating a fact based on eyewitness account

So many liars. So many lies. George 'Solomon' Bush...

Bush Caught Lying About September 11th - YouTube

blackyblue · 17-01-2012, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rodin

So many liars. So many lies. George 'Solomon' Bush...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm73wOuPL60

This i cant deny.

rhydra · 17-01-2012, 12:39 AM

When a country which isn't in the "nuclear club" announces that they are fully fledged members they tend to be in the know about the truth of the weapons, the White House will get the message the technology is probably usable, but only in the right laboratory conditions and it most certainly isn't transportable.

Perhaps that's what happened to Saddam in the end, he did try to start a nuclear programme, it was bombed, probably before he got to the state where it would be discovered that it was a falsehood. Pakistan has more than likely got to that stage, Iran, maybe that's why the world police have decided that they aren't going to get any further.

rodin · 17-01-2012, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rhydra

When a country which isn't in the "nuclear club" announces that they are fully fledged members they tend to be in the know about the truth of the weapons, the White House will get the message the technology is probably usable, but only in the right laboratory conditions and it most certainly isn't transportable.

Perhaps that's what happened to Saddam in the end, he did try to start a nuclear programme, it was bombed, probably before he got to the state where it would be discovered that it was a falsehood. Pakistan has more than likely got to that stage, Iran, maybe that's why the world police have decided that they aren't going to get any further.

Even Ahmadinejad is Jewish. And some still give Gates a pass...

apollo_gnomon · 17-01-2012, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rodin

Even Ahmadinejad is Jewish.

Seriously? Are you insane? Even for you this is daft.

rodin · 17-01-2012, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by apollo_gnomon

Seriously? Are you insane? Even for you this is daft.

learn grasshopper

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...wish-past.html

Iran Contra - remember?

apollo_gnomon · 17-01-2012, 01:31 AM

I counter your link with another link.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...-jewish-family

What about Iran Conra? What does Reagan's underhanded sleazy geopolitics have to do with ahmadinejad having or not having "Jewish Roots" (a far, far cry from "being" Jewish, unless you interpret the universe through a lens of racism).

the apprentice · 17-01-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by apollo_gnomon

Seriously? Are you insane? Even for you this is daft.

Maybe not as silly as it may seem, the world DNA profile could answer all those sorts of questions.

One thing we must remember is there has been many great ruling empires throughout history which have all been broken up due to one reason or another, those genetics are now probably all found and the deals of a life time have already been finalised with certain internal relations in the top houses.

You see every now and again new blood is needed to keep the rivers running clearly.

History will be written time and again and it's normally those who get the control who have the final say of how it is written.

What ever the story turns out to be the genes will remain.

illuminumnuts · 18-01-2012, 02:16 AM

Rodin, please, please, please stop loosely using the term 'Jews'. Can't you make do with 'Jewish mob' or 'Zionists'? It does make a difference. Thank you in hope.

blackyblue · 18-01-2012, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by illuminumnuts

Rodin, please, please, please stop loosely using the term 'Jews'. Can't you make do with 'Jewish mob' or 'Zionists'? It does make a difference. Thank you in hope.

Jewish people are just humans like the rest of us and deserve respect like everyone else

illuminumnuts · 18-01-2012, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by blackyblue

Jewish people are just humans like the rest of us and deserve respect like everyone else

No one deserves respect without merit. It's just that Rodin, through lax writing I believe and nothing more, is mindlessly disrespecting all 'Jews' in his posts. I know there is truth in some of the things he says and he is only handing out free ammo to his critics. I don't think he is a hateful person and I don't reckon he thinks every 'Jew' is 'in on it'.

I hope he takes the criticism on board.

16-01-2012, 05:35 PM	#85
rhydra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wales Posts: 8,469	I had a bit of an idead a few years ago that nuclear bombs may be the emporer's new clothes thet they probably work in contriolled circumtances and in weak reacions such as Nagasaki etc. In general though, I think they are probably less hit than miss. The fear of them is greater than the actual thing, that is why well, the US made them using 30s technology. If that is so, most countries would have the capability now, even small dictatorships with the GDP of a corner-shop, why don't they have them? Because the truth is that they don't work, that is the main driving force behind the non proliforation treaty, not to stop countries from possessing them but from blowing the whistle that would neutralise the fear factor of coutries like the US, Russia, Israel, Pakistan, people who are supposed to have them. That is probably why Pakistan is still having billions from the US and UK even though they support the Taliban, if they told the world that the nuclear stocks were nothing more than fireworks where would that leave the US militarily? __________________ Man is a tool created by the Universe to mark time. Last edited by rhydra; 16-01-2012 at 05:36 PM.

16-01-2012, 10:35 PM	#87
unsyatisfied Inactive Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 817	The Day After Trinity http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080594/

17-01-2012, 12:39 AM	#92
rhydra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wales Posts: 8,469	When a country which isn't in the "nuclear club" announces that they are fully fledged members they tend to be in the know about the truth of the weapons, the White House will get the message the technology is probably usable, but only in the right laboratory conditions and it most certainly isn't transportable. Perhaps that's what happened to Saddam in the end, he did try to start a nuclear programme, it was bombed, probably before he got to the state where it would be discovered that it was a falsehood. Pakistan has more than likely got to that stage, Iran, maybe that's why the world police have decided that they aren't going to get any further. __________________ Man is a tool created by the Universe to mark time.

18-01-2012, 02:16 AM	#98
illuminumnuts Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,108	Rodin, please, please, please stop loosely using the term 'Jews'. Can't you make do with 'Jewish mob' or 'Zionists'? It does make a difference. Thank you in hope. __________________ I still love the masons! Be proactive; believe in change and everyone; trust no one. I am a glorifed sheepon so don't mess. Thus spoke numnuts... Exposing moronic shills and trolls since 2006. With a critical mass of conscious, good-hearted people I care not who makes the laws or prints the money. WE WILL NEVER GET THE WHOLE TRUTH ABOUT THE SAVILE CASE FROM THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA AND POLICE.

17-01-2012, 12:31 AM	#89
rodin Temporarily suspended Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: location location Posts: 17,088	The only semi credible rebuttal of nuke bomb hoax I have found is Starfish Prime. That I CAN'T explain... unless.... large firework using aluminium/magnesium etc.....

17-01-2012, 01:31 AM	#96
apollo_gnomon Banned Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 6,396	I counter your link with another link. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...-jewish-family What about Iran Conra? What does Reagan's underhanded sleazy geopolitics have to do with ahmadinejad having or not having "Jewish Roots" (a far, far cry from "being" Jewish, unless you interpret the universe through a lens of racism).