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Old 15-01-2012, 09:33 PM   #21
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Women liberation be one of them tricks!

Women don't get liberated from man - they get enslaved to The MAN
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Old 15-01-2012, 09:35 PM   #22
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Ithikar I think you should also define partners, what obligations does this union place on the women in that "partnership", are you aware that women (and men for that matter) are coerced into partnership by their fathers, and in some cases in the name of the religion of Islam, men have killed their daughters for daring to choose a "non-acceptable" partner, or for daring to explore her own body with another human being?

You are basically saying step out of that prison and into this one, there is a comfier pillow here in Islam.

Allow women the freedom to explore and choose for self rather than endlessly constructing control systems to dictate the parameters of her development.
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Old 15-01-2012, 09:50 PM   #23
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In Islam Polygamy is only allowed for men and not women. Only the rich men can afford to have many wives - poor young Akbar may never marry even one woman due to poverty. Although the latter aspect is universal to man kind.

Prostitutes are only allowed for men. I know for fact they use a different word for prostitution in Islam it's called a temporary contract were a man pays a woman to have sex with him. The contract can last from anything from a few hours to months. Pure semantics for the same act
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Old 15-01-2012, 10:14 PM   #24
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UNICEF photo of the year shows, a bridegroom, 40, with his 11-year-old bride in Afghanistan. The bridegroom is going to take care of her and their future children. UNICEF photo of the year must show that the teenage pregnancies and abortion, drug addiction, binge drinking and anti-social behavior is on the rise in Britain. All of them are burden on British tax-payers. This is sickening. It's no wonder Great Britain is in such a bad shape. Ten years old British girls are haveing babies out of wedlock. They are not allowed to get married but are allowed to have babies. Teenage pregnancy rate in Great Britain is the highest in Western Europe. It is a civilised country and Yemen is a backward country because it allows young girls to get married.
Can't you see the contradiction? Child brides and girls giving birth at a young age happens on a far larger scale in Islamic culture. You realise how rare it is for a 10 year old to give birth in the UK? One or two cases? how many...

Teenage pregnancies is not abnormal. People got married age 12/13/14 in the UK not so long ago. Many abortions are due to poverty, and social stigma (for various reasons such as young age) whereas in most countries it is considered perfectly normal to have children whilst young. Besides how many of these teen pregnancies are aged between 16 and 19.. Shouldn't there be more support/housing etc for the indigenous mothers/fathers. Immigrants often get priority.

Some parents are so poverty stricken that they advise their poverty stricken daughters and lovers to have abortions.
It costs us more to house , feed and all the other services that Muslim and other immigrants who come here and do not work or (pay into the system) they have a habit of bringing their extended families with them. Polygamy is only legal for Muslims and no on else in the UK.
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Old 16-01-2012, 02:03 AM   #25
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The Holy Quran gives more rights to women than the so called western civilisation.
Western Secularism cannot teach Muslims how to treat women. Islam teaches us how to be civilised. Islam is a middle path. Women are even abused in the UK Parliament, which is called the Mother of Parliament. It is not just verbal abuse the female MPs have had to deal with. The tradition of killing women for family honour is a “curse”. Violence against women is a global phenomenon. An Australian Judge failed to jail nine males who admitted gang-raping a 10-year old Aboriginal girl, by saying the victim probably agreed to have sex with them. More than half the babies born to British mothers this year will be outside marriage for the first time since records begins. There is a steady decline in marriage among British couples. Nearly all births to Pakistani mothers are within wedlock.
The following reply does not include all Muslims in the UK but a significant number ok?

Arranged marriages and inbreeding of cousins etc of Pakistanis in particular in the UK is causing birth defects and the children's hospital wards have a fair number in some Northern Towns. - if a girl refused to go ahead with an arranged marriage she dishonours the family, if she wants to marry or date outside the faith - an English man etc the same rule applies (dishonour) and the man maybe beaten, and discouraged from any relationship with Muslim girls, how is that free will for the girls? They are kept on a leash made of fear (metaphorically).

If a Muslim lad wants to marry a none Muslim then she has to convert (and this depends if the family will accept her as marriage material) some Muslim lads like to fuck English kaffir girls but when it comes to getting married they often go along with the arranged marriage to some girl from Pakistan then dump the English etc girls.

Add the problem with Muslim gangs pimping English girls (often forced and coerced with threats) yet another recent case here near me in Liverpool a large gang up in court.

Isn't it taught in Islam that kaffir women are thee for sex and not marriage unless they convert?

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Old 16-01-2012, 02:57 PM   #26
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Women liberation be one of them tricks!

Women don't get liberated from man - they get enslaved to The MAN
Well said!
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Old 16-01-2012, 03:11 PM   #27
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Iffy just loves to come in and support islam schools, he been doing that for years on heaps of forums. He wont reply to any of ya. Look at his posts, almost always all the same. He does this everywhere and everyone gets sucked in.

I think he does this forum every few months... he is getting boring... he wants more islam schools in london, etc... same old same old. how can people not see this? He does it to all forums and never replies .
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Old 16-01-2012, 03:21 PM   #29
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Funny though how every muslim country i have been there are loads of fit young western women happily married to muslims...

In fact i know a several women who have chosen to be muslims who still live in the west..

Great to see a thread that isnt implying all muslims follow the alcaida/Saudi version of islam which is peddaled as truth here..
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Old 16-01-2012, 03:25 PM   #30
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Contrary to popular mainstream belief, laws, rules, and regulations do not GIVE freedom, it takes freedom away.
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Old 16-01-2012, 05:25 PM   #31
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Islam is a male religion based on a dominator society structure.

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Islam tells a woman to cover up so that she is not abused
Contemporary western thought is that women should not be abused, whatever they are wearing, full stop.
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Old 16-01-2012, 05:32 PM   #32
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Please explain OP

Female genital mutalisation especially for very small children! These are not allowed the choice!


Unmarried women unable to enter paradise (heaven)


Females having to cover their heads, necks, hair and arms when males don't - where is the equality there!


I await your reply!



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