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Old 25-12-2011, 10:08 AM   #1
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Arrow Are You Prepared For $250 A Barrel Of Oil?

I know some of you on DI forum are prepared and that a lot of you in denial are not.

Iran Begins Naval Drill In Strait Of Hormuz - You Prepared For $250 A Barrel Of Oil? - 25/12/2011

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Old 25-12-2011, 10:30 AM   #2
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Gulf Ministers Float Talks on Countering a Blockade
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CAIRO—Persian Gulf oil ministers are floating the idea of discussing on Sunday alternative oil routes available for mitigating the impact of any blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, senior Gulf oil officials said on Saturday.




plus i dont think they can block it for that long because it would be a top priority to remove any type of blockade

the best scenario they can hope for is to slow it all down
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Old 25-12-2011, 10:31 AM   #3
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Iran holds military naval drills around key shipping Strait of Hormuz, Gulf of Oman, Gulf of Aden



Iran plans to launch 10 days of naval drills from Saturday around the Strait of Hormuz. Iran says the aim of the drills is to demonstrate the country's military strength and defence ability.

Iran has billed the drill as "Velayat-90" and plans to cover an area as large as 2,000 square kilometres - the largest scale of such an exercise to date for the nation.

Admiral Habibollah Sayari, Navy Commander, said, "Our naval drill will begin from December 24 and last 10 days - covering the east of the Strait of Hormuz and the Gulf of Oman to the Gulf of Aden."
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Iranians are not stupid. For as long as it's only up to them, nothing is going to happen.

They will not attack anyone. They are waiting to be attacked by the United States of IsraHell and then all hell will break loose as they will have to defend themselves.
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I know some of you on DI forum are prepared and that a lot of you in denial are not.
Both groups seem represented at the below thread. If anyone wants to join in it's a discussion about preparing for 2012.

Growing/storing food... that kinda thing...

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=194904
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Old 25-12-2011, 10:42 AM   #6
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Gulf Ministers Float Talks on Countering a Blockade
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...473723368.html

CAIRO—Persian Gulf oil ministers are floating the idea of discussing on Sunday alternative oil routes available for mitigating the impact of any blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, senior Gulf oil officials said on Saturday.




plus i dont think they can block it for that long because it would be a top priority to remove any type of blockade

the best scenario they can hope for is to slow it all down
I have to disagree. Iran are in a better strategic position than anyone in the region to shut or defend the area. they could totally destroy Bahrain if they wanted. that's where all the oil comes from and is owned by their enemy saudi Arabia.

Also Iran would stop supplying oil to the Europe. they are the 3rd largest exporters in the world with 10% of world oil reserves.

They have a mighty military with 70 million people in the country.

This war will be nothing like iraq and they couldn't even win that war. They also have China and Russia backing them.
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Both groups seem represented at the below thread. If anyone wants to join in it's a discussion about preparing for 2012.

Growing/storing food... that kinda thing...

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=194904
Thanks! There have been many great threads about survivalism on this forum!!
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Iranians are not stupid. For as long as it's only up to them, nothing is going to happen.

They will not attack anyone. They are waiting to be attacked by the United States of IsraHell and then all hell will break loose as they will have to defend themselves.
Yes, Iran wont attack first, no one said they would. But if the dog dont bite after poking it multiple times then the plan b false flag is already set.

An attack on US soil blamed on iran who they will say used mexican tunnels to get the bombs in to the US and they where brought trough Venezuela and or Cuba.

Ive seen it all building up over the years. and it looks like that's the card they are set to play.
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I have to disagree. Iran are in a better strategic position than anyone in the region to shut or defend the area. they could totally destroy Bahrain if they wanted. that's where all the oil comes from and is owned by their enemy saudi Arabia.

Also Iran would stop supplying oil to the Europe. they are the 3rd largest exporters in the world with 10% of world oil reserves.

They have a mighty military with 70 million people in the country.

This war will be nothing like iraq and they couldn't even win that war. They also have China and Russia backing them.

dont get me wrong i am not saying iran is some backward military power

i just dont think they can hold it for any length of time with ports been bombed

and 26 submarines wont do the job for long either

the question is not if they can blockade it or not the question is how long can they blockade it for i think a short time


EDIT: ofc if russia china enter the game then it becomes a totally different ball game

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I have to disagree. Iran are in a better strategic position than anyone in the region to shut or defend the area. they could totally destroy Bahrain if they wanted. that's where all the oil comes from and is owned by their enemy saudi Arabia.

Also Iran would stop supplying oil to the Europe. they are the 3rd largest exporters in the world with 10% of world oil reserves.

They have a mighty military with 70 million people in the country.

This war will be nothing like iraq and they couldn't even win that war. They also have China and Russia backing them.
The problem I have with this scenario is that NATO never attack anyone that

has a chance of winning or threatening their countries, so imo Iran wont be

attacked because it is too strong and it could unleash severe terrorist attacks

on any nato countries. This show boating by the various world powers

is a smoke screen to keep people from looking too hard at other

places/geopolitical events occurring in the world. I would say in the war for oil

that there are weaker targets that could be overthrown - one of those being

Saudi Arabia which would be cheaper to invade. That is what I would do -

shift a couple or three battalions into Saudi Arabia on the pretence of being a

peace keeping force then create a false flag there or support a coup using

your soldiers as back up, bing bong bang you own the largest oil producer in

opec, oil stays at $100 barrel (or, as I bet richard Branson hopes, the price

drops) and the U.S.A all get to keep driving to the mall,consuming big macs

from styrophone containers using baby seal eyes for head lights. Iran, Russia,

China, USA, U.K are all happy and not a drop of blood (well not from anyone

that they think counts anyway) is spilt. They did this same thing in Libya with very

effective results just this year only one year after Tony Blair was

photographed shaking Gadafi's hand.

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Old 25-12-2011, 12:12 PM   #11
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The problem I have with this scenario is that NATO never attack anyone that

has a chance of winning or threatening their countries, so imo Iran wont be

attacked because it is too strong and it could unleash severe terrorist attacks

on any nato countries. This show boating by the various world powers

is a smoke screen to keep people from looking too hard at other

places/geopolitical events occurring in the world. I would say in the war for oil

that there are weaker targets that could be overthrown - one of those being

Saudi Arabia which would be cheaper to invade. That is what I would do -

shift a couple or three battalions into Saudi Arabia on the pretence of being a

peace keeping force then create a false flag there or support a coup using

your soldiers as back up, bing bong bang you own the largest oil producer in

opec, oil stays at $100 barrel (or, as I bet richard Branson hopes, the price

drops) and the U.S.A all get to keep driving to the mall,consuming big macs

from styrophone containers using baby seal eyes for head lights. Iran, Russia,

China, USA, U.K are all happy and not a drop of blood (well not from anyone

that they think counts anyway) is spilt. They did this same thing in Libya with very

effective results just this year only one year after Tony Blair was

photographed shaking Gadafi's hand.
All you need to understand is that the elite want ww3 and that doesn't mean they want the west to win. on the contrary. they want the Rothschild country of China to win this one IMO.
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I have to disagree. Iran are in a better strategic position than anyone in the region to shut or defend the area. they could totally destroy Bahrain if they wanted. that's where all the oil comes from and is owned by their enemy saudi Arabia.

Also Iran would stop supplying oil to the Europe. they are the 3rd largest exporters in the world with 10% of world oil reserves.

They have a mighty military with 70 million people in the country.

This war will be nothing like iraq and they couldn't even win that war. They also have China and Russia backing them.
which by proxy means access to the miltary technology of those countires which is not to be sniffed at...
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dont get me wrong i am not saying iran is some backward military power

i just dont think they can hold it for any length of time with ports been bombed

and 26 submarines wont do the job for long either

the question is not if they can blockade it or not the question is how long can they blockade it for i think a short time


EDIT: ofc if russia china enter the game then it becomes a totally different ball game
The Strait will be closed with EM-52 Rocket mines and anti-ship cruise missiles. The mere threat of these, in combination with the contamination of the Gulf from a bombed Bushehr, will cause tanker insurance companies to halt shipping.
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If the elite never owned Russia last revolution and they don't today and it never stopped them getting the funding to the october model, what makes it not possible this time.
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The Strait will be closed with EM-52 Rocket mines and anti-ship cruise missiles. The mere threat of these, in combination with the contamination of the Gulf from a bombed Bushehr, will cause tanker insurance companies to halt shipping.
again i never said they could not close it the real question is how long they can close it for
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No I'm not prepared to pay $250, nor do I intend to. And I hope enough folks will wake up in time to realize that we have choice:

There are enough alternatives to oil available today. First and foremost there is hemp. We can process its oil and fibre very efficiently. Don't wonder why it is forbidden.
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again i never said they could not close it the real question is how long they can close it for

With about zero flex in the 8000 mile just in time delivery system , the shutdown would be a crisis in a matter of hours. Workers would be savaged to the bone being fired and having no savings as drastic cost cutting measures were enacted. In some places if people stocked up the supply chain could never catch up even if oil went right back down to 100 a barrel in a 2 weeks maybe less.
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With about zero flex in the 8000 mile just in time delivery system , the shutdown would be a crisis in a matter of hours. Workers would be savaged to the bone being fired and having no savings as drastic cost cutting measures were enacted. In some places if people stocked up the supply chain could never catch up even if oil went right back down to 100 a barrel in a 2 weeks maybe less.
hence my first post

Gulf Ministers Float Talks on Countering a Blockade
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...473723368.html

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was my fault sorry

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