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Old 02-12-2011, 04:56 PM   #1
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Can you help?

Has anyone who believes in this, tell me if they've had experienced a flash of light and hearing a helicopter at night, after which they felt cranial pain but were otherwise awake and lucid.
Is this something the military is testing us as guinea pigs for and can this be stopped volitionally by the victim? Has anyone been able successfuly to neutralize or block this intrusion? If this is some sort of sonic warfare tool, and if all is based on ether/energy, can the Higher Self ward this off and how?Thanks.
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Old 21-12-2011, 10:50 AM   #2
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Hi,

Can you help?

Has anyone who believes in this, tell me if they've had experienced a flash of light and hearing a helicopter at night, after which they felt cranial pain but were otherwise awake and lucid.
Is this something the military is testing us as guinea pigs for and can this be stopped volitionally by the victim? Has anyone been able successfuly to neutralize or block this intrusion? If this is some sort of sonic warfare tool, and if all is based on ether/energy, can the Higher Self ward this off and how?Thanks.
I'm not sure if this will help, but I'll try!

What follows are merely a series of observations, none of which should be taken as any sort of definitive overview of the phenomenon you've described. My advice would be to seek out the help of a qualified medical professional and do this as a matter of urgency. It sounds to me like you're in a great deal of physical and emotional discomfort, and I sincerely hope that you’ll be able to find an effective and lasting remedy before too long.

From what I've been able to find out on this subject, it appears that you are not alone. You may already have heard of 'hypnic jerks', but if not then this could be behind the symptoms you've described.

A 'hypnic jerk' is apparently caused by a spasm of blood vessels in the brain, or by a migraine. Sometimes it is described by medical professionals as a 'hypnagogic massive jerk' - usually occurring at the moment before we fall asleep.

Patients experiencing a ‘hypnic jerk’ often mention the sensation of falling, or something that’s akin to receiving an electric shock.

But the good news is that this experience is nothing to worry about – it’s completely normal.

Root causes appear to be over tiredness or poor sleeping position. Not much is known about the condition, although studies suggest that the disorder affects around ten percent of the population each night. But wait for it - it gets better!!!

A ‘hypnic jerk’ can also happen when you're awake!

This is less common, and tends to occur soon after waking from a deep sleep. The symptoms present themselves as , "...a loud snap or cracking which seems to come from the center of the head. Some people have also been known to have visual sleep starts, in which a blinding flash of light awakens the sleeper, but these cases are also extremely rare." People have also reported hearing things too - maybe this accounts for you hearing 'helicopters' at the same time?

Of course, you may feel that there are other forces at work? You would not be alone in this respect. For instance, religious texts commonly include personal epiphanies and divine revelations; all preceded by a blinding flash of light. Take Saul for instance, who upon reaching the outskirts of Damascus was suddenly dazed by a blinding flash of light, "...it was bright - brighter than the sun." he is reported to have said. Saul then communicates with the god of his understanding and becomes an obedient believer on the spot.

Neurological, technological, evangelical - I don't know mate?

However, if you are genuinely 'under attack' from dark forces then it sounds like you might be an excellent candidate for 'Quiet Rooms'. I’ve posted about this subject elsewhere on this forum, but if you want to find out more for yourself then maybe start with this link.

Anyway, here’s hoping you’ll find a lasting resolution to what you’re currently going through – it does sound like a massive annoyance at best.
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Old 21-12-2011, 11:15 AM   #3
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Hi,

Can you help?

Has anyone who believes in this, tell me if they've had experienced a flash of light and hearing a helicopter at night, after which they felt cranial pain but were otherwise awake and lucid.
Is this something the military is testing us as guinea pigs for and can this be stopped volitionally by the victim? Has anyone been able successfuly to neutralize or block this intrusion? If this is some sort of sonic warfare tool, and if all is based on ether/energy, can the Higher Self ward this off and how?Thanks.
the bright light is normal for a mind control victim....there even bits in the movies manchurian candidate(new version) and shutter island were the victim sees things go bright for a while
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>Has anyone who believes in this, tell me if they've had experienced a flash of light and hearing a helicopter at night, after which they felt cranial pain but were otherwise awake and lucid.

Yes, the helicopter noise happened to me twice- in successive days. To me, it happened by day- and I was outside, by myself. I looked around and could not see a helicopter- but the noise was loud and very powerful. I was startled and scared for a few moments. It happened at a few days after concentrated meditation where I was making progress in connected with the cosmic consciousness. My thoughts were having effect on people around me. In any case, after these incidents and others- it was difficult to get back to that meditative state, and I haven't experienced that kind of "connection" since. It could be a purposeful technique to ward people off from the very powerful connective force that we know exists between people.
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I'm not sure if this will help, but I'll try!

What follows are merely a series of observations, none of which should be taken as any sort of definitive overview of the phenomenon you've described. My advice would be to seek out the help of a qualified medical professional and do this as a matter of urgency. It sounds to me like you're in a great deal of physical and emotional discomfort, and I sincerely hope that you’ll be able to find an effective and lasting remedy before too long.

From what I've been able to find out on this subject, it appears that you are not alone. You may already have heard of 'hypnic jerks', but if not then this could be behind the symptoms you've described.

A 'hypnic jerk' is apparently caused by a spasm of blood vessels in the brain, or by a migraine. Sometimes it is described by medical professionals as a 'hypnagogic massive jerk' - usually occurring at the moment before we fall asleep.

Patients experiencing a ‘hypnic jerk’ often mention the sensation of falling, or something that’s akin to receiving an electric shock.

But the good news is that this experience is nothing to worry about – it’s completely normal.

Root causes appear to be over tiredness or poor sleeping position. Not much is known about the condition, although studies suggest that the disorder affects around ten percent of the population each night. But wait for it - it gets better!!!

A ‘hypnic jerk’ can also happen when you're awake!

This is less common, and tends to occur soon after waking from a deep sleep. The symptoms present themselves as , "...a loud snap or cracking which seems to come from the center of the head. Some people have also been known to have visual sleep starts, in which a blinding flash of light awakens the sleeper, but these cases are also extremely rare." People have also reported hearing things too - maybe this accounts for you hearing 'helicopters' at the same time?

Of course, you may feel that there are other forces at work? You would not be alone in this respect. For instance, religious texts commonly include personal epiphanies and divine revelations; all preceded by a blinding flash of light. Take Saul for instance, who upon reaching the outskirts of Damascus was suddenly dazed by a blinding flash of light, "...it was bright - brighter than the sun." he is reported to have said. Saul then communicates with the god of his understanding and becomes an obedient believer on the spot.

Neurological, technological, evangelical - I don't know mate?

However, if you are genuinely 'under attack' from dark forces then it sounds like you might be an excellent candidate for 'Quiet Rooms'. I’ve posted about this subject elsewhere on this forum, but if you want to find out more for yourself then maybe start with this link.

Anyway, here’s hoping you’ll find a lasting resolution to what you’re currently going through – it does sound like a massive annoyance at best.
BUT, the regular jerk of falling asleep can be noted to use a muscle group. The involuntary jerk of any part of the human body that happens without the muscle group in question being used is being done from an interdimensional realm.
It's like the difference between a muscle jerk and someone else actually moving your arm when it's relaxed.
I have not heard of helecopters being responsible for bright lights and pain but deca would be the expert on that.

Deca???? where are you???
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EMF can make you light sensitive

these are the basic effects...not the high tuned/control effects the mind control & electronic harrassment victims experiences


also i believe they hack/stimulate you visual cortex , this can cause many effects ....images/video pop into your 3rd eye normal day time....induced video on the back of your eyelids as you fall asleep ....holographic images...but I believe are more argument reality you perceive them as projections outside your body but are add to your visual cortex

often your probably notice as you walk about it can get induced brighter/dim again probably from them stimulate your brain
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probably as many know i am in the military camp when it comes to doing Psychotronics they done the research/past history of it/ have the capability

but if you still believe that aliens/ET or whatever doing it please educate yourself on mind control techniques as who ever you believe doing it...is using them on you.

also the use the good cop/bad cop.....good alien/bad alien or variations depending on your belief structure etc

the technology(or what ever) is just another way to deliverer these techniques

think about how/who still have to deal with your brain/mind that has not altered in century`s

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Terminology note: Today Mind control or brainwashing in academia is commonly referred to as coercive persuasion, coercive psychological systems or coercive influence. The short description below comes from Dr. Margaret Singer professor emeritus at the University of California at Berkeley the acknowledged leading authority in the world on mind control and cults.

a short overview

Coercion is defined by the American Heritage Dictionary as:

To force to act or think in a certain manner

To dominate, restrain, or control by force

To bring about by force.

Coercive psychological systems are behavioral change programs which use psychological force in a coercive way to cause the learning and adoption of an ideology or designated set of beliefs, ideas, attitudes, or behaviors. The essential strategy used by the operators of these programs is to systematically select, sequence and coordinate many different types of coercive influence, anxiety and stress-producing tactics over continuous periods of time.

In such a program the subject is forced to adapt in a series of tiny "invisible" steps. Each tiny step is designed to be sufficiently small so the subjects will not notice the changes in themselves or identify the coercive nature of the processes being used. The subjects of these tactics do not become aware of the hidden organizational purpose of the coercive psychological program until much later, if ever. These tactics are usually applied in a group setting by well intentioned but deceived "friends and allies" of the victim. This keeps the victim from putting up the ego defenses we normally maintain in known adversarial situations.

The coercive psychological influence of these programs aim to overcome the individual's critical thinking abilities and free will - apart from any appeal to informed judgment. Victims gradually lose their ability to make independent decisions and exercise informed consent. Their critical thinking, defenses, cognitive processes, values, ideas, attitudes, conduct and ability to reason are undermined by a technological process rather than by meaningful free choice, rationality, or the inherent merit or value of the ideas or propositions being presented.
How Do They Work?

The tactics used to create undue psychological and social influence, often by means involving anxiety and stress, fall into seven main categories.

TACTIC 1

Increase suggestibility and "soften up" the individual through specific hypnotic or other suggestibility-increasing techniques such as:Extended audio, visual, verbal, or tactile fixation drills, Excessive exact repetition of routine activities, Sleep restriction and/or Nutritional restriction.
TACTIC 2

Establish control over the person's social environment, time and sources of social support by a system of often-excessive rewards and punishments. Social isolation is promoted. Contact with family and friends is abridged, as is contact with persons who do not share group-approved attitudes. Economic and other dependence on the group is fostered.
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Prohibit disconfirming information and non supporting opinions in group communication. Rules exist about permissible topics to discuss with outsiders. Communication is highly controlled. An "in-group" language is usually constructed.
TACTIC 4

Make the person re-evaluate the most central aspects of his or her experience of self and prior conduct in negative ways. Efforts are designed to destabilize and undermine the subject's basic consciousness, reality awareness, world view, emotional control and defense mechanisms. The subject is guided to reinterpret his or her life's history and adopt a new version of causality.
TACTIC 5

Create a sense of powerlessness by subjecting the person to intense and frequent actions and situations which undermine the person's confidence in himself and his judgment.
TACTIC 6

Create strong aversive emotional arousals in the subject by use of nonphysical punishments such as intense humiliation, loss of privilege, social isolation, social status changes, intense guilt, anxiety, manipulation and other techniques.
TACTIC 7

Intimidate the person with the force of group-sanctioned secular psychological threats. For example, it may be suggested or implied that failure to adopt the approved attitude, belief or consequent behavior will lead to severe punishment or dire consequences such as physical or mental illness, the reappearance of a prior physical illness, drug dependence, economic collapse, social failure, divorce, disintegration, failure to find a mate, etc.

These tactics of psychological force are applied to such a severe degree that the individual's capacity to make informed or free choices becomes inhibited. The victims become unable to make the normal, wise or balanced decisions which they most likely or normally would have made, had they not been unknowingly manipulated by these coordinated technical processes. The cumulative effect of these processes can be an even more effective form of undue influence than pain, torture, drugs or the use of physical force and physical and legal threats.
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these techniques have come out of the physical ways...but they still stand for the virtual type of attacks

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Old 22-12-2011, 01:47 AM   #10
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I think that people not aliens fly around in choppers and are evil enought to abuse other human beings for their agenda and paychecks. It is just still beyond logic to comprehend why on earth someone will be spending money on equipment and all that just for the sake of experimentation. It also does not make sense that innocent people have to undergo this instead of targets being criminals, terrorists, other evil people. One evil group can perp on the other evil group and leave good citizens alone. I don't know enought to know how the light comes into play and the cranial sensation but if the technology is there and lab rats are needed, it is not so unbeliavable after all.
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this happened to me. i was outside on the porch a few years ago with my girlfriend, and we heard this high pitched humming/whining noise. we wondered what it was and walked around the house to investigate and it seemed like it got louder and louder. and then we had intense muscle pains in our shoulders and necks it was almost paralyzing. our legs still worked and we hurried back inside, where we didn't hear it anymore and the pains subsided. never figured it out, didn't see ufo or helicopters. just noise and pains.
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EMF can make you light sensitive

these are the basic effects...not the high tuned/control effects the mind control & electronic harrassment victims experiences


also i believe they hack/stimulate you visual cortex , this can cause many effects ....images/video pop into your 3rd eye normal day time....induced video on the back of your eyelids as you fall asleep ....holographic images...but I believe are more argument reality you perceive them as projections outside your body but are add to your visual cortex

often your probably notice as you walk about it can get induced brighter/dim again probably from them stimulate your brain
So if your supposition is correct and EMF is already widely deployed - in the process causing all this unpleasantness - does this explain the growing trend for 'Quiet Rooms' amongst those that have the means to afford them?

(Have you seen their prices!!!!)



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i was shown a bright shining light (in my mind) within the context of a psychiatric institution shortly after i had let go of myself after colapsing amongst my own paranoia and concious regret and shame for my own actions.

it came right after i gave up under persecution of psychic delusion.

i do however remember the day after i was able to move through the subconscious of other people, and psychically manipulated a scenario which a friend of mine then played out, and when i gave him the keyword cue to the scenario he came out with "holy shit you really have 'psycho-kinetic' powers", his exact words, which he shortly after dismissed.

this friend has always been one for manipulating his own pride, and never moved beyond the gross satisfaction of putrification amongst his own neglect to refrain from sadist values.

this allowed the implantation of a false godhead and reasoning within myself, this exposure at a time of need, and the staff of the facility were all controlled via situation to enforce these procedures at a childrens psychiatric facility.
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"also i believe they hack/stimulate you visual cortex "


this is a reality, i have experienced it, i have seen computer artifacts trace around my mental structures and be composed of thoughts and brainscans and such, they can transmit anywhere
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look let's have an open mind here and put our beliefs and biases to one side and actually look at the evidence

first the similarities in marks/scars reported by "alien abductees/contactees" and victims of DEWS (direct energy weapons )

first from this 20 mins in DR karla turner

Ufo's Aliens Contact (Full Documentary).mp4








now from TI`s

OSEH NEWS - EVIDENCES OF DEW ATTACKS







so lets get this clear there is real evidence that something is tracking/targeting unwitten humans
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