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Old 02-10-2009, 09:58 AM   #41
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very tempting as some of his stuff is really interesting.. did you get to any of the Liverpool conventions ?
Unfortunatley no, but there is an exopolitics one here in Liverpool in march that im looking forward to.
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Old 02-10-2009, 11:26 AM   #42
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Unfortunatley no, but there is an exopolitics one here in Liverpool in march that im looking forward to.
The "Beyond Knowledge" ones are pretty cool...

this one has just gone

http://www.beyond-knowledge.co.uk/ .. some interesting interviews attached..

I went to last years which was cool.. maybe DW will be on next years...
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Old 03-10-2009, 09:46 AM   #43
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The "Beyond Knowledge" ones are pretty cool...

this one has just gone

http://www.beyond-knowledge.co.uk/ .. some interesting interviews attached..

I went to last years which was cool.. maybe DW will be on next years...
Im really looking forward to it thirdwave, ill keep you updated if I hear of anymore.
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Barrack Obama is a good speaker because he is using hypnotic techniques and hand gestures, I wouldn't trust him though and I think Wilcock is confused.
Obama is another slickly packaged new world order minion, there is nothing good in his heart or soul except a little note that says '..on loan to the corporations..'

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Old 03-10-2009, 10:43 PM   #45
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Has anyone else here read david wilcock's materials? I notice he is often mentioned here. He talks about secret projects a fair bit, and has a compelling grand unified theory of alternative science in his ebooks, culminating in "the divine cosmos".

It covers mostly the work of russian scientists. There is ongoing modern research in this feild, which can be found on the net. Apart from the theory itself, it explains in comprehensible terms what this science actually means, in terms of practical effects and how it works on a small scale etc.

It covers to the same degree as bearden the possibility of all those alternative weapons, mind control tech etc - although he doesnt really talk about weather control or any of these weapon type possibilities. It also explains the possibility of psychic phenomena, anti-gravity and all sorts of alien/nwo type tech, the principles of magick ritual, the properties of crystals, sacred geometry, free energy, the periodic table of elements and the structure of matter - basically it covers the possiblity of every phenomena there is.
He may have neat topics on spiritual stuff, but fact that he says he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce leaves me no choice but to look the other way.
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He may have neat topics on spiritual stuff, but fact that he says he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce leaves me no choice but to look the other way.

oh god.

I was not aware of that.


I never knew Edgar Cayce had the hippy long hair look about him. Could you give a source to where he sayas this, it would be great thanks.
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Old 04-10-2009, 03:20 AM   #47
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Im really looking forward to it thirdwave, ill keep you updated if I hear of anymore.
thanks, will give you a shout if i manage to get ticks!
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Barrack Obama is a good speaker because he is using hypnotic techniques and hand gestures, I wouldn't trust him though and I think Wilcock is confused.
Obama is another slickly packaged new world order minion, there is nothing good in his heart or soul except a little note that says '..on loan to the corporations..'
Iloved the first talk he did but his recent one, left me staggered as he clearly has been sucked into the system and is now blatantly a tool for PTB. Yes he does have some very interesting things to say and some of it like positive thinking is essential but it is the same old thing the truth muddled up with deliberate misinfo. The reasons

1. Penguin book company approached him to publish his book, penguin is owned by global NWO company Pearsons who also own media outlet the financial times.

2. He says the NWO has already collapsed and will be gone in a year, what planet is he on. It is only just begining, the begining of codex comes into force this year,pharmaceutical companies already own 90% of health supplements,and then there is monsanto busy buying up all the seeds on the planet so they can make them GM and the impending war in Iran and the dumping of depleted uranium on the middle eastern countries.

Sorry but thinking positive thoughts will not stop this. Thinking postive thoughts about we can stop is much better. There is nothing enlightened about supporting war. I bet he wouldn't be so positive if it was his family they were dumping depleted uranium on

His tactic is to mind manipulate people into thinking postive thought and ignore all this stuff as if it doesn't matter as long as its not them, (self) and to not react to NWO agenda, that way they will get their NWO plan in place, if no one opposes it.

The NWO is now infiltrating alternative media, many books are now published by companies that are owned by NWO illminati elite families, they all enourage self interest, selfishness seperateness, this makes us weak against NWO. They should encourage that we are all one.
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David Wilcock is a tool.


There is no debate about it. It's nothing personal. It is nothing to be shocked about. His assignement was planned. His mission is to do as he does. He's completing it.

No questions, no answers and no need to debate about whether hes good, bad sloppy, doopey and wonderful.

Some things he says are good and some things he says are not and that's fine for his mission. It his souls mission.


I know this, because I know when I sometimes speak publically about my work, I know many entities are working through me. The Astar command work though many light workers.

Recently I've spoken to a friend about a topic I will not share with anyone. I mean it is pretty confidential. She was able to handle what I was telling her. But something within me just catched onto me like a wire to a plug in the wall, and literally scrambled my thougths so I could not say what I wanted.

It was telling me "now is not the time, your doing away with your head"

In other words, we have to remember when we all have a spiritual mission we must realise we are on the 3D plane stuck in a human body in a imperfect world we can easily get cot up with the ego and matrix realiy. So I was uncomfortable about this experience.

But I later realised that my higher self and guides stopped me from dicussing something I should not be for the time being. It's all about energy. And many people such as David icke David Wilcock and many other public figures are been influnced by the astar command and they do not know it. But I will say it is nothing to fear. It is important the higher dimensions are there to watch us in this dense reality especially when some of us bring our energies onto the world stage.

Anyway I hope this give some sense as to why David Wilcock is channeling out strange things. But you will soon realise that all that is happening is meant to happen for a good purpose.

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David Wilcock is a tool.


There is no debate about it. It's nothing personal. It is nothing to be shocked about. His assignement was planned. His mission is to do as he does.

No questions, no answers and no need to debate about whether hes good, bad sloppy, doopey and wonderful.

Some things he says are good and some things he says are not and that's fine for his mission.
Sounds like your looking for some guru to take your hand, hence why anything DW says you don't like gives you the jitters..

Personally I think you are talking complete bollocks.
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Old 05-10-2009, 03:22 PM   #51
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Sounds like your looking for some guru to take your hand, hence why anything DW says you don't like gives you the jitters..

Personally I think you are talking complete bollocks.
Well your not one to judge me or assume how I find him. Maybe you need someone to take you by the hand?

You should read post before you spew ignorance and assume what you think people are thinking. I did say I'm fine with DW work. You should learn how to read posts, I would say this strongly to you.


You don't know what people think, You don't seem to understand your own thoughts or whats in black and white in front of you You don't have the ability to get inside my head. So don't try.

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oh god.

I was not aware of that.


I never knew Edgar Cayce had the hippy long hair look about him. Could you give a source to where he sayas this, it would be great thanks.
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I know this, because I know when I sometimes speak publically about my work, I know many entities are working through me. The Astar command work though many light workers.
I'm not sticking up for Wilcock here. Although did you know that Sananda, the head of the *Ashtar Command, is actually Jesus, Buddha, Krishna ad nauseam, in the 5th Dimension? And don't get me started on those spandlex leotards some of the Ashtar 'crew' wear. Lunch anyone?

P.s. Did I mention 'tards?

*(I assume you mean ashtar and not astar)
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I'm not sticking up for Wilcock here. Although did you know that Sananda, the head of the *Ashtar Command, is actually Jesus, Buddha, Krishna ad nauseam, in the 5th Dimension? And don't get me started on those spandlex leotards some of the Ashtar 'crew' wear. Lunch anyone?

P.s. Did I mention 'tards?

*(I assume you mean ashtar and not astar)
I meant Ashtar.

I know the dis info as to who and what they really are. The systematic control only allows you see what they want you to see.

Jesus, Budda, Osiris, Krishna, Horus, Isis. etc Are all reprenstation of the carrier galactic federation model that really exists. They are not all fifth dimensional. Some are 4th, 6th and 7th dimennsional beings. Some of the "gods" are already remembering themeselves in their present lifetime now. They will reveal themselves soon enough. I cannot say whether the illuminists on the planet want you to see them as they really are. But it seems they are spreading their message into the backdoor mediums over the internet at this time as people begin to awaken.

All I can say, it really depends on your development as to how this transition will occur. But I can say when the return of Christ comes they will make themselves known. This is what I am shown and allowed to say at this time.

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I meant Ashtar.

I know the dis info as to who and what they really are. The systematic control only allows you see what they want you to see.

Jesus, Budda, Osiris, Krishna, Horus, Isis. etc Are all reprenstation of the carrier galactic federation model that really exists. They are not all fifth dimensional. Some are 4th, 6th and 7th dimennsional beings. Some of the "gods" are already remembering themeselves in their present lifetime now. They will reveal themselves soon enough. I cannot say whether the illuminists on the planet want you to see them as they really are. But it seems they are spreading their message into the backdoor mediums over the internet at this time as people begin to awaken.

All I can say, it really depends on your development as to how this transition will occur. But I can say when the return of Christ comes they will make themselves known. This is what I am shown and allowed to say at this time.
The whole 'Galactic Federation' 'Ashtar Command' model is (as some would call it) an Illuminati model. I find it hilarious and bewildering at the same time to see those who completely dis-miss the 'Jesus Christ' story, to fall for the whole 2012 propaganda. The 2012 date would have absolutely no significance if a certain mythical figure was not born 2009 years ago. I could go on and on to get my point across on this particular and very clever set-up, but it would be a lengthy post.

I did however make a post about about the kind of thing I'm getting at.
http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63300
I actually kept it as short as I possibly could. I did also make a continuation of that post that dealt primarily with the 'Indigo' phenomena and the whole 'Star Seed' crap, but then I noticed others had made posts themselves, and other than my own theories, I pretty much duped what a couple of people had said already - and so left it at that.

There is of course a mass Spiritual awakening going on, that's virtually impossible to deny, but there is a psy-ops at almost every corner. The fake 2012 scenario is of course testament to this. We are being led to worship a spiritual hierarchy that has been camouflaged to suit our yearnings. It's all there in black and white my friend if you care to dig a little deeper..

For now
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The whole 'Galactic Federation' 'Ashtar Command' model is (as some would call it) an Illuminati model. I find it hilarious and bewildering at the same time to see those who completely dis-miss the 'Jesus Christ' story, to fall for the whole 2012 propaganda. The 2012 date would have absolutely no significance if a certain mythical figure was not born 2009 years ago. I could go on and on to get my point across on this particular and very clever set-up, but it would be a lengthy post.

That was my point it's the commercial standardized perception of the real beings to help us understand the message at this level. I agree with you. Infact I was always aware the Galactic federation medium that the masses see is really the gimic version of the real galactic federation.

You don't need to explain to me. Infact it would be far better that you didn't.
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I did however make a post about about the kind of thing I'm getting at.
http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63300
I actually kept it as short as I possibly could. I did also make a continuation of that post that dealt primarily with the 'Indigo' phenomena and the whole 'Star Seed' crap, but then I noticed others had made posts themselves, and other than my own theories, I pretty much duped what a couple of people had said already - and so left it at that.
I read some of it, it seems like your focused on being self righteous and juggling up all sorts of judgements to fit your view of the world. Not gonna work like that.

The way you even protray yourself "haha I duped what a couple of people said already so I left it at that"

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There is of course a mass Spiritual awakening going on, that's virtually impossible to deny, but there is a psy-ops at almost every corner. The fake 2012 scenario is of course testament to this. We are being led to worship a spiritual hierarchy that has been camouflaged to suit our yearnings. It's all there in black and white my friend if you care to dig a little deeper..

For now
There is a mass awakening and guess what 2012 is almost here.

I think you need to dig deeper into yourself. You seem so far away from reality you assume everything you say is right when infact you know nothing about yourself or where you come from. The point on been right and someone been wrong is futile.

Find out who you are and let the universe figure out the rest.

The fake 2012 scenerio is just other entities wanting to manipulated the masses into thinking the mass awakening is nonsense. Oh It didn't even figure out reverse pshcyology here or how important this plays into this. This is seen when you can decipher the world around you. There are many factions of E.T.s trying to control your world. The highest group the The higher self of you (the real illuminati) Are behind scenes been manifesting the balance and guiding light through this world in multidimensional frequencies and projections most would never be able to fully understand. There is a good reason they are not known or seen on this planet.The real illuminati is actually you all along.

So it is important that every faction of reality plays out whether it's truth or deception. All markings that make this world was the guide for you to complete you and the higher self at one. This test is the lower self reaching the higher self in much shorter time. The higher self goals is to bring balance of the self in all lower dimensions up to the 7th dimension. This is done so that your "being and higher self" is ready to be the masters of creation.

So it seems futile to try disect who's behind the new age movement, your wasting to much energy on it.

Because it's you all along playing the devil's advocate. You probably think this is bullshit. that's because the advice you told me was never practiced by you.

Dig a little deeper my friend, and refrain from judging the universe before you.

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Well I tried to be pleasant, direct and comical about it all mind1universe, but it obviously didn't work.

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LOL.. You think you know me well enough to be able to make that judgement of me. My my...

I would've enjoyed debating with you and was actually looking forward to reading what you had to say, but you've just responded with ad hominem attacks. I was going to stress at the end of my post that it was not a pop at you, but rather an alternative view on the subject and was anticipating some good healthy debate, but I was naive enough to believe we could be adults about it. Not to be obviously.

And I could've quite easily responded to every single one of your points, but seriously what is the point?

If you think you can handle debating the subject in the future without the need for 'peace attacks', then PM me with the link and I will debate you with my own version of events. One version out of over six billion.

Good luck on your 'mission'..

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he's on coast to coast tonight (tue 6th oct)
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hmm pretty good bit i'm listening too. george noory just asked you know so much don't you think you are a tool for the illuminati ?

but the big one he has just said is full US governmental ufo disclosure to be announced on television before christmas with the introduction of aliens
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Well your not one to judge me or assume how I find him. Maybe you need someone to take you by the hand?

You should read post before you spew ignorance and assume what you think people are thinking. I did say I'm fine with DW work. You should learn how to read posts, I would say this strongly to you.


You don't know what people think, You don't seem to understand your own thoughts or whats in black and white in front of you You don't have the ability to get inside my head. So don't try.
I was not really trying, to be honest

But It seems you have completely judged him, so why cant I judge you?

please elaborate on how he is a tool doing what he is meant to do and why there is no debate about it... set me straight.
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That C2C was an insanely positive message. Highly recommended listening...

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