Vegan vs Meat Eating Mega Thread

[plam]

So no scientific arguments here as usual
Just subjective observations with bad intentions

All that smell thing is psychosomatic, of course.
Sense of smell is rather interesting
We can induce aromas purely by the mind
Just by thinking of them.

The classic case is lemons.
If you think of lemons, sometimes
you detect the aroma without actually having lemons in front of you.

So veggies with an obsessive nature
can make themselves sick from the smell of meat
purely on psychosomatic basis

[matteria]

Originally Posted by matteria

I could shower once a week and I'd still smell better than someone who eats meat because my meals a) don't putrefy during digestion and b) are void of foreign proteins and amino acids derived from the tissue/blood of another organism (yes, blood is at all times in the tissue of animals dead or alive, just like in humans).

So no facing the facts with plam here as usual
Just his defense mechanism of trying to subjectify everything

[farros]

Originally Posted by plam

So much generalisations and ignorance.

Sweat is odorless!!!
The bad smell comes from the bacteria on the skin
which feeds on the sweat.

Plus the actual smell varies from person to person.
The 'recipe' of sweat is individual.
It does not depend so much on the food
but the personal hygiene.

I rarely have a bad smell.
Maybe because I don't sweat so much!
Like the queen!

There are certain type of food that do contribute
to bad smell - curry, garlic and strong spices.
That's why people eating these food and lacking proper hygiene
usually smell really bad.

And this idea about the animals being put off by human smell
it's your imagination and your tendency
to see yourself as somewhat superior.
In other words - bollocks!

More fucking broscience. Stop pulling facts out your ass and presenting them as truth.

what you eat is directly related to how your sweat smells. Thats how people tell you've eaten garlic, and how people can tell if you've had a spicy curry. It also suggest why each colour of people have a general smell about them as their diets tend to be similar. IE asian people tend to have a distinct smell, chinese.. its down to the traditional foods they eat. The skin is an elimination organ.

Originally Posted by vegan_on_the_land

I've noticed that meat has a rank, sweaty smell. I notice this when I pass butchers' stalls in the market. Bacon smells nasty. I used to like the smell when I was a meat eater.

Meat eaters often have an unpleasant smell about them. I don't know if it is their sweat or some gaseous emission.

I've definatly found meat eaters to have a rank smell to them after going veggie. Not by default, but if theyre sweating then sure.

[robbyblade]

SAD or SWD (standard American, or Standard Western Diet) eaters smell, which includes almost all meat-eaters (and many vegans/veggies). Grains, legumes, and lentils, anything with high carbohydrates can make you smell and give you a lot of gas that can make you emit smells.
Barbecue sauce with its refined sugars will make you smell. COOKED meat might make you smell. I'm not really sure about eating it on its own. When I ate cooked meat, I was eating tons of other crap with it.

Raw meat and raw milk will NOT make you smell.

I have eaten all raw for 2 and a half years and have stopped using soap or shampoo in that time. I take one or two ice cold showers every day and I do not smell. I cannot stand the smell of fake fragrances now. They are toxic.

Once every few months, I will get a nervous moment, where my armpits have a faint unpleasant odor, but as long as I used my raw apple cider vinegar on my armpits that day, it will completely keep the odor from happening.

I think that that is some sort of chemical reaction in the body when anxiety happens, and it only comes out of the armpits, and again the raw apple cider vinegar totally eliminates it.

Also, I hardly ever have to fart anymore, unless I eat a LOT of raw honey.

Cows wouldn't fart if they would eat grass instead of grains. Tell that to the global warming idiots. Humans would fart a lot less if they stopped all this carb eating.

[getmeout]

Maybe it is an issue of the body being too acidic, once again? Sodium bicarbonate works really well as a deodorant...

[pepsi78]

Originally Posted by getmeout

Maybe it is an issue of the body being too acidic, once again? Sodium bicarbonate works really well as a deodorant...

Meat and milk they decompose faster so they are bound to smell.

Leave a meat hulk and something else like a salad on the kitchen counter for a day or so and see the one that degrades faster, notice the smell from the degrading meat. It will degrade fast while the salad will stay intact (no degrading smell)
It just how meat smells when degraded. The odor from rotting corpse that needs to be buried is the same sweet odor produced by the people that eat this stuff but to a smaller amount.

So you are right, people that eat meat stink, their armpits stink also from this sweet meat cream smell. As they say what you eat is what you are.

[plam]

Originally Posted by farros

More fucking broscience. Stop pulling facts out your ass and presenting them as truth.

Faroscho, these the facts little boy
You check it. You're just being pissed off
I made you feel embarrassed about laughter
Don't be such a bad loser.

If you read correctly, which you don't obviously
I did mention garlic, curry and strong spices.
Short attention span?

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I never use any soap/shampoo or any other body washes
I never use any body perfumes or any other such things
How come I never smell at all?

All my women have even complained about it
as they say it's not very manly for a man not to smell at all.

So how do you explain that?
Am I reptilian, maybe?

[getmeout]

Originally Posted by pepsi78

Meat and milk they decompose faster so they are bound to smell.

Leave a meat hulk and something else like a salad on the kitchen counter for a day or so and see the one that degrades faster, notice the smell from the degrading meat. It will degrade fast while the salad will stay intact (no degrading smell)
It just how meat smells when degraded. The odor from rotting corpse that needs to be buried is the same sweet odor produced by the people that eat this stuff but to a smaller amount.

So you are right, people that eat meat stink, their armpits stink also from this sweet meat cream smell. As they say what you eat is what you are.

Yes, and maybe thats why the gentleman above notice himself smelling alot better when not eating grains legumes and other acid forming foods

[vibratingpickle]

Originally Posted by mariag

one thing that has crossed my mind when it comes to smells and meat eaters contra vegetarians/ vegans is how animal reacts to humans. Maybe I have this wrong and maybe I am imagining but animals use smell as one way of communicating. Very often when taking my daughter to school we pass deers and hares on our way. Usually they would take a runner and hide in the woods but not now. Do they also react to smells and can they tell if we are harmless contra dangerous just by smell?

This is something I find hilarious. Animals do not fear me. The hunters out here have to jump through all sorts of hoops to get within firing range of animals. This is because the animals smell the fear and death emanating from the persons pores.

I had to go a week without showering or change of clothes during an ice storm. A whole week with the same socks and I never developed any BO. I have not used anything for deoderant in maybe 8 years. No need to.

[matteria]

Originally Posted by plam

I never use any soap/shampoo or any other body washes
I never use any body perfumes or any other such things
How come I never smell at all?

All my women have even complained about it
as they say it's not very manly for a man not to smell at all.

So how do you explain that?
Am I reptilian, maybe?

according to icke reptilians do smell. sulfur-y.

i dont think anyone here believes you are the exception to the rule.

[mariag]

Originally Posted by pepsi78

Meat and milk they decompose faster so they are bound to smell.

Leave a meat hulk and something else like a salad on the kitchen counter for a day or so and see the one that degrades faster, notice the smell from the degrading meat. It will degrade fast while the salad will stay intact (no degrading smell)
It just how meat smells when degraded. The odor from rotting corpse that needs to be buried is the same sweet odor produced by the people that eat this stuff but to a smaller amount.

So you are right, people that eat meat stink, their armpits stink also from this sweet meat cream smell. As they say what you eat is what you are.

True, I have made Creme Fraiche and sour milk this week, after 8 hours it does smell, and it smell sour due to bacteria and lactose etc ....
But I have to say that I prefer this smell when it comes to the smell of rotting corpse, yikes ... Thats what BBQ smells to me ....

[vegan_on_the_land]

Originally Posted by biblegirl

These topics seem to have a cultish vibe to them...

I'll tell you what is more like a cult - the cult of meat eating. It would be easy to believe there is some sort of devil worship behind it. One that demands blood sacrifices and cruelty to appease the devil hordes.

Originally Posted by robbyblade

Cows wouldn't fart if they would eat grass instead of grains. Tell that to the global warming idiots. Humans would fart a lot less if they stopped all this carb eating.

Beef produced in feedlots has a smaller carbon footprint than meat raised exclusively on pastures, according to the surprise results of a UNSW study of the environmental impacts of red meat production.

"The other main reason for the better greenhouse performance of grain-fed beef is the superior digestibility of the feed and the associated reduction in methane emissions, and these digestion-related methane emissions are the main source of greenhouse gas from the livestock industry."
sciencealert.com.au/news/20100402-20565.html

[robbyblade]

Beef produced in feedlots has a smaller carbon footprint than meat raised exclusively on pastures, according to the surprise results of a UNSW study of the environmental impacts of red meat production.

"The other main reason for the better greenhouse performance of grain-fed beef is the superior digestibility of the feed and the associated reduction in methane emissions, and these digestion-related methane emissions are the main source of greenhouse gas from the livestock industry."
sciencealert.com.au/news/20100402-20565.html

OH MY GOD!

That is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever seen!

Superior digestibility of grains to grass, FOR COWS! Grains kill cows.

Who is the UNSW? No doubt they want to support factory farming for PROFITS! Just like our government raiding raw milk farms to support BIG DAIRY.

You can't really believe that shit, Vegan on the Land?

[robbyblade]

Originally Posted by getmeout

Maybe it is an issue of the body being too acidic, once again? Sodium bicarbonate works really well as a deodorant...

Are you talking about me?

[vegan_on_the_land]

University of New South Wales, Australia.

[robbyblade]

Originally Posted by pepsi78

Meat and milk they decompose faster so they are bound to smell.

Leave a meat hulk and something else like a salad on the kitchen counter for a day or so and see the one that degrades faster, notice the smell from the degrading meat. It will degrade fast while the salad will stay intact (no degrading smell)
It just how meat smells when degraded. The odor from rotting corpse that needs to be buried is the same sweet odor produced by the people that eat this stuff but to a smaller amount.

So you are right, people that eat meat stink, their armpits stink also from this sweet meat cream smell. As they say what you eat is what you are.

You're an idiot.

Leaving food out on the counter and putting it through your digestive system are two very different things.

If you cut open a vegan, they would smell like anyone else.

[getmeout]

Originally Posted by robbyblade

Are you talking about me?

Refering to you as the 'gentleman', yes.

In general, no.

[tenzingnorgay]

Originally Posted by pepsi78

....As they say what you eat is what you are.

Yes indeed. I'm an animal and I eat animals. You eat veegtables and are therefore a .......

[tenzingnorgay]

Originally Posted by robbyblade

Beef produced in feedlots has a smaller carbon footprint than meat raised exclusively on pastures, according to the surprise results of a UNSW study of the environmental impacts of red meat production.

"The other main reason for the better greenhouse performance of grain-fed beef is the superior digestibility of the feed and the associated reduction in methane emissions, and these digestion-related methane emissions are the main source of greenhouse gas from the livestock industry."
sciencealert.com.au/news/20100402-20565.html

OH MY GOD!

That is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever seen!

Superior digestibility of grains to grass, FOR COWS! Grains kill cows.

Who is the UNSW? No doubt they want to support factory farming for PROFITS! Just like our government raiding raw milk farms to support BIG DAIRY.

You can't really believe that shit, Vegan on the Land?

UNSW - Univ New South Wales. Like all universities, in the pocket of Big Ag.

Grains are as bad for cows as they are for humans.

[matteria]

Originally Posted by tenzingnorgay

Yes indeed. I'm a zombie because I eat corpses.

fixed