Fallacies of the New Testament

blakclight · 11-11-2011, 02:23 PM

here is one of the best lectures of Bible explaining truly...
it is a series of 8 episodes...

(1/8) Fallacies of the New Testament - Yusha Evans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkaevBCU6nM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkaevBCU6nM

(2/8) Fallacies of the New Testament - Yusha Evans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiUOCZCtk7c&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiUOCZCtk7c&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

(3/8) Fallacies of the New Testament - Yusha Evans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qr6Oco1hI0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qr6Oco1hI0&feature=related

(4/8) Fallacies of the New Testament - Yusha Evans
(4/8) Fallacies of the New Testament - Yusha Evans

(5/8) Fallacies of the New Testament - Yusha Evans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFdLewnkwI8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFdLewnkwI8&feature=related

(6/8) Fallacies of the New Testament - Yusha Evans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1FP_xT3aJM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1FP_xT3aJM&feature=related

(7/8) Fallacies of the New Testament - Yusha Evans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwa_IZphL5o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwa_IZphL5o&feature=related

(8/8) Fallacies of the New Testament - Yusha Evans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7urwGtSD0o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7urwGtSD0o&feature=related

his website
http://yushaevans.com/

blackyblue · 11-11-2011, 02:43 PM

I will watch the videos,but can you please give a small run down in your own words the essential ingredients of the message please

blakclight · 11-11-2011, 02:49 PM

sure ...it shows you how the new testament is not the true book of God and it proves it with tons of evidences..and believe me you will surprised when you see it for the first time because you will know things that never been told before...anywhere .. i mean it.

waymarker · 11-11-2011, 04:14 PM

Them vids total 1 hour 20 mins, I just don't have time to watch them!
Anyway even the Koran admits Jesus was a miracle man, and we know that already..

[Koran 2.253] "We have made some of these apostles to excel the others, among them are they to whom Allah spoke, and some of them He exalted by many degrees of rank; and We gave clear miracles to Isa [Jesus] son of Marium [Mary], and strengthened him with the holy spirit..."

blakclight · 11-11-2011, 05:03 PM

waymaker...i know that u know alot and believe me i thought i did so, but this guy has something unique in his way of telling and putting things together,, if u r a logic lover (iam one btw) then this guy has great deal of it, and i never saw one like him ( and ive seen alot) strong in evidence and rational in his dealing with things and books, even in Quran he pointed many things i never thought of before..

waymarker · 11-11-2011, 06:11 PM

I still don't have time to sit through the vids, anyway i skimmed through a couple and got bored.
For example right at the start of the last vid the guy says "The nature of God and the nature of Jesus are contradictory"

Yet Jesus said - "I have not spoken on my own authority; but the Father who sent me gave me a command, what I should say and what I should speak" (John 12:49)

See, Jesus never spoke his own words, he only said what God told him to say, so there's no contradiction at all!

PS- I wish the guy in the vids would come and debate with us here in the Icke forum if he dare..

ferryman to the dead · 12-11-2011, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waymarker

I still don't have time to sit through the vids, anyway i skimmed through a couple and got bored.
For example right at the start of the last vid the guy says "The nature of God and the nature of Jesus are contradictory"

Yet Jesus said - "I have not spoken on my own authority; but the Father who sent me gave me a command, what I should say and what I should speak" (John 12:49)

See, Jesus never spoke his own words, he only said what God told him to say, so there's no contradiction at all!

PS- I wish the guy in the vids would come and debate with us here in the Icke forum if he dare..

Quote:

PS- I wish the guy in the vids would come and debate with us here in the Icke forum if he dare..

Well your no threat to him thats for sure so he would have nothing to worry about as far as your concerned or from your other pitiful little buddy black and Blue or whatever the hell his goofy ass name is.

blakclight · 12-11-2011, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waymarker

I still don't have time to sit through the vids, anyway i skimmed through a couple and got bored.
For example right at the start of the last vid the guy says "The nature of God and the nature of Jesus are contradictory"

Yet Jesus said - "I have not spoken on my own authority; but the Father who sent me gave me a command, what I should say and what I should speak" (John 12:49)

See, Jesus never spoke his own words, he only said what God told him to say, so there's no contradiction at all!

PS- I wish the guy in the vids would come and debate with us here in the Icke forum if he dare..

yah, no problems mate i think he would be more than happy to debate here with u guys...i will try to contact him and see ..

major seven · 12-11-2011, 05:18 AM

Black Light -
here is one of the best lectures of Bible explaining truly...
it is a series of 8 episodes...

(1/8) Fallacies of the New Testament - Yusha Evans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkaevBCU6nM

M7
Two minutes tops.

This Yusha Fuck bangs on about how Fucked Up the bible is, but can't even see how Fucked Up the Koran is?

http://answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra

Right!

I'm going to send him a Cowboy Hat and a pair of Scissors for a Christmas present.

And a little Propeller for his Beanie.

blackyblue · 12-11-2011, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blakclight

yah, no problems mate i think he would be more than happy to debate here with u guys...i will try to contact him and see ..

You know him then

blakclight · 12-11-2011, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ferryman to the dead

Well your no threat to him thats for sure so he would have nothing to worry about as far as your concerned or from your other pitiful little buddy black and Blue or whatever the hell his goofy ass name is.

i really dont know how to answer or comment on this stupid post, which really represent the mentality and morals of the writer....but as they say ignorance to silly people is the cure for them. take it easy goofy ass.

major seven · 12-11-2011, 06:06 AM

blakclight;1060354172][B][SIZE="4"][COLOR="Navy"]here is one of the best lectures of Bible explaining truly...
it is a series of 8 episodes...

(1/8) Fallacies of the New Testament - Yusha Evans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkaevBCU6nM

Great Job there Black Light!

You live up to your Phony screen name.

By Trashing the bible and Christianity in general, it seems to me that this Yusha Fuck's videos are nothing short of yet, Another Way to recruit Whack Job Muslim Extremists with a Hard On for Western Christians.

And you are an ACCOMPLICE in promoting this Bullshit.

Who Knows! Some future Terror Attack might just be ALL on YOU Two IDIOTS.

ISLAM, the Religion of Peace strikes again. Eh What?

blakclight · 12-11-2011, 09:20 AM

always the weak has nothing to present except wat u just posted , if u have problem with wat he is saying dont balme others for it,, it is yr book that has problems not mine....
so, please if u r a christian and u believe this is yr book, discuss wat he said and prove him wrong if u can, in a respectful way please...
and if u r not a christian y in the hell u put yr nose in something u dont know about...

and the name is BLAKCLIGHT with the K b4 the C, and its my name, do u have a problem with it...

i really wonder y all people avoiding to discuss the core of the videos and instead they attack the lecturer and the carrier,...
he pointed many issues in his videos at least bring one issue and discuss it >> but i doubt that yr stupidity which was shown clearly in yr post will prevent u from doing this , so please let other respectful people to discuss these issues and for u go and dig up some porn sites it might charge yr brain with some useful knowledge and promot u to major eight ..

johnfb · 12-11-2011, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ferryman to the dead

Well your no threat to him thats for sure so he would have nothing to worry about as far as your concerned or from your other pitiful little buddy black and Blue or whatever the hell his goofy ass name is.

LOL

Best post of the thread.....

ferryman to the dead · 12-11-2011, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blakclight

i really dont know how to answer or comment on this stupid post, which really represent the mentality and morals of the writer....but as they say ignorance to silly people is the cure for them. take it easy goofy ass.

That comment was not directed at YOU it was directed at post# 6. You really should read the thread you started first before you go making yourself look like a jack ass.

blakclight · 12-11-2011, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ferryman to the dead

That comment was not directed at YOU it was directed at post# 6. You really should read the thread you started first before you go making yourself look like a jack ass.

i really dont know wat to say, i read yr comment quickly and also my pitiful name has black in it,...but anyway if sorry will ease yr pain.
then IAM SORRY and i think we both kind asses coz we left the core of the thread which r the vids, and we fight over the silly comments...sorry mate.
btw r u a really ferry man, or just a nickname. coz i used to work as 3rd mate for many years ... but i got bored from the long voyges we used to do.

elirien · 12-11-2011, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waymarker

Them vids total 1 hour 20 mins, I just don't have time to watch them!
Anyway even the Koran admits Jesus was a miracle man, and we know that already..

[Koran 2.253] "We have made some of these apostles to excel the others, among them are they to whom Allah spoke, and some of them He exalted by many degrees of rank; and We gave clear miracles to Isa [Jesus] son of Marium [Mary], and strengthened him with the holy spirit..."

The "Koran" (whatever that is) admits?
What is the Koran and how can it admit?

major seven · 12-11-2011, 01:27 PM

Black Light says
"always the weak has nothing to present except wat u just posted , if u have problem with wat he is saying dont balme others for it,, it is yr book that has problems not mine....

M7
Right!
Always the weak has nothing better to do than make some PHONY Videos trashing their Religious COMPETITION.

Try looking at your own PHONY Bullshit religion for a change.

http://answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra

Black Light
"so, please if u r a christian and u believe this is yr book, discuss wat he said and prove him wrong if u can, in a respectful way please...
and if u r not a christian y in the hell u put yr nose in something u dont know about..."

M7
So PLEASE, if you are a muslim and you believe the Koran is YOUR Book, discuss what he did NOT say and PROVE him Right if you can.

In a respectful way of course,

OR NOT! Your choice!

Black Light
and the name is BLAKCLIGHT with the K b4 the C, and its my name, do u have a problem with it...

M7
Yes!!!
You don't know how to spell "BLACK"

Not to mention,
You
Are
Before
Your
Blame
What
Promote
Why

Black Light
i really wonder y all people avoiding to discuss the core of the videos and instead they attack the lecturer and the carrier,...

M7
The "core of the videos" is to promote more HATRED toward Christians.

The lecturer is merely an UNKEPT MORON, in need of a Hair Cut and a Cool Hat, that is advancing the CORE of the Videos.

Black Light
he pointed many issues in his videos at least bring one issue and discuss it >> but i doubt that yr stupidity which was shown clearly in yr post will prevent u from doing this , so please let other respectful people to discuss these issues and for u go and dig up some porn sites it might charge yr brain with some useful knowledge and promot u to major eight .

M7
You muslims have ENOUGH issues of your own, but Your Own STUPIDITY won't let you SEE what they are.

Try focusing on Your OWN Bullshit like,

How are we going to stop Sunni muslims from killing Shia muslims?

How are we going to keep the Wahabbis from BLOWING Up EVERYBODY?

How are we going to stop Sunnis, Shia AND Wahabbis from BLOWING up Jerusalem and causing World War Fucking 3?

What sort of muslim do you lay claim to anyway?

YEAH, There is some Bullshit in the bible.

YEAH, There is also plenty of Bullshit in the Koran.

http://answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra

That CLOWN in those Terrorist Recruitment videos wants to make Islam look like a Walt Fucking Disney Movie and the Bible Guys look like Darth Vader.

Beware of "Wolves in Sheep Clothing."

blakclight · 12-11-2011, 08:04 PM

believe it or not iam so happy now, that i got u intersted in this discussion..instead of swearing @ eachother..at least we can get some knowledge out of our posts...do u agree!

Quote:

Originally Posted by major seven

Black Light says
"always the weak has nothing to present except wat u just posted , if u have problem with wat he is saying dont balme others for it,, it is yr book that has problems not mine....

M7
Right!
Always the weak has nothing better to do than make some PHONY Videos trashing their Religious COMPETITION.

Try looking at your own PHONY Bullshit religion for a change.

http://answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra

well, i didnt know that qouting or at least getting information from others is considered as weakness...this is new to me. i thought supporting yr sayings with evidences and qoutes is a ascholar manner in a scientific searching. but if u like this way of chatting and expressing our selfs and knowledges, i dont mind at all .
and the website u posted is really made me laugh..coz anything in this world u can use it in the right way or the wrong way. even God in the Quran told this that the people were saying it crazieness, it is a magician words..and all u can imagine but he is directlly challenge them to bring one verse just one verse like it in Arabic which is its miracle at that time and in all times and u can read through it and judge by yr self..i think u r more educated than the bullshit was mentioned in the site., u can use fire in good or in bad things dont u..

Black Light
"so, please if u r a christian and u believe this is yr book, discuss wat he said and prove him wrong if u can, in a respectful way please...
and if u r not a christian y in the hell u put yr nose in something u dont know about..."

M7
So PLEASE, if you are a muslim and you believe the Koran is YOUR Book, discuss what he did NOT say and PROVE him Right if you can.

In a respectful way of course,

OR NOT! Your choice!

i really like quite and polite discussions , so everyone will benifit from it and i never use the other tone or face unless there is disrespectful sayings or actions...
yes iam muslim and i believe Quran is my book...and i dont know wat is request actually, the topic is that bible has mistakes and huge ones and he discussed them in his vids, do u want me to write what he said or do u want to prove from Quran that Bible is deviated from wat Jesus was sent with...and soon ill post a thread about the stories of prphets fom the quran and u can compare yr self but the i think the vids posted earlier did it anyway.
and if u believe in my book which is quran and u agree with proves from it then ill post u the vesrses that showing this clearly...is this what u mean by prove him right

Black Light
and the name is BLAKCLIGHT with the K b4 the C, and its my name, do u have a problem with it...

M7
Yes!!!
You don't know how to spell "BLACK"
really , r u serious in this one...i know the word is misspelled, but the stupid computer wont know that if u have more than one forum to register in with the same nickname...

Black Light
i really wonder y all people avoiding to discuss the core of the videos and instead they attack the lecturer and the carrier,...

M7
The "core of the videos" is to promote more HATRED toward Christians.

The lecturer is merely an UNKEPT MORON, in need of a Hair Cut and a Cool Hat, that is advancing the CORE of the Videos.

i really doubt that major seven u have watched the whole vids, he never pointed any hatred topics or words towards anyone, he was a youth minister and reverted to islam...and he just pointed out the mistakes in the bible that he never understand logically and rationally when he was studying scripture criticism in Bob Jones university, and he studied it all in depth...this is wat all the vids about...just watch it again and dont jusdge the book by the title

Black Light
he pointed many issues in his videos at least bring one issue and discuss it >> but i doubt that yr stupidity which was shown clearly in yr post will prevent u from doing this , so please let other respectful people to discuss these issues and for u go and dig up some porn sites it might charge yr brain with some useful knowledge and promot u to major eight .

this one ill pass on it...coz it is really offensive but u didnt give me much choic there

M7
You muslims have ENOUGH issues of your own, but Your Own STUPIDITY won't let you SEE what they are.

Try focusing on Your OWN Bullshit like,

How are we going to stop Sunni muslims from killing Shia muslims?

How are we going to keep the Wahabbis from BLOWING Up EVERYBODY?

How are we going to stop Sunnis, Shia AND Wahabbis from BLOWING up Jerusalem and causing World War Fucking 3?

What sort of muslim do you lay claim to anyway?

YEAH, There is some Bullshit in the bible.

YEAH, There is also plenty of Bullshit in the Koran.

That CLOWN in those Terrorist Recruitment videos wants to make Islam look like a Walt Fucking Disney Movie and the Bible Guys look like Darth Vader.

Beware of "Wolves in Sheep Clothing."

i really agree with u in this and i never said that we r saints...and shit is happening everywhere ...and iam sunni btw...but always the truth hurts if kept locked...when u see all the unfair attacks and lies forced upon everyone,

dedicate · 12-11-2011, 11:38 PM

A "Fallacy" would be an unreasonable or unsound arguement.
Does the New Testament "argue" for... the worship of one God, Supernatural works of that One ie healing, transmutation, creation and full authority; Or maybe a divine plan as in which both Elija and Elias (John and Jesus) were written of. Angels? Reptile Society? Prophecy! Why would these things still be considered unreasonable?

11-11-2011, 02:43 PM	#2
blackyblue Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Leith Posts: 11,742	I will watch the videos,but can you please give a small run down in your own words the essential ingredients of the message please __________________ ‎"One should never believe everything one reads on the internet." -Abraham Lincoln Last edited by blackyblue; 11-11-2011 at 02:43 PM.

11-11-2011, 02:49 PM	#3
blakclight Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 71	sure ...it shows you how the new testament is not the true book of God and it proves it with tons of evidences..and believe me you will surprised when you see it for the first time because you will know things that never been told before...anywhere .. i mean it. __________________ http://english.islammessage.com/

11-11-2011, 05:03 PM	#5
blakclight Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 71	waymaker...i know that u know alot and believe me i thought i did so, but this guy has something unique in his way of telling and putting things together,, if u r a logic lover (iam one btw) then this guy has great deal of it, and i never saw one like him ( and ive seen alot) strong in evidence and rational in his dealing with things and books, even in Quran he pointed many things i never thought of before.. __________________ http://english.islammessage.com/

11-11-2011, 06:11 PM	#6
waymarker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Plymouth UK Posts: 3,047	I still don't have time to sit through the vids, anyway i skimmed through a couple and got bored. For example right at the start of the last vid the guy says "The nature of God and the nature of Jesus are contradictory" Yet Jesus said - "I have not spoken on my own authority; but the Father who sent me gave me a command, what I should say and what I should speak" (John 12:49) See, Jesus never spoke his own words, he only said what God told him to say, *so there's no contradiction at all!* PS- I wish the guy in the vids would come and debate with us here in the Icke forum if he dare.. Last edited by waymarker; 11-11-2011 at 06:13 PM.

12-11-2011, 09:20 AM	#13
blakclight Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 71	always the weak has nothing to present except wat u just posted , if u have problem with wat he is saying dont balme others for it,, it is yr book that has problems not mine.... so, please if u r a christian and u believe this is yr book, discuss wat he said and prove him wrong if u can, in a respectful way please... and if u r not a christian y in the hell u put yr nose in something u dont know about... and the name is BLAKCLIGHT with the K b4 the C, and its my name, do u have a problem with it... i really wonder y all people avoiding to discuss the core of the videos and instead they attack the lecturer and the carrier,... he pointed many issues in his videos at least bring one issue and discuss it >> but i doubt that yr stupidity which was shown clearly in yr post will prevent u from doing this , so please let other respectful people to discuss these issues and for u go and dig up some porn sites it might charge yr brain with some useful knowledge and promot u to major eight .. __________________ http://english.islammessage.com/ Last edited by blakclight; 12-11-2011 at 09:38 AM.

11-11-2011, 04:14 PM	#4
waymarker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Plymouth UK Posts: 3,047	Them vids total 1 hour 20 mins, I just don't have time to watch them! Anyway even the Koran admits Jesus was a miracle man, and we know that already.. [Koran 2.253] "We have made some of these apostles to excel the others, among them are they to whom Allah spoke, and some of them He exalted by many degrees of rank; and We gave clear miracles to Isa [Jesus] son of Marium [Mary], and strengthened him with the holy spirit..."

12-11-2011, 01:27 PM	#18
major seven Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,320	Black Light says "always the weak has nothing to present except wat u just posted , if u have problem with wat he is saying dont balme others for it,, it is yr book that has problems not mine.... M7 Right! Always the weak has nothing better to do than make some PHONY Videos trashing their Religious COMPETITION. Try looking at your own PHONY Bullshit religion for a change. http://answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra Black Light "so, please if u r a christian and u believe this is yr book, discuss wat he said and prove him wrong if u can, in a respectful way please... and if u r not a christian y in the hell u put yr nose in something u dont know about..." M7 So PLEASE, if you are a muslim and you believe the Koran is YOUR Book, discuss what he did NOT say and PROVE him Right if you can. In a respectful way of course, OR NOT! Your choice! Black Light and the name is BLAKCLIGHT with the K b4 the C, and its my name, do u have a problem with it... M7 Yes!!! You don't know how to spell "BLACK" Not to mention, You Are Before Your Blame What Promote Why Black Light i really wonder y all people avoiding to discuss the core of the videos and instead they attack the lecturer and the carrier,... M7 The "core of the videos" is to promote more HATRED toward Christians. The lecturer is merely an UNKEPT MORON, in need of a Hair Cut and a Cool Hat, that is advancing the CORE of the Videos. Black Light he pointed many issues in his videos at least bring one issue and discuss it >> but i doubt that yr stupidity which was shown clearly in yr post will prevent u from doing this , so please let other respectful people to discuss these issues and for u go and dig up some porn sites it might charge yr brain with some useful knowledge and promot u to major eight . M7 You muslims have ENOUGH issues of your own, but Your Own STUPIDITY won't let you SEE what they are. Try focusing on Your OWN Bullshit like, How are we going to stop Sunni muslims from killing Shia muslims? How are we going to keep the Wahabbis from BLOWING Up EVERYBODY? How are we going to stop Sunnis, Shia AND Wahabbis from BLOWING up Jerusalem and causing World War Fucking 3? What sort of muslim do you lay claim to anyway? YEAH, There is some Bullshit in the bible. YEAH, There is also plenty of Bullshit in the Koran. http://answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra That CLOWN in those Terrorist Recruitment videos wants to make Islam look like a Walt Fucking Disney Movie and the Bible Guys look like Darth Vader. Beware of "Wolves in Sheep Clothing." Last edited by major seven; 12-11-2011 at 07:08 PM.

12-11-2011, 11:38 PM	#20
dedicate Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,265	A "Fallacy" would be an unreasonable or unsound arguement. Does the New Testament "argue" for... the worship of one God, Supernatural works of that One ie healing, transmutation, creation and full authority; Or maybe a divine plan as in which both Elija and Elias (John and Jesus) were written of. Angels? Reptile Society? Prophecy! Why would these things still be considered unreasonable? Last edited by dedicate; 12-11-2011 at 11:44 PM.