The Meaning of 11/11/11

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Magnetic forces are among the most potent power sources in the known universe. And just like the force of (1)gravity, magnetic forces are ever-present, constantly at work, and they have a dramatic impact on our daily lives. In fact, were it not for magnetism and all of its inherent forces, our species would not (could not) exist on this planet.

We owe our existence to magnetism...

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NOW BEING DRAWN IN TO PROVE A POWERFUL FACT AND POINT...

Geomancy, the Chinese were able to create exciting, unique readable patterns that were unmatched by any other civilization of the era. Part of the allure of this practice in China was the fact that the dirt could move 'on its own,' even after it had hit the ground. Subtle shifts in gentle winds, or small vibrations on the ground were enough to cause the stationery dirt to move – right in front of the eyes of beholders...

PEOPLE WERE FORMED IN SUCH THE SAME MANNER... FROM SPACE THEIR DIRTY LITTLE SPIRITS FORMED HERE...

YOUR BEING DIRECTED AND POINTED TO SEE SOMETHING...

NOT BY THE POWERS OF THE ELITE...

BY THE POWERS OF THE UNSEEN...

SHAKE THE GROUND WITH QUAKES...

STIR THE AIR WITH WINDS...

IT TRULY MOVES YOU DIRTY LITTLE SPIRITS IN A CONTROLLED MANNER...



ON A PERSONAL NOTE:

POSTS 4378 THEY DO SPEAK FOR THERE SELF... 22

800 REPLIES ON THIS TOPIC 34,858 VIEWS TO THIS FOCAL POINT OF TRUTH...

22...*8*...1*

The number 22 combines vision with action...

Properties of the number 8

Symbolism

Number of the perfection, the infinity. In mathematics the symbol of the infinity is represented by a 8 laid down.

Symbol of the cosmic Christ.

Number figuring the immutable eternity or the self-destruction. It represents also the final point of the manifestation.

In China, the 8 expresses the totality of the universe.

Number of the balance and of the cosmic order, according to the Egyptians.

Number expressing the matter, it is also the symbol of the incarnation in the matter which becomes itself creative and autonomous, governing its own laws.

The number eight corresponds to the New Testament, according to Ambroise.

It is the symbol of the new Life, the final Resurrection and the anticipated Resurrection that is the baptism.

According to Clement of Alexandria, the Christ places under the sign of 8 the one he made to be born again.

AND SO MUCH MORE...


Number 1 - Beginning, New, Focused concentration, Goal-striving, Action, ...

ADDED TOGETHER IT EQUALS FOUR... FOR ALL FOUR POINTS OF CREATION...

NORTH SOUTH EAST WEST... THAT COVERS EVERYTHING...

LOOK INSIDE AND SEE WHERE IT POINTS...

TO THE SOUTH EAST... GPS

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"Geomancy" is derived from the Latin "geomantia," which in turn is derived from the Greek for "divination by earth." The Arabic name for geomancy, "'ilm al-raml," means "the science of the sand." In its original form, the geomantic figure was created by making lines of random numbers of dots in the sand, hence the name. Medieval European writers agreed that it was also acceptable to draw the dots on a piece of parchment or paper. In keeping with the Arabic origin of geomancy, most writers recommend making the dots from right to left, the direction in which Arabic is written. From the dots or points,


YOU ARE THOSE RANDOM LITTLE DOTS DRAWN IN THE SAND...

THE SAME LITTLE DOTS THAT WERE DRAWN IN THE SAND LONG AGO...

...... CREATED IN PAIRS... A MATED MATCH...

EACH CREATED MATCH HAS THE CHOICE TO WORK WITH ANOTHER AS ONE...


YOU LITTLE DOTS DRAWN IN THE SAND...

ANOTHER DREW IN THE SAND...


FIVE DOTS HE DREW.... FROM THE CENTER OUT...


THE LAW IS SIMPLE...

DO NOT MURDER...
DO NOT STEAL...

HONOR WITH LOVE...


YOUR COURTS HAVE SO MANY BOOKS TRYING TO COVER THIS SMALL LAW...

WHITE COLLAR CRIMES, BLUE COLLAR CRIMES, GOOD MURDER, BAD MURDER...

SO MANY LOOP HOLES YOU MADE FOR YOURSELF...

EACH A HANGMAN'S NOOSE...

THERE IS NO SIDE STEPPING THIS SIMPLE LAW...

LIVE ABBAS WAY OR DO NOT LIVE AT ALL HERE ON THIS EARTH...

ABBA LIVES BY THE SIMPLE TRUTH OF LOVE AND HONOR...

HIS LIGHT...


LOVE IS THE HIGHEST ACHIEVEMENT ABOVE AND BELOW...


CONNECT THE DOTS...

DISCOVER ONES TRUE SELF...


THAT"S WHAT HAPPENS IN THE END...


THE IMAGE DRAWN IN THE SAND BEGAN WITH A CENTER THEN FOUR DOTS AROUND THAT CENTER...

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THEN DRAWN OUT BY CONNECTING THE DOTS THAT IMAGE FORMED WITH SUBSTANCE AND SHAPE... THE IMAGE OF LIFE...

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AS A POET I WRITE TO SHOW MY MIGHT AND WILL...

FROM Raphael (Standard Hebrew רָפָאֵל, Rāfāʾēl, "It is God who heals", "God Heals", "God, Please Heal") is an archangel of Judaism and Christianity, who in the Judeo-Christian tradition performs all manners of healing. In Islam, Raphael is the same as Israfel...

TODAY HER Equilibrium IS OFF... SICK TO HER STOMACH AS WE APPROACH THIS Equinox ...

EV... EQUAL VISION... EQUAL FAMILY... TRUE MATCHES...

THE EQUINOX VIRUS... DO YOU FEEL SICK TO YOUR STOMACH AS Raphael AND I...


MUCH MORE TO COME...

[oiram]

WE SHALL FORBID CHRIST

2. At the same time we shall not omit to emphasize the historical mistakes of the GOY governments which have tormented humanity for so many centuries by their lack of understanding of everything that constitutes the true good of humanity in their chase after fantastic schemes of social blessings, and have never noticed that these schemes kept on producing a worse and never a better state of the universal relations which are the basis of human life ....

3. The whole force of our principles and methods will lie in the fact that we shall present them and expound them as a splendid contrast to the dead and decomposed old order of things in social life.

4. Our philosophers will discuss all the shortcomings of the various beliefs of the "GOYIM," BUT NO ONE WILL EVER BRING UNDER DISCUSSION OUR FAITH FROM ITS TRUE POINT OF VIEW SINCE THIS WILL BE FULLY LEARNED BY NONE SAVE OURS WHO WILL NEVER DARE TO BETRAY ITS SECRETS.

5. IN COUNTRIES KNOWN AS PROGRESSIVE AND ENLIGHTENED WE HAVE CREATED A SENSELESS, FILTHY, ABOMINABLE LITERATURE. For some time after our entrance to power we shall continue to encourage its existence in order to provide a telling relief by contrast to the speeches, party program, which will be distributed from exalted quarters of ours .... Our wise men, trained to become leaders of the GOYIM, will compose speeches, projects, memoirs, articles, which will be used by us to influence the minds of the GOYIM, directing them towards such understanding and forms of knowledge as have been determined by us.

WE SHALL CHANGE HISTORY

4. Classicism as also any form of study of ancient history, in which there are more bad than good examples, we shall replace with the study of the program of the future. We shall erase from the memory of men all facts of previous centuries which are undesirable to us, and leave only those which depict all the errors of the government of the GOYIM. The study of practical life, of the obligations of order, of the relations of people one to another, of avoiding bad and selfish examples, which spread the infection of evil, and similar questions of an educative nature, will stand in the forefront of the teaching program, which will be drawn up on a separate plan for each calling or state of life, in no wise generalizing the teaching. This treatment of the question has special importance.

5. Each state of life must be trained within strict limits corresponding to its destination and work in life. The OCCASIONAL GENIUS HAS ALWAYS MANAGED AND ALWAYS WILL MANAGE TO SLIP THROUGH INTO OTHER STATES OF LIFE, BUT IT IS THE MOST PERFECT FOLLY FOR THE SAKE OF THIS RARE OCCASIONAL GENIUS TO LET THROUGH INTO RANKS FOREIGN TO THEM THE UNTALENTED WHO THUS ROB OF THEIR PLACES WHO BELONG TO THOSE RANKS BY BIRTH OR EMPLOYMENT. YOU KNOW YOURSELVES IN WHAT ALL THIS HAS ENDED FOR THE "GOYIM" WHO ALLOWED THIS CRYING ABSURDITY.

6. In order that he who rules may be seated firmly in the hearts and minds of his subjects it is necessary for the time of his activity to instruct the whole nation in the schools and on the market places about this meaning and his acts and all his beneficent initiatives.

7. We shall abolish every kind of freedom of instruction. Learners of all ages have the right to assemble together with their parents in the educational establishments as it were in a club: during these assemblies, on holidays, teachers will read what will pass as free lectures on questions of human relations, of the laws of examples, of the philosophy of new theories not yet declared to the world. These theories will be raised by us to the stage of a dogma of faith as a traditional stage towards our faith. On the completion of this exposition of our program of action in the present and the future I will read you the principles of these theories.

8. In a word, knowing by the experience of many centuries that people live and are guided by ideas, that these ideas are imbibed by people only by the aid of education provided with equal success for all ages of growth, but of course by varying methods, we shall swallow up and confiscate to our own use the last scintilla of independence of thought, which we have for long past been directing towards subjects and ideas useful for us. The system of bridling thought is already at work in the so-called system of teaching by OBJECT LESSONS, the purpose of which is to turn the GOYIM into unthinking submissive brutes waiting for things to be presented before their eyes in order to form an idea of them .... In France, one of our best agents, Bourgeois, has already made public a new program of teaching by object lessons.
http://www.aztlan.net/protocols.htm

[oiram]

Originally Posted by radziox

No one said anything about being a vending machine. What this video explained is the repeatable analogy behind prayer in EVERY religion. Muslims appear to be just as convinced as Christians that allah is helping them in their lives and so on. Its about the chance of prayer getting answered, which is equal in every religion ( even thou Christianity is supposed to be the only true one ).

Keep praying then! I'm sure he will fill up your account one day.



In regards of Muslims they could add 2 more sessions to the 5 they got already a day to make it work better.

Prayer will not do shit if people don't act personally & change there ways physically from inside out.

The true God is not a Hollywood God.

Good people don't need to pray; its the ass holes which need to pray & fast from the corrupt world; so they wake up to reality & change there own ways from inside out.


Indonesia 90% Muslims Prays 5 times a day & its the most corrupt country in the world liars everywhere; hypocrites of the finest sort...... how is this for prayers.

Prayers without self action is like a car without tires!

Also when the people pray who are they praying to ..... there is not one of these prayers which ever explained me who God is in reality.

Some look up into the sky & pray; others kiss the floor, some talking to monuments, some talking to timber crosses, some talking to temples, some talking to a wall & none of these prayers can explain who God is & what his representation is.... So who or what are they praying too??? That's right they don't freaking know!!

So what's about the base rule to not make yourself any idols? ..... forgot expose .... no idols of timber, stone, sky, walls, waters, buildings, Bush, Obama or Pope..etc

Why people don't ever listen to the true words? ....
no they just listen to there rotten lying leaders ..... Which are telling them that they are sinners since birth so they keep coming back to there churches to fill there pockets with coins & notes.

Here is the true reason why they telling you that you are all sinners: So you keep filling up these bags permanently:




God is only the instructor with words; he [it] will not push your own car; its you who needs to do the pushing; its you who needs to learn; its you who has to understand reality within you, its you who can help others.


Here is your instruction clear to a blind man .... but most don't listen & love to stay blind in there minds.

You all want to pray? .... then truly pray; talk to your friends help them to understand reality ... that's the true praying.
Give your knowledge & wisdom to others help those which are in need of true words & help those which are sick in there hearts & minds.

"If your leaders say to you, "Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky," then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, "It is in the sea," then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you.

6. His disciples asked him and said to him, "Do you want us to fast? How should we pray? Should we give to charity? What diet should we observe?"

Jesus said, "Don't lie, and don't do what you hate, because all things are disclosed before heaven. After all, there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed, and there is nothing covered up that will remain undisclosed."


14. Jesus said to them, "If you fast, you will bring sin upon yourselves, and if you pray, you will be condemned, and if you give to charity, you will harm your spirits.

When you go into any region and walk about in the countryside, when people take you in, eat what they serve you and heal the sick among them.

After all, what goes into your mouth will not defile you; rather, it's what comes out of your mouth that will defile you."

104. They said to Jesus, "Come, let us pray today, and let us fast."

Jesus said, "What sin have I committed, or how have I been undone? Rather, when the groom leaves the bridal suite, then let people fast and pray."

"Behold, I shall depart from you and go away, and do not wish to remain with you any longer, just as your yourselves have not wished it. Now, therefore, follow me quickly. This is why I say unto you, "For your sakes I came down." You are the beloved; you are they who will be the cause of life in many. Invoke the Father, implore God often, and he will give to you. Blessed is he who has seen you with Him when He was proclaimed among the angels, and glorified among the saints; yours is life. Rejoice, and be glad, as sons of God. Keep his will, that you may be saved; accept reproof from me and save yourselves. I intercede on your behalf with the Father, and he will forgive you much." .... http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/jam.html

I just prayed with this post to all of you!!!

Yes correct God is not a vending machine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by that one guy

Hallelujah! I logged in just to say that this is quite an awesome post!

If the Christian god is all-knowing then why pray? Self-satisfaction? It is a strange practice where clasping your hands together is the big way these days to communicate with the Christian god. Does the Christian god not know what you want unless you clap your hands together?

Continuing, I can't stress enough that it's not about god or any force in control of the Cosmos. It's everyone's own life and so they should take the reins. If the Christian god exists, it's clear he/she has taken a much more passive stance than in the OT/NT and will not intervene like he/she supposedly used to. That and -AGAIN- this all-knowing being would know what people desire without them clasping their hands in some odd communication with the spirits.

Silly question, but wouldn't be just as effective (and more amusing) to talk to the Christian god on the telephone?

Really, unless people pray for something silly and simple like an orange falling out of an orange tree, while you stand in front of the tree, then prayer/good result correlation tend to be lower than action/good result correlation.

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Actually, I take that back because action/good result correlation is higher when you personally take the oranges off of the tree.

This post was foretold by a prophecy.

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Lets evaluate this one just for fun>>>

What could this mean & what does it tell us & tells me?

“Both read the Bible day and night, But thou read'st black where I read white.”

60. He saw a Samaritan carrying a lamb and going to Judea. He said to his disciples, "that person ... around the lamb." They said to him, "So that he may kill it and eat it.
"He said to them, "He will not eat it while it is alive, but only after he has killed it and it has become a carcass."

They said, "Otherwise he can't do it." >>>

He said to them, "So also with you, seek for yourselves a place for rest, or you might become a carcass and be eaten."


Well what this tells me is this!

He will not eat anything which is "alive!"

Now the logic comes ......

Also means that he will not kill the lamb himself; so the lamb would logically never turn into a carcass by his own hands! Because of the base rule!

Also this has two hidden meanings within the spoken words ..... once that person ended up killing the lamb; not only the lamb turned into a carcass but the killer too!! .....
& then Jesus will eat the killer for breakfast by telling him who he really is; because he clearly did not follow the Human base rule!!!

I see the second hidden message within also ...... throughout the entire scripture when it is referring to anything with the word "alive" it refers to a Spirit being!!


Now if the other person would ended up killing the lamb & calls him later on to eat with him; he still would not eat the killed lamb ........ Why??


Because for starters Jesus is not a killer! ...... also Jesus would not share the table with any killers naturally!

Hint >>>>> Was Jesus not referred to as being the lamb??


Why? ..... Because there is a base rule Jesus is following; which says clearly "Thou Shalt Not Kill!"
I could also say it like this >>> "Thou Shalt Not Turn anything Alive into a carcass; either themselves or others!"

So if Jesus "can't do it." & others would listen to his spoken words carefully & would use there logical God given brain or just following Jesuses lead & teachings; the lamb would logically never end up a carcass before its natural time out.


So what is the "rest" referring too? ......
To think about it logically first what your are doing! The "rest" is being active 24/7 within your spiritual mind in silence & resulting external actions or none actions.

Rest = rest from the World & inner Spiritual wisdom & knowledge reflection within.

86. Jesus said, "[Foxes have] their dens and birds have their nests, but human beings have no place to lay down and rest." >> 24/7


End of story!

Clear to a child 7 years old!! >>>
but apparently not to the so called book following Christians & all other Religious followers walking around in this world of killers ....
or may even being the "Lamb" killers themselves turning things which are alive into a carcass ..... including themselves!!!



Mat 13:35
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables ; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

Names given to the worldly are very deceptive, for they divert our thoughts from what is correct to what is incorrect. Thus one who hears the word "God" does not perceive what is correct, but perceives what is incorrect. So also with "the Father" and "the Son" and "the Holy Spirit" and "life" and "light" and "resurrection" and "the Church (Ekklesia)" and all the rest - people do not perceive what is correct but they perceive what is incorrect, unless they have come to know what is correct. The names which are heard are in the world [...] deceive. If they were in the Aeon (eternal realm), they would at no time be used as names in the world. Nor were they set among worldly things. They have an end in the Aeon.

Truth did not come into the world naked, but it came in types and images. The world will not receive truth in any other way. There is a rebirth and an image of rebirth. It is certainly necessary to be born again through the image. Which one? Resurrection. The image must rise again through the image. The bridal chamber and the image must enter through the image into the truth: this is the restoration. Not only must those who produce the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, do so, but have produced them for you. If one does not acquire them, the name ("Christian") will also be taken from him. But one receives the unction of the [...] of the power of the cross. This power the apostles called "the right and the left." For this person is no longer a Christian but a Christ.
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gop.html

My Personal notes:
Woe, Woe, Woe Perfect Again!.... To many times to just be coincidental.
Are my actions connected, related or synchronized with Symbolic number meanings?
My Posting No. 5741 = 17 what does it say Symbolically?
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu17.php

Properties of the number 17

Symbolism
Number of the Son of Man, according to Abellio.

Represent the action of the evolution on the Cosmos and its tendency to the karmic liberation, 1 + 7 = 8, according to R. Allendy.

Symbol of the man participating to both worlds, celestial and terrestrial, according to Prevorst. Henry Blanquart goes in the same way telling that it "represents the junction between the material world and the spiritual world".

About this number, saint Augustin declares: "In the number seventeen as in its multiples we find an admirable sacrament".

Seventeen restores the harmony after the fights of the existence. It is the image of the initiate who has succeeded his interior marriage.

According to Guy Tarade, it is the number of the Holy Spirit.

According to the Book of the Balance of Jâbir Ibn Hayyân, alchimist and Sufi, the form (sura) of any thing in the world is 17; the number 17 represents the base of the theory of the Balance and has to be considered as the rule of the balance of each thing.

Ominous number for Italians, as the number 13 in Occident. Thus, in Italy, there is no bedroom 17, no 17th floor, etc., this because of the number 17 that in Roman number is written XVII, considered as the anagram and the numerical value of the Latin expression VIXI that means "I lived" therefore by extension "I am dead".
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu17.php

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Yes so much truth you give oiram...

The name christian is a temporary name until one discovers his own name...

Becoming a christian is your first step in finding your own name...

From the un-numbered to the numbered to the named...

There are truly millions of christians all sharing in the name...

There are many examples of this within the holy books...

Saul is the most profound... He was evil and hated all christians until the night he took on the name... Saul became a christian then he began his work to achieve his own name... As he helped others he built the foundation of himself...

Saul became Paul... From the numbered to the named...


My name now is celt...


Christs everlasting living truth...

It pours from my mouth...

So many hypocrites that believe they are christian... By stealing this name they are nothing but thieves covering themselves in a white sake cloth... Cloaked in white but inside they are dark...


I call my true christians those that now are teaching others what they have found here...

The rest are thieves... AND WILL LOSE THE POSITION THEY FILL AS A CHRISTIAN... YOU HYPOCRITES THAT STEAL AND MURDER IN THE NAME OF CHRISTIANS ARE NO BETTER THAN SATAN HIMSELF... AND WILL BE STRIPPED AS SATAN WAS...

PEACE

PRAY IF YOU LIKE AND DO IT IN PRIVATE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS... AWAY FROM THE THIEVES THAT CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS...

PRAY FOR ANOTHER TO SEE AND HEAR AS YOU... GIVE THEM WHAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO YOU... THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE LIVING CHRIST...

WHAT"S YOUR NAME? YOUR NAME GIVEN IN THE BEGINNING? IT IS THE SAME NOW...

IT IS YOUR CONNECTION TO CREATION HOW YOUR LITTLE DOT BECAME NUMBERED AND NAMED...

THIS FINAL SEAL IS YOUR GOD GIVEN NAME...

AGAIN HOW MANY KNOW THEIR NAME?

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seen these the other day

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ANOTHER CME TARGETS EARTH: Sunspot AR1429 has unleashed another strong flare, an M6-class eruption on March 9th at 0358 UT. The blast hurled a coronal mass ejection almost directly toward Earth. According to analysts at the Goddard Space Weather Lab, the CME will arrive on March 11th at 0649 UT (+/- 7 hr). NOAA forecasters say the odds of a strong geomagnetic storm at that time is 50%.

The same eruption that hurled the CME toward Earth also produced a monsterous tsunami of plasma on the sun. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory recorded the shadowy but powerful wave rippling away from the blast site:

M6.3 Solar Flare & Earth DIRECTED CME March 9, 2012 - YouTube

M6.3 Solar Flare & Earth DIRECTED CME March 9, 2012 - YouTube

THIS ONE IS A LITTLE WEAKER BUT IT"S AIM IS DIRECTED DIRECTLY AT US...

SO MUCH MORE TO COME...

ENJOY THE SHOW...

AND FOR YOUR ENJOYMENT... A SONG TO WAIT IT OUT WITH...

Pat Green - Wave On Wave - YouTube

Pat Green - Wave On Wave - YouTube

GPS= WHAT?

IF YOU DON"T FIND THIS PERSONAL SPOT THEN THIS SONG IS JUST FOR YOU HYPOCRITES AND THIEVES THE MURDERERS OF TRUTH...

Johnny Cash - God's Gonna Cut You Down - YouTube

Johnny Cash - God's Gonna Cut You Down - YouTube

REMEMBER THE WAVES OF TRUTH AS YOU LEAVE THIS HOLY PLACE OF REST...

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ELEVEN VIEWING THIS MAGICAL SPOT... / /... MAKING THEIR WAY TO BEING FULLY AWAKENED TO WHAT THEY SEE... l l ... MOVING TO THE LEFT FROM RIGHT WHERE THEY ARE NOW SEEKING TO SEE WHAT NONE HAVE SEEN BEFORE...

THE LORD... THE MASTERMIND BEHIND THIS ROCK THE SCHOOL HOUSE OF CHRIST... THOSE THAT CHOSE LONG AGO TO BECOME CHRIST-LIKE...

FROM THE LEFT FROM THE RIGHT...

FROM THE DARK SIDE FROM THE SIDE OF LIGHT...

FROM THE FAR EXTREME TO THE MOST HUMBLE OF THEM ALL...

THE V..... THAT BLAST OF LIGHT THE LIGHT OF THE PHOENIX...

AS A REMEMBER IT WAS SAW ON THE NEWS AND NAMED SUCH...

LIKE A FOX ON CHANNEL TEN NEWS... THE TRUTH PROVES ITSELF AND THAT"S WHAT I INTEND TO DO...

BY MY SPIRIT THAT FILLS THIS UNIVERSE...



The strange blast was caught on tape and aired live during Andrea Robinson report, pictured next to her head...

THIS EARTH IS A SCHOOL HOUSE... AND ALL OF IT IS USABLE TO TEACH...

I TRULY HOPE YOU HYPOCRITES AND DENIERS SEE THE LIGHT NEXT TO YOUR HEAD AND ACCEPT IT IN YOUR MINDS...

THE LIVING WORD TO YOU DEAD...

PHOENIX LIGHTS: Mysterious Light Flashes During Traffic in Phoenix?! - YouTube

PHOENIX LIGHTS: Mysterious Light Flashes During Traffic in Phoenix?! - YouTube

The unexplained explosion grows very quickly, illuminating the sky before disappearing again...




But when FOX 10 checked with local utility providers APS and Salt River Project, they were told no transformers had blown in the area. Officials in Phoenix have been left stumped by the incident. And while the sudden bright explosion of light remains a mystery, it comes just days before the 15th anniversary of a famous UFO sighting in the city.

The earlier sighting was attributed to military flares dropped by fighter aircraft at Luke Air Force Base and the 2008 incident was caused by flares attached to helium balloons released by a civilian.

On March 13, 1997, a cluster of glowing orbs moving in a V-shaped formation was spotted in the skies above Phoenix, reports Yahoo News.

The light formation, which was also caught on film and is known as the 'Phoenix Lights', has analyzed and debated ever since. The lights were reported to have reappeared again in 2007 and 2008, but these events were quickly explained.


Arizona is also home to Travis Walton, who famously claimed to have been abducted by a UFO in 1975. Walton has written a number of books on the subject, and his story was turned into the 1993 film 'Fire in the Sky'.

FOX 10 has called on the public to get in touch with possible explanations for the sudden explosion.

GPS= WHERE AND WHAT... NOW YOU HAVE THE EXPLANATION THAT HAS BAFFLED SCIENTISTS SINCE THE V FORMATION FORMED...

THERE ARE ANGELS OF LIGHT... AND ANGELS OF DARKNESS...

WHAT KIND OF ANGEL ARE YOU?


ARE YOU CONNECTING THE DOTS... IT IS A ELEMENTARY SKILL USED TO TEACH IN GRAMMAR SCHOOL... TO LEARN WORDS....


GPS=?

GODS PERSONAL SPIRIT... CHRIST HIMSELF IN PERSON... FROM THIS SPOT I WRITE... DO I LIE?

THE LIVING WORD... WOULD ONE REALLY DELIVER... HIS PROMISE...


THAT"S THE QUESTION THAT WILL PROVE ITSELF...

[oiram]

Originally Posted by decode reality

That's very true. It's a lot like when someone says 'I love you' but they don't really mean it!

The spoken word Love is a big lie & means nothing!..... Love felled through the action by another is the truth of love.

If someone says I know you love me; its confirmed; because you must have truly felled it; to say so.

The giver of love doesn't speak the word "Love". Only the receiver of love confirms his feelings & knowledge by using the word "Love".

A bit like the word "believe" (its a lie in reality) .... its stupid to say I believe I do the right thing.

Once your action gets confirmed by another that's the true confirmation & believe has no meaning at all after any witness confirmed your action by saying so.


So the word "Love" is not a word to describe an action towards another; but is a word used to confirm the action by another towards you!

"Love your friends like your own soul, protect them like the pupil of your eye."

Protect them like the pupil of your eye = protecting is a action & in most cases results in returning Love.

You have to give first to receive Love....... No Love without implemented actions first!!



Another word is the word "friend" ...... you can not force a friendship onto another by saying I AM your friend ....... friendships are offered only by the one which likes to have you as a friend for a reason of received feelings; by saying do you like to be my friend.

In this world all is reversed & a lie because of wrong teachings, self serving arrogance & egos!


Does this makes sense to anyone??


I AM that I AM & I show you who I AM by what I AM doing!! ...... & not by what I AM saying that I AM!


Here again a 100% prove that it is action which counts to talk about Love!
107. Jesus said, "The (Father"s) kingdom is like a shepherd who had a hundred sheep. One of them, the largest, went astray. He left the ninety-nine and looked for the one until he found it. After he had toiled, he said to the sheep, "I love you more than the ninety-nine.""

Why did he loved the one more then the ninety-nine?? .......
Because it was his action in the moment which confirmed his love towards the one in need which proves the "Love towards another"!


That's why the once which say they love God or Jesus are proven liars; because where is there physical prove of action & lying will not score you love points! ... Like 1 + 1 = 2

They cant even act accordantly to the below by outright opposing such actions ..... no they even vote for them so they can kill some more by there approval through there voting! >>>




Regarding the Op's starter post ......
No we are not all ONE .... we are all individuals .... only in spirit we could be one if we all act accordantly to the spirit instruction on an individual base!

The spirit does not kill .... so if all spirit beings have the same base instruction then yes are action would be One united consciousness & spiritual action even so we are all individuals.


Same as with the word Love .... One true love in action.
Its the joint action which creates the all is ONE! ...... ONE true Love, one true word, one true & only action.

But to become one the individual has to recognise the Spirit within first! >>>
there are only about 10% on earth which know there Spirit within & the rest of the flock is still astray in the wilderness!
Only if the once which already know there spirit within give love through action towards the sheep which are astray can this problem ever be solved.

That's the true meaning of loving your enemy. ......
help them to find there spirit within (help them to find there way back home to the original garden where they have come from in the beginning) through helping actions & good works!



The final touch on this..... the two greatest commandments from all others:

The helping hand:
these are the physical word replacements for the keywords used in the verses:

Love = action = acting = help, helping = teaching
Lord = Life = living = being a spiritual living Human being.
God = the true Words = the Word of truth
Jesus = the (your) Spirit within = the spirit of the seven virgin characteristics in Heaven = (heaven is within your spirit mind) = the true kingdom of the true word (God) within.
Christ = Christlike = all the above in ONE = the Cross = teaching life with the true words by using your logical spiritual mind set.


“You shall love the Lord your God with your whole heart, with your whole soul, and with all your mind” (Deuteronomy 6:5).
“This is the greatest and first commandment.

The second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ (Leviticus 19:18).




And no one gets to the fathers kingdom except through me! .... no matter what religion he follows!

And no one gets to the fathers kingdom except through his logical Spirit mind! ...... No ONE! >>>>Who is & always was Jesus?? ... 1 + 1 = 2

Do I give love to my neighbors; do I know the truth? ...... You are my witnesses its not for me to say as I explained on the start of this post!!

You are twisting it in your own mind somehow!

The receiving end will not give out any request forms!
The giver does not know what the receiving end truly feels within until a true reaction happened which will create a response not a request!
This would not make you the receiver of love; but the acting requester of love!

Don't forget the true spirit mind is invisible towards others .... & if you manipulate others you would be a liar to yourself!

If I don't understand you wrong here you are forcing an action from some one by a request to give a response. That's like forcing a friendship onto someone.

This would make you the manipulator. I don't see the jump through hoops logic.

Sorry .... think about it a bit more in detail!


Agreed & is correct! ..... in truth you only can be one at a time ... either you are the giver .... or you are the responding receiver no third option in the real Spirit world!
IMHO, true love cannot/should not be manipulated in any form or fashion from the receiving or giving end.

That's why it is called unconditional Love...... you give & don't expect anything in return..... & if there is a natural response that's what is called true Love.

Nowhere to be found at present on earth!

But one thing is fact & the life we live in right now ..... if no one gives there will be no love .... this is our world right now because everyone only requests & takes!


Exactly!!! >> the world of Satan & the whore Lilith.....

[chip1]

SO TRUE... LOVE IS WITNESSED OR THERE IS NO LOVE AT ALL...

TO GIVE IS THE ACTION... RECIEVING IS THE WITNESS...

TESTIMONY AND WITNESSED...

TAKEN AND USED...

IT TAKES TWO TO LOVE...

Acceptance

[oiram]

Originally Posted by sb9726

do you think TBTB are trying to encourage a soceity of single solo units living in apartments? using only the internet for a means of communication and porn as a way for sex? with selfishness and individuality encouraged,

Nothing wrong with being single, selfish or a introvert if it does not hurt others physically!

Never forget who is number one in this world ...... if you not happy with yourself no one around you will be happy with you....

Is selfishness not something which gets regularly pointed out by these third party's which can not profit from you in any way any more?

Selfishness is good for me; but not good for those which can not get nothing out of you for there own selfish materialistic profiting agenda.

How many call you friend but you never offered them to be your friend? .... tonnes right!


Evil has so called friends & lots of them for there self serving usury control over others agenda game>>>>
True Humans don't have or need friends; they have a partner ..... or a so called soul mate.


I am on my own for the last 18 years.

I'm maybe alone but never lonely if I don't choose to be.

Needing a friend is different to having a friend! .... needs have the danger of being exploited by others!

Individuality does not mean you will not communicate with others (quite the opposite). All it means you know yourself with confidence.


In the case of porn? ......
well its getting very boring after a while......
All in the open no kind of mystery or imagination in it.
I rather see a nicely dressed person than a person being in the nude on the beach 24/7.

Porn turns you into a nobody; changing your partners like it was nothing turns you into a nobody........ fact!

Try it change your partner 10 times a week & do this for a month & you will see how boring it gets........ Same thing with porn ..... boring shit & nothing personal or special in it.

Porn after a while will loss you all your self respect & the respect towards others.... fact!

That's why these rich people are never happy ever ; because all & everything gets boring so quickly. >> also the reason for some of them to do up normal things; so they get there continuously repeating boringness stimulated with more & more crazy things.

But true feelings, sharing, self control & a nice imagination never gets boring ever....



Oh yes they trying to encourage you for these things al-right:
In the case of TPTB its promoting division, separation, none communication, egos, ignorance, arrogance, hate, conflicts & consequently rejection by others and loneliness ....... and that's the real problem & there original agenda game.


Here is the TPTB agenda & anti /Humans anti Christ implementations >>>

OUR GOAL - WORLD POWER
5. TO SECURE THIS WE MUST HAVE EVERYBODY VOTE WITHOUT DISTINCTION OF CLASSES AND QUALIFICATIONS, in order to establish an absolute majority, which cannot be got from the educated propertied classes. In this way, by inculcating in all a sense of self-importance, we shall destroy among the GOYIM the importance of the family and its educational value and remove the possibility of individual minds splitting off, for the mob, handled by us, will not let them come to the front nor even give them a hearing; it is accustomed to listen to us only who pay it for obedience and attention. In this way we shall create a blind, mighty force which will never be in a position to move in any direction without the guidance of our agents set at its head by us as leaders of the mob. The people will submit to this regime because it will know that upon these leaders will depend its earnings, gratifications and the receipt of all kinds of benefits.

MIGHT IS RIGHT

12. Our right lies in force. The word "right" is an abstract thought and proved by nothing. The word means no more than: Give me what I want in order that thereby I may have a proof that I am stronger than you.

13. Where does right begin? Where does it end?

14. In any State in which there is a bad organization of authority, an impersonality of laws and of the rulers who have lost their personality amid the flood of rights ever multiplying out of liberalism, I find a new right - to attack by the right of the strong, and to scatter to the winds all existing forces of order and regulation, to reconstruct all institutions and to become the sovereign lord of those who have left to us the rights of their power by laying them down voluntarily in their liberalism.

15. Our power in the present tottering condition of all forms of power will be more invincible than any other, because it will remain invisible until the moment when it has gained such strength that no cunning can any longer undermine it.

16. Out of the temporary evil we are now compelled to commit will emerge the good of an unshakable rule, which will restore the regular course of the machinery of the national life, brought to naught by liberalism. The result justifies the means. Let us, however, in our plans, direct our attention not so much to what is good and moral as to what is necessary and useful.

17. Before us is a plan in which is laid down strategically the line from which we cannot deviate without running the risk of seeing the labor of many centuries brought to naught.

18. In order to elaborate satisfactory forms of action it is necessary to have regard to the rascality, the slackness, the instability of the mob, its lack of capacity to understand and respect the conditions of its own life, or its own welfare. It must be understood that the might of a mob is blind, senseless and unreasoning force ever at the mercy of a suggestion from any side. The blind cannot lead the blind without bringing them into the abyss; consequently, members of the mob, upstarts from the people even though they should be as a genius for wisdom, yet having no understanding of the political, cannot come forward as leaders of the mob without bringing the whole nation to ruin.

19. Only one trained from childhood for independent rule can have understanding of the words that can be made up of the political alphabet.

20. A people left to itself, i.e., to upstarts from its midst, brings itself to ruin by party dissensions excited by the pursuit of power and honors and the disorders arising therefrom. Is it possible for the masses of the people calmly and without petty jealousies to form judgment, to deal with the affairs of the country, which cannot be mixed up with personal interest? Can they defend themselves from an external foe? It is unthinkable; for a plan broken up into as many parts as there are heads in the mob, loses all homogeneity, and thereby becomes unintelligible and impossible of execution.

WE SHALL FORBID CHRIST

2. At the same time we shall not omit to emphasize the historical mistakes of the GOY governments which have tormented humanity for so many centuries by their lack of understanding of everything that constitutes the true good of humanity in their chase after fantastic schemes of social blessings, and have never noticed that these schemes kept on producing a worse and never a better state of the universal relations which are the basis of human life ....

3. The whole force of our principles and methods will lie in the fact that we shall present them and expound them as a splendid contrast to the dead and decomposed old order of things in social life.

4. Our philosophers will discuss all the shortcomings of the various beliefs of the "GOYIM," BUT NO ONE WILL EVER BRING UNDER DISCUSSION OUR FAITH FROM ITS TRUE POINT OF VIEW SINCE THIS WILL BE FULLY LEARNED BY NONE SAVE OURS WHO WILL NEVER DARE TO BETRAY ITS SECRETS.

5. IN COUNTRIES KNOWN AS PROGRESSIVE AND ENLIGHTENED WE HAVE CREATED A SENSELESS, FILTHY, ABOMINABLE LITERATURE. For some time after our entrance to power we shall continue to encourage its existence in order to provide a telling relief by contrast to the speeches, party program, which will be distributed from exalted quarters of ours .... Our wise men, trained to become leaders of the GOYIM, will compose speeches, projects, memoirs, articles, which will be used by us to influence the minds of the GOYIM, directing them towards such understanding and forms of knowledge as have been determined by us.

PROTOCOL No. 23

1. That the peoples may become accustomed to obedience it is necessary to inculcate lessons of humility and therefore to reduce the production of articles of luxury. By this we shall improve morals which have been debased by emulation in the sphere of luxury. We shall reestablish small master production which will mean laying a mine under the private capital of manufactures. This is indispensable also for the reason that manufacturers on the grand scale often move, though not always consciously, the thoughts of the masses in directions against the government. A people of small masters knows nothing of unemployment and this binds him closely with existing order, and consequently with the firmness of authority. For us its part will have been played out the moment authority is transferred into our hands. Drunkenness also will be prohibited by law and punishable as a crime against humanness of man who is turned into a brute under the influence of alcohol.

WE SHALL ENSLAVE GENTILES

6. At the same time we must intensively patronize trade and industry, but, first and foremost, speculation, the part played by which is to provide a counterpoise to industry: the absence of speculative industry will multiply capital in private hands and will serve to restore agriculture by freeing the land from indebtedness to the land banks. What we want is that industry should drain off from the land both labor and capital and by means of speculation transfer into our hands all the money of the world, and thereby throw all the GOYIM into the ranks of the proletariat. Then the GOYIM will bow down before us, if for no other reason but to get the right to exist.

7. To complete the ruin of the industry of the GOYIM we shall bring to the assistance of speculation the luxury which we have developed among the GOYIM, that greedy demand for luxury which is swallowing up everything. WE SHALL RAISE THE RATE OF WAGES WHICH, HOWEVER, WILL NOT BRING ANY ADVANTAGE TO THE WORKERS, FOR, AT THE SAME TIME, WE SHALL PRODUCE A RISE IN PRICES OF THE FIRST NECESSARIES OF LIFE, ALLEGING THAT IT ARISES FROM THE DECLINE OF AGRICULTURE AND CATTLE-BREEDING: WE SHALL FURTHER UNDERMINE ARTFULLY AND DEEPLY SOURCES OF PRODUCTION, BY ACCUSTOMING THE WORKERS TO ANARCHY AND TO DRUNKENNESS AND SIDE BY SIDE THEREWITH TAKING ALL MEASURE TO EXTIRPATE FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH ALL THE EDUCATED FORCES OF THE "GOYIM."

8. IN ORDER THAT THE TRUE MEANING OF THINGS MAY NOT STRIKE THE "GOYIM" BEFORE THE PROPER TIME WE SHALL MASK IT UNDER AN ALLEGED ARDENT DESIRE TO SERVE THE WORKING CLASSES AND THE GREAT PRINCIPLES OF POLITICAL ECONOMY ABOUT WHICH OUR ECONOMIC THEORIES ARE CARRYING ON AN ENERGETIC PROPAGANDA
http://www.aztlan.net/protocols.htm

[chip1]

Yes today the spiritual flood gates open fully...

Your ears should be screaming and your throat should be a little on the sore side...

Enjoy the show...

Today was and is a day of rest set a side to be with family...

The door is also open for family...

From the sounds of it things are beginning to rise...

Piercing so something good must be coming...

What"s good for one is not so good for another...

Familyvfamily...

From two sides one good one comes out...

V...

[oiram]

March 4, 2012
Did Jeff Rense Post
the Stone Fukushima Thesis, and then remove it??

and if he did, why?


http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/blackmail.html

Feb 17 at 9.00 am, on Les Visibles site,

Bruce Hayden said... Les, let me set the record straight about the Jim Stone 'Domona 'article. It was put up at rense.com for a very brief time. That is where I first came across it. My memory is infallible on this point. By the time I gave it a quick read and clicked on most of the links it was gone.

Fortunately, I remembered the link: www.jimstonefreelance.com. I've read it numerous times since then and can find little fault with what I consider to be a plausible theory that needs to be examined more closely by a greater number of people. It matters not if it was a nuke or HAARP that caused the tsunami.

The smoking gun lies in comparing the structural damage caused by a 6.9/7.2 quake in Kobe in 1995 to the total lack of such in Sendai. Never mind that the Israeli security company set up the security for reactor #3 (the one with the MOX fuel) and high-tailed it back to Israel a week before the nuclear explosion from that reactor. All the damage was cuased by the tsunami and not the earthquake! How do all of you naysayers explain that simple fact? You can't that's why! There is more than a little food for thought in this piece. Rense's view notwithstanding.

A 9.0 is 100 times as powerful as a 7.0! I would truly like to see a refutation of this article by qualified people! The circumstantial evidence for Stone's thesis is more than a little overwhelming, in my opinion.


James Farganne adds:

The real smoking guns are the explosion of Reactor 4 (offline for refueling) and the presence of Stuxnet. Stone's report clearly stipulates that the tsunami was not responsible for the reactors' destruction.

Don Adds:

This is in response to the article posted on 3/4/12 pasted below. I live in Washington State and there has been a lot of research into what will happen when the Cascadia Subduction Zone breaks. It is estimated that a magnitude 9 earthquake will be the result and will cause damage in Seattle, Vancouver BC, and Portland. The damage estimated when such a quake happens is far more than the supposed 9.0 magnitude quake that hit Japan on 3/11. The link is 3 of 5 parts and puts into perspective what will happen when a real 9.0 magnitude earthquake hits. Tokyo should have sustained quake damage if it was a 9.0 quake.



March 4, 2012

Did Jeff Rense Post
the Stone Fukushima Thesis, and then remove it?
and if he did, why?

Cascadian Megaquake 3 of 5 - YouTube

Cascadian Megaquake 3 of 5 - YouTube

It's about 9 minutes long.

Did New York Orchestrate The Asian Tsunami?

There are 4 more related videos that explain how a subduction zone earthquake happens. The videos use the Sumatran quake and tsunami of 2004 as an example, which reminded me of articles written by Joe Vialls in 2005. Maybe Fukushima was the second such quake?

Joe died or was murdered shortly after writing this: http://www.reformation.org/joevialls.html
http://www.henrymakow.com/




The image is interesting .... its it not? ..... connecting the dotes!!!
Jakarta bomb blast at Australian embassy

Bali (Kuta) Indonesia

http://vkb.isvg.org/Wiki/Groups/Darul_Islam

Jakarta bomb blast at Australian embassy

by lowem » Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:08 am

"Doc, wait a minute. doc ... are you telling me, this sucker's NUCLEAR??!"
- Michael J. Fox, "Back from the Future"

I'm not going to put my neck out there and say it's nuclear, but that's a pretty tall mushroom cloud there. What I'd really like to know is, if there are any military experts here, roughly how many kg TNT equivalent would that be??

Initial reports - the crater is 3m deep, blast heard 3 miles away, skyscrapers had their windows blown off up to 12 storeys high.

And for the "numerologically-inclined" folks, this is a couple of days to the next 9/11 anniversary, and that's *about* 1093 days after 9/11/2001, give or take a couple of time zones or so. Hmmph.
http://peakoil.com/forums/jakarta-bomb-blast-at-australian-embassy-t1577.html

Note : Joe Vialls doesn't count. He's already blamed a Mossad/CIA "Micro-Nuke" for the Jakarta Marriot bombing, the Bali bombing, the Baghdad Hotel bombing...

By the way, the smallest nuclear weapon ever made was the W54 physics package on the US's 1950's weapon, the Davy Crockett. It was not popular with the soldiers, as the maximum range of the smallest launcher was a little over a mile. It was even less popular with the politicians, who soon realised that giving a Colonel the ability to start a nuclear war was a Bad Idea(tm). It was deployed from 1961 to 1971.

Just in case anyone gives Joe's interesting theories any credence, his favourite film clip is of the SADM, withdrawn from service as late as 1989 (and using the same physics package as the Davy Crockett). Note also that because of the nature of really small nuclear weapons, the initial radiation is very dangerous compared with all other effects. Anyone within 150 metres of such an explosion would collapse immediately and die within hours at most.

There's lots of data available online about suitcase nukes, and nuclear weapons generally. Not that they has anything to do with the Jakarta bombing, any more than the CIA, Mossad, or Santa Claus do.
http://aebrain.blogspot.com/2004/09/todays-quick-quiz.html

Friday, March 11, 2011
Explosive WikiLeaks Cables Expose Yudhoyono

US embassy in Jakarta has serious doubts about the Indonesian president's own integrity


When Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono won a surprise victory in Indonesia's 2004 presidential elections, the United States Embassy in Jakarta hailed it as "a remarkable triumph of a popular, articulate figure against a rival [incumbent president Megawati Sukarnoputri] with more power, money, and connections."

The former army general and security minister has gone on to win international accolades for strengthening governance, promoting economic reform, and his efforts to suppress the Islamic militant group Jemaah Islamiyah.

While visiting Jakarta last November, US President Barack Obama applauded Indonesia's democracy and "the leadership of my good friend President Yudhoyono."

However Yudhoyono's record may have to be reviewed after secret US embassy cables, leaked to WikiLeaks and provided to Fairfax Media, reveal allegations of corruption and abuse of power that extend all the way to the presidential palace.

According to the diplomatic cables, Yudhoyono, widely known by his initials SBY, personally intervened to influence prosecutors and judges to protect corrupt political figures and put pressure on his adversaries. He reportedly also used the Indonesian intelligence service to spy on rivals and, on at least one occasion, a senior minister in his own government.

Yudhoyono's former vice-president reportedly paid out millions of dollars to buy control of Indonesia's largest political party, while the President's wife and her family have allegedly moved to enrich themselves on the basis of their political connections.

The US embassy's political reporting, much of it classified "Secret/NoForn" – meaning for American eyes only — makes clear that the continuing influence of money politics, which extends, despite the President's public commitment to combating corruption, to Yudhoyono himself.

The US embassy cables reveal that one of Yudhoyono's early presidential actions was to personally intervene in the case of Taufik Kiemas, the husband of former president Megawati Sukarnoputri. Taufik reportedly used his continuing control of his wife's Indonesian Democratic Party (PDI-P) to broker protection from prosecution for what the US diplomats described as "legendary corruption during his wife's tenure."

Taufik has been publicly accused, though without charges being laid against him, of improper dealings in massive infrastructure projects heavily tainted with corruption. He is believed to have profited from deals relating to the US$2.3billion Jakarta Outer Ring Road project, the US$2.4 billion double-track railway project from Merak in West Java to Banyuwangi in East Java, the US$2.3billion trans-Kalimantan highway, and the US$1.7 billion trans-Papua highway.
http://kerrycollison.blogspot.com/2011/03/explosive-wikileaks-cables-expose.html

[oiram]

Originally Posted by kitabatake

EDIT: PREFACE: I will be discussing the nature of the Cosmos from the view of the bible at some points and from the view of Lucifer at others. I am not contradicting myself in any way.

Fine ..... so could we consider this? >>> because this way things would totally make sense! .... IMO!


Who was the real God (God Impersonator) which gave the instruction in the story; in reality? >>>
& who was the Serpent in reality? .... after the Demiurge called the Serpent "Beast" helping Adam & Eve to enquire knowledge!
(well he helped by trickery in the circumstance; but what would you not do to get a good result?)

That's right a true God would not wehold knowledge logical!

So you concluded Lucifer is the good guy? ... OK!

Lucifer = Serpent = the one who helped Adam & Eve = he was called Beast afterwards by the Demiurge being totally pissed for helping Adam & Eve to open there eyes to reality which would make them understand who the evil really is & was! .... OK!



Never forget in the world of Evil everything is reversed .... everything! .... Like 1 + 1 = 2

Yaldabaoth up in the tree with Cain in his arm, pointing his dirty left finger at them; ....
saying don't you eat from this tree ... else!!>>


(YALDABAOTH) = Satan, Demiurge, SAMAEL, SACLAS

Yaldabaoth modeled his creation
On the pattern of the original realms above him
So that it might be just like the indestructible realms.

[Not that he had ever seen the indestructible ones.
Rather, the power in him, deriving from his mother,
made him aware of the pattern of the cosmos above.]

When he gazed upon his creation surrounding him
He said to his host of demons
The ones who had come forth out of him:
“I am a jealous God and there is no God but me!”

[But by doing this he admitted to his demons that there is indeed another God.
For, if there were no other God, whom would he possibly be jealous of?]

His mother began to move back and forth
Because she had become aware that she now lacked Light
For her brightness had dimmed.

[Since her consort had not approved of her actions, she grew darker]


[He is ignorant darkness.
When the Light mingled into the darkness
the darkness shone.
When darkness mixed with the Light,
the Light diminished,
No longer Light nor darkness but dim.]

This dim ruler has three names:
Yaldabaoth is the first.
Saklas is the second.
Samael is the third.
He is blasphemous through his thoughtlessness.
He said “I am God, and there is no God but me!”
Since he didn’t know where his own Power originated.

His rulers created seven Authorities for themselves.
Each of these Authorities created six demons apiece,
There came to be 365 demons altogether.
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Yaldabaoth raped Eve.
She bore two sons.

<Elohim was the name of the first.
Yahweh was the name of the second.
Elohim has a bear’s face.
Yahweh has a cat’s face.
One is righteous;
One is not.
Yahweh is righteous;
Elohim is not.
Yahweh would command fire and wind
Elohim would command water and earth.>

Yaldabaoth deceptively named the two: Cain and Abel. >>>>> Cain/Elohim and Abel/Yahweh
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn-davies.html

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The Apocryphon of John
(The Secret Book of John - The Secret Revelation of John)
"And when the light had mixed with the darkness, it caused the darkness to shine. And when the darkness had mixed with the light, it darkened the light and it became neither light nor dark, but it became dim.

"Now the archon who is weak has three names. The first name is Yaltabaoth, the second is Saklas, and the third is Samael. And he is impious in his arrogance which is in him. For he said, 'I am God and there is no other God beside me,' for he is ignorant of his strength, the place from which he had come.

"And the archons created seven powers for themselves, and the powers created for themselves six angels for each one until they became 365 angels. And these are the bodies belonging with the names: the first is Athoth, a he has a sheep's face; the second is Eloaiou, he has a donkey's face; the third is Astaphaios, he has a hyena's face; the fourth is Yao, he has a serpent's face with seven heads; the fifth is Sabaoth, he has a dragon's face; the sixth is Adonin, he had a monkey's face; the seventh is Sabbede, he has a shining fire-face. This is the sevenness of the week.
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn.html

The Hypostasis of the Archons
(The Reality of the Rulers)
On account of the reality of the authorities, (inspired) by the spirit of the father of truth, the great apostle - referring to the "authorities of the darkness" - told us that "our contest is not against flesh and blood; rather, the authorities of the universe and the spirits of wickedness." I have sent this (to you) because you inquire about the reality of the authorities.

Their chief is blind; because of his power and his ignorance and his arrogance he said, with his power, "It is I who am God; there is none apart from me." When he said this, he sinned against the entirety. And this speech got up to incorruptibility; then there was a voice that came forth from incorruptibility, saying, "You are mistaken, Samael" - which is, "god of the blind."

His thoughts became blind. And, having expelled his power - that is, the blasphemy he had spoken - he pursued it down to chaos and the abyss, his mother, at the instigation of Pistis Sophia. And she established each of his offspring in conformity with its power - after the pattern of the realms that are above, for by starting from the invisible world the visible world was invented.
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/hypostas.html

On the Origin of the World

Next, let me say that once the rulers had seen him and the female creature who was with him erring ignorantly like beasts, they were very glad. When they learned that the immortal man was not going to neglect them, rather that they would even have to fear the female creature that had turned into a tree, they were disturbed, and said, "Perhaps this is the true man - this being who has brought a fog upon us and has taught us that she who was soiled is like him - and so we shall be conquered!"

Then the seven of them together laid plans. They came up to Adam and Eve timidly: they said to him, "The fruit of all the trees created for you in Paradise shall be eaten; but as for the tree of knowledge, control yourselves and do not eat from it. If you eat, you will die." Having imparted great fear to them, they withdrew up to their authorities.

Then came the wisest of all creatures, who was called Beast. And when he saw the likeness of their mother Eve he said to her, "What did God say to you? Was it 'Do not eat from the tree of knowledge'?" She said, "He said not only, 'Do not eat from it', but, 'Do not touch it, lest you die.'" He said to her, "Do not be afraid. In death you shall not die. For he knows that when you eat from it, your intellect will become sober and you will come to be like gods, recognizing the difference that obtains between evil men and good ones. Indeed, it was in jealousy that he said this to you, so that you would not eat from it."

Now the production of the instructor came about as follows. When Sophia let fall a droplet of light, it flowed onto the water, and immediately a human being appeared, being androgynous. That droplet she molded first as a female body. Afterwards, using the body she molded it in the likeness of the mother, which had appeared. And he finished it in twelve months. An androgynous human being was produced, whom the Greeks call Hermaphrodites; and whose mother the Hebrews call Eve of Life (Zoe), namely, the female instructor of life. Her offspring is the creature that is lord. Afterwards, the authorities called it "Beast", so that it might lead astray their modelled creatures. The interpretation of "the beast" is "the instructor". For it was found to be the wisest of all beings.
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html

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The Gospel According to Mary Magdalene
25) Peter said to him, Since you have explained everything to us, tell us this also: What is the sin of the world?
26) The Savior said There is no sin , but it is you who make sin when you do the things that are like the nature of adultery, which is called sin.

11) The Savior answered and said, He does not see through the soul nor through the spirit, but the mind that is between the two that is what sees the vision and it is [...]
http://www.gnosis.org/library/marygosp.htm

The Second Treatise of the Great Seth
Now these things I have presented to you - I am Jesus Christ, the Son of Man (My note: within you) , who is exalted above the heavens - O perfect and incorruptible ones, because of the incorruptible and perfect mystery and the ineffable one. But they think that we decreed them before the foundation of the world, in order that, when we emerge from the places of the world, we may present there the symbols of incorruption from the spiritual union unto knowledge. You do not know it, because the fleshly cloud overshadows you. But I alone am the friend of Sophia. I have been in the bosom of the father from the beginning, in the place of the sons of the truth, and the Greatness. Rest then with me, my fellow spirits and my brothers, forever.

It was not possible for them to know who the Father of Truth, the Man of the Greatness, is. But they who received the name because of contact with ignorance - which (is) a burning and a vessel - having created it to destroy Adam, whom they had made, in order to cover up those who are theirs in the same way. But they, the archons, those of the place of Yaldabaoth, reveal the realm of the angels, which humanity was seeking in order that they may not know the Man of Truth. For Adam, whom they had formed, appeared to them. And a fearful motion came about throughout their entire dwelling, lest the angels surrounding them rebel. For without those who were offering praise - I did not really die lest their archangel become empty.

And then a voice - of the Cosmocrator - came to the angels: "I am God and there is no other beside me." But I laughed joyfully when I examined his empty glory. But he went on to say, "Who is man?" And the entire host of his angels, who had seen Adam and his dwelling, were laughing at his smallness. And thus did their Ennoia come to be removed outside the Majesty of the heavens, i.e.,the Man of Truth, whose name they saw since he is in a small dwelling place, since they are small (and) senseless in their empty Ennoia, namely their laughter. It was contagion for them.
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/2seth.html

[chip1]

And the government steps in not...

The places hit by the tornado"s last week fema denies them help...

Help one another is not in their writing...

The states are to appeal then they are warned if you do other money will be with held...

Yeah vote for obama again...

Nothing but evil from that hill...

Peace...

HARRISBURG, Ill. — The federal government has denied a request for assistance for victims of the tornado that hit Harrisburg and Ridgway, Ill., on Feb. 29 and left seven people dead.

In a letter dated March 10, FEMA Administrator W. Craig Fugate responded to Gov. Pat Quinn’s March 7 request for disaster aid.

“Based on our review of all of the information available, it has been determined that the damage was not of such severity and magnitude as to be beyond the capabilities of the State, affected local governments, and voluntary agencies,” Fugate wrote. “Accordingly, we have determined that supplemental Federal assistance is not necessary. Therefore, I must inform you that your request for a major disaster declaration is denied.”

In a joint statement posted on website of U.S. Sen. Mark Kirk, he and Sen. Dick Durbin called the decision “unacceptable” and called for a meeting between members of the Illinois Congressional Delegation and the FEMA Administrator to discuss the State of Illinois’ appeal of this decision.

“This decision by FEMA is unacceptable and out of touch with the reality that residents of Harrisburg, Ridgway and the surrounding areas are facing as the storm clean-up continues,” the senators said in the statement. “We fully support the appeal that Governor Quinn is putting together ….

“The damage from the storms in Southern Illinois is among the worst our state has seen in recent years. Federal funding is greatly needed to help residents and families rebuild and we will continue working to see that these communities are made whole again.”

On Thursday, the entire Illinois Congressional delegation sent a letter to President Barack Obama asking him to issue a major disaster declaration for Illinois, specifically seeking relief for Gallatin, Randolph, Saline, Union, and Williamson counties “due to the storms and tornadoes that ravaged the area leaving local governments, charitable organizations, voluntary agencies and evacuees taking on the initial costs of the disasters,” according to the statement on Kirk’s web site.

YES FEMA IS OUT OF TOUCH AND UNACCEPTABLE.... AS ARE IT"S LEADERS... YEAH VOTE THEM IN AGAIN


NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- It affects everything from mortgages to credit cards to student loans, and now some of the world's biggest banks are at the center of a criminal investigation into whether they manipulated it for their own benefit.

NOW THAT IS A SURE WASTE OF TAX DOLLARS... OF COARSE THEY MANIPULATED IT... AGAIN VOTE FOR THEM THAT INSURES THESE CORRUPT CORPORATIONS STAY CORRUPT...

Banks trying to appear stronger and more creditworthy may have been tempted to submit lower numbers, particularly during the financial crisis.
In addition, if the banks coordinated their submissions, they could adjust trading positions tied to Libor in order to profit from their advanced knowledge of its movements.

"The banks involved in this were largely trusted by the public to be setting these rates in a fair way -- it was supposed to be a transparent measure of the cost of borrowing," said Arun Subramanian, a lawyer representing plaintiffs involved in the civil litigation. "To the extent that the banks were colluding to manipulate these rates, everyone was harmed and the public trust was violated." Key Wall Street reform rule under fire No banks have been formally accused of wrongdoing in the United States.

SO IN FACT NOT ONE BANK IS TRULY UNDER INVESTIGATION...

Gas prices top $3.80 a gallon...

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The national average price for a gallon of gasoline rose above the $3.80 mark Monday, resuming the advance that has plagued drivers throughout the winter. The average price rose nine-tenths of a cent, according to the survey of gas stations conducted for the motorist group AAA. It was the third straight advance, with prices gaining 3.4 cents a gallon over Saturday and Sunday.


HERE THE INVESTIGATION SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON THE REASON FOR THIS... WHY?

ANOTHER GREEDY CORPORATION AND THE SUPPLIERS...

IT TRULY IS NOT HARD TO JUDGE THE EVIL UPON THIS EARTH... THEY STAND OUT...

ARE YOU A PART OF THIS EVIL? IF SO YOU WILL BE CUT DOWN AS THEY ARE...

[oiram]

Originally Posted by jesusistruth

You do know that you are only fighting against a misconception of the Bible, and a misconcepted, imaginiary God?

The Lake of fire is not separation from God. It is the presence of God.

The (Lake of fire) is not separation from God. It is the presence of God. >>

Fire and Brimstone = (The Words of God (in truth)) = Speaking the Words of truth.

Fire = Sacred Fire = true Words spoken = Words of true knowledge & true wisdom = The Sword of The Spirit - The Word of God expressed by the true Words spoken!

Waters = the People

Water = Lake = People

And he walked in the midst of the Waters = and he walked in the midst of the People

The Flood = the flood of truth = words of truth spoken everywhere = the trumpets are sounding >>

The Pit = the Pit within your head knowing every single evil you have ever committed = is right in your head being in conflict with all your lies & evil deeds burning you up from inside out ..... because the flood of true words (by the people [Waters]) is all around you! ... Hence the flood of Noah.

[It was not the way Moses said: “they hid in an ark.”
Rather, they hid in a special place,
Not just Noah
but also many other people from the immovable race.
They went into hiding within a cloud of light.]
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn-davies.html

Lake of fire = the true word spoken by the people = exposing all lies by speaking up in truth!

Well that's my logical conclusion & understanding....... step by step all starts to make logical sense & all the writings of our wise forefathers is not such a mystery any more!!!



The Sword of The Spirit - The Word of God
Eph 6:10-17 (NIV) ...Be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armour of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore put on the full armour of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled round your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.
Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

The Secret Supper - The Book of John the Evangelist
And the Son of God shall bring forth the elect out of the midst of the sinners and say unto them: Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. Then shall he say unto the sinners: Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, which was prepared for the devil and his angels. And the rest, beholding the last cutting off, shall cast the sinners into hell by the commandment of the invisible Father. Then shall the spirits of them that believe not go forth out of the prisons, and then shall my voice be heard, and there shall be one fold and one shepherd: and the darkness and obscurity shall come forth out of the lower parts of the earth -that is to say, the darkness of the gehenna of fire- and shall burn all things from below even to the air of the firmament. And the Lord shall be in the firmament and even to the lower parts of the earth. (read And the distance from the firmament unto the lower parts of the earth shall be) as if a man of thirty years old should take up a stone and cast it down, hardly in three years would it reach the bottom: so great is the depth of the pit and of the fire wherein the sinners shall dwell. And then shall Satan and all his host be bound and cast into the lake of fire. And the Son of God shall walk with his elect above the firmament and shall shut up the devil, binding him with strong chains that cannot be loosed. At that time the sinners, weeping and mourning, shall say: O earth, swallow us up and cover us in death. And then shall the righteous shine as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. And he shall bring them before the throne of the invisible Father, saying: Behold, I and my children whom God hath given me. O righteous one, the world hath not known thee, but I have known thee in truth, because thou hast sent me. And then shall the Father answer his Son and say: My beloved Son, sit thou on my right hand until I make thine enemies the footstool of thy feet, which have denied me and said: We are gods, and beside us there is none other god: which have slain thy prophets and persecuted thy righteous ones, and thou hast persecuted them even unto the outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
http://www.gnosis.org/library/Interrogatio_Johannis.html

Hyppolitus: Refutation of All Heresies
You shall escape the boiling flood of hell's eternal lake of fire and the eye ever fixed in menacing glare of fallen angels chained in Tartarus as punishment for their sins; and you shall escape the worm that ceaselessly coils for food around the body whose scum has bred it. Now such (torments) as these shall thou avoid by being instructed in a knowledge of the true God. And thou shalt possess an immortal body, even one placed beyond the possibility of corruption, just like the soul. And thou shalt receive the kingdom of heaven, thou who, whilst thou didst sojourn in this life, didst know the Celestial King. And thou shalt be a companion of the Deity, and a co-heir with Christ, no longer enslaved by lusts or passions, and never again wasted by disease. For thou hast become God: for whatever sufferings thou didst undergo while being a man, these He gave to thee, because thou wast of mortal mould, but whatever it is consistent with God to impart, these God has promised to bestow upon thee, because thou hast been deified, and begotten unto immortality. This constitutes the import of the proverb, "Know thyself;" i.e., discover God within thyself, for He has formed thee after His own image.
http://www.gnosis.org/library/hyp_refut10.htm

CHAP. XXVIII.--THE DISTINCTION TO BE MADE BETWEEN THE RIGHTEOUS AND THE WICKED. THE FUTURE APOSTASY IN THE TIME OF ANTI-CHRIST, AND THE END OF THE WORLD.
2. And for this reason the apostle says: "Because they received not the love of God, that they might be saved, therefore God shall also send them the operation of error, that they may believe a lie, that they all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but consented to unrighteousness."(1) For when he (Antichrist) is come, and of his own accord concentrates in his own person the apostasy, and accomplishes whatever he shall do according to his own will and choice, sitting also in the temple of God, so that his dupes may adore him as the Christ; wherefore also shall he deservedly "be cast into the lake of fire:"(2) [this will happen according to divine appointment], God by His prescience foreseeing all this, and at the proper time sending such a man, "that they may believe a lie, that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but consented to unrighteousness;" whose coming John has thus described in the Apocalypse: "And the beast which I had seen was like unto a leopard, and his feet as of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion; and the dragon conferred his own power upon him, and his throne, and great might.
http://www.gnosis.org/library/advh5.htm

[oiram]

Playing around with some words!

TEITAN

"TEITAN" in the Greek Beta Code system equals 666 (300+5+10+300+1+50), which reduces to 18, which reduces to 9


The following 38 words can be made from the letters in teitan:

1. ain 2. ait 3. ane 4. ani 5. ant
6. ante 7. anti 8. ate 9. att 10. eat
11. entia 12. eta 13. etna 14. nae 15. neat
16. net 17. nett 18. nit 19. nite 20. tae
21. tain 22. taint 23. tan 24. tat 25. tate
26. tea 27. teat 28. ten 29. tenia 30. tent
31. tet 32. tie 33. tin 34. tine 35. tinea
36. tint 37. tit 38. titan


The following 15 words can be made from the letters in titan:

1. ain 2. ait 3. ani 4. ant 5. anti
6. att 7. nit 8. tain 9. taint 10. tan
11. tat 12. tin 13. tint 14. tit 15. titan


"EUANQAS" in the Greek Beta Code system equals 666 (5+400+1+50+9+1+200), which reduces to 18, which reduces to 9

The following 32 words can be made from the letters in euanqas:

1. aas 2. ana 3. anas 4. ane 5. anes
6. ansa 7. ansae 8. anus 9. aqua 10. aquae
11. aquas 12. asea 13. eau 14. ens 15. nae
16. nausea 17. nus 18. qua 19. quean 20. queans
21. sae 22. sane 23. sau 24. sauna 25. sea
26. sen 27. sue 28. sun 29. suq 30. uns
31. use 32. usnea

"LATEINOS" in the Greek Beta Code system equals 666 (30+1+300+5+10+50+70+200), which reduces to 18, which reduces to 9

The following 380 words can be made from the letters in lateinos:

1. aeon 2. aeons 3. ail 4. ails 5. ain
6. ains 7. ais 8. aisle 9. ait 10. aits
11. ale 12. ales 13. alien 14. aliens 15. aline
16. alines 17. alist 18. alit 19. aloe 20. aloes
21. aloin 22. aloins 23. alone 24. als 25. also
26. alt 27. alto 28. altos 29. alts 30. ane
31. anes 32. ani 33. anil 34. anile 35. anils
36. anis 37. anise 38. anisole 39. anole 40. anoles
41. ant 42. ante 43. antes 44. anti 45. antis
46. ants 47. ate 48. ates 49. atone 50. atones
51. atonies 52. east 53. eat 54. eats 55. elain
56. elains 57. elan 58. elans 59. elastin 60. elation
61. elations 62. elint 63. elints 64. eloin 65. eloins
66. els 67. enlist 68. enol 69. enols 70. ens
71. entail 72. entails 73. entia 74. entoil 75. entoils
76. eolian 77. eon 78. eons 79. eosin 80. eta
81. etalon 82. etalons 83. etas 84. etna 85. etnas
86. ilea 87. inlet 88. inlets 89. ins 90. inset
91. insolate 92. insole 93. instal 94. into 95. ion
96. ions 97. iota 98. iotas 99. isle 100. islet
101. isolate 102. istle 103. its 104. lain 105. lane
106. lanes 107. lanose 108. las 109. lase 110. last
111. lat 112. late 113. laten 114. latens 115. lati
116. latino 117. latinos 118. lats 119. lea 120. lean
121. leans 122. leant 123. leas 124. least 125. lei
126. leis 127. lenis 128. leno 129. lenos 130. lens
131. lent 132. lento 133. lentos 134. les 135. lesion
136. lest 137. let 138. lets 139. liane 140. lianes
141. lie 142. lien 143. liens 144. lies 145. lin
146. line 147. lines 148. lino 149. linos 150. lins
151. lint 152. lints 153. lion 154. lions 155. lis
156. list 157. listen 158. lit 159. litas 160. lite
161. lits 162. loan 163. loans 164. loin 165. loins
166. lone 167. lose 168. lost 169. lot 170. lota
171. lotas 172. loti 173. lots 174. nae 175. nail
176. nails 177. nailset 178. naoi 179. naos 180. nates
181. neat 182. neats 183. neist 184. nest 185. net
186. nets 187. nil 188. nils 189. nit 190. nite
191. nites 192. nits 193. noel 194. noels 195. noes
196. noil 197. noils 198. noise 199. nos 200. nose
201. not 202. nota 203. notal 204. note 205. notes
206. oast 207. oat 208. oaten 209. oats 210. oes
211. oil 212. oils 213. ole 214. olea 215. olein
216. oleins 217. oles 218. one 219. ones 220. ons
221. onset 222. ose 223. osteal 224. ostia 225. sae
226. sail 227. sain 228. saint 229. sal 230. sale
231. salient 232. saline 233. salon 234. salt 235. saltie
236. saltine 237. sane 238. santo 239. santol 240. sat
241. sate 242. sati 243. satin 244. sea 245. seal
246. seat 247. sei 248. seitan 249. sel 250. sen
251. sent 252. senti 253. set 254. seta 255. setal
256. seton 257. sial 258. silane 259. silent 260. silo
261. silt 262. sin 263. sine 264. sit 265. site
266. slain 267. slainte 268. slant 269. slat 270. slate
271. slit 272. sloe 273. slot 274. snail 275. snit
276. snot 277. soil 278. sol 279. sola 280. solan
281. solate 282. sole 283. solei 284. soli 285. son
286. sone 287. sot 288. stain 289. stale 290. stane
291. stanol 292. steal 293. stein 294. stela 295. stelai
296. steno 297. stile 298. stoa 299. stoae 300. stoai
301. stole 302. stolen 303. stone 304. tae 305. tael
306. taels 307. tail 308. tails 309. tain 310. tains
311. tale 312. tales 313. tali 314. talion 315. talions
316. talon 317. talons 318. tan 319. tans 320. tao
321. taos 322. tas 323. tea 324. teal 325. teals
326. teas 327. tel 328. tela 329. telia 330. teloi
331. telos 332. tels 333. telson 334. ten 335. tenail
336. tenails 337. tenia 338. tenias 339. tens 340. tesla
341. tie 342. ties 343. til 344. tile 345. tiles
346. tils 347. tin 348. tine 349. tinea 350. tineal
351. tineas 352. tines 353. tins 354. tinsel 355. tis
356. tisane 357. toe 358. toea 359. toeas 360. toenail
361. toenails 362. toes 363. toil 364. toile 365. toiles
366. toils 367. tola 368. tolan 369. tolane 370. tolanes
371. tolans 372. tolas 373. tole 374. toles 375. ton
376. tonal 377. tone 378. tones 379. tons 380. tonsil

Lateinos - [Greek] In the Latin form, Latium Latinus, and Lateo, means "to lie hid". From the Chaldean word Lat, "to lie hid". In Latopols, today Esneh, a city in Egypt, the fish Latus was worshipped beside the Egyptian Minerva. Apollos mother-wife in Greek was called Leto, or in Doric, Lato, feminine of Lat. The Roman name signifies "the lamenter of Lat". In Borrows Gypsies in Spain, or Zincali, vol. ii. p.113, "This image grim, whose name was LAUT, Bold Mahmoud found when he took Sumnaut." Virgil makes Latinus the 3rd in descent from Saturn and contemporary with Eneas (Eneid, lib. vii. 11 pp. 45-49)
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/resources/two-babylons/l/lateinos.html

CHAP. XXX.--ALTHOUGH CERTAIN AS TO THE NUMBER OF THE NAME OF ANTICHRIST, YET WE SHOULD COME TO NO RASH CONCLUSIONS AS TO THE NAME ITSELF, BECAUSE THIS NUMBER IS CAPABLE OF BEING FITTED TO MANY NAMES. REASONS FOR THIS POINT BEING RESERVED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT. ANTICHRIST'S REIGN AND DEATH.

1. Such, then, being the state of the case, and this number being found in all the most approved and ancient copies(3) [of the Apocalypse], and those men who saw John face to face bearing their testimony [to it]; while reason also leads us to conclude that the number of the name of the beast, [if reckoned] according to the Greek mode of calculation by the [value of] the letters contained in it, will amount to six hundred and sixty and six; that is, the number of tens shall be equal to that of the hundreds, and the number of hundreds equal to that of the units (for that number which [expresses] the digit six being adhered to throughout, indicates the recapitulations of that apostasy, taken in its full extent, which occurred at the beginning, during the intermediate periods, and which shall take place at the end),--I do not know how it is that some have erred following the ordinary mode of speech, and have vitiated the middle number in the name, deducting the amount of fifty from it, so that instead of six decads they will have it that there is but one. [I am inclined to think that this occurred through the fault of the copyists, as is wont to happen, since numbers also are expressed by letters; so that the Greek letter which expresses the number sixty was easily expanded into the letter Iota of the Greeks.](4) Others then received this reading without examination; some in their simplicity, and upon their own responsibility, making use of this number expressing one decad; while some, in their inexperience, have ventured to seek out a name which should contain the erroneous and spurious number. Now, as regards those who have done this in simplicity, and without evil intent, we are at liberty to assume that pardon will be granted them by God. But as for those who, for the sake of vainglory, lay it down for certain that names containing the spurious number are to be accepted, and affirm that this name, hit upon by themselves, is that of him who is to come; such persons shall not come forth without loss, because they have led into error both themselves and those who confided in them. Now, in the first place, it is loss to wander from the truth, and to imagine that as being the case which is not; then again, as there shall be no light punishment [inflicted] upon him who either adds or subtracts anything from the Scripture,(1) under that such a person must necessarily fall. Moreover, another danger, by no means trifling, shall overtake those who falsely presume that they know the name of Antichrist. For if these men assume one [number], when this [Antichrist] shall come having another, they will be easily led away by him, as supposing him not to be the expected one, who must be guarded against.

2. These men, therefore, ought to learn [what really is the state of the case], and go back to the true number of the name, that they be not reckoned among false prophets. But, knowing the sure number declared by Scripture, that is, six hundred sixty and six, let them await, in the first place, the division of the kingdom into ten; then, in the next place, when these kings are reigning, and beginning to set their affairs in order, and advance their kingdom, [let them learn] to acknowledge that he who shall come claiming the kingdom for himself, and shall terrify those men of whom we have been speaking, having a name containing the aforesaid number, is truly the abomination of desolation. This, too, the apostle affirms: "When they shall say, Peace and safety, then sudden destruction shall come upon them."(2) And Jeremiah does not merely point out his sudden coming, but he even indicates the tribe from which he shall come, where he says, "We shall hear the voice of his swift horses from Dan; the whole earth shall be moved by the voice of the neighing of his galloping horses: he shall also come and devour the earth, and the fulness thereof, the city also, and they that dwell therein."(3) This, too, is the reason that this tribe is not reckoned in the Apocalypse along with those which are saved.(4)

3. It is therefore more certain, and less hazardous, to await the fulfilment of the prophecy, than to be making surmises, and casting about for any names that may present themselves, inasmuch as many names can be found possessing the number mentioned; and the same question will, after all, remain unsolved. For if there are many names found possessing this number, it will be asked which among them shall the coming man bear. It is not through a want of names containing the number of that name that I say this, but on account of the fear of God, and zeal for the truth: for the name Evanthas (EUANQAS) contains the required number, but I make no allegation regarding it. Then also Lateinos (LATEINOS) has the number six hundred and sixty-six; and it is a very probable [solution], this being the name of the last kingdom [of the four seen by Daniel]. For the Latins are they who at present bear rule5) I will not, however, make any boast over this [coincidence]. Teitan too, (TEITAN, the first syllable being written with the two Greek vowels e and i), among all the names which are found among us, is rather worthy of credit. For it has in itself the predicted number, and is composed of six letters, each syllable containing three letters; and [the word itself] is ancient, and removed from ordinary use; for among our kings we find none bearing this name Titan, nor have any of the idols which are worshipped in public among the Greeks and barbarians this appellation. Among many persons, too, this name is accounted divine, so that even the sun is termed "Titan" by those who do now possess [the rule]. This word, too, contains a certain outward appearance of vengeance, and of one inflicting merited punishment because he (Antichrist) pretends that he vindicates the oppressed.(6) And besides this, it is an ancient name, one worthy of credit, of royal dignity, and still further, a name belonging to a tyrant. Inasmuch, then, as this name "Titan" has so much to recommend it, there is a strong degree of probability, that from among the many [names suggested], we infer, that perchance he who is to come shall be called "Titan." We will not, however, incur the risk of pronouncing positively as to the name of Antichrist; for if it were necessary that his name should be distinctly revealed in this present time, it would have been announced by him who beheld the apocalyptic vision. For that was seen no very long time since, but almost in our day, towards the end of Domitian's reign.

4. But he indicates the number of the name now, that when this man comes we may avoid him, being aware who he is: the name, however, is suppressed, because it is not worthy of being proclaimed by the Holy Spirit. For if it had been declared by Him, he (Antichrist) might perhaps continue for a long period. But now as "he was, and is not, and shall ascend out of the abyss, and goes into perdition,"(1) as one who has no existence; so neither has his name been declared, for the name of that which does not exist is not proclaimed. But when this Antichrist shall have devastated all things in this world, he will reign for three years and six months, and sit in the temple at Jerusalem; and then the Lord will come from heaven in the clouds, in the glory of the Father, sending this man and those who follow him into the lake of fire; but bringing in for the righteous the times of the kingdom, that is, the rest, the hallowed seventh day; and restoring to Abraham the promised inheritance, in which kingdom the Lord declared, that "many coming from the east and from the west should sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob."(2)
http://www.gnosis.org/library/advh5.htm

All just coincidental?
Crazy like numbers giving me messeges .... * * * *My Posting No. 5766 = 24 & a 66 ...... 24 = 6 & a 66 = 666

[oiram]

Originally Posted by ohme

This message resonates with the same Message Jesus gave:

The principle was alive before Jesus.

I would say no! ..... the first day truth was created within the spirit mind, spoken & implemented was the virgin birth of the spirit .....
so Jesus was around from day ONE of the first day of thinking of truth within; but he [it] did not publicised himself until later.....
because his name needed to be created first by those which had the characteristics of the Jesus spirit.

He [it] is the physical manifestation of the Son or Savior.

The implementation (teaching) of the true spirit mind = Savior!

Implemented Spirit = Savior
Savior = Jesus
Jesus = virgin Spirit
Spirit = internal = invisible = Jesus invisible within; it stays invisible until physical implementation through the spiritual instruction manifests.
(Result ..... Jesus; the Spirit becomes visible towards others!)

Rejecting your own spirit within = rejecting your true self!
Rejecting your spirit = rejecting truth!
Rejecting your spirit = rejecting the given name Jesus!
Rejecting your spirit = self rejection!

No one gets to the truth (father) except through your spirit!
No one gets to the truth (father) except through me!
Me = the spirit within ..... named Jesus the day the spirit was revealed towards others in physical form through actions & good works!


People can fight and argue religious organisation groups & there given names; but no one in his right mind can fight or argue logical words written or spoken which make logical spiritual comm & sense!

Those which still do are clearly the misfits & retards on earth!


Here are some recorded words confirming my conclusion ... which makes total logical sense to me personally.

Matthew said to him: "Lord, no one can find the truth except through you. Therefore teach us the truth."
The Savior said: "He Who Is is ineffable. No principle knew him, no authority, no subjection, nor any creature from the foundation of the world until now, except he alone, and anyone to whom he wants to make revelation through him (My Note: Spirit within) who is from First Light. From now on, I am the Great Savior. For he is immortal and eternal. Now he is eternal, having no birth; for everyone who has birth will perish. He is unbegotten, having no beginning; for everyone who has a beginning has an end. Since no one rules over him, he has no name; for whoever has a name is the creation of another."

(BG 84, 13-17 adds: He is unnameable. He has no human form; for whoever has human form is the creation of another).

Conclusion: the name Jesus was the creation of another! ... but the spirit was the origin until recognised!



"The Lord of the Universe is not called "Father", but "Forefather", the beginning of those that will appear, but he (the Lord) is the beginningless Forefather. Seeing himself within himself in a mirror, he appeared resembling himself, but his likeness appeared as Divine Self-Father , and <as> Confronter over the Confronted ones, First Existent Unbegotten Father. He is indeed of equal age <with> the Light that is before him, but he is not equal to him in power.

"And afterward was revealed a whole multitude of confronting, self-begotten ones, equal in age and power, being in glory (and) without number, whose race is called "The Generation over Whom There Is No Kingdom" from the one in whom you yourselves have appeared from these men. And that whole multitude over which there is no kingdom is called "Sons of Unbegotten Father, God, Savior, Son of God," whose likeness is with you. Now he is the unknowable, who is full of ever-imperishable glory and ineffable joy. They all are at rest in him, ever rejoicing in ineffable joy in his unchanging glory and measureless jubilation; this was never heard or known among all the aeons and their worlds until now."

Matthew said to him: "Lord, Savior, how was Man revealed?"
The perfect Savior said: "I want you to know that he who appeared before the universe in infinity, Self-grown, Self-constructed Father , being full of shining light and ineffable, in the beginning, when he decided to have his likeness become a great power, immediately the principle (or beginning) of that Light appeared as Immortal Androgynous Man, that through that Immortal Androgynous Man they might attain their salvation and awake from forgetfulness through the interpreter who was sent, who is with you until the end of the poverty of the robbers.

"And his consort is the Great Sophia, who from the first was destined in him for union by Self-begotten Father, from Immortal Man, who appeared as First and divinity and kingdom, for the Father, who is called "Man, Self-Father", revealed this. And he created a great aeon, whose name is "Ogdoad", for his own majesty.

"He was given great authority, and he ruled over the creation of poverty. He created gods and angels, <and> archangels, myriads without number for retinue, from that Light and the tri-male Spirit, which is that of Sophia, his consort. For from this, God originated divinity and kingdom. Therefore he was called "God of gods" and "King of kings".

"First Man has his unique mind, within, and thought - just as he is it (thought) - (and) considering, reflecting, rationality, power. All the attributes that exist are perfect and immortal. In respect to imperishableness, they are indeed equal. (But) in respect to power, they are different, like the difference between father and son <, and son> and thought, and the thought and the remainder. As I said earlier, among the things that were created, the monad is first.

"And after everything, all that was revealed appeared from his power. And from what was created, all that was fashioned appeared; from what was fashioned appeared what was formed; from what was formed, what was named. Thus came the difference among the unbegotten ones from beginning to end."

Then Bartholomew said to him: "How (is it that) <he> was designated in the Gospel "Man" and "Son of Man"? To which of them, then, is this Son related?"
The Holy One said to him: "I want you to know that First Man is called "Begetter, Self-perfected Mind" . He reflected with Great Sophia , his consort, and revealed his first-begotten, androgynous son. His male name is designated "First Begetter, Son of God" , his female name, "First Begettress Sophia, Mother of the Universe" . Some call her "Love" . Now First-begotten is called "Christ" . Since he has authority from his father, he created a multitude of angels without number for retinue from Spirit and Light."

His disciples said to him: "Lord, reveal to us about the one called "Man", that we also may know his glory exactly."
The perfect Savior said: "Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear. First Begetter Father is called "Adam, Eye of Light," because he came from shining Light, and his holy angels, who are ineffable (and) shadowless, ever rejoice with joy in their reflecting, which they received from their Father. The whole Kingdom of Son of Man, who is called "Son of God," is full of ineffable and shadowless joy, and unchanging jubilation, (they) rejoicing over his imperishable glory, which has never been heard until now, nor has it been revealed in the aeons that came afterward, and their worlds. I came from Self-begotten and First Infinite Light, that I might reveal everything to you."
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/sjc.html


Also this makes logical sense in a spiritual way of understanding!!

Seth is the representation of the first spiritual being within.....

8 But we maintain that the essential Logos is God in God, who is also said to be " in the bosom of the Father," continuous, undivided, one God.

Human beings can be divided into three types depending on which of the three natures is dominant within them. According to the Valentinians, that is why Adam and Eve are described as having had three children who they named Cain, Abel and Seth. They are the prototypes of carnal (choic), animate (psychic) and spiritual (pneumatic) human beings respectively. (Ireneus Against Heresies 1;7:5, Excerpts of Theodotus 54:1).
http://www.gnosis.org/library/valentinus/Psychology_Salvation.htm

The Second Treatise of the Great Seth
Now these things I have presented to you - I am Jesus Christ, the Son of Man, who is exalted above the heavens - O perfect and incorruptible ones, because of the incorruptible and perfect mystery and the ineffable one. But they think that we decreed them before the foundation of the world, in order that, when we emerge from the places of the world, we may present there the symbols of incorruption from the spiritual union unto knowledge. You do not know it, because the fleshly cloud overshadows you. (My Note: You are not guided by the Spirit; but by the flesh only!!) But I alone am the friend of Sophia (My Note: Wisdom) . I have been in the bosom of the father from the beginning, in the place of the sons of the truth, and the Greatness. Rest then with me, my fellow spirits and my brothers, forever.
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/2seth.html

My Personal notes:
Woe, Woe, Woe Perfect Again!.... To many times to just be coincidental.
Are my actions connected, related or synchronized with Symbolic number meanings?
My Posting No. 5770 = 19 & a 70 what does it say Symbolically?
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu19.php

Properties of the number 19

Symbolism
This number is in relation with the Son of God, according to Abellio.

According to R. Allendy, "it is the unit being established in the universe, 10, between the multiplied parts and by an act of reciprocal solidarity, 9. Thus is constituted and appeared the cosmic individuality, 1 + 9 = 10 = 1".

Represent "the number of the star which illuminates the intelligence, invigorates the innocents or the pure hearts, illustrated by children playing in the garden of the humanity, when the peace is made between the empires", according to Charrot.

Symbolize the harmony, the knowledge acquired by the sun and which goes of par with the moon, according to Creusot.

In Japan, 19 is a sign carrying misfortune because it is said JUKU, which means also "sorrows repeated".
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu19.php

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Properties of the number 70

Symbolism
Number corresponding to the totality of an evolution, an evolutionary cycle being completely completed, according to Saint Augustin.

Number representing the universality according to the Bible.

The corresponding Hebraic letter is hain, which corresponded to the sixteenth mystery of the Tarot: the house-God, symbol of fall, collapse, catastrophe - there is agreement with the idea of termination of cycle, according to R. Allendy.
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu70.php